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HONOLULU STAR-BULLETIN, TUESDAY, OCT. 8. 1912.
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TRY THE BITTERS
-lion weak bowels
TRY THE BITTERS
; you malaria, or fever
ft i ague?
TRY THE BITTERS
tomach Bitters .
years old and has help
thousands back to health,
nil rebuilds nourishes
rale bf Benson. Smith & Co,
Chamber Drug Co Ltd., Ililo
Co. and at all wholesale .liquor
ZtretU above Union Square
; pc&n ".?lan $1.50 a day up '.
ricaa Plan $3.00 a day up
fteel aad brick structure.
comfort and convenience.
class hotel at very moderate
. In the center of theatre and
district. On car lines trans
: to all purts of city. Electric
.us meets all trains-and
: n. Hotel Stewart recognized
vailan Island Headquarters.
ve, Honolulu representative.
17 Pcie!I Street
. at Market,
. -.'crets Eulltflno. 225 Boons. 21 toll
' Renovated East Hotel
Tourist Trade Solicited :
Rates Reasonable -
.'. SPITZ Proprietor
f05table - refined
moderate prices ;
Corner Wilder and Punahon
Phone 3427 -
:nrl Jules Plnchou, Manager
Has prepared for the tour
ist business by the addition
of two more bungalows
beautifully furnished. They
are now ready for occupancy.'-.-'
Emma, Above Vineyard
Spend Sunday at
t2 round trip, $1 each for
. uls. Including chicken dinner,
i at 8:36 a. m.
E FOR A SWIM AT THE
Says the Wise Bather
Store in the World
HAWAII & SOUTH
SEAS CURIO CO.
fo-rngTaTin?; of hltftest prade
' retired from the Star-Balletln
' r jrailnj riant.
HEARING B Y IVERS ON LABOR MlMMIGRATION
Tells of Brewer & Co.'s Plantation Contracts with the Small
Growers Denies Stories of Immigrants Turned Out of
Territorial Stat'on Because Wouldn't Go to Certain Plantations
(On the last day of the Fisher hear-
ing, Mr. Richard Ivers made o
the most interesting statements of the of $."4.2.i. Forty tons yield would
entire investigation. He was recalled make a profit of $43.2."; 3" tons would
to the stand to answer some ques- make a profit of 132.25. With sugar
tions as to care-growing contracts at 4.50 cents, he would make from a
that Brewer & Co.'s plantations have yield of 45 tons, $67.75; 40 tons, he
negotiated with the small growers, would make a profit of $55.25; from
and also with regard to labor immi- 35 tons, he would make a profit of
gration matters.) $42.75. 1 didn't take it any higher
Secretary Fisher: Mr. Ivers, I than that because" I thought 4.50 cents
want to ask you a few questions that was high enough. In reference to the
have been overlooked before, partlcu- Pahala contract, with sugar at 4 cents
larly with regard to this matter that jthey would make $9.63 a ton. .
Mr. Thurston has now explained ai I Fisher: Now, in figuring what the
to that contract with the plantation. ;mlll would make, do you credit the
1 have been told that you are one of mill with interest?,
the men on the Islands who has made j Ivers: I do not, but I credit the
a most careful study of the actual fi ;mill with depreciation,
nancial study of the terms upon Fisher: At any rate,
which contracts could be made withj Ivers: Well, in that connection I
the homesteaders. Have you any in- would charge as much as usual Or
formation on that subject? dlnarily speaking, everything on the
Ivers: There was a complaint puuon. "as i oe renewea lnsiue
made that the price paid for cane by , of twenty years I think possibly sev
the plantations was altogether inad- -enteen years might be fair; but a
equate. Mr. Robertson and myself sreat many things on the plantation
talked the situation over as the wil1 nave to De renewed a number or
plantations represented by Brewer & times- However, I figure about 6 per
Company in Hilo were buying more cent- would be a fair rate of deprecia
cane than any others. As a result tion-
of that conversation, I went up in Fisher: Six per cent, on what?
that district and spent a month in J Ivers: Six per cent on what a good
the fields and investigated very fully. mU1 wou,d cost
We decided on a uniform r contract,' Fisher: I suppose you figure main
whlch has since gone into effect, ontenance and repairs?
the expiration of tne old contracts Ivers: Well, in that connection 1
That is, the contract was known as figure what we actually spend on
& six ier cent basis, the planter rais- maintenance- Any expense for better
ing cane on his own land, we pay for ments are not figured in this account
the cane when it is delivered alone at
side the flume six per cent on the Fisher: Will you send the stenogja
price of sugar in New. York. If It Pner a memorandum of the figures--
wr 4 MntH. nr S4 80 a tnn In Nw
York we would pay 6 per cent,
vided the cane was of such quality. lo ine mui 11 jvpjrnave n0 objection,
that it only required eight tons of itTne San Caj4r Contract
to make a ton of sugar. The cane I vers:. No objection at all. There
raised upon lands owned by the Is 9ne further feature. It is contend
nlantatlon nald $4.50 or $4.40. if the etf'that the San Carlos Milling Corn-
price of ugar were $4.80. (Mr. Ive,rg'
fhan H Aesrt hnrf iYta farina in Wai
Fichr. wn nnr
form and term of contract ou think;
do you, is a fair contract both par-
, lX I think it i3!
vara totr tn WKriwUn
Fisher: Cou'ld you state what gen-lTnat DrinS8 me to the question of im
eral returnit ought, , under general mIsration here. You are bringing in
u(.r . ..uu i i a good manv Filininna nnw? -
i.uuuiiiu.. lu viciu ui u u i an La uuu. i
Ivors: To the mill or to the plant-
Fisher: Well, it might be both, if
you have the time, showing on r'what
basis you arrived at t that term. 1
would like to, have it.
, Ivers:; Four plantations represent
ed by Brewer & Co. produced 4751
tons of cane from 6475 acres. Average
price per ton of cane was $4.25 and
in this connection I will say that" a same restrictions or examination
comparatively large portion was rais- thaj would be accorded them If they
ed on plantation land. The, average ' came from a foreign country,
per acre received by the planter was. Well Examined.
1J2. The average yield per acre was) Ivers: Well, Mr. Secretary, these
45 tons. Now 1 assumed ,that a third people are examined over there before
of the area was plant cane and two- their departure-by the Federal people
thirds rattoons. I assumed that pro-' in the Philippines the most rigid ex
vided the planter had his own money animation is made.
and did not have advances from the) Fisher: Is that done under the Phil
plantation, .it would cost him $126.50 Ippine government?
to raise plant 'cane from the time he Ivers: It is done at the request of
put the seed in the ground until the . the planters and with the cooperation
time he harvested the cane, including of the Philippine government, but at
all charges, per acre. I assumed the expense of the planters,
that' for rattoons it cost him $98. J Fisher: In other words, if there is
Therefore the average cost would be any justification for the complaint,
two crops rattoons $98 and ' one that could be checked by calling the
crop plant $126. the average would be attention of the Philippine government
$107.50. He received $107.50; he to It, and showing that their officials
probably made $190. Now I figured imposed at least the same restric
on that contract that with sugar at tions as the immigration officials
31-2 cents at New York the mill here,
would make $4.65 per ton and I will ( Ivers: Yes.
say now that the advantage or this.
contract Is that when v sugar is at a
high price, their profits increase;
with sugar" at $3.75 the mill would
make $6.74 a ton; with sugar at 4
cents the mill would make $9.08; with
sugar at 4.25 cents, the mill would
make $11.42, with sugar at 4.50 cents
the mill would make $13.78 per ton;
with sugar at 4.7 ocents, the mill
would make $16.10 a ton; with sugar
fit 5 cents, $18.45. On the same basis,
the planter, provided he received 45
tons per acre, with sugar at 3.50, he
would make $40.75 per acre per year.
He would receive $81.50 gross for the
Fisher: In other words, on plant
crop and rattoon crop he would make
per year $40.75.
Ivers: Yes. If, in the event of all
of the advances being made by the
plantation, I figure he would have to
pay 10 dollars in Interest for two
years, or $5 a year per acre. On 40
tons of sugar per acre at 3.50 I as
sume he would make a profit of $31.
23; 35 tons per acre yield, I assume
would make a profit of $21.75. With
rcNOTftlT.2"hich ISXTXKN, 2Ji" high
Penhurst meets in front
and stays that way. It is
non-shrinkable, has the
strongest of buttonholes
and ample tie space.
15c, 2 Kf 25c. CUett, Peabodr & C.. Maker
sugar at 4 cents provided the yield
was 45 tons, he would make a profiti
" get mem correccry. i would
pro-'llke t0 get the basis tof your profitj
Pany Is tor more favorable with their
contract than anv rnntrart that has
been ofTered hpr. Th San rnHna
' Milling Company contract with sugar
four cents, pays $40 as against1
itwin k j..
Fisher: $1.60 better than here; la-j
Dor condltiona am mnrn favnrahlo
Ivers: Immigration has nothing to
do with Filipinos.
Fisher: Who brings in Filipinos.?
Ivers: The planters. .
; Fisher: I have been-told that there
has been a great deal of abuse of
Ivers: In, what way?
Fisher: Well, in the character of the
men who are induced to come here
tn fact that they are not subject to'
Fisher: Now. there, has also been
a good deal of complaint called to my
attention and some of it I may say
by men Officially connected with the
plantation men in the actual and re
sponsible employ of the plantation,
who have told me that they did not
like to come out openly who said
they thought there was a serious
abuse in the manner in which the im
migrants which have been brought
here from the mainland I mean from
outside have been treated Upon and
shortly after their arrival. That Is to
say, that these people have been turn
ed loose here in many instances,
where they have been left without
employment for a period of twb, three
or more months, during which they
had little or nothing to depend upon
and were compelled to accept almost
any old thing. What do you know
Statement Called Untrue.
Ivers: I consider that not only
that statement not true, but that it is
a malicious statement. Under our law,
we can provide and take care of these
people for only a reasonable length of
time somtimes a man arrives there
PEd is offered different places of em
ployment .and refuses to accept them
he merely wishes to remain there at
the expense of the Territory there
have been a few such cases, where
they have been forcibly removed from
the station those cases have been ex
Dr. Clark was appointed executive
officer of the Immigration Station. As
far as we knew, he was not interested
financially or in any other way. in the
Territory ,and was absolutely an in
dependent outsider. Since he assum
ed that office, he has had practically
a free hand he had not been restrict
ed in any way.
Fisher: I have been told that he
has not been given a free hand that
whether by restraint or by Indirect re
straint he has not been in a position
to carry out fully or freely the prop
ositions he w-ishes.
Ivers: He has been given practic
ally a free hand. Of course, there
have been at different times perhaps
a difference of opinion, but that has
always been on minor ioints. mere
has never been any project ot my
considerable importance that he has
introduced that has been turned down.
Fisher: The Board usually has two
representatives of sugar interests
I & am.a -i
wn" wou,u lDe olDer lve
Ivers: One of them is a loral at
torney, the other a business man. en
gaged in the newspaper business here.
Fisher: Is there anybody on the
Board that might be said to represent
the laboring man? Don't you think
that the efficiency of a board of that
kind as a whole would be improved lf
there was somebody on that board
who represented the people?
Atkinson As Vox Pouli.
Ivers: I think Mr. Atkinson could
be said to represent the people. He
has been a member of .the board since
its inception since 1905.
Fisher: What is his employment?
Ivers: An attorney.
Fisher: How does he, an attorney,
come to be so regarded?
Ivers: Well, he has always been
closely identified with immigration
and is looked upon generally as be
ing a representative of the people.
Fisher: And you think that there
is a feeling that Mr. Atkinson per
haps rightly or wrongly does under
stand and sympathize with their point
Ivers: I think so. Well, in that
regard I will say that I discussed it
with the Governor and I thought there
should be an active head of ttfnt De
partment who would do practically all
of the work and would be inde"-
Fisher: That is the workf of Mr.
Ivers: Yes tJjaMJTfiie work of Dr.
'Flsher: How soon is he likely to
return? Will he return through
Ivers: I think he will probably re
turn through Washington. You can
have him return that way.
Fisher: Mr. Ashford, you want to
ask any question?
Ashford: Mr. Ivers, isn't it a fact
that when parties come here, they
are assigned to go to different plan
tations and if they make any objec-
tion they can go as they are assignea
or get out of Uie station entirely in
other words, that they areBot o. low-
ad 9 fair onnortunltv to make the. r
own , lecUoh-is true?-
Fart of Distribution.
Ivers: No, that is not true The
circumstances are these: Most of
these people arrive here-most of them
come here because they receive let
ters from friends and relatives who
were working at different plantations
in the Islands. On the arrival Of the
vessel here, a great many people
knew the names of the plantations
where they wanted to go and they
expressed a desire to go to those plan
tations, and -as far as possible, they
were dispatched to those plantations.
In certain cases they were more iui
migrants who wanted to go to certain
than could be accommo
dated and they were finally persuad
ed to go to some other plantations.
Ashford: What was done? r
Ivers: They were kept down there
there were only one or two who were
forced out of that station.
Ashford: Why were they forced
Ivers: Because they refused to ac
cept anything. Their attitude convinc
ed the secretary that they were mere
ly waiting for an opportunity to leave
for the Coast.
In regard to the Russians, Mr. At
kinson himself went over to Russia
and selected these people. When the
first shipments of Russians arrived
here there was no trouble. But af
ter some of those people had been a
little while on the plantations, they
began drifting back to Honolulu. A
number of these people were in Ho
nolulu when the first shipment of Mr.
Atkinson's arrived. There was some
trouble. The whole controversy seem
ed to be that they said they had been
promised $45 a month, whereas they
were promised 45 roubles a month.
That is all that Mr. Atkinson prom
ised them 45 roubles.
Ashford: Has it not been generally
understood that those people were
given to understand that the amount
of money that they were going to get
here would be equal to $45 as dis
tinguished from roubles.
Ivers: I don't think so. In fact, I
am convinced otherwise. Mr. Atkin
son was so much interested such a
strong advocate of the introduction of
Russian people here that I think he
took particular pains to convince these
people, but as a matter of fact these
people were mostly mechanics and
there were no opportunities to find any
employment for them. I visited the
Iron Works and Mr. Hedemann agreed
to employ a number of them at the
Iron Works. At the same time we did
secure employment for a number of
them throughout the town ps'mechan
ics several to Mr. Craig. He after
wards came back and told us that
they were not mechanics.
Ashford: They were introduced
they had been recruited for plantation
Ashford: What was the generai
reason why they would not go out
and take agricultural work?
Ivers: They maintained that they
had been promised $45 a month.
Ashford: I understand from other
sources that an investigation was
made and the matter was adjusted
Ivers: Well, no; finally some of
them did finally go up to the planta
tions, but others would not. As an
indication, there are about 2."o Rus
sians working on the plantation,
whereas there are a little ovor H'o
who have been brought here.
As to Co-Partnership Plan.
Fisher: Were you was Hrrwrr
Company interested in the passage of
this law this partnership law?
Ivers: In no way. There are three
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of these companies that are connected
as subsidiaries to our plantation that
were formed prior to the Organic Act.
One was engaged in the coffee busi
ness; the coffee buisiness failed and
they gradually turned the land Into
planting cane. I also wish to explain
that as to these land companies, that
were formed by Brewer & Company
in connection with i Brewer & Com
pany that ever since 1890 Brewer &
Co., as a good investment of their
own have bought lands throughout the
islands which the plantations have
leased from them. Brewer & Co. nev
er bought these lands at the time with
the idea of selling them to the plan
tation. They bought them simply as
a good investment. These lands have
increased very materially, in value:
we paid small sums for a good many
of them. The directors decided that
whereas we have been agents and are
acting in their interest, 'the land we
bought should really belong to those
Fisher: Your idea was to turn
them over at the actual-
Ivers: At the actual cost to us at
that time. None of these plantations
own a share of stock in Brewer & Co.
The five companies formed by Brewer
& Co. represented five plantations.
Fisher: Was the property divided
up and a. part assigned to each one of
Ivers: The land had been bought
in the sphere of a certain plantation,
that it the land in the locality of
each plantation "was assigned to it.
Fisher: What I mean is this: Did
you organize recently a new corpora
tion to take over these particular
lands and only those lands, and an
other corporation to take over the
lands in another locality and only
those lands, or did you take all of
your surplus lands and divide it up
ot 1,000 Acres iu All.
Ivers: The whole land collectively
would not amount to 1,000 acres.
Fisher: So that the impression that
has been created that each of them
held a little below a thousand acres
Ivers: That is entirely incorrect.
Fisher: So that we know they did
not quite fall within the class of
those corporations that we spoke of?
Ivers: I will admit that they were
Fisher: You could so far as this
law is concerned, have formed one
Ivers: Brewer & Company is a cor
poration and it has held them ail up
t. this time.
TKurston Gives Kinney's Position.
Mr. Thurston: There is one point
I intended to speak of of the state
ment made to me by Mr. Kinney in
rcsard to obtaining evidence unlaw
fully. I was away at the time and
when I returned I asked him and he
made a statement to me.
Fisher: I think it is fair for you
to state what he told you.
Thurston: I want to state in the
first instance that I have known Mr.
Kinney ever since he was knee nigh
to the table there, and in my opinion'
there was no more public ipirited or
better man in this community while
he has eccentricities and differences
from others I will always give him the
benefit of the doubt. So much for Mr.
Why Kinney Acted.
When I asked him why he had done
this, which is on the face of it contrary
to law, he made thi" statement to me.
There was some years ago a prosecu
tion agaimt i man in this town for
violation of the laws, and the chief
evidence which was necessary to th
government consisted of some private
papers. The prosecution got out a
statement and compelled him ro get
those papers they were to be us ed
ii the prosecution against him. Th.
(.i:rt ruled that those papers could
rot be used against him as it would
In- against the constitution to make a
man testify against himseif. In con
st cuience, the porsecution failed. Now
Mr. Kinney simply referred to this as
being a fact facing him in his search
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ing for evidence against the defend
ants. Now, he said, "I had the opin
ion was absolutely concluBlve-7-I had
the decision of the Supreme Curt
that if I got out a warrant, that those
papers could not be used I also had
a decision of the Supreme Court that
If some evidence could be produced'
in the court, whether; obtained law
fully of not, so long as It was not ob
tained through the process of . the
court, Is could be used against the
defendant. Therefore I was faced with
this alternative. If I proceeded In a
lawful manner, I could not make uf.
of the evidence, and the prosecution
would fail.' The case was such an
important one. There was being run
a : government within a government.'
lie was faced with the alternative of
gc-tting that evidence -bjt this-unlawf ul
means and. convicting these men and
bringing them to Justice,- or ty pro
ceeding by lawful mems and failing
And , in his dilemma, he took the
course he did. v;'-v' ,:" :-.
MALE AND FEMALE OYSTERS.
A French naturalist whoi it is re
ported, has long been engaged in an
investigation to determine sex in
oysters, proclaims that he has at last
succeeded in the desired differentia
tion and has discovered that the fe
male oyster in size and flavor is de
cidedly superior,, to the male.
120 LOTS 40 by 80 feet for
sale at Kalihi, right on King
Street, near the Kalihi bridge.
Prices range from $350 to $500
Liberal discounts will be al
lowed for cash.
Terms are very easy.
Land Co., Ltd.
! Thirty Years
House on Fernandez Street.
Kalihi, two bedrooms....
$30 per month
House on O.reen Street, two
bedrooms $45 per month
House on Kewalo Street,
$75 per month
House on Reretanla Street,
Tregloan Place, two bed
rooms $13 per month
124 BETHEL STREET
W. C. ACHI,
ATTORNEY AT LAW
vapiolanl Buildlni HeneUittf, f H
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E. G. Duisenberg
IS U RANGE
76 KinWli Fl;:;s JMJ
uumatea Furnished" on Bnlldlnn
r'-'- Rates Reasonable.';'
ISO Hotel 8L, Oregon. BM. Tel. SSII
; drink .-
May's Old Kona Coffee
BEST IN THE MARKET
Phone 1271 r
. Successor to h !'
Brown ALyon Co Lti. '
ALEXANDER YOUNO DUILDINQ
Everything )n Cocke"
ORANGE DLOSSOM CANCIZJ
The. Host. Popular Candies Uade
on the Coast
HONOLULU DRUG CO LT&.
1024 Fort St Telephone KZ
Till , -.
Chos He Prazior
Pione 1371 112 Eat CI
the .. .
B. f. Dillingham Co.
General Agent for Hawaii: ;
Atlas Assurance Company, of
Londoh, New York Under
writers' Agency; Providence
Washington Insurance Co.
4th Floor, Stangenwald Bldg.
1000 FEET -INCH
Extra Good Value 25 Ft $3.73
JAMES GUILD COMPANY
EVERYTHING in FURNITURE
Wire Bed Co.,
Corner Alakea and King Sts.
Your attention la called to the fact
that we have just received, by last
boat from the Coast, a large shipment
of the best PORTO RICO HATS. Reg
alar price, $5; reduced to $2.50.
THE LEADING HAT CLEANER3
No. 20 Beretanla St, nr. Nuuanu Ave,
FELIX TURRO, Specialist
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