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HONOLULU STAR-BULLETIN, TUESDAY, OCT. S, 1012.
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is 58 years old and has help
ed thousands back to health.
It tones rebuilds nourishes
For Bale by Benson. Smith & Co
Ltd., Chamber Drug Co., Ltd., Hllo
Drug Co. and at all wholesale liquor
Geary Street, above Union Square
European i?lan $1.50 a day up
American Plan $3.00 a day up
TTew rteel aid brick structure.
Every comfort and convenience.
A high class hMel at very moderate
rates. In, the center of theatre and
retail district. On car lines trans
ferrin? to all parts of city. Electric"
omnibus met ts ' all trains and
Etctmers. Hotel Stewart recognized
as Hawaiian kland Headquarters.
Cable Address Tr wets" ABC code.
JiL Love. Honolulu representative.
;:: FRAiiGisco ,7K2"rt
':rced Concrtti Btrildlng. 225 Room. 21 Irtf
: i c&'Jna houses withla I block. Rates f 1. tt.66
I i.Cdfmiv, F.LAA.W.Tiupla.PtoB,4Man
WAIMEA, KAUAI :
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V . on Kauai .
Tourist Tftde 8UciUd
' . GOOD MEALS
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COMFORTABLE - REFINED
... Corner Wilder and Punahou "
Phone 3427 :
Hftnrl "Jules Plnchou. Manager
Has prepared for the tour
ist business by the addition
of two more; bungalows
beautifully furnished. They
are .now ready for occu
Emma, Above Vineyard
Spend Sunday at
$2 round trip. $1 eac for
meals, including chicken dinner.
Train at 8:36 a. m.
ME FOR A SWIM AT THE
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Says the Wise Bather
Largest Pacific Souvenir!
Store in the World
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S0R1E IMPORTANT TESTIMONY GIVEN AT FISHER
HEARING B Y IVERS ON LABOR AND IMMIGRATION
Tells of Brewer & Co.'s Plantation Contracts with the Small
Growers Denies Stories of Immigrants Turned Out of
Territorial Station Because Wouldn't Go to Certain Plantations
On th lat riav of the Fihr har.
ing, Mr. Richard Ivers made one of
lh mnt intrctina statement of th
entire investigation. He was recalled
to the stand to answer some ques-
lions m id csnc-yrewiny comratia
that Brewer & Co.'s plantations have
negotiated with the small Growers,
and also with regard to labor immi-
Secretary Fisher: Mr. Ivers, I
want to ask you a few questions that
have been overlooked before, partial-
I -j Hi? uith rnvird tr tliiti motf.r that
Mr. Thurston has now 'explained all
to that contract with the plantation,
I havp hepn fnlri that von are nno nt
the men on the Islands who has made !
a most careful study of the actual fi .mill with depreciation,
nancial study of the terms upon I l-'isner: At any rate,
which contracts could be made with' ,vers: Wc". in tnat connection I
the homesteaders. Have you any in would cnarSe as mucn as usual. Or
formation on that subject? (dinanly speaking, everything on the
Ivers: .There was a complaint Plantation has to be renewed inside
made that the price paid for cane by of twenty years-I think possibly sev
the plantations was altogether inad- enteen years might be fair; but a
equate. Mr. Robertson and myself 6roat may thin68 on tne Plantation
talked the situation over the aave to be renewed a number of
plantations represented by Brewer &
rVimnnnv In Hiln uirp hnvintr mnrp
cane than any others. As a result
of that conversation, I went up in!
that district and snent a month in
the fields and Investigated very fully., mM would cost
We -decided on a uniform, contract, . her: I suppose you figure main
which has since gone into effect, on.-t6nance and repairs?
the expiration of tne old contracts I lvers: Well, in that connection 1
That is, the contract was known as nsure what we actually spend on
C six per cent basis, the planter raia- maintenance. Any expense for better
ing cane on his own land, we pay for meDts are nt figured -in this account
the cane when it is delivered along at a'1-
Kido the flume six per cent on the Fsher: Will you send the stenogra
price of sugar in New York. If it Pher a memorandum of the figures
were 4 cents, or $4.80 a ton in New J ish to get them correctly. 1 would
York wo would pay 6 per cent, pro- llke to get the basis of your profit
vided the cane was of such quality t0 tne mlll 11 ou nave no objection,
that It only required eight tons of it Th. San Carlos Contract
to make a ton of sugar. ; The cane Ivers: No objection at all. There
raised upon lands owned by the ,s one further feature. It is contend
plantation paid $4.50 or $4.40, if the l...tnat the San Carlos Milling Com
nrlro rf snifar wnrn H Rrt (Mr Ivors pany is far more favorable with their
then described the terms in detail.)
Fisher: Well now this general
form and term of contract you think,
in vnn la n fa r rmitr9rt tn hfh nar.
Ucs? j $38.40 here, a difference of $1.60.
Ivers: Yes, I do. I think it is' Fisher: $1.60 better than here; la
very fata to both parties. ; Dor conditions are more favorable.
Fisher: Could you state what gcn-,T?at brin8 me t the quesUon of im
eral return it ought, under general migration here. You are bringing in
conditions, to yield to a plantation? , a good marry .Filipinos now ?
Ivers: To the mill or to the plant
er or both? '
Fisher: , Well, It might be both, if
you have, the time, showing on what
basis you arrived at that term. 1
would like to have it.
Flffurln Profits. V
J vers: Four plantations represent
ed by Brewer & Co. produced 4751
tons of cane from 6475 acres. Average i men who are induced to come here in certain cases they were more 1m
price per ton pt cane was $4.25 and tne fact that they are!not Bubject to migrants who wanted to go to certain
in this connection 1 will say that a
comparatively large .portion was rais- tbat would be accorded them if they
ed on plantation land. The average came from a foreign country,
per acre received by the. planter was Well Examined.
142. , The average yield per acre was j Ivers: Well, -Mr. Secretary, these
45 tons. Now I assinned that a third people are examined over there before
of the area was plant cane, and two- their departure by the Federal people
thirds rattoons. I assumed that pro- In the Philippines the most rigid ex
vided the planter had his own money amination is made.
and did not have advances from the I Fisher: Is that done under fhePhll
plantation, it would cost him $126.50 ippine government?
to raise plant cane from the time he' Ivers: It is done at the request of
put the seed in the ground until the the planters and with the cooperation
time he harvested the cane, including of the Philippine government, but at
all charges, per acre. I assumed the expense of the planters,
that for rattoons it cost him. $98. J Fisher: In other words, if there is
Therefore the average cost would be any justification for the complaint,
two crops rattoons $98 and one that could be checked by. calling the
crop plant $126, the average would be attention of the Philippine government
$107.50. He received $107.50; he to it, and showing that their officials
probably made $190. Now I figured imposed at least the same restric
on that contract that with sugar at tions as the immigration officials
31-2 cents at New York the mill here,
would make $4.65 per ten and I will Ivers: Yes.
say now that . the advantage of this
contract is that when sugar is at a
high price, their profits increase;
with sugar at $3.75 the. mill would
make $6.74 a ton; with sugar at 4
cents the mill wouldtlnake $9.08; with
sugar at 4.25 cents, the mill would
make $11.42, with sugar at 4.50 cents
the mill would make $13.78 per ton;
with sugar at 4.7 Scents, the mill
would make $16.10 a ton; with sugar
at 5 cents, $18.45. On the same basis,
the planter, provided he received 45
tons per acre, with sugar at 3.50, he
would make $40.75 per acre per year.
He would receive $S1.50 gross for the
Fisher: In other words, on plant
crop and rattoon crop he would make
per year $40.75.
Ivers: Yes. If, in the event of all
of the advances being made by the
plantation, I figure he would have to
pay 10 dollars in interest for two
years, or $5 a year per acre. On 40
tons of sugar per acre at 3.50 I as
sume he would make a profit of $31.
25; 35 tons per acre yield, 1 assume
would make a profit of $21.75. -With
PiNHUtiT.Z'Hiih ISrrzftN. 2H"
Penhurst meets in front
and stays that way. It is
non-shrinkable, has the
strongest of buttonholes
and ample tie space.
25c, 2 tet 25c. CUett. Peabodjr & Co.. Makers
unrrar -j t i r-t-ntc nrnvirlr1 the vield
was 45 tons, he would make a profit,
nf t.'.l Wnrtv tnns vielri would I
make a profit of $43.2'; Zo tons would
make a profit of $
ai tenia, nc kuuiu umac j T . .
yield of 45 tons, $67.75; 40 tons, held that might be said to represent
would make a profit of $55.25; from I tpe. la.DOri"5 man; Don't you think
25 tons, he would make a profit of
1 didn't take it any higher
than that because 1 thought 4.50 cents
was high enough. In reference to the
I'ahala contract, with sugar at 4 cents
tliPV WDllM make H. ton.
Fisher: Now, in figuring what the
mill would make, do you credit the
mill with interest?
Ivers: I do not, but I credit the
times. However, 1 figure about 6 per
ceni. wouia oe a iair ruie oi ueprecia-
. i j . je j x
'sher: Six percent, on what?
Ive"s: Six per cent, on what a good
contract than any contract that has j
oeen onerea- nere. me san Carlos
Milling Company contract with sugar
H lour ceniS.Daya 1U as aeamSl ,
ivers. immigration nas notning to
do with Filipinos.
Fisher: Who brings in Filipinos?
, Ivers: The planters.
Fisher: I have been told that 'there
has been a great deal of abuse of
Ivers: In what way?
Fisher: Well, in the character of the '
the same restrictions or examination
Fisher: Now, there has also been
a good deal of complaint called to my
attention and some of it I may say
by men officially connected with the
plantation men in the actual and re
sponsible employ of the plantation,
who have itold me that they did not
like to come out openly who said
they thought there was a serious
abuse in the manner in which the im
migrants which have been brought
here from the mainland I mean from
ortside have been treated fipon and
shortly after their arrival. That is to
say, that these people have been turn
ed loose here in many instances,
where they have been left without
employment for a period of two, three
or more months, during which they
had little or nothing to depend upon
and were compelled to accept almost
any old thing. What do you know
Statement Called Untrue.
Ivers: I consider that not only
that statement not true, but that it is
n malicious statement. Under our law.
we can provide and take care of these
people for only a reasonable length of
time somtinies a man arrives there
?r.d is offered different places of em
ployment .and refuses to acept them
he merely wishes to remain there at
the expense of the Territory there
have been a few such cases, where
they have been forcibly removed from
the station those cases have been ex
Dr. Clark was appointed executive
officer of the Immigration Station. As
far as we knew, he was not interest
financially or in any other way. in the
dependent outsider. Sine he ass'.im- j
cd that office, he has had practically
a free hand he had not hcen restrict-1
iiui.uij ,anu naa ai'ruiui rij mi ii
c-d in any way.
Fisher: I have been told that he
ha? not been given a free hand that
whether by restraint or by Indirect re
straint he has not been in a position
to esrry out fully or freely the prop
ositions he wishes.
Ivers: He has been given practio
all a free hand. Of course, there
hae been at different times perhaps
a difference of opinion, but that has
always been on minor points, i nere
has never been any project oi my
considerable importance that he has
introduced that has been turned down.
Fisher: The Board usually has two
representatives of sugar interests
what would the other" ieopIe repre-
Ivers: One of them is a local at-
'J?. otner a bsiness man, en-
that the efficiency of a board of thaf
kind as a whole would be improvea V
there was somebody on thnt board
who represented the people?
Atkinson As Vox Pouli.
Ivers: I think Mr. Atkinson could
said to represent the people
fas been a member of the board since
its Inception since 1905.
Fisher: What is his employment?
Ivers: An attorney.
Fisher: How does he, an attorney,
come to be so regarded?
Ivers: Well, he has always been
closely identified with immigration
and is looked upon generally as be
ing a representative of the people,
- Fisher: And you think that there
is a feeling that Mr. Atkinson per
haps rightly or wrongly does under
stand and s)nnpathize with their point
Ivers I think so. Well, In that
regard I will say that I discussed it
with the Governor and I thought there
.should be an active head of thnt De
partment who would do practically all
of- the work and would be independ
ent. Fisher: That is the work of Mr.
Ivers: Yes that is the work of Dr.
Fisher: How soon is he likely to
return? Will he return through
Ivers: I think. he will probably re
turn through Washington. You can
have him return that way.
Fisher: Mr. AshfOrd, you want to
ask any question?
Ashford: Mr. Ivers, Isn't it a fact
that when parties come here, they
ar assigned to go to different plan-
tations and If they make any objec-
uon wey can go as mey are ai&iiu
or get out orthe station entirely-In
wmci nuiuo, wv.j
ed a fair opportunity to -make their
own . selection isn't that true? v
Facta of Distribution.
Ivers: No, that is not true. The
circumstances are these: Most of
these people arrive here-most of them
come here because they receive let
ters from friends and relatives who
were working at different' plantations
in the Islands., On the arrival of the
vessel here, a great many people
knew the names of-'the .plantations
where they wanted to go and they
exnressed a desire to go to those plan-
' tations, and afar as possible, they
were d'isnatched to those- plantations.
ni an tations than could be accommo
dated and they were finally persuad
ed to g(x to some other plantations.
Ashford: What was done?
Ivers: They were kept down there
there were only one or two who were
forced out of that station.
. Ashford: Why were they forced
out? , x
Ivers: Because they refused to ac
cept anything. Their attitude convinc
ed the secretary that they were mere
ly waiting for an opportunity to leave
for the "Coast
In regard to the Russians, Mr. At
kinson himself went over to Russia
and selected these people. When the
first shipments of Russians arriveu
here there was no trouble. But af
ter some of those people had been a
little while on the plantations, they
began drifting back to. Honolulu. A
number of these people ' were in Ho
nolulu when the first shipment of Mr.
Atkinson's arrived. There was some
trouble. The whole controversy seem
ed to be that they said they had been
promised $45 a month, whereas they
were promised 45 roubles a month.
'hat is all that Mr. Atkinson prom
ised them 45 roubles.
Ashford: Has it not been generally
understood that those people were
given to understand that the amount
of money that they were going to get
nere would be equal to $45 as dis
tinguished from roubles.
Ivers: I don't think so. In fact. 1
am convinced otherwise. Mr. Atkin
son was so much interested such a
strong advocate of the introduction of
Kussian people here that I think he
took particular pains to convince these
people, but as a matter of fact these
people were 'mostly mechanics and
there were no opportunities to find any
employment for them. I visited the
Iron Works and Mr.' Hedemann agreed J
to employ a number of them at the
Iron Works. At the same time we did !
secure employment for a number of
them throughout the town ?s mecnan- j
ics several to Mr. Craig. He alter-
wards came back and told us that ,
they were not mechanics. i
Ashford: They were introduced
I they had been recruited for plantation
Ashford: What was the general'
reason why they would not o out ;
and take agricultural work?
Ivers: They maintained that t hey J
had been promised $45 a month.
Ashford: I understand from other!
sources that an investigation was
made and the matter was adjusted
- Ivers: Well, no; finally fome of
them did finally go up to the planta-
tions, but others would not. As an
indication, there are about 2".u Rus
sians '"working on the plantation,
whereas there are a little over lurm
who have been brought here.
As to CcPartnership lan.
Fisher: Were you was Brewer
Company interested in the passage of
this law this partnership law?
Ivers: In no way,
There are three
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Ancrfert Remedv for Consfipi-
uon . sour aroraciUJiarnKa
Worms JComnlsions JevTnslr
nessaiulLoss of Sleep.
TicSirmTe Signaroti oT
fniaranteed under the Foodaf
Exact Copy of Wrapper,
of these companies that are connected
as subsidiaries to our plantation that
were formed prior to the Organic Act
One was engaged in the coffee busi
ness ; the coffee buisiness failed and
they gradually turned the land into
planting cane, I also wish to explain
that as to these land companies, that
were formed ; by Brewer & Company
in connection with Brewer &. Com
pany that ever since 1890 Brewer &
Co., as a good investment of their
own have bought lands throughout the
islands which the plantations . have
leased from them. Brewer & Co. nev
er bought these lands at the time with
the ideaof selling' them to the plan
tation. They bought, them simply as
a good investment These lands have
increased very materially in. value -we
paid small sums for a good many
of them; The directors decided that
whereas we have been, agents and are
acting in their interest, the land we
bought should really belong to those
Fisher: Your idea was to turn
them over at the actual i
Ivers: At the actual cost to us at
that time. None qf these plantations
own a. share of stock in Brewer & Co.
Jhe five companies formed by Brewer
& Co. representea nve pianiauons.
Fisher: Was the property divided
up and a part assigned to each one of
Ivers : The land had been bought
in the snhere of a certain plantation.
that it the land in the locality of
each plantation was assigned to it.
Fisher: What I mean is this: Did
you organize recently a pew corpora
tion to take over these particular
lands and only those lands, and an
other corporation to take over the
lands in another locality and only
those lands, or did you take all , pf
your surplus lands and divide it up
Sot 1,000 Acres In All.
Ivers: The whole land collectively
would not amount to 1,000 acres.
Fisher: So that the impression that
has been created that each of them
held i little below a thousand acres
Ivers: That is entirely incorrect.
Fisher: So that we know they did
not quite fall within the class of
those corporations that we spoke of?
Ivers: I will admit that they were
Fisher: You could so far as thi3
law is concerned, have formed one
Ivers: Brewer & Company is a cor
poration and it has held them all up
t- this time.
Thurston Gives -Kinney's Position.
Mr. Thuraton: There Is one point
I intended to speak' of or the state
ment made to me by .Mr. Kinney in
regard to obtaining evidence unlaw
fully. I was away at the time anl
when I returned I asked hitn and he
made a statement to me.
Fisher: I think it is fnir for you
to state what he told you.
Thurston: 1 want to state in the
l'.i st instance that I have known Mr.
Kinney ever since he was knee nigh
to the table there, and in. my opinion
there was no more public ipiritel o;
better man in this community whil'j
he has eccentricities and differences
from others I will always give him thf
benefit of the doubt. So much tor Mr.
Why Kinney Acted.
When I asked htm why he had done
this, which is on the face of it contrary
to law, he made thi- statement to me.
There was some years ago a prosecu
tion againU a man in this town for
violation of the laws, and the chi?f
evidence which was necessary to the
government consisted of some privato
papers. -The prosecution got .out a
statement and compelled him to got
these papers they were to be tued
ii the prosecution against him. Th-.
court ruled that those papers could
not be used against him ai- it would
be against the constitution to make a
man testify against himseif. In "on
stntience, the porsecution failed. Now
Mr. Kinney simply referred to this as
being a fact facing him in his search-
Fot Infanta and Children.
The Kind You Have
. TMC INTAUM CWNIf, MCW TOU CITT.
inp for evidence against the "defend
ants. Nqw, he said, "I had the opin
Icn was'absolutely conclusive 1 had
the decision of t the v Supreme Curt
that if I got "out-a warrant, that those
papers could not be used I also had
a decision of the Supreme Qourt that
It some : evidence could be produced
In ' the court, whether obtained law
fully of not, eo long as It was not ob
tained through the process of; the
court. Is . could be used against ,the
defendant. Therefore I was faced with
this' alternative." If I -proceeded In n
lawful manner,' I could not make uif.
of the evidence, and the prosecution
would fail.- The case was such an
important one. There was being run
a government within a government.
Ife was faced with the alternative of
getting that evidence by this unlawful
means and, convlcjting. these men and
banging them.; to Justice,; or ty pro
ceeding by lawful v means and falling
A nd : in his dilemma,; he took : the
course he did. j .
MALE AND FEMALE OYSTERS.
A French naturalist who. It is re
ported, has long beep engaged In an
Investigation' to determine sex In
oysters, proclaims that he has at last
succeeded in the desired differentia
tion and has discoVered that the fe
male oyster in size and flavor Is de
cidedly superior to the male.
120 LOTS 40 by 80 feet for
sate at Kalihi, right on King
Street, near the Kalihi bridge.
Prices range from $350 to $500
Liberal discounts will be al
lowed for cash.
Terms are very easy.
Land Co., Ltd.
. ft -:
ft J(A In
VJ For Over
House on Fernandes Street,
Kali hi, two bedrooms....
$30 per month
House on (Jreen Street, two
bedrooms...... $4 5 par month
House on Kewalo Street.
three bedrooms .........
....$75 per month
House on Beretanla Street,
Tregloan Place, two bed
rooms ....$18 par month
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Your attention is called to the fact
that we have jus: received, by last
boat from the Coast, a large shipment
of the best PORTO RICO HATS. Reg
alar price, $5; reduced to $2.50.
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