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THURSDAY, JUNK 01, 1885.
WASTE OF TIME.
About fifteen minutes of Tuesday
morning's session of the Legislative
Assembly, after the reading of the
minutes, wns devoted to the despatch
of business. The remainder of the
time, up to the hour of recess, .was
consumed in debating points of
order. Yesterday forenoon, matters
were no better, but rather worse.
The occasion of the trouble of
Tuesday morning was a report, pur
porting to be from a committee of
thirteen members, but which was
really a report of seven members of
the committee, the other members,
with one exception, not having seen
the report or heard of its existence,
until hearing it tend in the house.
This attempt to gag their colleagues,
on the part of the seven members of
committee was very properly re
sented. Mr. Dole moved to amend
the resolution to lay the report of
the seven wise men on the table and
await the report of the minority, so
that the report would be returned to
the chairman to have it submitted to
the whole committee. The amend
ment proposed was in harmony with
the precedent of the United States
congress, by which every chairman
of committee is obliged to consult
every member of his committee. A
ruling of tho chair was asked by
Mr. Castle, whether this was not the
proper course to take, and given by
the President in the alllrmative.
Both the amendment offered by Mr.
Dole, and the ruling of the Presi
dent were directly in the line of rule
82 of tho house, which prescribes
that English and United States pre
cedents shall be followed when the
proceduce is not definitely laid down
in the rules of the house. .Thus the
amendment and the ruling of the
chair were unquestionably in order,
but it did not happen to suit the
fancy of certain members, at that
time to be guided by rules or rea
sonable precedents. An appeal from
the decision of the chair to the house
was offered by the honorable mem
ber for Lahaina, representative
Aholo, who while moving his appeal,
committed one of the most glaring
breaches of order perpetrated in tho
house since its opening, by pcrsist
. ently keeping the lloor, though called
to order three times by a member of
the house and once by the President.
It is only stating an axiomatic prin
ciple to say that an essential clement
in the composite dignity of any
deliberative assembly is the fixed
determination to sustain the chair in
enforcing the written rides of the
house as well as the unwritten rules
of common courtesy. And the re
port presentod by seven members of
the committee of thirteen without
having been submitted to their col
leagues was manifestly a breach of
courtesy, to say the least of it. The
ruling .of tho President, too, made
in strict accordance with rule 82,
declared the course taken by the
chairman of the committee to bo
irregular. Yet, in the face of theso
obvious facts, the ruling of the chair
wus reversed by a vote of 18 to 12.
The motion was carried to lay the
report on the table until the report
of tho other six members is pre
sented. However, the 18 members
who stood up for the purpose of
walking over the President, failed to
specify by what rule of procedure
the remaining six members of tho
committee shall be called together
to prepare their report. According
to the precedent adopted by this
vote, it will bo proper hereafter, in
appointing committees to nominate
two Chairmen, one for tho majority
who aro consulted in drawing up a
report, and one for the minoiity
whom the first Chairman sees fit to
Yesterday forenoon, tho gag was
attempted to bo applied on a largo
scale, nnd with the sumo result,
namely, a few minutes business, and
a few hours debate on 'order."
On tho reading of a report from tho
iludielnry Commlttco in the Ha
waiian language, a faction led by
tho honoiablc members, Mcssis,
llayselden, Kaai and Kaulukou,
dclei mined to bull-doze the house
into adopting the report there and
then in the face of protestations
from several Nobles nnd Represen
tatives that the document was not
intelligible to tlii'in. The President
very properly ruled that the motion
to adopt was out of older until the
report was translated. Representa
tive Kaulukou, however, appealed
against the President's ruling. The
gag, this time, however, would not
fit, and the houso decided 20 to 8,
to sustain the chair. In the course
of the debate on this matter, Min
ister Gibson propounded the unique
doctrine that the President was
bound "ouly by written law, and
not by opinion or even common
Tho Advertiser, in an editorial on
the Legislature, this morning,
clinrces that "the chief aim of the
Opposition members yesterday, ap
peared to bo to kill time." Tho
statement is perfectly correct as
regards the Advertiser's political
confreres, who have not only yester
day, but nlso the day before, proved
themselves literally "Opposition
members" to principles of justice
and good order. It is noteworthy
In this connection, thnt the Adver
tiser judiciously suppresses tho re
marks above quoted from His Ex
cellency the Minister of Foreign
Affairs, in the lcport of yestetday's
proceedings published in that paper.
The Adverlisir's fiicnds, to use our
contemporary's words, did "kill
time, at the rate of 883 per hour,"
if that is the cash value of time in
the Legislative Assembly. While
our contemporary, in hot zeal to
defend the discreditable attempts by
adherents of his own party to gag
committee men nnd members oMIic
house, coolly pronounces "the tac
tics" of Messrs. Dole and Thurston
censurable," he does not offer a
shred of evidence in support of the
charge. And while the Advertiser
is so extremely sensitive on
tics," he swallows at one
the reprehensiqlo tactics by which
tho act passed after mature de
liberation, on Tuesday, to al
low Hawaiians equal privilege
with the citizens of ever' civilized
nation on earth to go abroad when
they see lit, was repealed on the
following day, the opponents of the
measure having watched an oppor
tunity when some of its most iutel1'-
gent and inllucntial supporters were
absent, to spring "reconsideration"
on the house. The apologist of
tactics that aie really censurable
and the ruthless censor of men
standing up for their just rights is
not in a position to pronounce upon
the acts of the Representatives of
tho people whether they are credit
able or otherwise. Our contem
porary "trusts that in future the
course of public business will not
be blocked in a similar manner."
We have no such faith in the future.
We can seo no reason to expect that
the disreputable attempts to stifle
legitimate enquiry and to force mem
bers to "go it blind" on reports of
commit tees, nnd other matters will
not be renewed by those members
who have, notably within tho past
fow days, shown a disposition to act
in accordance with the principles
enunciated by His Excellency the
Minister of Foreign Affairs, "not to
decide by opinion or even by com
theory, nnd the silver men are thus
brought face to face with actual
facts, one of which is of more weight
than a thousand theories.
THE HAWAIIAN HANSARD.
No record of the proceedings of
the Hawaiian Legislature has ever
been kept, other than the brief min
utes of tho secretary and the some
what meagre newspaper reports.
The nei'd of n complete rccoid, in
book form, has been much felt by
persons Interested in tho legislative
deliberations of the kingdom. With
the view of supplying this need, so
far ns the present session is con
cerned, this oillec hns commenced
the preparation of a Hawaiian han
sard, which will be published at the
close of tho session. This work will
be mainly a reproduction of our
daily reports, with the slight inaccu
racies that unavoidably creep into
a daily paper corrected. These
reports arc full and linpaitial, taken
in phonetic shoithand by a skilful
nnd experienced reporter. To every
one interested in the public affairs
of tilts country, whatever side of
politics he may be on, this will be a
Ennoit PjUM.ktin : I have read
in your paper this evening the
speech of the Iunaniakaainanas on
tin new bill to allow Hawaiians to
go out of their own country, if they
wish, without getting permission
from the Government, and I would
like to tell you what I think about
it, ami 1 speak as n Hawaiian, the
senuuients of the Hawaiian people.
My mother was Hawaiian before
me, my blood is Hawaiian, I was
born on Hawaiian soil, and 1 have
never been cut of the country. I
have long hoped some day to have
the opportunity of seeing the world
beyond, but I have never liked the
idea that I must first ;et the con
sent of the governor, nnd that he
can prevent me if lie choose. The
old law is a bad law, and it ought
to be abolished. I am astonished
that the ministers should wish to re
tain it. Why should these forcigu
crs come here and try to restrain
our proper liberties? We mark
their speeches, and we shall not for
get them. Most of all, we are sur
prised that our own people in tho
Legislature should be on their side
iu this unfair law. What do Aholo,
Kaulia, Kauhanc, Amaru, aud the
other Hawaiians who voted to post
pone the new bill mean by trying to
keep from us our just rights and
liberties? Aro these men true Ha
waiians? Never, or they could not
have voted as they did. Their
course iu this question is condemned
by every true Hawaiian in tho coun
try. Mr. Drown and Mr. Dole are
our friends, lhcir blooil is foreign,
but they spoke like Hawaiians, in
defence of the rights anil liberties
of Hawaiians. Wo shall remember
them with love and giatitude. I
want, we want this old law
blotted out of the book, because it
is partial. We don't want a China
man, or a Ldewa, or any ono else
to come to this country and enjoy
privi'eges that arc withheld from
the original Inhabitants. I speak
for my people, my blood, my color:
wc are agreed iu this matter: it is
our universal cenliment.
A Nativk Hawaiian.
Honolulu, June 9.
Wr.DNi:sDAY, Juno 9th.
The Assembly was opened at 10
a. m., witli prnyer by Rev. J.
SILVER NOT DESIRED.
There are many owners at present
in New York, said an up-town real
estate broker of prominenco yester
day, unwilling to sell because they
don't want the money. They will
sell for gold, but not otherwise.
They will not take the money of
the country, owing to the continu
ance of silver coinage. They arc
willing to sell real estate at the pre
sent quotations if they can get gold,
but not for money not based on a
gold standard. There are owners
who would rather hold their real
estate If they sell at all they in
sist that the mortgages they accept
shall have a stipulation to bo paid
in gold distinctly expressed. Tho
mania is spreading among those
who are not bound to sell, and
some financial institutions aro al
ready entering upon that policy.
Tho foregoing is n despatch from
New York of May 2-lth, in the San
Francisco JJulletin. It very effectu
ally disposes of tho doctrines put
forth by tho advocates of unlimited
silver coinage both in this country
and in the United States. It has
been strenuously maintained by the
silver men that tho purchasing
power of silver is equal to that of
gold ; but the practical application
of this theory proves it to be only a
amau, Uiinplnin. l'resent: JNoble
Walker, President; Ministers Ki
pena and Neumann ; Nobles Dotni
nis, Kuiheluni, and Martin; Reps.
Keau, Lilikaluni, Raker, Kauhi,
Amara, Kaulia, Kaulukou, Pahia,
Wight, Nalialc, Nahinu, Kekoa, Ka
luu, Aholo, Kaukau, Dickey, Kaai,
Thurston, Kauai, Kaunamano, and
Mr. Pierce, Secretary, read the
minutes of previous meeting, which
wcro repeated by Mr. Wilcox, Inter
preter, and confirmed.
Rep. Kaukau, on suspension of
the rules, presented a petition from
Kaanapall, that Hawaiian teachers
in the English languauc have their
salarios increased to 800 a month.
Referred, to Education Committee.
Rep. Kaulukou presented a re
port of tho Judiciary Commlttco on
the petition against tho election of
J. K. Nalialo for North Kona.
Mr. Wilcox, Interpreter, saitrthat
the icport was not translated, and,
being a lengthy ono, witli tho per
mission of the house, ho would give
the gist of it Tho report gives tho
alleged grounds of complaint, with
the committee's finding in ench
particular, aud the committee como
to tho conclusion that, admitting all
tho claims of petitioner, G. W. Pi
lipo, the sitting member still had a
majority of votes. It was signed by
all members of the Judiciary Com
mittee, except Rep, Palohau who
wns not In tho houso at the time,
viz. : Reps. Kaulukou, Brown, No
blo Martin, and Rep. Kaunamano.
Rep. Castlo moved tho report be
received, translated and laid on tho
Rep. llayselden moved the rcpoit
Rep. Thurston thought this was
rather rushing it. He should pro
bably vote to adopt the report
nftcr It was translated, as after hear
ing thu summing up in Hawaiian ho
thought tho conclusion was coned.
He had no pait in this appeal, the
first lie knew of lis giounds being
this morning. The fact that Hie
mutters in question were serious
should prevent them rushing Hi's
thtough This seemed to bu one of
those mallcis mi which llicic wns u
disposition to slop investigation.
He did not want to vote Mr. Nu
hnlc out of his sent, but at the same
time he did not want to vote with
out knowing what he was voting on.
For tho honor of the member for
North Kona himself this matter
should be properly understood.
Rep. Castle would like to have the
reasons of the lion, member for
Honolulu. It was perfectly easy for
a member to jump up and make a
motion, but he should give some
reasons for it. Ho was satisfied
from hearing the evidence iu this
case that the report of this commit
tee was correct. There was one
question of law raised by himself
before the committee, which he did
not think lie should raise in this
house. On such an important matter
as that set forth in the rcpoit, it was
worth while to have the document
translated, and then in botli lan
guages it would became part of the
records of the Assembly. That was
the course pursued with regaid to
matters in general. Tim hon. mem
ber for Honolulu knew that the seat
of Mr. Jfnhnle was not disturbed by
laying It on the table.
Rep. llayselden said his reasons
were that from hearing the report lie
was satisfied that it was collect, lie
peifectly understood it nnd believed
all the members understood it. It
was full, there was no minority rc
poit, and it would cost a good deal
of money to have that rcpoit tians
laled. Rep. Wight perfectly agreed with
the rematks of the lion, member for"
Molokni, nnd if he, a young man,
was not able to follow the leading of
the report, it was easy to see thai,
the speaker could not uiuleisland it.
The acoustic qualities of that room
were not perfect, and tho member
for Hilo read so rapidly that he was
not able to follow himat any lime.
In conversation he could follow him,
but silting there quietly ho expected
the icpoit would be read in English.
He could not vote intelligently under
Rep. Dickey agreed fully witli the
hon. member for Kohala, but per
haps the trouble could be mended.
He moved that the interpreter be
instructed to translate the repoit to
the house so that they could a'l
Rep. Kaai was in favor of adopt
ing the report of the committee.
Rep. Keau took the lloor, When
The President said that, to save
ftime, ho would rule that the motion
to adopt the repoit was out of ouler
unless it was read in both languages.
The difficulty could be obvial-d by
the Interpreter reading it in English.
Rep. Keau began speaking, when
Rep. Kaulukou rose to a point of
order, that the leport did not rc
quiro to be read iu both languages.
The President said it was per
fectly right that when a member
said he did not understand a report,
then it could not bo said to have
been read. If the house was willing
to say that the interpretation of the
Interpreter was correctly given, that
would be sulllcient.
Rep. Thurston said tho request
for a translation was not for the
purpose of opposing tho report but
for the purpose of information. He
thought it would be a disgrace for
the majority of tho house to refuse
it. ' Suppose the member for Hono
lulu hentd a report read in English
and did not understand it, would it
not be shameful for this houso to re
fuse a request that it be translated.
It was in tho interest of a good
many in the house time this report
should be translated and put in shape
for members to understand it.
Rep. Dole said he came late, after
the discussion hud considerably Ad
vanced, and lie was greatly sur
prised, as it was purely a matter of
courtesy to tho few members who
did not understand Hawaiian. Ho
could not sit there quietly aud listen
to that conversation without protes
ting. They were sitting there before
tho nation, and the nation took them
for gentlemen. Every member knew
that if a report was read in English,
and a single member did not under
stand it, a icnsouable request liko
that would not bo refused. Ho be
lieved it was in place for tho Presi
dent to have this read in both lan
guages before any motion to adopt
it was received.
Noblo Bishop said an hon. mem
ber had said ho understood It nnd
believed every other member would.
Ho did not understandoit, and be
lieved more in that vicinity did not.
lie did not pay much attention, be
causo ho considered ns a matter of
course thnt It would bo translated.
If tho Interpreter had ah opportu
nity to have read it over so that he
could givo them a free translation it
might have suited. But clover as
lie was in translating it was asking
too much of him that ho should
translate it offhand without having
Tho President said unless the
matter was translated he considered
ho would not ho doing his duty if ho
did not rule tho amendment of tho
hon. member for Honolulu out of
Rep. Kaulukou untiled to know u. javw.
on whnt rule of tho house the Presl- i
dent based his decision.
The Picsidcut said he did not
base it on any rule, but'on the piiti
ciples of common sense. He did
not think it would bo leasonnbie for
him to uk the houso to vole on any
matlcr which any member bi Id lie
did not understand. It was an un
usual thing for any question of that
kind to come up, and it was the (i 'st
time lie had ever lienttl It inhed
there, lie had no interest iu the
matter except simply ills duty to the
house and Co himself.
Rep. Kaulukou appealed to the
house against the ruling of the chair,
because the President must be
guided by the rules, and, tf they
had no tiilcs, then by the rules of
Tho President said to the lion,
member that a court of justice
would not sentence n man in u lan
guage ho did not understand unless
it was translated to him.
Rep. Kaulukou said the Inter
preter had given the gist of the
report. He had never raised a point
of order like this before, and was
very sorry to be obliged to do so
lfcp. Thurston did not believe he
ever had, or any other man in any
assembly in tho world ; tills was at
tempt to force a report on members
who could not understand it. In addi
tion to tiio printed rules, theic was a
rule inside every man, based on
common sense, decency and jus
tice. Noblo Bishop said it did not seem
to him that the President was mak
ing a new rule at nil. It had been
tho practice iu this house so many
years, that "reading" was always
meant to be in both languages.
This was only carrying out the pic
cedent. It was only a common
sense interpretation of the rule ic
Minister Gibson said the lion,
member for Liliue had justly ob
served that this was merely a ques
tion of courtesy, that thcio were no
questions of dispute in the matter
whatever. The hon. member for
Moiokai remarked that he was satis
fied the repoit was correct so far as
he had heard it read. There were
remarks from others to the same
effect. It wns a, lengthy report,
and he admitted himc.clf that,
though somewhat familiar witli the
Hawaiian language, he did not fully
understand it. But the interpreter
madcashoit statement, that, after
a review of tho whole question, after
admitting all that was claimed b3'
the opposite party, theic still re
mained a majority in behalf of the
silting member. Tho committee
did not admit the justice or tho
injustice of those courts, therefore
concluded that he was entitled to
his seat. Taking this opinion of
the committee, taking the opinion of
lion, members, taking the gist of
tho matter as presented by the Inter
preter, he was prepared to adopt the
report. It would be a matter of
eouitesy, however, a matter of plac
ing it on the records a matter of
importance to simply receive the
the report at present perhaps it
should be pi luted. As regarded the
immediate matter of dispute, lie was
sorry that it should be b'rought up.
He did not think that u ruling
should be based upon opinion or
even upon common sense.
Rep. Wight said that he consid
ered it his duty to speak. If this
report was adopted it would be a
dangerous precedent. If a repoit
was presented in English and a
native objected, ho could not help
himself after that. If he was
obliged to vote on this occasion ho
would vote blind-folded. He prob
ably had nothing to vote against,
but ho did not like to be led up
blindfolded to the stake. He was a
gieat advocate for economy, and if
economy was to rulo iu every case
ho would sit down, but economy was
not so strictly observed as to pre
vent them spending a dollar or two.
He did not professto be ignorant of
the'natlve laugungc by any means,
but if this passed ho thought it
would bo a good resolution to pas,
that in any other matter it should
bo stated in advance whether it was
to be read in both languages or not.
Rep. Dickey did not think it was
right to tell members of this Assem
bly to vote blindfolded. Ho under-
.i. ic. "Wixdish
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Commencing Monday, Juno 14th, at tho
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Having just reroived a supply of Now Good", consisting of Fomo of tho Leading
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MRS. J, LYONS, Proprietor.
stood the Minister of Foreign Affairs
to sity that the President could not
make n ruling based pn common
sense, lie toot; issue wmi tne Min
ister on that point. The presidents
In deliberative assemblies of nil
nations based rulings on common
sense. They had not a rule requir
ing that the speeches of members
must bo interpreted. If thnt was
so, then tho Interpreter could sit
down nnd rend the nowspnpers.
Minister Gibson asked in reply
what wcro tho duties of tho Ser-gennt-nt-Arms.
Ho was to keep
order, nccordlng to the rules, nnd
that involved various duties not
necessary to be spccitlcd.
Hep. Thurston said it seemed to
li tin that the closing remniks of Ills
Excellency deserved n little com
ment, that the President, when
there were no rules, must not rulo
according to the principles of jus
tice, reason or common sense.
Minister Gibson 1 bay that ho
must be guided by tho written law.
A departure from this had caused
revolutions in some countries.
Rep. Thurston said tho correla
tive of that was that when the Pre
sident had no rule ho must baso his
ruling on injustice, prejudice nnd
(Continued onyagt 8.)
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F, Horn's Steam-Made Creams,
Fruit, Claret, Madeira, Melon, Mlllo Fruit, ,
Olinmp'igno, Maiachino, Nuova and any other Water loss det I red.
Proprietor Pioneer Steam Candy Factory and Practical
Confectioner, 44 2r