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WEDNESDAY, JULY 7, 188G.
FIFTT-FOOnTII DAY. CONTINUE!!.
Mo:njAY, July Cth.
Rep. Wight begged leave to resign
'his position on the Committee of
Finance. His reason was that he
considered the action of the house
on Saturday to have been uncourte
0113 and unjust to the minoiity of
the committeo for doing what they
considered to have "been their duty.
The other members of tho commit
tee acknowledged the correctness of
the minority's report, but did not
sign it becauso they did not consider
the committeo should rcpoit piece
meal, and perhaps also because it
was regarded as an animadversion
on one of the members of the Cabi
net. The minority ouglit not to be
altogether guided by the majority in
what they considered to be their line
of duty. They had not asked for
immediate action to be taken on tho
report, but they consider tho action
of the Government so utterly un
constitutional that it behooved thorn
to bring it to the attention of tfce
house at the earliest oppoitunity.
The action of this committee had
been very much delayed, owing to
some of its mciubcis being on the
committee to enquire into fcome mat
ters on Lanai. The two members
who signed that report had each
day been there engaged in the duties
of tho committee, and he considered
it was the duty of the other mem-,
bers to attend to the duties of the
Finance Committee in picfcrcnce to
any other committee. It was fnr
more important to this house than to
enquire into piivale difficulties or
petitions coming fiompiivalc indivi
duals. The reports of this commit
tee ought to have been before the
house long before that, and would
have been had the other members
been as regular in attendance as the
minority. The Finance Committee
was the most important committee
of the house. It was a committee
that required to make a thorough
and exhaustive investigation of the
finances for two years, covering
transactions of three m'llion dollars.
He was extremely sony when he
heard his name mentioned on that
committee, when ho considered the
rapidity with which that committee
had to send its woik in. Ho did not
profess to be possessed of any false
modesty in saying this. Ho would
compare the action of the house on
this last occasion with what occurred
some ten days antecedent to that.
A majority report was brought into
the house on the taxation bill. The
majority report was never once re
ferred to the minoiity of the com
mittee. A law was also framed
which was not submitted to that
minority. Did the house .instruct
that the repoit should be returned?
No ; they lequired that the minority
report should be in the next day,
and that the majoiity icport should
be laid on the table in the meantime.
Why was this minority icport not
treated with the same consideration
as that other report? In answer to
the interruption of a point of order
by Eep. Kaulukou, he said he was
speaking on a question of privilege.
They did not treat the majority of
the committee the same as the mino
rity. He repeated the statement of
the case he made at the beginning,
and said further that some of the
members and some out of the house
had made observations that the
minority wanted to make political
capital out of this. Did they take
them for a pair of fools, that they
should try to make political capital
out of this against a new Cabinet?
They had better put the fool's cap
on their own heads. It was true tho
Premier was a member of the prc-
vious Cabinet, but in a different
position. Did the minority suppose
that he was to be held responsible
for every transaction of his former
colleagues? There was no thought
of that in his mind, nor did he be
lieve in the mind of the member for
Makawao, but they considered it
their duty to bring the matter to tho
notic of this house, which they
should not have done had they list
ened to the voice of the majority.
He did not believe in submitting to
discourtesy or reprimand when ho
was acting in what he considered to
be tho line of his duty. Therefore
he hoped they would agree to the
request he had made.
Rep. Aholo moved that the re
quest be not granted. The bulk of
the committee's work was done.
The lion, member had been very
punctual, always there at tho hour
of meeting. He was very sorry that
the hon. member had asked them to
excuse him. Perhaps it was a mis
take to move that the report should
bo returned. It was his notion, but
he did not intend to hurt the mem
ber's feelings. Tho only idea he
had was that the report should bo
withdrawn and embraced in their
Minister Gibson supported the
motion not to accept the resignation.
It would be a pity to lose the ser
vices of the hon. member. He had
not taken the report as specially
referring to himself. As ho said on
that day ho thought it was a very
proper report to make.
Rep. Brown moved that tho resig
nation of the hon. member for Ko
hala from the Finance Committeo be
accepted. He was not surprised
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that U10 Minister exported tho mo
tion of Hie lion, member for Lalia
iwi, after spo king on Saturday in
favor of tho niolion to lay tho report
on tho table and then voting directly
against it. After such an exhibition
he thought it was only proper that
tho hon. member's resignation bo
Hep. Kalua was in favor of grant
ing the request of the lion, member,
who ought to be excused from serv
ing on that committee. When the
motion to return the report was
mado the speaker did not under
stand that its idea was to censure
the minority, but that tho majority
were not in favor of bringing in the
icport a little at a time. The Min
ister of tho Interior in a loud voice
and with violent gestures like a hula
man, supported the motion to lay the
rcpoit on the table, then voted
against it. Tho Ministers should
not play with tho house in that way.
They wanted, if a man spoke one
wayho should vote the same way.
They did not want a man there witli
two tongues. lie made a motion,
spoke in favor of it, and voted the
same way. The Minister of the In
tel ior seconded his motion, spoke in
favor of it, and voted against it.
This lcminded him of a lish of tho
squid family, that ran first one way
and then another, so that it could
not be known where his head was.
In reply to a point of order raised
by Hep. Kaulukou, he said the
former Attorney-General used to
speak of anyone opposing him as
raising an umbrella, and lie thought
the hon. member for Ililo constituted
himself the umbrella-holder for the
Ministry. "When a member like the
hon. member for Kohahi, advanced
in years, came before them he ought
to be treated in a respectful man
ner. Although not an oldmcmbcr
of this Assembly, the hon. member
was known all over this Kingdom as
a man of good lcputation. The
District of Kohahi had elected him
and sent him there, and he did not
think any resident of the district
would say any blot attached to him.
Rep. Kaunamauo opposed the ac
ceptance of the lcsiguatioii.
Minister Dare said he was a great
stickler for the forms of courtesy
from tho house to members, and
from one member to another. lie
voted for the motion to receive the
report and lay it on the table. It
transpired in debate that the report
was Incomplete and had not been
concurred in D3' the committee.
There was no discourtesy intended.
Notwithstanding the apparent incon
sistency of the Minister of Interior,
he believed the voice of the Ministry
was unanimous in favor of the with
drawal of that resignation.
Eep. Palohau was in favor of ex
cusing this member. He had been
working very hard and could not get
the other members to attend to their
duties. He had good reason for
wanting to be excused. The mem
ber was not like a horse that
they must whip up when he
ilagged or became discouraged.
The speaker voted in favor of lay
ing the report on the table because
it was a very important matter, and
the other members of committee said
it was true. He thought the treat
ment of the hon. member justified
him in asking to be excused. The
gentleman was advanced in years ;
he was mature, and did not say one
thing and mean another. There
fore, having asked to bo excused he
would not work longer on the com
mittee. Hep. "Wight thanked the house for
its good opinions regarding him, but
Mattered as he might be he did not
feel inclined to withdraw his resigna
tion, for the reasons that he had
Noble Bishop regretted that any
thing had occurred to influence the
hon. member for Kohala to resign
his position. When he made the
request the speaker took it that he
meant just what he said, and, as he
said that ho had no intention of
withdrawing it, he should vote to
excuse him. He believed that the
hon., member had been working at a
great disadvantage from the very
first. The other day, when the re
port was brought in, the reabon for
reporting on a detached matter was
fully explained. Everybody knew
what it meant. There was nothing
to prevent it being laid on the table
and published if people wanted it.
It was not acted on in a hurry.
Members had abundant opportunity
for discussing it. After all the ex
planation the hon. member feels
that he ought to be excused. There
fore the speaker should vote in favor
of excusing him.
The amendment, that the hon.
member should not be excused, was
put and lost. Then tho motion that
his resignation be accepted was car
ried. Noble Bishop presented tho fol
lowing report from the Committee
Hon. J. S. Wai.ki:u, President of
the Legislative Assembly Sin : Tho
Committee on Education, to whom
was referred an Act to amend sec.
.'), of chap. 4-i, Session Laws of
1884, intended to release from pay
ment of tuition all over two instead
of thrco pupils sent to schools taught
in the English Iangunge by any one
person or guardian, introduced by
lion. A. Knulia, and also thieo peti
tions, praying that such schools may
bo mado entirely free, presented by
Hon. J. K. Kaunamano and Hon.
12. Kekoa respectively, report as
follows: Tho amount appropriated
for schools, compared with the whole
revenue of the country, is much
larger in proportion than in any
other country that we know of, and
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tho school tax (a large part of which
is paid by a class which receives
almost no direct advantage from it)
is now a large sum. The schools
in question were established nt the
earnest request of the people, with
tho understanding that their in
creased cost over those taught in
tho native language would bo borne
in part by the patrons thereof. The
cost of such schools, for teachers
and also for school houses, is much
higher than it is in the United States
or in England ; and they are kept
open during a larger part of the
year than they are outside of the
cities and larger towns of either of
the countries named. Under tho
present law all over thrco pupils in
any family, however large, may go
free, and the Board of Education
has power to remit tuition in favor
of any who are too poor to pay, so
that none can be excluded from the
advantages of schooling on account
of inability to pay. In former times,
when the Hawaiians weic poor and
did not so fully appreciate good
schools as they do now, they were
aided largely by contributions from
other countries, but now they should
rely upon their own resources. A
thing of such great value as the
privilege of a good school for our
children is worth paying for, and
whou it is furnished at so much less
than its cost, as is the case here,
those who can pay should bo re
quired to do so. A manly and self
reliant spirit should be inculcated
111 the young people and fostered
in those of liper years. The habit
of expecting and receiving things of
value without making a fair return
either in money or labor tends to
pauperization and a mean spirit
which should be constantly guarded
against. The amount collected for
tuition during the last two years was
about 820,000, a sum which cannot
be surrendeied conveniently at the
present lime, for it will be wanted
in providing new schools in several
districts now calling for them. To
do away with the charge would re
lieve a largo number who are able
and willing to pay, and would not
help the cause of education at all.
In view of the facts and reasons
above stated, wc cannot favor the
passage of the Act submitted to us,
and therefore recommend to the As
sembly to lay it and the petition
upon the table. Respectfully sub
mitted. Chas. R. Bisuor,
L. A. Thurston,
S. W. Kaai,
Having brought in the Act above
referred to, out of regard for the
wishes of some of the people of
Koolaupoko, I cannot concur en
tirely in the foregoing report.
Rep. Dickey moved to lay the re
port on the table. He believed that
if it was left to the people they
would vote for the abolition of tui
tion fees in the primary schools.
Where children were compelled to
attend school, the schools should be
Rep. Thurston spoke of a candi
date for Parliament in Ireland who
said he would abolish taxes. The
people of this country would doubt
less vote to abolish the school or
any other tax, but it tended to
demoralize people when they were
given valuable services for nothing.
There were membeis who honestly
believed that school fees should be
taken off ; therefore he favored lay
ing the report on the table.
TUTbRNS TO RESOLUTION.
Minister Gibson, in auswer to a
resolution of the house, said the
Ministers were all prepared with re
turns of the indebtedness of their
respective departments. The others
had theirs complete, but he was
sorry to say his own was not so. But
he had thre the reports of some
bureaus of the Interior Department,
and hoped to have the rest completed
not later than Saturday next. So
far as the return went, it showed an
indebtedness by the Department of
$10,848 up to the end of June.
Rep. Thurston moved that the
return be accepted, printed and laid
on the table, and that further lime
be given for supplementary state
Minister Creighton presented a
return of the indebtedness of the
Depai tment of Foreign Affairs, com
prising debts dating back to Dec.
21, 1GS2, the amount being $12,
353.09. Rep. Thurston moved for n similar
disposition of this return to that of
the previous one, which carried.
Minister Kanoa presented a return
of the indebtedness of the Depart
ment of Finance, which amounted
Rep. Thurston repeated his motion
with respect to this return, which
Minister Dare presented a return
of the indebtedness of tho Attorney
General's Department, which was
S'JOG.05 in the head office, and
8577.45 in the Marshal's office a
total of 81,483.50 to the end of
March, and 8539.23 belonging to
the current period.
Rep. Thurston made the same
motion in this case as in the others,
Tho house at 12 :10 adjourned for
recess till 1 :30.
Rep. Dickey gave notice of an
amendment to art. 20 of the Consti
tution. Ho also gavo notice of a
question to be propounded to the
Minister of Finance to-morrow, viz. :
Have you caused to be paid to the
Japanese Inspector 8250 since' you
took your seat in tho Cabinet, and
if eo by what authority?
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Rep. Kaulukou moved n resolution
that 140 copies of the first volumo
of Hawaiian Reports (in native),
discovered in the Health ofllco, bo
placed in the Interior Department
whero they belong.
Minister Gib'son told how the
volumes had been discovered, and
suggested that tho resolution should
order them to be bound.
Rep. Brown did not think the
Legislature should be saddled with the
expense of binding the volumes, but
thought they should bo turned into
the Interior Department where they
could' be sold. Tho first volume of
Reports was out of print, and this
was the first time he had heard it
Tho resolution carried.
Rep. Kaai presented a resolution
that from and after to-day the house
meet three evenings each week
Monday, Wednesday and Friday
until the end of the session. Ho
said they had now a large number
of bills aud were making very little
progress in disposing of them. A
great man' of them were important
requiring to bo considered carefully
and not slighted. They had been
the;c a long time already and by
and by, when Borne bills of merit
came up, members would vote to in
definitely postpone them simply be
cause they were in a hurry. Much
time had alreadj been wasted, fre
quently a little resolution occupying
a whole day, as every member
thought he should speak on it.
Another reason was Hint .some mem
bers of the Assembly had been ap
pointed assessors of taxes aud ought
to be engaged in their duties as such
now. If they wanted to get through
they must do more work.
Minister Dare moved an amend
ment that the time allowed each
member for speeches on resolutions
be limited to five minutes.
Rep. Thurston supposed he would
be called obstructive, but he did not
think thut after working hard there
all day till 5 o'clock they would be
fit for more of it in the evening.
They would get so tired in a few
days with night sessions that they
would not accomplish as much as
before. By 8 o'clock there would
be some very sleepy members.
When he got through there in the
afternoon he was about as tired as
he wanted to be, and went home and
to bed at 8 o'clock. A number of
members had told him they went to
bed as early as they could. The
workman was worthy of his hire,
and he did not believe in driving a
willing horse to death. They worked
there six da3's in the week and the'
ought to have the nights to them
selves. Rep. Dickey believed the amend
ment should be treated as a separate
motion, as it referred to a different
Minister Dare accordingly with
drew his amendment, saying he
would present it as a separate reso
lution. Rep. Kaunamano moved the con
sideration of the resolution be indef
initely postponed. No doubt the
hon. member for Hana meant well
enough, but many members com
menced their duties on committees
as early as eight in the morning.
He agreed with the hon. member for
Molokai. It was written that the
night was made for the devil and his
imps. In another place it was writ
ten, "Watchman.what of the night?"
It was not only watchmen that kept
awake all night. If they had night
sessions they would have to have
watchmen to keep the members
awake. Some of them (mentioning
himself and others) were old men
who got through their work there
and went to bed early. If they
were going to do this extra work
their bodies would suffer, they
would be worn out and become im
paired in health.
Tho resolution was voted down.
Rep. Kaulukou gave notice of an
act to provide for the establishment
of a naval -and military academy.
He also moved a resolution that the
Appropriation Bill be made the
order of the day for each day.
Rep. Thurston thought it was
something altogether out of prece
dent to give tho Appropiiation Bill
preference to all other business.
The President ruled that, unless
the resolution said "in the house," it
would not be in order.
Minister Dure regarded it as sim
ply that the Appiopriation Bill be
placed at the head of the list for
consideration in committee of the
Rep. Kaai moved an amendment
that the Appropriation Bill be con
sidered each day in committee of
Both the amendment and the
main motion were rejected.
' Rep. Kaai presented a resolution
that from this day each member be
' only allowed to speak five "minutes on
any one subject.
Minister Dare moved an amend
ment, which Rep. Kaai accepted,
that hereafter, till the close of this
session, members shall ho allowed
each five minutes only for the
delivery of speeches, and upon the
call of time the member speaking
shall take -his scat, unless by the
consent of tho Assembly his time bo
Rep, Kaulukou gave notico of an
act to authorize the' Minister of In
terior to pay Mrs. Swan 85,000, for
her undivided interest in certain
premises in the city of Honolulu.
Rep, Kalua gave notice of an act
to relieve Chas. B. WiUon, Super
intendent of tho Honolulu Water
works. Rep, Hayselden, on suspension of
tho rules, read a first timo by title
an act clven notice of bv the ex-
Attorney-General, to prevent colli
sions nt sea, and, on his motion, it
was ordered to bo printed.
ORDER OP THE DAT.
Third reading of the street ob
Rep. Richardson, on tho bill being
read, moved it pass.
Rep. Wight moved to have sec.
25 restored as in the original bill, so
that no one should bo allowed to
play quoits or ball in the streets.
Ho spoke of the mischievous pro
clivities of boys, expressing his ap
prehension that, if allowed to in
dulge in games on the street, they
would wantonly frighten horses.
Rep. Thurston said this point was
fully discussed and settled on sec
ond reading, and the section should
now pass as in the bill.
Minister Dare saw a conflict of
authority between the Road Super
visor and the Haibor Master in the
bill, and many similar anomalies.
Rep. Thurston contended that
there was no conflict of authority.
After some discussion the bill was
referred back to select committee.
Second reading of an act to regu
late proceedings in bankruptcy (in
troduced by Rep. Brown).
Rep: Kaai moved tho first section
be indefinitely postponed, on the
ground that tho provision for de
claring a debtor owing an aggregate
of 8250 a bankrupt would make
native Hawaiian storekeepers liable
to be ruined by conspiracy of petty
Rep. Brown defended the hill,
saying it was designed for one thing
to prevent abuses on the part of
Chinamen, and urging the necessity
for a new bankruptcy law.
The several sections passed wiih
considerable discussion and slight
Minister Dare moved to strike out
the enacting clause of the bill, but
was informed that he was out of
order, as the title and not the en
acting clause was before the house.
He characterized the bill as ill-conceived
and bad, in proof of which
he instanced a motion made by the
introducer to add a new section.
Rep. Brown denied that the mo
tion proved any such thing, as the
proposed amendment was offered on
the suggestion of a judge of the
Supreme Court. He spoke of the
necessity of a new law, and chal
lenged the Attorney-General to pro
duce a better bill. It made no dif
ference to him whether the bill'passcd
(or not, but if this one was killed the
country would have to do without an
efficient bankruptcy law another two
Minister Dare said the bill was
harsh, cruel and unchristian-like. It
gave power to wealthy men to crush
the poor. Men of wealth were able
to protect themselves.
Rep. Kauhane considered the law
was intended to reach fraudulent
persons, and was not apprehensive
that it would be used as an instru
ment of oppression.
A motion to pass the title as
amended was lost.
Noble Cleghorn, after a good
deal of discussion on the best course
to take on account of the rejection
of the amended title, moved the bill
berefened to a select committee,
Noble Dominis, Chairman of the
Enrollment Committee, reported
that His Majesty had been pleased
to approve the bill to confer juris
diction on Police and District Jus
tices of thc'District of Kona, Oahu,
with respect to the fire limits act.
Noble Cleghorn, at a few minutes
to five, moved adjournment till 10
o'clock to-morrow, which carried.
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