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THE GARDEN ISLAND TUESDAY, OCT. 9. 1917 4 i 1 Announcement I am appointed as General Agent for The Home Insurance Co. of Hawaii, Limited and Western States Life Insurance Company. And am now in position to id Hiie policies for tlie fcjllowing: Fire, Life, Health, Accident, Marine, Surity. and N Fidelity Bonds Workmen's Compensation Registered Mail- Insurance L. B. Boreiko Ueneral Agent for tlm Inland of Kanai Main office at Liliue Branch ofltee at Kilauea, Kauai. Telephone 57 "CADO" DATER Self-inking, all metal, solidly built dating machine. Will work smoothly and without friction or trouble for years. Every paper should bear a date. A CADO on a clerk's desk will save you hours now wasted, Price, $1.25 Hawaiian News Co., Ltd. Young Hotel B!d. Bishop street. Honolulu OVEN Glass Dishes for Baking. The Newest Method Bread pans Pie plates Custard Cups Casseroles Shirred ejjK pans Au G rutin 1.25 ea 1.00 -a .25 ea 1.75 en .05 ea : l.OOTea W. W. Dimosd & Co. Ltd, HONOLULU HAWAII Co. Ltd. Stocks, Bonds, Real Estate and Insurance NO. 125 131 MERCHANT ST P. O.Box No 594 Honolulu CALIFORNIA FEED CO I LIMITKD. Dealers in Hav, Grain and Chicken' Supplies. Sole Agents for International Stork. Poultry Fond , and other RK'eialtiew. Arabic for eoolintr Iron Roofs. Petaluma In cubators and Brooders King's Special Chick Food P. O. Box 452, Honolulu - KauaP Steam Laundry First-class Washing and Ironing hats' cleaned Kapaa : : P. 0. Kealia jus. f. in hamber of Commerce (Continued from page 1.) master key of the situation, to wit ie water, to private parties and thus give them the whip hand over the industries and well-being of the ntizens of this inland for generations o come. This is for the reason, ostensibly, that only private parties can develop and administer these water-rights. But why on earth can't an honest and efficient gov ernment develop and administer these rights just as successfully, as private individuals? The Federal government is conducting such en- rpnses on the mainland ; enter prises that dwarf our little prob lems out of sight. The water is the vital element in the whole problem of life and iudus- ry here, if we surrender the water e lose the game. So. we must hang on to the water. The Question In Hand And this brings us to the question m hand, lou have seen m the Garden Island tho notice of sale of right of way across a portion of the Government land of Hannpepe whicli it is proposed to sell for an upset price of 825 a year. The situ ation is, we are told, that Gay and Robinson own the Hanapcpe water by virtue of owning the land of Ko la on which the water takes its rise, and that they want to conduct it across onto their fee simple lands of Makaweli. But we understand that there is some question as to whether they own this water in any such exclusive sense that they can entirely alienate it from the lands adjacent to it, and transfer it away from them. Why to Much Hurry? There are very competent legal authorities that deny their monopo listie ownership of this water. Any way there is a debatable question , and until that matter is investigat ea ana tne question settled there should be no hurried railroading through of some concession which will sin render for all time the possi ble rights of the public. If this right of way is granted wc understand that it will amount to a virtual re cognition of the rights of Gay and Robinson to this water. Farther more it will mean, virtu ally, to turn over to them the land of Ilanapepe at their own figure; it will he worthless without the water which has given it value all these years. . Go Slowt Safeguard Public Rights - Now the demand we want to make in the interests of the pros pective homesteader, and in the in terest of public welfare, is that the government should move cautiously and slowly in the matter ol sur rendering any possible rights of this kind and should postpone any final and decisive "action until com petent investigations have boon made and full assurance has been given to the public that it is acting n accordance with the best inter ests of that public. tureat ap plause.) Mr. J. I. Suva citea as analogous the experience of Queensland where the plantations have been compel! ed to give up coolie labor much to their final advantage. Mr. II. D. Wishard explained why he had signed tho protest against the precipitate sale of this and other leases; it seemed to be a gratuitous surrender of valuable public rights. He would like to hear from some one who knew just what the government point of view was and just what the actual situa turn was. The Homesteader no Interest in the Matter Mr. Claudius MacBride being call ed upon, explained that he had gone to the Land Olhce in the interest of his clients and to protest against the policy of the government in re gard to Hanapcpe, and that Mr Rivenburgh had declared that the sole purpose of Gay and Robinson was to convey their own water across Ilanapepe into their own lands of Makaweli. When he, the speaker, pointed out the importance of conserving the water in the inter est of the homesteader, he said the homesteader could have no right or interest in this water; a virtual ad mission that Gay and Robinson owned the water. Grant Right of Way: Admit the Claim The President I would like to ask Mr. MacBride whether, where there are rights in dispute, it doe not very seriously jeopardize those rights by granting such a right of way as this; to give a man facilitn to take away what you claim, isn' that poor practice? Mr. MacBride Quite so. To gran that right of wav to Gay and Rob inson is an absolute admission tha they own the water; you whist 1 yourself out of court the minut voudothat. As to the fundanicn tal question as to whether they ow that water and to what extent they own it, that is a complicated an uncertain question and one that can be settled only by actual ad judication before the courts. Mr. E. M. Cheat hen Why can't n intelligent government do busi ness with the same common sense that an individual does? Why can't tho government make a deal with Gay and Robinson that will secure from them enough water to cultivate the Ilanapepe lands? Wants Independent Counsel Wr. O. W. Crowell There are two parties in this matter and they old opposite contentious. Gay and vobinson claim they own the water. The public think they don't. There is no use talking alxnit it; that don't do any -good. The only thing is to take the case into 'court and try it. And who is going to lo that? Do you suppose these weak kneed officials in Honolulu are oing to fight the .case with any heart in it? No, we must have in- lependent counsel. To tha objec tion that it would be irregular to go over the head of the administra tion in any such matter Mr. Mac Bride declared that it would le quite in order to secure private at torney and sue for an injunction on the part ot any citizen who felt that his rights were being jeopar dized. Farthermore Mr. MacBride said that he had impressed on Mr. Rivenburgh the impropriety of rush ing these matters through without giving Kauai a chance to be Heard from. Oh, well." said Riven- burg, "you'll find that they won't agree to anything; they don't know what they want down there." Mr. E. W. Broadbent Has any investigation been made by the Land Commission Board on these matters and if so have they made any report? Perhaps Mr. Rice can tell us. Mr. C. A. Rice No, so far as I know, no investigation has been mado and no report. Compromise Settlement Mr. Brandt being called for said that he was very unwilling to ex press any opinion on 'matters so very uncertain and involving such large issues. He quite agreed with the current conviction that it was the duty of the government to safe guard and protect the interests of tho public in every legitimate way At the same time he somewhat questioned whether the government were in any position to dictate terms to Gay and Robinson. Years ago when the development of the Hanapcpe water was m contempla tion there' were two alternatives considered, one across Ilanapepe and the other through tneir own fee simple property. The greater expense of the latter proposition led to the adoption of the former, but the latter was not prohibitive and would no doubt still lie available It seems to me that it would b quite feasible to make an amicable compromise arrangement which would givo substantial justice to both sides. After some tanner discussion that did not add materially to t.h information the following resolution was proposed by K. M. Cheatham Resolution Calls tor Investigation V hereas it is claimed by resi dents and citizens of Kauai t lint certain government lands near Ha napepe have certain rights to water in the vicinity, "whoso ownership is now claimed by Gay and Robinson, and whereas the same lands may be soon thrown open for home steading ; It is therefore resolved by the Kauai Chamber of Commerce that it hereby requests the Commissioner of Public Lands to cause to be made a thorough investigation of this claim, and if said investigation warrants, to cause the Attorney Gen eral of the Territory to bring an action to have the question adjudi cated. This resolution was carried with enthusiasm with only two dis senting voices. Will Not Throw Open Hanapcpe Lands Mr. Jose Gomes being called fur said that Mr. Rivenburgh had dis tinctly informed him that the Ha napepe lands would not be throwi open to homesteaders for the reasoi that tnere was no water. tne water all In-longed to Gay and Rob inson, Mr, Broadbent declared that it was a very encouraging indication that the citizens of Ilanapepe had made themselves heard in protest on this matter. That sort or thing is the hopo of the future. Keep it udI Mr. O. W. Crowell called atten tion to the fact that some of these government remnants were being leased in contravention of act of legislature which made pro vision for tha sale of them to cove the cost of the Waimea embank ment. . On the sugggestion of Mr! Lyd gate this matter was referred to a special committee appointed by tl chair, said committee as apjioiiit ed consists of Messrs. Crowell, Coney and Cox. After the hearing of three various petitions formulated by way of pro test in the above matters, and yet to be circulated and signed the meeting adjourned. Wed. Oct. 10, at the Tip Top D V. .V " . i j Katmlyn William tA ht AND m IMCODOQC BOBCttTX,, s m"TriCoJ"TOF Hatred LAfKV PABAMOUNT ALSO GENERAL PERSHING IN FRANCE A Patriotic Picture of America's Hero which everyone should see. Friday and House Peters and Louise Huff 'THE LOIIESOI CHAP A Gripping' Story, Thrilling Accidents, Romance and Min ing Town Intrigue Not a Dull Moment. HOTEL LIKUE (The Fairview) Twenty t.vo elegant rooms In Main Building Thi et Aii v Cottages Cuisine unexcelled in country .districts W. H. Rice, Jr., Proprietor j WAIMEA HOTEL I Waimka, Kauai & j e I Breakfast Lunch " Dinner Room .50 .50 .00 .50 M J FRANK COX, Manager THE BANK OF HAWAII, Limited LIHUE BRANCH L'ihuk, Kauai, Hawaii Deposits are received subject to check. Certificates of de posit issued payable on de mand. Loans nude on ap proved security. 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