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. HAWAIIAN" LEGISLATURE.
Tiin rv-nusr I'av. May HI.
The As-ii-mMy m-t .iir.-.iaut to adjournine-iit. and
opfiif.l with t!j- tibial roc-t-.liiis, Vice Trfai Jen t,
J Ion. C Kh.J.-s, in the Chair.
Minister Hutchison reuJ tlie fVl.viiix :
Mr. Vic- In-.-iiliTitr Xohl-v- unj Iifju--.se:jt:itivo3:
I am Jinrn i xl. J by Hi- M:ij-ty tj ;iy lli.'it Lis
fecIiltl-.S have h'i-!l di-iily t'liclj.-fl by the exire.s
of syniia(hy cuiituiiu-tl in th r.'s..luti.ui-i in
an.-wer tt tin m-.-s:ige, couveyinr the i.jU-l!ir-n.e
f the lira tli f Lis j-Lster ju.-eil by this .s.-eui-My.
ile wa-i likewise grateful Lr the Mieiiry
ni.iriif.-sU-.l by the Commit4.-. in catisit:!; tin tvnt
luti'.i.s t,, be ir.i.'i.-riiiiu j by a tingle jierson the
CL.ihniaii f..f the Committ-., an J one of his ohlet
heran?s thrhy e.Ypre.-..-irj your approbation
that in the fiit hour ot his griff he wo'iIJ be Uli
ikbl' to iiM't-t your full Committee. Jit- has t-om-iii.tfnie.1
iu- t. s.iy that paying respect to t!;e re
Mains ot his I-cea.-eJ hister in a buJy has been
Inly appreciate'! by him as an expression of af
IfCtionate regarJ to tli JfteaeJf a.- well as to her
father, w ho is in.leeJ sorely afllictej in hi.s olJ aije,
aaJ to hiui.-e'f.
Ills llighif.s V. C I.unalilo gave notice of his
intention to introduce, a bill to anthorie the .Min-i.-ter
of the li.-tei i.r to yell lhUor to natives from
bouJeJ ttoi-Ii.)usf4 of this Kingdom.
Hon. Mr. Kaapa presented a resolution refjuest
iriij the Serjeant at-Arms to provide the members
of the Assembly with iiiouniin jeaper and en
velops, and that he be reijuired to drape the HaM
of the Assembly with proper mourning ; ami also
tliat each niemlT wear crajw on his l-tt arur dur
ing the Court term of mourning. Adopted.
Hon. Mr. Kupau introduced the following reso
lution : That the members of this Assembly be
allowed S 100 each from tie Treasury in order to
prepare them.-elvei with clothes. Ve..'b attend the
lnnerul of ller late Highuos ; and uli that $12,000
be 9ft a"ile for defraying hT Iiiiu-ral expenses.
Minister Harris stated that the Jong acquaintance
which he had enjoyed with the late I'rinee.-s. and
her father being gtiarilian of her estate for a long
time he naturally poke with great grief upon
this matter. Her worthy lather and connections
Would manage ever thing sati.-l'act.Tily. They
would apply to the Legislature for what was re
quired. He bojied the resoUitiou Voiild not le
put before- the jloiue.
His Ilighnerrf U. C I.uualilo raid that he favored
the lirst part of the resolution, and as an amend
ment would propose that all the lie present.!! h' .s
h ive 5Iim mil, but not the Nobles, as they can
well attoid to m ike ihe necsary preparatioin.
IIor. Mr. Keawcl.unahal.i favored tlu resolution
introduced by the member lor Koolauloa. and
thought that l"J.Ili) ought to be s-t apart for the
funeral expensed of Her Koyal Highness l'tinccss
Hon. Mr. NaliaoI. Iua thought thai this ougtt to
le left t tfus Ministers. ho coiihi manage it. as
they were the King's counsellors, and would, soon
know how much money would be required to be
Voted by this Assembly.
Hou. J. M.miih said that he was not in favor of
the resolution, as .?!( troru the Treasury for every
member would give the iu:pi es.-ioii tht the tlor
erniueiit were helping them to mourn. He was iu
favor of in-tructing the Minister of l'iuaii:e to pay
all reasonable hill pertaining to the expense of
Her late Highiie.-s l'limess Victoria, and rentier
an account of the expenditures to this Assernblv.
II "i. .Mr. I'kt kf r ii.J;iMi.t t tli? aiurii.kaciit uC hn.
Mr. iuah. ami th'iilit tr.at U.r Mini-ti r ut;lit ln.'iavea lauit
lt ( ua thry wintt d to. Il was in f iv -r ut tlir r solu
tin inir-xlartcl by tUc li.XM.raldc in- ucr from IvkI:iu':i.
iluu. I. K-tl.tK.iua th-rtir-).l II. tli' ,1 ii ii--j. hi re--nt be-t-tt
lhr A--mllr wn tli.-icr:iri-lul. !:! l.-!t ry t.'ial nu.-h a
r-x5alifi b- uM ciir liflorc tl? Ili use. mi h:it ( 11 not
r un mr.li ;1 yacc, u tbe 1 Tc.seiii..lo ere hllc t.
Il'ii. Mr. AU l; was in f;tvor f tt.p rtIutt"ii.
The ri-Jotim m 1:.kI n tl, t;il.- yr -"J, 9.
tu lu-ni.Mi, t!e II. .use n. .!.. I i - tli ..r.ii r of iti.- Hny. ami
the l-iii r'-l-itiii to a-luttiry aiJ f.ritte.ilsi id its ttiinl
Tr.o A-n:f;y. in CV.muiiU-e of th- VJi., tr U up t!ie li:i
to r. -l SV-vti,i 4 of 1:1 Act entitiol .u Act t' K tulte tti
'.trr intr ( l'nimt rs ln.twrct ti.e lUn.li ut lltid KiliirJuiu.
Aj prov.l July, IS. 5.
Ii.ri. yir. K- awrtiati.-ifiala ir.uve.l t!ie of the hilt.
liiiistrr xignj tt.ovr.1 ttit tUe ti l c Cuus'dcrtnl section
Mir.Kt'f Harris DioreJ that tLe bU! bt rtrfcrrtd to a Select
II n. Mr. 1't.rtf n:;d this ta m p:n-.l ly the !at Legis
lative A-ju-iiiMjr, wh.ch lutit luive Ik-tii a rirjr j.N.r one to haire
j.as.l nuch a .r la. IK' wa -o-l ! it; $Zn too
linwh to . y f r a from llawuti r Maui, lie i.iil- .l on
Ihf Mniistrrs to tell h:n !... luatiy viM-U h oi Iwtrii ot wliile
uh.It c .ntniai.xl of itir e;i l.iii- ? If the li irertriiiefit K)M
a pr. riato a um fr an iritutin to i;itruct iaaraiia:s iu
natai:-ii !; rmM n:..it it a' iV:iur'. lie askej
whether th cH .ii t.f il, A ilauta. heu he :rani-.l. ma a
dative; or l.nlii r a natirr w i ei t.o.i of t'.mtnn liiutkr.
when h. a tost; r ii th?-a-taiu of thv . ttbntii, tr.o..lrJ
a. iim'-.i. a nit.ve. ail who was lh- o.. .t.ori of the
A-'Hir I.HH'tr -u Av: was lost? Th--y w. re kaotta ygr
tu alat i i.atii;.itT-!
Itoll. Jo'.n Illi .lli'.t aLTif W.ttl th niellilT fr.'Ill K-X'IaU-
i o. ( ho ir :. the tm iiit'- r Imu K.vl ni ko- lvaii-e
y- il i'.n'l 'n-. anyti.i ir nl.ut it " tie a.u d I r thr law as
i: no -t.n.-U m .1 l y the t.st ii of thr l yii.ilurr.
I'-r!i.i. the hoi.ora'-ie ra-iul r from K iIauoLo ili.l not thitib
if thf Mtttie Mtrri.l wle-n h wa Mow it out of i:ht f the
i-Un.W 1 . r if the honorable uiefuer c u'il h ive bro'iiht
,er l. u t T s t tw was i. I in .i r to ti.rti; yu lla
Wai.ai.s. ir r.ti ii a to .rttx-t r"jU! while lraeui:j;
f:i.iu !.- i-I o.l to tto- u;!.rr.
! -. li. Ul.i.l.-t .i i lh t ttie members who thought th- prire
vf (' iKe h t.t !. r i "I lnaile foreign t at.t.ili were ill
c ii lii.tn.i w-re nit-l.tkt'ti; rv.-ryih:ir tu-re tuid iiKTeaed in
J ri"e. m itl.o te . .a- on lh : sfhoentTS
Miiu-W T Variiny iin.ve i. at art amendment t the hill, that
Vcr- Is Ih- sir..-l ut ar. th- word t.nneiidi-I nlt in its place,
a: d a:o th it lr- rnuk out a: d IT- ms'Tlril rn it stead.
Hon. Mr. Kaioaio moved that the t.ll pass as au.ei.ded.
Th bill th-n passed its second rea hurf aud was crdered to le
I'ii motion th title of a bill was read to amend - An Act to
r-p"l J'ei-tion V9 of the t'ivil ("tHle.
hi motion of il l i-trr llarr:. ti e bill, a amended, paseJ its
readiii( ami u ordered eiiirnwsed. Adj iumed.
TutKTY-sKCoMi DaV, June 1.
Assembly met at ii.-ual hour.
Hon. Mr. Ilirt introduced an Act relating to
debtor, owing sums under $lt)i. authorizing cred
itors to force debtors t work out their indebted
ness at the rate of - cts. per day rejected.
Hon. Mr. Aholo introduced a resolution to the
fleet that the Minister of Finance be requested to
set apart f'r each member of the Assembly the
Finn of for the purpo-e of furnishing them
wiili suitable mourning costume, and that eat h
member wear such mourning till the prorogation
of the Assembly rejected.
Kesolutioa from Hou. Mr. Kaapa. that the flov
rness of Hawaii be requested to come down here
to live with the Koyal family, and that ?-.U0o be
appropriated lor her support. After some debate,
resolution was withdrawn.
Hon. Mr. Keawehunahala resolution that $1,000
be appropriated for some competent teacher, to
teach navigation to young Hawaiian?.
Minister Harris said that if the honorable mem
ber of Waialua would accompany him to his office,
Le would show Lira that a great deal has been
(pent lor teaching llawuiuns navigation, and op
posed the resolution.
Hon. Mr. Ii said that he saw no sense in the reso
lution from the member ot Waialua. because young
Hawaiians could learn navigation at Lahainaluna
and moved its rejection.
Hon. Mr. Kamalo did not see any reason for in
troducing such a re.-olution as the Hawaiians could
learn navigation at some of the government schools,
and moved that the resolution be deferred till the
consideration of the Appropriation Hill.
lion. Mr. L'kcke. I think this lesolution is a pro
per one and ought to receive support truin all of
us. I have not as yet seen a native who could
na igate. It appears to me that the Minister's don't
want to teach navigation to natives but keep them
out, and let their own people have better chances
trinn the natives. I'm in favor of establishing a
Navi-'ation .School, and annii.i.i ialiii" the sum nf
C-2.4UO for its support.
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Minister Hutchison said that a.- a member el the
lloaid of Kducalion. he was very glad to see that
tie- member of Koolaupoko was in favor ot teach
ing natives navigation. He would sav that the iea-
soii he never saw a native captain of a ship was.
because they were confined only to r-chooucrs. and
if he would reflect, he would see that foreigners
generally made quicker pa-sages than the natives
as captains of schooners. Why? because the na
tives are ahvavs asleep, and caie little for the wel
fare of their vessel.
lion. Mr. L'kekc s.ii.l th.it he had not seen any m t tii.n from
any H.r.;..- con plaining ol the native i-;ii..iins i.f Idi- m-Ii-miiii is,
lau they iiiept at niicht. And asUcd ttie Minitter of lr,e
Interior, what the '.i.t.iui of the Kiaua was d.iin when she
frol ashore nl Kawailiae ?
Minitter Ilutcliis -ii tt.ited that he gave notic; to the schooner
owners of the new navigation Act, ami told tiie n that Mr. Iu
doit and Caitain 1. Siiiilh wouM teacii their m n navigation,
ami what was tle-ir answer. tht-y lii ln't care." and that they
thought tiie I ir would not be enforced. And in it will las
the same as it is now. Why because none ,f them wi:l apply
thiuitlves. And that it Would be well f-r this .4ss"i:ibly ti in
ft rue t their people in the rleiiii-iit-iry rules of navigation is all
they want, hut it would lie v. ry uuwie if w-j appropriate spu
ria! sunn f..r suc'i an institution f .r a few men to Irani naviga
tion when th-y ate w It iniu'i olT to pay tor il tliems. lves.
Hon. Mr. K.:tnalo moved that the Ileuse rt solve itself into a
('iiniiitiee of the Whole lor the consiil-ration ti bill to amend
S?tV. 'ti-il of ''ivil t'o.1- ailnptetj. p.ill p.isse.1 eei-olio rea. I i up
and eiv'r ;-d ll..u-e resolved itself into ('ouiuiitlee of the
Whole for c-nt d-ration of Appropriation bid.
Kxen.rs Supreme CoU:t, IlioluJhig expensts of witnesses in
Cr.iinii.il cases JJln) pass d.
Kxjx-ntes t'iicu t Court 2nd Circuit. inehid;ug travlinif ex-r'lis.-
of J in I ties Hl.d A tol n-l -lieiieral, 1,'JUO.
Hon. Mr. K'-aweliunaii la ui .v. il that this appropriation be
tnade to read oO0 instead of $ I. J00 carried.
Jliais cr II irrit ? tat. d that the Attorney-deiieril hail dona
h s ork alin.-t for notions f.r ihis eovernmeiit. he paid his
tr.ivc'iiiir expenses, and paid a Ihv to take care ot his oilic .
II. .n. Mr. Nahuku moved that the item pass as a men. led j
Minister Hutchison nave notice that he was going to u.oved a
rei-..ii-.l..r.uio!i of tli iieiu to-morrow.
l-pente ..f Ci ;u.l Court 4:h Circuit, including as above
f lo1! pasted.
j-tat:..ii-ry i-uprenie nnl Circuit Courts $000 pased.
1'urcli itr .f L'tw Hook MJ pas.
lion. Mr. M iheiona 1ml that he did not know how this ap. i
proj.ri.iiu ii was spent, b r Ins part he Ihouhl that tlie kiniM-im I
had enough taw l kt, and moved that the ilcui be stricken
from th A- r. pi i.ition loll.
Minister ll.it ria said that he n liu red the memlH-r for Kwa I
ami unni.e, U-eause be was a l..w. r. aud his law came out j
of I. it own :.il .onl he needed 1: 1 books t refer to, own g to j
iti uiru.r w imj u.. 1 iim ttt nw.
M.i.ittrr arij;iiy hoped that the members f.f the Asemtily
Would not u p..ri t!.e i.onor..: ie iik iiiIm r of Ka and Wai tnae
tuoti. 11, as those books wire ereatly tieeded to settle most tut -xrtaiit
questions, and wt re i.Ui ii reh-rr-il to. and hop.jd for the
honor of the member from Wa.anuc that he would withdraw
1 1 -ot. Mr. Ke.iw. htm.ihajj moved that t'i.000 ! inserted just
ati r the item of law books, !nr the pr:n:ing of Vuls. 1 and 2 of
1 iw.iiian It-ports.
Minister llutcl iton moved that action on this item he defer
red lid the amount f -r printing is brought up lost.
M mirier Validity stated Ihat tlie ineuil-cis were riisini; the
appropriat'ou to an iniineiire sum, and doii:! il blindly, and
what w.iS tti-- idea of the member f Uaialu i in putting into tlie
depMi-ineui of law, lh-. amount of C,(K0 for printing Vols. 1
And 2 ot Hawaiian Reports.
Salary iMslriet J u.i.-, I'ie n Hawaii. J.IOO passed.
-"oJ iry lis:rict Juil;;''. Kan, f 5i) patseil.
Salary iMslnct Judee, NoitU Kona, J.'.l0 pulsed.
Salary I'i-lri. t Jud'e, Sf.iuh Ki.im, $.V)o passed.
Salary I'islricl Jude. North K"l.aia t:5t0 passed.
alay Iilri:t Judge, S .uth Kohal . ?5lK) passed.
Sal ey Iitr :ct J n.t -e. HauiaKU.i, p:ied.
Salary Iijttrict Jude, W a.luku. Maui, fiO'J passed.
Minister HuLt hison s'lid iSiat he wished t tint every member
would rejire-.-i.t las own district .and not meddle iu the districts
they knew nothiiii! aLoiif.
Hon. Mr. L'Ueke, I wish my neighbor would knock off smok
int; at I have t .keii t 1 ti 1 fit several times, t'Ut he takes no 110
ti -e 1 f it, but keeps puHiiijf his ttiii k j in my face, and has
almost niaile me i
Salary lh-lru-t Jui.fe. Iltmakui, Miui, f500 pass.-d.
Paltry li.-ti:ii J;i :e. Ilin.i, .Maui. .V.0 passeil
Salary l'lttnel Jule, Ii .Lipi, laiti, jooti passed.
Sul 11 v lit:r el .Itide, l.an ti, J:'.0() p issed.
S'.i'ary l i-tn t J.fiir.-, M.iiol.ai, $'oO pats-d.
Sai try !.-; ro-t .lud.. hr.i ami Waianae, $.HhJ.
li.'ii. !r. Wo,.d tooted as an ametnimert th it lh salary of
Distri,4 Ju !- h-!i and Waianae lie rai-'d to JoOO.
lion. .Mr. .M.i!. lon.i tupporie I Ihe auiei.dineiit, maile by the
Jen. oral. I- member Irom ll iiioluhl.
lb.n. Mr. A ho.. was u. favor of raisinir salaries of the District !
M:n:itirales generally. j
lion. Mr. N ibaku moved that Couimitte rise, an.l Assembly j
adj -ui ned,
Tiiii:tv-Tu!i:i Hav, June 2, lMlti.
Assembly opened as usual.
Hon. Mr. Aholo read for the first time a bill
amending Section of Civil Code, relating to
Justices i.f the Supreme Court.
Minister lluu liifiii ashed v. hat were tin' reasons
of the Hon. member trout Molokai l..r introducing
t-iu h a biil.
Hon. Mr. Aholo I think the judges ought to pay
their own expenses, as they are paid a liberal
salary lor performing their duties.
Minister Hutchison moved that the bill be re-
jected bill rejected lfi to I ft.
Resolution from II. m. Mr. Kcpoikai that the
Sergcant-at-arms be requested to furnish the As
sembly with some postage stamps, adopted.
Hon. Mr. Wood Res. died that the members of
this Assembly attend the Stone Church to-morrow
to hear the sermon 011 the death of I'rincess Victoria.
Minister Hutchison said that le thought the
members of this A-scin'dv would attend their own
churches. Resolution mi re.pi-st was withdrawn.
House resolved itself into a Committee of the
Whole for the consideration of the Appropriation
Salary I'istrict Judge Waialua and Koolauloa
Hon. Mr. Keawehunaha'.a moved that the salary
of the I'istrict Judge of Koolauloa and Waialua be
raise. 1 to SCou ; as he had to hold court in two
places, ami entertain the members of the curt, the
Ministers or ativbodv else if thev went there, an.l
that there was a sugar plantation at Wauiln
which he hail heard made the best .sugar on the
Minister Hutchison said that this A !iy labi.retl under a
great tnisappirht-it'ion, when they tt.oiiultt they could appoint
whatever o:ti rs th '.V w.tnied l-ei aut- n ine but the King
could app :nl sah otlic- rs.
Hon. Mr. I'ominis slid that th" J:-tri.-ts of K'x.':iul a and
Wai..!i:a lay side by id". nor was th" '1 s: nice great, or the
population large, ai. d he saw no reas .:i why they shoul 1 e tell
have a j J lire.
Amen line:. t f member from Wahi'u 1, raising salary of I.s
trict Judie to Ji'.iK) put to v. te an I c.irrie.l.
Minister Harris moved a recot sid- ration r the vote. Carrie t
lb -ri. Mr. Uhoitcs sai t that he was against th.-item as amend
ed. Imr.iu-e it wont I be tre-ttit-.c the other Ii-trlct Justices
unfairly, and in regard tu the remarks ol th? Minister of the
Interior he would Say that lh" House was j-alous nf its own
rights, and Jo not interfere witli tlie i-rer. ratives of the King.
If the King il d not choose to sign any laws passed by this
Assen.bly J.e a mild send them back to the House.
Minitti-r !lu:chiso;i said the lion, member of Honolulu mit-nn-lcrstood
him, that he did not mean the whole House Unit
Were Under wroi.g impressions as to what they c uld do, but
enly Certain members anj hoped lh tt he was now fully under
stood. H.n. Mr. Keawehunahala Slid that he was pleased with the
ret:. irks of the Ministers, because they were so slick and tine;
but ti 'pc-J that the members would not let them carry them eff
I: h.s lfn s th-it the Judi:-? .f Walalai anil K v htnlna did
l.ol as to have his s:iUry raised. I:d the Cil'ector at I,liiait)a
k-li to h ive his s it.iry raided ? Iid the Attorney lienrr.il ask
fir a clerk ? No we gave them laryer salaries because we
thouL'ht they ouht to have it, so it is with the I'istrlet JuJ-e
i'( ;u;il'i:t and K'.UnloH. an.l ax it hat lt-en said that il is
unfair t will move as an aim-ii.liuei.t tii raise tho s.il:iries of alt
the tiiri-t Ju.lu'-s. as tli-r? are oi.ly l'J, frota Hawaii to
K tU:ti wIikIi ic til only cib'. K00
Motion ttj p:irs as in the hilt, cairied.
Coiiiuiitlee rose aud House udjuunied.
Tiiu:tv-koi urn Day, June 1.
The Assembly met pursuant to adjournment.
Vice I'resident (J. ilhodes in the Chair.
Hon. Mr. Wool presented a petition from the
Lepers" Hospital complaining of the Hoard of
Health, because they were not provided with a
proper doctor ; and ihat the doctor only furnished
j them with one medicine, ami if the desired effect
j was not reached, the lepers were transported to
j Molokai , mi l vaii-. us other tri'ling complaints.
ill I .. I. . . . 1 T 1
; ieierreu in a .-cicci t .iHiiinaiee coinpr.sea oi nun.
rred to a Select (..'oiiiiuittce COinp.'.sed of Hon
Messrs. Mahcloaa. Ivaapa. Smith, Keliipio and Ku
Hon. Mr. Hulueli presented a ctitiou from Na
wiliwili. praying that l.Othi be laid aside for the
purpose of building a wharf at that place. Re
ferred to Committee on Internal Improvements.
Hon. Mr. I'keke presented a petition from Koo
laupoko. praying that an Knglish school be estab
lished at Kanenhc. Motion to lay on the table.
Hon. Mr. Kamalo moved that the petition be re
ferred to a Select Committee.
Minister Harris said that he favored the opinion
of the honorable member from North Kona. as this
petition was not an honest one, and that the Com
mittee investigate the matter, and that there were
laws that would reach persons who made out Such
The Vice President appointed the Hon. Messrs.
Harris. Kam.tlo. Waiia. Kahauliiio ami Kaaliha as
Minister Hutchison gave notice of his intention
to move an amendment to Rule 31, to the etfect
that no member speak more than once on the same
Hon. Mr. Kcawehunahalci was. granted permis
sion to read for the tirst lime a bill to repeal Sec.
I. Chap. 42. of the I'enal Code, removing t lie re
strictions on the sale of liriuor to natives. On mo
tion the bill passed its iir.-d reading.
On iimiiuii the Assembly resolved itself into a
Committee id' the Whole for the consideration of
the Appropriation Rill.
Minister Hutchison moved a reconsideration of
the vote r 1 tiing to the expenses of the d ''ircuit
Court, and mrved the appropriation be $1,200.
Hon. Mr. Kcuwehuna'ta moved, us an amendment
to the item, the striking out the words traveling
expenses of Judges and Attorney General.
Minister Harris said he hoped the m nibers of
the Assembly would md follow the ideas of the
member from Waialua. as ihe salaries were appro
priated for men to live, and not lor their traveling
.Minister 1 Int. Lis..,, to.hl il...t be. ,11.1 1...1 nu.ln-
stand why s.1.000 should be appropriated for the
expenses of tlie 3d Circuit Court, and only SrtiUU
for the expen-es of the '.M Circuit Court, which has
a g.eal ileal more to attend to. lie addressed the
Assembly at sum- length regarding the expenses
of the I'd District Court and the Attorney General.
Minister Ihirris sai l that he would like to ask tin' p-iillemeii
of this llous what they would think if fie traielui'' expenses I
of t!os Assembly were ib-ducled from their salai ict ? Of course
t!ie dollars were an iiiipoi tatit iteut. If any j." nileiiH n nisln d
t see his drafts for the traveling expenses of the ute Attorney
Cen-ral, he would be happy to show tin in to him. Ile would
ak if Hiiy mail could travel around llawnii for any less than
Hu? which am .uut il Cost him when making the circuit of
that island and p iyiuj; his passage, lie did not ask this House
for money to pay for a servant, but took care of his own horse
Mid carried his oivn bas.'ffa!e. If the Attorney tJeiirr.il has a
iriend who lends him a horse, he does not charge Ihe (Sovern
ni nt f r it, but it noes for ttie (rood of the nation. There was
not a single ireiitlem 111 in this House, who is a Government
officer, that pays his traveling ex-iises and why exclude the
Attorney G m.-ral. when lite tr.ivelinir expenses of lh" humblest
1 coiitt ibhs ure paid by the Government. Acc-jrditic to the ideas
of some ot the members here, if tlie Attorney Oeneral sends ihe
Marshal or a policeman anywhere, lie can charge it, but if he
pocs hiii. self lie mi:st pay his own expenses. If at Kuupo they
I they get into a little trouble, anil the ' ttorney General goes
j and has to pay his own h'.rs- hire, ,c , is it not a ii!t e queer?
j He hoped the 1111 -tubers of the Assembly would consider what
I It" had said If a man's traveling eXene5 are not worth pay-
! int: for, it was not v rlh while for him to go. Some remarks
1 hale been made here as to who was to lie the Attorney General,
j and in answer lie would say that lie did not know, nor did the
1t1g know, out 11 ai meiiioer 01 .ue House eoui i leu lie
should certainly IUe to hear who it was to be. Member from
Koolaupoko 1 am to !e ltorney General."! f l'ie Attor
ney General has resigned his otiice ami accepted that of Minis
ter of finance, which has the same salary attached t it, lie
It. Us! have some reasons for so ilninii perhaps because tli
work was too gnat, or some other reason l.est k.iown to him-
svlf. He askeil if tlie members ex'Cted to get 11 first class
in-tn her.-to work t-r his own living, and do the work of the
Attorney General besides, for iiodiing. He was s.rrv to hear
the remarks toi li eii.anate.l from the member br liana, and
he probably was uware that Some lime tlie Attorney Gen-
er il attended I'o.irt at liana on tiis account, ami when thruuch
with him, left hit .p-picy to att"ti.l to other cas-9 and paid the
deputy himself f T his ser :; arid, if he remembers rightly,
there was a petiti ir, front l!:tnn to remove liim from his seat as
J a. I :;e. ami d.d not lh" Attorney li.neral go up there and settle
the matter amicably between the parties, and let him r tain his
s-at ? The il.ivi rnor of Maui woiiid testify that wan the only
reason thai sent him t liana m that tcasion. lie only said
what he (I id for the benefit of his bucoessor as Attorney General,
and the members would see hat since the M of December
last, tie has done the work of Atu l ie y General wittt tlie sliirht
i tt reiiiurieration. and will still coiitiiiue to do so titl a man is
appointed to the i tiice.
Hi n. Mr. Keawe'.unahata said that when the item under
iii-01-sioii wns rend he voted to put it down because 110 mention
wat made for e-enes of jur rs. Are., and il is supposed that
Ihe pay !;iven the Attorney General and the Judges is f r the
J erfotinance of their duties throuehoi.t the kiiitil in, they do
not receive ttie a!aly for the ptrfoiutance of lle ir duties in
Honolulu a'one. The Governors of ttie different islands have
toe me to this Ass-ii.hiy and pay th"irowu passages. If this
wat uiade f -r th" Inspector Get. era! he should Vote I .r it. as he
has a i.reat ileal of traveling to ! and docs not receive any
tiioi.ev to pay traveling expetises. (here Minister Harris st.dcd
tiiat he w.is pa ill toil a year out of the School fund) an.l re-ceiv-d
on'y .10'l 1 ear fr his scrviin.-s. (Minister liutchiou
Slid that the m-mbi rsdid not lliide.ttaitd t!.emS"l Ves, nnd that
money was appropriated to the different boards, and they sper.t
It as th-y tie 11 .'lit lies! ) I shall not believe what some of th"
Mini-ier say if they arirue f' is war. bf if if thiy are luynl
miV brciiue tin y titt t'ltir mum y out nf thin tJuvtrmiinit,
Mr. Hates il ii 11 t receive any money for las traveling expanses
an I had to appoint D striet Jude.
Minister Il.uris catl-d ttie ni' mber of Waialua to or ler for
Stat. in; for a fact wh it was not a f ict.
lion. Mr Keawe,uTiahala continued. that it had been said
rei tli" other si 1 tint th-v di 1 re -l k'low who the Attorney
Geneiat Was to t-, therefore tie Assembly should te careful
how th'-y appropr a'.e such amounts. heaue he may want
fancy h res an I go in the best vesels on his tours to the other
islands, lie w..nt car" how much tie spends, tefau-e the G iv-erMie-i.t
will foot the bills. Our late Attorney General ha3
t.ik'-n up with anew offije, liecause hi lite position wis too
burdensome to him. and Cost him a great deal to pay hit travel-
' expenses, and wanted .11 ollije that WcUld keep liim here j
Hon. Mr. K ikani I was one of thosi who favoi-e,l striking 1
t.u: th" wir Is "triv'.ling exp-tise of J.idges and Attorney j
Geiier it, and still a there to my former opinion. 1 wit! ;-ek i
to tl... fwiut and not travel o.f 01 to oti. r thinirs. at d.d the 1
Mirsi-r of Kin i:ice. Tlie no.ti .11 b-f.re th" Assenibly is to
strik - ut th" e. r It " trav e!:ni expenses of Ju lg. s and Attor
ney General." There is ft'Hm a year appropriated for the
Att..r:.ey li iieta', and 1 tl- re t e the u4e of giving liim any
r.i .re ;.t he has ami le to iy his own tr.iv-hi-. exi"-nses. Are
w" t urid-r-t.ir.d th it we pay this centleman tu0 a year to
l-rforai hi" duti. s in Honolulu only. It lias been s iid that the J
Attorney Gen rat -itt- tided curt at liana, on account only of I
tf." .lii.ii;" of that district bein h Kr r:chmnn. I acknowledge ;
it. but that is no r- is..n why I sh.011! 1 vote for the pasme of !
tins item a s-enis to lie the arjuni"fit of tt;e Mitilster "f Fiii iuc".
I do n-t s e why Juices. Mi:.i-ters and Attorney Generil I
sh 'ii'd r-c- ive nny more than ttiey get tio. It is pr'nr to j
appr priat m -ii'-v h r the expense of th" C urt; but n t for the
Attorney Gen-ril's or the Ju lje trtii-rlimj fT;.oiSf.i. If we j
ar- g-dt g tn a pn.priate money for tlie truveiir.ir exji- nse of the
Attorney G-neral we I. 'id better cut his salary down o 7.0o0: ,
I iirne yon Kepresentatives to c iisider this matter seriously;
we hate come here to carefully con-ilor the expenditure of
every cent by tlie Ministers or Alt. rr.ey General. If the House
dovs not pass this it'-m th" Attorney ib-nerat. whoever he may
be, will craw his traveling expenses from the fees received by
Minister Harris asked the Assembly sonr? few questions and
then ref- rre-f tti-m to Sccti 11 IDC'a'of Civil Code, and state 1
that btf-Te his appoin'.ment the work of an Attorney General 1
cost some $5 500 a year. f
Hon. Mr. Kamalo I am r.ot of the same opinion of some Of
the members of this Assembly, some say that they voted with
out knowing what it was for, everything tliat I vuicd for I per
fectly uiiderstottd. I introduced a resolution that the traveling
expenses of ihe Governors of the Islands (excepting the Gov
ernor or Uahu) lie paid out of ihe Treasury, but it was rejected.
Everything 1 have voted for 1 have considered Seriously, and
because I vote for some thing, I am called a hiopilimeaai;"'
ti.e traveling expenses of the member of this Assembly are paid
as well as the $160 which they get lor sitting in this Assitubly.
1 am in favor 01 passing this item of $1M0 for traveling ex
lieiises of the Judges and Attorney General. I am not going to
stand here for the purK.se of having uiciul-is koku me and
then vote 011 the opH-site side. If the members of this House
do Hot want this item to pass they had I tter pay their own
traveling expenses also. I am in favor of ilie tpiestiou asked
by the honorable member for Waialua and supi-rt his idea of
hiiviuir an appropriation made for the traveling expense of the
Inspector-General. I intend when the item of miscellaneous
e-xpen iiluies is under discus-siori to introduce a resolution to de
fray the tiaveling expenses nf Ihe Governor of Maui and Kauai.
The item for exiMrnsesofJuttgesai.il Attorney-General. 2d
Circuit Court passed s in the buJget J1U00.
Committee ruse, aud Assembly adjourned.
TiiiitTV-KH-ru Iay, June 5.
Assembly met at 11 A. M. and opened with usual
proceedings, Vice IVes-ident lion. G. Khudes in the
Hon. Mr. Aholo introduced a resolution to the
ell'ect that the sum of Sti.OUi) be appropriated lor
the purpose of printing a book on Navigation in
the Hawaiian language tallied.
Hon. Mr. Nahaku introduced an amendment to
rule :$1. to the ell'ect thai no member be allowed to
speak neve than fifteen minutes on any one sub
ject. On motion of Minister Varigny. resolution
Minister Hutchison withdrew his notice to amend
rule '.il of the House.
lion. Mr. Mahelona introduced a resolution that
the Minister of Interior set apart some room in the
Insane Asylum, for the purpose of taking care of
old women and men who have no children, and
that the Minister of Finance be instructed to by
aside the sum of $3,001) for their support. Reso
Hon. Mr. Mahelona introduced a resolution that
the Minister ol" Finance reserve the sum of $3,000
for the additional expenses of the Lahainaluua
Seminary for the purpose of procuring a teacher
of navigation and a medical teacher.
Minister Harris said that he was astonished at
the member from Waianae and Fwa, and if he
would go with him up to his ofiice, he could teach
him practical navigation in two hours and a half
provided he could add. subsiract and divide.
Hon. Mr. I'keke was iu favor of the resolution
with the exception of the medical teacher at La
haiualuna. because there are Hawaiian disease
which foreign doctors cannot cure, and which are
only curable by the attendance of Hawaiian doc
tors. He was in favor of having a Medical Insti
tute with a Hawaiian, for professor. A foreign
doctor excelled in taking out eyes and amputating
limbs, but otherwise a native doctor was as 0-00.1
as any foreign one. for he will make a sick man
well and bri.sk. Suiting the action to the words,
he made some expressive gyrations of his limbs
and body, which satisfied every one of the force of
Minister Varigny rose and informed the
honorable member that the Legislative Assembly
was not a dance hall.
I'keke replied that he did not see why he could
not throw hi.s legs about as well as Mr. Harris,
though they were not quite so long.
Ibui. Mr. Kamalo moved that the resolution be
referred to the Sanitary Committee carried.
Mill to amend Section of Civil Code, read on
its third reading. This law relates to the election
of officers in the Fire Department.
Minister Hutchison moved that the consideration
of this bill be postponed.
Hon. Mr. Moyd was opposed to the motion.
Hon. Mr. Varigny was in favor of the motion of
the Minister of Interior, as he saw no reason for
any objection to it. The election of officers lor the
Fir; Department was the life of the department;
and if elections were put olf for two years the de
partment would loose its inteiest in elections.
IIn. Mr. Ihuuinis said there is 110 city in the
Pacific of the size of Honolulu that has a finer
I-ire Department, and was in favor of the bill, but
if the Ministers wanted to postpone, the considera
tion of it. he had no objections as the Fire Depart
ment has had its annual election, and a few days
would make but little difference to it.
lion. Mr. Kamalo moved that the bill pass on its
third reading, as it would be making a bad prece
dent for the House to postpone the consideration of
a bill on its third reading.
Hon. Mr. Kamakau s aid that last evening he had been cahed
to a meeting of the f'ire Department, and they were all satisfied
with the bih, and so no reason thai its consideration bhould be
Motion to defer consideration of the bill lost.
Motion to pass the bill on its third reading earned.
I:i motion House proceeded to the order of the day.
:i motion of Hon. Mr. Kamalo. 11 .use resolved itself into a
Committee of ihe Whole f.jr the reconsideration of salary of
District Ju.le for Waianae and Ka.
Hon. Mr. Kamakau in the Chair.
Hon. Mr. Dominis moved that the item nf salary of District
Ju lire of Wai inae and Ewa pa t f i)t) as 111 ttie Appropria
tion Hill, as tie had been 011 M ini ami Hawaii, as well as over
this isi tnd, and never saw that the Ju.ljre of Kwa and Waianae
had mure work thsti any other District Justice, and had never
heard him complain of his salary. He was in f ivor of reducing
it to i.-'0i, ia order to prevent injustice to the other Jji-ir.el
lion. Mr. Wood moved th it the item pass at $000. as amend
ed. As he was tlie one that made the amendment, lie would
support il The Justice at Ewa and Waianae was a poor man
and his house whs in a very delapidated condition as the Minis
ters woul 1 see by uoiiur down there, he also had a large family.
Ih n. Mr. It' yd said tie should vote for ttie iiem as in the bill.
I'.iii. Mr. K ini tio lm in favor of passing the item ati iu the
hill, liecause the person who niicht to know alt a' out it (the
Governor of the Island) says that his salary is sufficient for the
du'ies that tie d iscli ar-res.
Hon. Mr. Ii was iu favor of pussine this item as in Hie bill.
lion. Mr. KVs.ir.i was in favor of trivmg the District Judge
at r.wa and Waianae o0o in stead of JoOo as in the Appropria
tion Hill, and if the Government were eor at one time ami
reduced the salaries of its officers, why should it not raise
them, now that they have a large surplus in the treasury.
lion. Mr. KeawehiiTiahat.-i s:iid that he felt ashamed to think
that this matter of $100 h id tak u up s much time from this
Assembly. lie was a magistrate under tins Government for
Some t.me and the salary received was not enough to support
him, how can these magistrates entertain the Ministers, if they
only receive tins pnltry salary. It is net just the thing for the
m.iei-tr.i'es to g to w..rk at their taro patches, ic, and if a
case come up t-f..re th -m, to jast step out of their taro patih
and sit as Judge, when they are covered all over with mud.
Hon. Mr. Dominis whs surprised at some of the members of
this House who piss by their own districts, and when they
come to this island. tln.y vote to rai the salary of the District
Judges, and did not want any member of this House to think
he was fpposed to raising the salary of the District Judge.
His ol j-cti on to it was that it would he aJ act rf injustice to
th" other District Magistrates. He had been by all these Mag-i-tra'.vs
houses, but did not stop with them. It is a mistaken
idea that some of the members have regarding the Judges eu
teit lininir the Ministers. A:c.
Hon. Mr. Lk-ke I have said before tliat when the pay of a
foreigner comes up it is raised or passed, but when a native's
en-., s up it is taken and n a-hed up hke a crab by the Mini-ten
t ill it is a mere To.thinL. I should I. ke to see the Ministers have
th-f -i'1'iwing offices, the M.nister of Finance. District Jude of
Kw 1 and Waianae; the Minister of For-igti Relation. I'istrict
Judge at Waialua and Koolauloa; the Minister of Interior,
District Judge at K'to'aupoko; ami the Governor of Uahu,
Dis'.r ct Ju.lire .it Uuai; an.l s" how they woul.J Hk it, and
let n..tives till the offices r-f the Mi. listers Therefore Ministers
I entreat you to vote for the pass lire of this item ns amended
an i you will be respected, you will not le respected by holding
the money tack, u:ile,s y,.u come forward and say that your
salaries are t'K much and you wiil t content with $ 2000 a
year, as JtODO would tie too burdensome to the Government, I
would say to some of my fellow Representatives not to watch
the Ministers or Goverurr ttefore they vote, and vote with them,
hut Vote as Iht-y think best, if their office of tax Collector,
assessor, c, do interfere with it.
Motion to pass item as amended, tost. 13 to 16.
Motion to pass item District Judjje Kwa and Waianae as iu
the Appropriation Hill, carried.
Item s.lary f the District Judge of Koolaupoko, $500.
Hon. Mr. Vkeke moved to make it $7oO.
Hon. Mr. KeawehuuahaU moved tu amend the item by
makiiu; it f 400.
The motion to pass as amended at $400 was lost.
'1 he motion to pass as amended by member from Koolaupoko
at $700 whs lost.
Motion to pass the item as iu the Appropriation Lilt at $500
was can ted.
Hou. Mr. Keawct uuahala moved a reconsideration of the
vote to morrow.
Minister Harris then moved a recousideratiofi of the vote
to-day. Put to vote anil carried.
Mmisur Harris moved that the item past, as in the bill,
Hon. Yr. Keawehunahala rose to a question of order, aud
said tliat his motion was to reconsider to-morrow, and as it
was the f.rst motion made, he claimed that il bhould have been
put to vote first.
The Chairman (Mr. Kamakau) ordered Mr. Keawehunahala
to t.ike I is seat, which he refused to do, as he claimed to be iu
order, and had the floor.
The Chairman again ordered him to sit down, and the mem
ber again refused.
Minister Harris, in a low voice to tlie Interpreter, said
" Ask the Chairuiitu to let me take the Chair."
The Interprets to the Chair " Mr. Harris wants you to let
him ttk.' the Chair."
The ( hairiuan tneii beckoned to Minister Harris to take the
Chair, which he did, and assumed the functions of Chairman.
Minister Harris (from the Chair) ordered Keawehunahala to
lie seated, which lie refused lotto, replying that lie (Harris) had
110 authority to command him, as he was not Chairman.
Minister Harris again ordered the member Irom Waialua to
be seated, and upon his refusing, ordered the Acting Sergeant-at-Arms
(W. F. Jourdan) to scat the member, who repliid that
he would not be seated at his order.
Miiiisier Harris then ordered the Sergeant-at-Arms to remove
the member from the House. When ihe isergeant-at-Arms at
tempted to carry out ttie order, ttie members rose up iu a body,
including two of the Nobles, and protested against any such
action on the art of the Minister, i-houts of " Come down out
of that Chair," 44 You have no business there," Hele pela,"
and such tike wure heard amidstreat Confusion.
The Minister seized the gavel, but could not bring Ihe House
to rder, as the wildest excitement prevailed. During a tem
porary lull uf tlie noise, a motion was made that the Committee
rise which was carried.
Hon. Mr. Kupau then moved that the report of ttie Commit
tee be adopted, with the exception of the salary of the District
Judte of Koolautioko.
Minister Harris rose and said, I have but little to say respect
ing the little excitement that has just been passed over, and
which is, no doubt, now quieted. I wilt say, however, that
when a member is requested to sit down by the Chair, he ought
to do so. Mr. Kamakau requested me to lake the Chair.
Mr. Kaapa You askrd Mr. Kamakau if you bhould take
the Chair, and it was settled ttetweeu you.
The I'ltsiilent informed Mr. Harris that he must speak in
Mr. Kamalo said the motion of the honorable member for
A tiiulu t was not put to vole, and that caused the whole dis
turbance. Minister Harris said, everybody in this Assembly should
obey tiie Chairman, and u lieu one member is staziding up talk
ing, very little business can be done. 1 told the honorable mem
ber for Waialua to take his seat rctteatedly and he would not,
so under ttie greatest pain I ordered tlie STgeant-at-Arms to
remove him from ihe House, nnd now tliat the matter is calm,
I will say I was trying to be heard, and before I was, it was
not proper tu discharge the Committee. I will move tliat the
report of the Committee be rejected, although I believe it to be
Correct. 1 will s..y that I am extremely sorry to think that I
had to give such o.ders regarding the memler for Waialua, but
1 had to, to preserve order. 1 did not do it with ill intent, and
hope the members will think so.
on motion of Minister Harris the report was rejected.
The Assembly adjourned.
Thuity-sixth Day, June 6.
The Assembly met at the usual hour.
lion. .Mr. Adiolo wtsbea to correct me minutes.
They read that the Chairman of the Committee ask
ed Minister Harris to take the Chair, when it is
well known to all that the Minister asked the Chair
man (lion. Mr. Kamakau) to let him have the Chair.
Hon. Mr. Keawehunahala said that many things
that transpired had been omitted in the report,
and that he thought they should be inserted.
At the request of the Vice President, the Secre
tary (Ii. II. Stanley) rose to explain that his duty
was to keep the minutes of the Assembly, and not
of a Committee of the Whole ; that when the Com
mittee rose and reported, he noted the report, and
referred the Hon. Mr. Keawehunahala to Rules 13,
14, 15 and IC
Minister Varigny said, as the Chairman of the
Committee (Hon. Mr. Kamakau) was present, that
he could best say whether the Minister of Finance
asked him for the Chair or not.
Hon. Mr. Kamakau arose and stated that he was
Chairman of the Committee, and had decided that
the member Irom Kohala should relinquish the
lloor to the member from Waialua; and that, look
ing towards the Minister of Finance, he was asked
by him to ulloic him (the Minister) to take the Cluiir,
and he assented, and called him to the Chair.
lion. Mr. Mahelona asked that the Minister of
Finance be not permitted to f-peak in this House.
The Vice President said the Minister had rights
which must be respected.
The Secretary read the remarks of Hon. Mr.
Kamakau as recorded.
The Vice President said they should be inter
preted. Minister Harris objected. The Vice
President, amid calls for the translation, ruled that
it should be translated.
Minister Harris I have no recollection of ask
ing for the Chair, and wish the question be asked
the Chairman (Mr. Kamakau) if he did not first
make me a sign before I asked for the Chair.
Hon. Mr. Kamakau repeated the former remarks,
denying thereby that he saw a sign.
Minister Harris asked that the question as to a
sign be again asked.
Hon. Mr. Kamakau said he did not wish to lie
pressed with questions by the Minister, and hoped
the matter would be dropped.
Minister Harris said he was not aware of having
any intention to ask tor the Chair, but as the Hon.
Mr. Kamakau has stated that I did ask him for the
Chair. I would state that it has been the custom
lor the President to call a member to the Chair
when in Committee of the Whole, and that the Hon.
Mr. Kamakau had only followed the custom by
vacating his Chair. It is usual for the Chairman of
a Committee to call a person to take the Chair, it
my experience is correct. Here followed a long
rambling discussion on the part of Minister Harris,
in which it was evident that he desired to dodge
the fact of having asked for the Chair. The argu
ment was evidently made with the intention of
His Highness Prince Lunalilo arose and inter
rupted the proceedings by saying that Judge Ka
makau tohl him. yesterday, that Minister Harris
fli'l ask him ftr the Chair.
The Vice President requested the Trince to be
Minister Harris hoped that he would not have
an opportunity afforded him to contradict the Hon.
Hon. Mr. Aholo slid that the whole force of Minister Harris'
argument sef-tned to b- to vindicate Hon. Mr. Kamakau, as
though the Hon. Sir. Kamakau was before the House for his
action in calling the Minister to the Chair. It has been said
that the minutes, which I Wish corrected, are immaterial. It
may be so, but from this fume little matter arose the trouble
yesterday, and I am sure that so soon as the minutes are
accepted more will come from this immaterial matter. I have
no d iubts as to the fact that tlie Minister asked for the Chair.
Mi:iis er Harris corrected the translator, making a Sign.l
The Minister lepeateilly ake.d for the chair.
Hon. Mr. Kupau was pleased to hear the wild speech of the
Minister f Finance aud his calling it an immaterial matter
and tiad this been his custom heretofore, we should not have
this large assembly here to-day. Minister Harris arose and
said he had not said it was an immaterial matter or any words
to tliat eff-ct.j After some, further remarks by the Hon. mem
ber he was arain interrupted by the Minister of Finance who
was ruled out of order by tlie Vice President. The Hon. Mr.
Kupau wished tlie Minister of Finance to remember that he
had listened with patience to his speech and he wished the
same courtesy shown him. When the Minister of Viaa.nct
took the chair, he was not cool about it as our present Chair
man, but seized the gavel and striking the desk ordered tbo
i-crgcant-at-arms to arrest the member from Waialua. I say
the Minister did very wrong. 1 won't try to hide my Indigna
tion at whit tnik place. 1 was angry and when the Minister
of Foreign Affairs asked me to abate my anger. I struck my
desk, aud broke iu Had not the Minister of Foreign Affair
spoken to me so kindly, I was preparing to go and pull Ihe
Minister of Kiuanco from ttie chair by force, and carry him to
his seat. The Secretary refers us to rules of the House and!
says he will not write what we want him to. Corrected by
the secretary, who said he had not said so.)
Hon. Mr. Kamalo said the motion before the House, to correct
the minutes, is in order, and supported It, reviewing the trans
actions of yesterday at some length.
Hon. Mr. I'keke said he heard the Chairman (Hon. Mr.
Kamakau; make his remark aud said he did not tell alt. I
think he was the cause of all the trouble yesterday, be seem
fearful or afraid. 1 myself saw and heard the Minister of
Finance both ask and make signs for the chair. Prince Lunalilo
said he also saw aud heard it. Hon. Mr. Kamakau ought to
have known what the Minister of Finance wanted, because
Hon. Mr. Keawehunahala had the floor and he is the Minister's
op(Hinf nt. He gut ttie chair and then called the Sergcant-at-anus
to arrest the member, I was excited aud nearly broke tuy
desk. I was starting for the bergcant.
Minister Varigny said the minutes said tlie Chairman ratted
ttie Minister of Finance to tlie Chair, this it as Ihe Chairniuu
says : The Chairman also says that he did so upon receiving
an intimation from the Minister that he wished the Chair. Tlie
minutes are Correct, the Secretary is uot called upon to note the
reasons why the Minister was called to the Chair. 1 cannot
supKrt the motion as I claim the minutes are correct, but tlm
Secretary may note in to-day's proceedings, why the M mister
was called to tlie Chair ?
Hon. Mr. Keawehunahala wished the Interpreter to be ques
tioned as to w hat took place.
The President ruled ii out of order to rail in outside evidence;
there was evidence enough in. Mr. K. said, why should the
Secretary have been apiu-aled to by them, and now not allow
the Interpreter? The President said he hail ruled it out of or
der if the honorable member wished, he eould appeal to the
House.) I wish the facts arrived at. W hat are we to think cf
ttie statement of the Minister. 1 should hate to have any mem
ber called a liar. The Minister says he was called to the Chair.
The Chairman says he did call but not until he had been re
quested to by the Minister. From the statement of the Minis
ter of Finance, 1 am led to Ix'lieve he calls the Chairman
liar, and I regret this very much, and if 1 am not allowed to
call on the Interpreter I shall be led to believe tliat the House
thinks so. I saw the Chairman advance n-aiii to take his seat
aud saw him pushed away by the Minister. If he was called
to the Chair, why did he uot surrender it when the Chairman
advanced to take it ? The Chairman had ruled that the mem
ber from Waialua had ttie floor, the Minister moved rapidly to
the Chair to put the member down. Why f liecause the Minis
ter knew I was opposed to his views, and that the member from
Kohala would support his views. The Minister has said ho
wished to bring about older. There was no trouble until he
reached the Chair. Had he said he went their tu cause disor
der, I will say he succeeded. He has had a long discussion
here over what he styled an immaterial point. Why has he
done sof His argument is not like a ministers, it is more like a
lawyers. When the othtr Ministers speak, they give their views
and then sit down, not go on like lawyers. It is clear to me
that one of the Ministers comes here with Intention of usurping
halt the rights of the people. What Minister.' The Miuisler
Hon. Mr. Smith I do not intend to go intoau argument upon
the rights of the transactions of yesterday, for I consider it out
of order. Here followed an argument as to the duties of the
Secretary in which he supported tlie secretary's views.
The question to correct the minutes was put to vote and car
ried by a large majority.
Hon. Mr. Keawehunahala moved that the transactions of the
Committee of tlie Whole lie placed tn the minutes of the House.
The Chair ruled that the inemler should write out the trans
actions amended as he proposed to insert ; but that if it was to
be of any length tliat we should proceed to the order of the day.
The House then proceeded to the order of the day.
II. II. Prince Win. Lunalilo presented a resolution that the
Interpreter keep his seat while a member is speakiug and not
rise unlil the Noble or Representative is finished.
Hon. Mr. Keawehunahala presented a resolution that this
legislative body express there satisfaction of the gentlemanly
conduct of the Minister of Foreign Affairs.
The Minister wished it withdrawn, he could not accept of such
a resolution, when it did not include his colleagues. The mem
ber withdrew it.
Minister of Finance, both iu his acts before this and all which
may come after.
Hon. Mr. Kaapa moved to table the resolution.
Hon. Mr. Kupau said he would not advocate tattling it. The
Minister has caused a great deal of trouble uot only yesterday
but before. He has reteated!y told the Representative that
they might pass what they pleased, but lie would not allow IU
The Ministers duty is laid down in Art. 43 of the Constitution
he is to come into this body and advise with us, Dot dictate
to us. I do not wish the Minister's foot put upon my neck, as
he has often attempted to put it. We have rights here as well
as himself. 1 call uou you. Representatives, not to be fearful
of the Minister. Never mind the offices of Tax-Collectors and
Tax-Assessors and other things he may be abls to reward you
lion. Mr. Kamalo said this resolution is important ; if we
pass this, tlie uext thing that will follow is the proroguing of
this Assembly. If this passes we shall he without an Appro
priatian Bill which the Constitution claims, must be laid before
it. The resolution says 44 all acts which have passed." la
there anything wrong iu his rejiort f I do not like this resolu
tion ; we might, as well move to resign. I cannot nupitort the
Hon. Mr. Kalakaua was in favor of tabling the resolution, but
had rather that the member should withdraw it, (The member
replied, no. Mr. K., I would have it tabled, because I think it
a disgrace to this body to have it go forth. The trouble was the
work of a moment, and should be forgotten ; the resolution is
childish and insane. People will alone approve it. The Hon.
Mr. Kupau said, I wish you to take that back the Constitution
savs, fools and insane people shall not be allowed litre.
Hon. Mr. Mahelona was in favor of the resolution. We are
here under the Conttitutiou. The insult put upon one of our
body was put upon ua alt. l.'nder the Constitution we have
rights. Ity Arts. Jo and 14 of the Constitution we see that we
have rights. The member from Koolauloa has rights which
must be respected in common with all nf us. It is argued by
some that this is a disgrace to the Assembly. One argues that
tliis would be prorogueing this Assembly, to show such mem
bers their mistake, 1 would call their attention to Art. 23 of the
Constitution. I am surprised to hear some members proise to
table this resolution ; are they afraid of the Ministers liecause
they sit in this House; if so they are not doing their duty. I
would urge all my fellow Representatives who feel this awe for
the Ministers to remember their rights under the Constitution.
If any of you feel this way, disabuse yourselves. If some of
you are expecting offices from the Ministers, remember that you
rhnul I not allow your private interests to interfere with your
public duties. We have rights and prerogatives by the Consti
tution. I stand here to represent the rights of my constituents.
I do not fear the Ministers, and shall stand up fearlessly to my
duty. The Minister whom we have under discussion, is one
of my friends, is of my profession, but my acquaintance and
friendship shall not prevent me from doing roy duty. If this
resolution fails, we can then iuiiteach him. It is proper for ua
to discuss this resolution.
Minister Varigny rose with deep regret to sjeak on this res
olution. I have heard tlie Representatives say they do not
fear the Ministers. The Ministers do not fear anything, but to
do wrong. I have cautioned the Assembly against acting
rashly. I have advised them to act wisely. Can any man say
that he will treat wilh contempt what this man has done before
or may do hereafter. I know by c-Xierienee how people will
differ in politics, how such differences generally end in bitter
personalities, and they are degrading from whoever they come.
It has been said that we should be recklecs in tabling this reso
lution; I think we should be reckless in suporting it. We all
heard the resolutions and sieeches matte to exiel a member.
What became of them when the good sense of this body was
brought to bear uMn them J I have heard the expressions
44 prorogue," "dissolve," 44 imjteach." with deep regret. Are
we to allow personal aiiimr sities and fe"litigs to influence us al
we proceed with this session ? When I look UHtn the portraits
cf those Kins, 1 remember the misdeeds under the rule of the
first, and that under this one we have a legislative Assembly,
thanks to those who preceded us. In this body a week ago,
forgeting auimntiilie and ttersonalities, we passed resolutions of
condolence on the death of a daughter of Hawaii. I ask myself,
am I before the same body and in tlie same house f He also
alluded to the feelings of the Hon. President, mourning the
tlie tosa of a daughter ; cf our Sovereign, surrounded by ttie
insignia of mourning, and asked that the present feeling cf
animosity lie buried so deep as never to rise again. Aud that
the passace of this resolution would do more to prevent the
progress of Constitutional Government than we know of ; that
if the member would wi'.hdraw it he would be doing the coun
try and people a great service.
Hou. Mr. Kahaulelio was opposed to the resolution.
Hon. Mr. Kamalo after conference with Minister Harris
asked the President that the Sergeaut-at-arms bring the Minis
ter of F"ore!gn Affairs to his seat. And then r'.se to speak on
his former remarks to explain certain words; said this House,
the eople and the King were held in contempt by this resolution.
Hon. Mr. I'keke There is something in the resolution I am
surprised at. I supposed that this matter was to be settled
peaceably. Tlie intention of this resolution is to create an ex
citement or a fright. I would advise to table it and forget what
The motion to table the resolution was carried 20 ayes, &
noes 'i uot voting. Assembly adjourned.
The Merchants' National Bank failure in Washing
ton is still undergoing investigation both hy the
Treasury and War Depart meMs. The Bank behl a
total of S762.312 Governroent fund., of which
009,181 were deposited between the 20th cf April
and 3J of M iy wheu the Bank failed. Bayue & Co.
of Baltimore owed the Bank S780.000, and their
failure h9 involved at least four Baltimore ia
heavy loss one cf them (name not reported) loses
S300.000; another S100.000. Besides these many
private individuals lose large sums. The Govern
ment officer investigating the matter thinks the Gov
ernment will not realize 5,000 from the assets ex
clusive of 109,000 held as security for Government
deposits. Thi9 failure will probably revolutioaije
the system of using National Banks as public depositories.