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4 1st Day July
17tb.
Monxixo session.
Tho House opened tit 10
n. in.
President W.
Roll culled
Tt. Casllo in tho chair.
mid absentees noted.
nr.roias of committees,
Noblo Jnegcr lcported from the
Committee on Public Lands on sev
eral petitions rofencd"to it, recom
mending that they be lnid on the
tabic to bo considered with the Ap
propriation Hill. Adopted.
Also from the same committee on
several other petitions from various
parts of tiie kingdom, in which they
state that they can only give a cur
sory report, 'as they wero not able
ot visit all these localities and judge
for themselves. Therefore they re
commend that all of them be laid on
the table to be considered with tho
Appropriation Bill, albo in regard
to the petition to abolish the Road
Boards on tho island of Oaliu, that
they think the system lias not as
yet been thoroughly tested, and
therefore recommend that it be laid
on the table. Adopted.
Rep. F. Brown reported from the
Printing Committee that two bills
were printed and ready for distribu
tion. Noble Baldwin reported from the
Finance Committee on the bill re
lating to the circulation of commer
cial paper as currency, recommend
ing that with a few amendments,
the bill pass. The report was ac
cepted and ordered translated and
printed.
Noble Robinson reported from
the Committee on Commerce on the
petition from one Miller of New
York, for a rebate of duties on li
quor. The committee think that if
this Legislature allowed a rebate on
this liquor, it would be establishing
a ruinous precedent for this country,
but they think that the charges for
storcage are exorbitant and should
be changed. They therefore recom
mend that this petition be laid on
the table to be considered with the
bill to lcgulate storage charges in
the Custom House, noticed by the
honorable Frank Brown. Adopted.
Rep. C. Blown leported from the
Judiciary Committee on the petition
from J. W. Kawai, that $G00 be
paid him for land taken by the gov
ernment for water, in Makiki, stat
ing that as no claim lias been made
on the Minister of the Interior for
such land, they recommend that the
petition be laid on the table.
Adopted.
Also from the same committee on
the bill to amend the law lelatingto
commissioners of boundaries, re
commending that the bill pass.
Laid on the table to be consideied
with the billl.
Noble Townscnd reported from
the Committee on Education on the
petition for an English school at
Makena, Maui. They find that
there is an English school there now,
and therefore recommend that the
petition be laid on the table.
Adopted.
Noble Widcmann under suspen
sion of the rules read a petition for
a refund of taxes paid twice. Re
ferred to the Judiciary Committee.
He also reported from the Com
mittee on Double Taxation on
several petition submitted to it,
that a sum sullicient to refund these
amounts be put in the Appropria
tion Bill. It reccommends that
the petitions from W. E. Rowell and
Mr. Robertson be laid on the table.
Rep. C. Brown was in favor of
, adopting the report with the excep
tion of the amount to Allen & Ro
binson. Ho contended that they
should have action against the
bankers, and not against the Govern
ment, lie said the object of
the law although not so expressed,
was that the bankers should furnish
to the tax assessors a list of depo
sitors with the amount to their
credit, so that the assessors might
compare this list with the returns
made by the parties assessed, lie
said that this money was charged to
the account of the depositors by the
bankers and that they should go to
the bankers for redress. He there
fore moved to make this report on
these petitions the special order of
tho day to-day when it can bo
argued.
Noble AVidemann moved to amend
by leaving tho claims of Allen &
Robinson and Mr. Goldberg, until
the committee repoit on the petition
of II. A. Widcmann as they all in
volve the same principle. Carried.
HES0LUTI0N3 AND 11IM.S.
Noble Smith gave notice of two
bills, the first relating to seduction
and the other to grant permission to
the trustees of the Lunalilo estate
to transfer certain property.
Noble Foster said that tho com
mittee to whom M'as referred the
Anti-Asiatic petition, found many
dilliculties in the way of investigat
ing this matter, and therefore intro
duce a resolution, to the effect that
the Supreme Court bo requested to
give their opinion as regards "the
constitutionality of certain rcstiio
tive measures now before the Legis
lature. Rep. Kauhi thought that this was
getting out an umbiella before the
shower. Ho believed in passing tho
laws, and then if they conllicted
with tho constitution tho Supreme
Court could annul them.
Rep. 0. Biown said that tho con
stitution provides that the Legisla
ture can ask the opinion of the Su
premo Court? on nil important ques
tions of law and they shall be ob
liged to answer. Now who is going
to decide whether this is an import
ant question .of law. The i evolu
tion should state that in tho opinion
this House this is an important
jfttfMi!ja!wiHWp
question of law and then de
mand an opinion.
Rep. Kauhi said that this com
mittee had tried to crack this nut,
and found it loo hard. They should
then have so reported to tho House,
and the House could then, if they
thought fair, ask tho opinion of the
Supremo Court. Tho resolution was
adopted.
Noble Smith offered a resolution
that the Minister of Finance present
to this House a wrilton statement of
the amount of taxes collected for
the year 1887, and the amount paid
tax assessors and collectors for the
same peiiud. Adopted.
Noble Watcrhouse moved to re
consider tho vole of yesterday on
the item of S194 for 15. C. Fish
bourne. Carried, and the item was
again referred to the committee.
Rep. Rice gave notice of a bill
compelling native Ilawaiiaus attend
ing English schools, to be taught to
read in Hawaiian.
Recess until 1 p. tn.
AFTEUNO0N session.
The House rc-asscmbled at 1:30
p. m. and resumed tho order of busi
ness diopped at recess, viz:
ItESOLUTIONS AND BILLS.
Rep. Paehaolc rc.id a Ilrst time a
bill to regulate the practice of law
in flic district Courts. Referred to
Printing Committee.
SPECIAL OltDF.K OF TIIE DAY.
The consideration of the answer
of the Minister of Finance to the
questions of the Hon. Noblo Wide
inn nn.
Rep. C. Brown moved to defer the
discussion of this matter until after
the report from the Judiciary Com
mittee on similar subjects leferred
to them this morning.
Minister of Finance staled that
the law was explicit on this matter,
lie quoted the law.
Noble Smith said that as a mem
ber of the Judiciary Committee, lie
should prefer that the Ministers
would make a statement of what
they consider the law in this mat
ter, before the committee, prior to
its being made to the House.
Noble Widcmann said that he
had something to say in regard to
this answer. "But the motion to
defer action was carried.
ohdi:h of tiii: day.
Second reading of bill relating to
pounds and estrays.
On motion the bill was considered
section by section.
The first 11 section passed with
amendments. Section 12 relating
to hogs was under coniidmatiou
when the House adjourned until 10
a. in. Wednesday.
42nd Day July 18.
MOIININO SESSION.
The House opened at 10 a. m.
President W. II. Castle in the Chair.
Roll called and absentees noted.
IIEI'OUT OF COMMITTEES.
Noble Smith read a lirsttirae.v
bill to authorise the Minister of In
terior to convey a certain piece of
land to the trutees of the Luniiliro
estate. Referred to Printing Com
mittee. Rep. Paehaolc read a iirst time a
bill to provide a permanent settle
ment for D. Nakaleka, of $200 per
annum. On motion of Noble
Wctei house, the bill was rejected.
Noble Foster offered a resolution
to the effect that no notice of bills
be allowed after August 1st, 1888,
except those that bhall emanate
from the Ministry. Carried.
ORDKIl OF THE DAY.
The House went into committee
of the whole, Rep. Kalaukoa in the
Chair, for fuither consideration of
the Appropriation Bill.
The ilrst thing considered was the
item of S194 for E. C. Fishbourn.
Noble Waterhouse moved to have
the report of the Finance Committee
on this item read again. Passed.
The report was then read
Noble Waierliousc asked tho Mi
nistry if they tliiuk this a just
claim. This man brought in a re
poit that was adverse to the admin
istration then in power, consequent
ly it has been destroyed. The man
has done the work and should be
paid.
Minister Green said that as far
as he could lind out it was a just
claim. There is no doubt but that
the work was done, and the claim
slioukl be paid. Tho report render
ed by Mr. Fishbourn cannot bo
found, but it was made. Mr. Green
said that ho had advised Mr. Fish
bourn to present his claim in this
way, and then it could be acted
upon.
Rep. C. Brown said ho wanted to
impress upon tho House the fact
that a similar claim from John F.
Bowler for worl: done uuder the
old administration, was brfore them,
and if they allow one, they should
allow another. He therefore moved
that when the Committee rise
they lcpoit action on this item
deferred until tho report of the Ju
diciary Committee is had upon the
Bonier claim.
Minister Green said ho could not
concede the position taken by the
honorable Representative Brown,
that if one claim is paid, all must be.
Each claim must stand on its own
ineiils.
Noble Casllo said that there had
been a claim before this House from
Z. K. Meyers for work done while
clerk of the Wator Works, and it
was rejected. Ho should 6iippoit
the motion to defer action on this
item until the report from this Com
mittee on several claims shall have
been presented to the House.
Noble Dole moved to indelluitcly
postpone action. Lost.
.DATTV BTJTJiTK WBflKMT 8UMMAT1Y i BOHOMJMJi II, X JUMf fit, 1AM.
Rep. Brown'B motion carried.
Thu following items wore then
passed :
WA'rr.it M'ontvS.
Lnitpahochoo water works.. $ 1,000
Hilo wntcr woiks 13,000
Rep. Kinney moved to insert
5,000 for the survey of Hamakua
ditcii, etc.
Noble Baldwin said that $3,000
as reported by the Committee was
an ample sum for the woik that is
to be done. If suivoyors nie going
there to suck Government pap, then
$5,000 will he hardly siilllcieiit.
Noble Wight said he was in favor
of making the item $5,000 and ex
tend the investigation to Koliala
and sec if water could be taken there
also. The appropriating of $5,000
does not necessarily involve tho ex
penditure of said amount. He said
that he should strongly urge a thor
ough investigation of this water
supply and the feasibility of carry
ing the water both ways.
Noble Smith moved to amend by
using tin- words 'ifor a survey and
investigation of a water supply for
Hamakua, $5,000." He said he
dul not like the word "ctcctra." It
might imply a great, deal. He
amended his pmendment by insert
ing the word "Kohaln." He said
the member for Hamakua is about
to get up. If he wishes to confine
this survey to Hamakua, ho is like
that animal wo wcic discussing when
the House adjourned yesterday.
Rep. Kinney spoke in favor of
spending the money for Hamakua
only.
Noble Young said that the Hama
kua people had made a business
proposition to this House. Although
lie was in favor of bringing water to
all dry places, he should favor the
expenditure of this money in Ha
makua only, and if the Government
have sullicient money then another
appropriation may be made for Ko
liala. Noble Hitchcock said the amount
aked, $5,000, was not suillcient for
both these surveys. It could not
be done. As there is at least C or
7 miles of bush to level through be
iore one can get anywhere near the
water in Koliala. Therefore he
should suppoit the motion of Rep.
Kinney.
Noble Wight said that something
had been said about the people of Ha
makua paying for the water, and no
proposition had been made by the
people of Koh.ila. He said that he
was to blame for that, for after the
last session, be had stated in Koliala
that the Government would prob
ably make a survey of this water
supply, lie had no doubt but that
ihc Koliala people would gladly pay
G per cent to the Government or as
much as the people of Hamakua.
Rep. Paehaolc moved to make the
item $4,500. Lost.
Rep. Kinney's motion was carried.
The committee rose and asked
leave to sit again at 1 p. in.
AFTEItNOON SESSION.
The House re-assembled at 1:15
p.m., and went into committee of the
whole, Ri-p. Kalaukoa in the chair,
to resume consideration of the Ap
propriation Bill.
Rep. Rice moved to inseit $8,000
for Water Woiks, Koloa, Kauai,
and that it be referred to a select
committee. Carried.
Noble Richardson moved to insert
$10,000 for Wailuku Water Works.
This item was also leferred to the
same select committee.
Noble Wight moved to insert 83,
000 for a survey of the headwaters
of Koliala, and to ascertain the feas
ibility of bringing the water into Ko
liala distiict. Carried.
The following items wcie passed:
For storage icborvoiis, and
water priviligos in Nmianu
Valley $81,300
Water Works, Makikiki .... 5,000
KOADS AND IlltlDOES.
Road from Hilo to Volcano. .$30,000
Noblo Baldwin moved to inseit
15,000 for a road between Wai
luku and Lahaina. He said that
this was no new item. It had been
repeatedly before the Legislature,
but nothing had come of it. It was
a notorious fact that the average
life of people living in Lahaina and
Wailuku was at least 5 years less
than that or any oilier district, on
account of having to cross this mis
crable road. As the House was in
a good humor for passing road items
lie had no doubt this item would
pass.
Minister Thurston said that lie
should biippoit that motion, as he
believed that all the money ava'la
blc should be spent on the roads.
And the sum of $18,000 for the
Puli toad, he thought could be more
prolltably spent on the country
roads. He should more to strike
out this item when they came to it.
Noble Balwin's motion was carried,
Noble Makeo moved to insert S5,
000 for the extension of Queen
street, as recommended bj-tho Com
mitteo of Public Lauds.
Noble Towiibond said lie should
like to see these items consolidated.
He did not know whether Honolulu
was getting its share of the money
or not, but as ho reckoned it, 2uu,
000 were on the Appropriation Bill,
lor the island ot Oaliu mid Hawaii,
seven-eights as large as Oaliu, only
$55,000. He would like to see
these amounts all together, and then
a comparison could be drawn. Tho
motion of Noblo Makeo was carried.
Rep, MtGuiro moved to insert
$500 for a bridge over Kcawewai
stream in Koliala. Can led.
He aho moved to iiiburt S1200 for
road repai s between Koliala and
Waiuiea, Hawaii. Carried.
Itop. Kamauoha moved to insert
8600 for it load from Smith's bridge
mauka. Withdrawn.
ir-eaSS!
The item of
$8000 for a road to
the top of Punchbowl was discussed
at lcmrth. Nible Smith moved to
refer it bock to tho Finance Com
mittee. Noblo Baldwin was in favor of
making it a toll road, but thought
the item hould bo" referred to a
Select Committee, and then tho Min
ister of tho Interior could cart them
up there on a picnic, and get on the
right side of them. lie should move
that the road should not bo built
until after the road from Wailuku
is made.
Minister Thurston said to show
the House that he was in dead earn
est in tins matter', ho was in favor
of referring this to a Committee,
and further, he would furnish every
member of this House with a horse,
and would accompany them to tho
top of the hill on next Saturday nf
teinooon, so that they could see for
themselves the beauty of the scene
a3 witnessed from that place. Re
ferred to a Committee.
Noble Wight moved to insert 83,
000 for a road from Honokane to
Waipio, Hawaii. Carried
Rep. McGuiro moved
$800 for a bridjrc over
to insert
Waiakca
stream, Hawaii.
Noble Hitchcock said he could
begin to see a "nigger on the wood
pile" in piling up all these appro
priations for bridges and roads.
He thought some one had been
round and started the niembeis to
propose these items, in order that
the Governors might have some
thing to do. It seems absurd to ap
propriate money Jor a bridge over a
stream that is dry 3G4 days in the
year.
Rep. McGuire said he was born
in the district and had never seen
the stream dry yet, but on tho con
trary it was often impassable. Tho
item passed.
Rep. Paehaole moved to insert
$1000 for a bridge over the Halawa
stream, Moiokai. Carried.
Rep. Nawahinc moved to insert
$2,500 for two bridges at Waibee,
Maui.
Minister Thurston said that this
district has $28,000 to its credit for
roads and bridges and lie thought
that no more should be appropriat
ed. If the House is going on this
way, they will soon swell the, appro
priation bill a million dollars, and it
is evident that all these projects
cannot be carried out, and then the
Ministry will get the credit of not
doing their duty, and the people in
the country, will uriie it upon their
Representative to kick them out.
The motion was lost.
Kaineliamolia IV ro.id $1,000
Kalihi road. , 2,000
l'auoa road 1,500
The item for $5,000 for a road
from Kapiolani Park to Katnoiliiii
was next taken up.
Noble Townscnd said he was sn
tislied that there was considerable
log-rolling about these appropria
tions. He could not sec why these
items wcic not placed in a lump
sum, unless it was to tickle some
voters, and conciliate others. The
item passed as in the bill.
Rep. F. Brown moved to insert
$9,000 for bridges and breakwater
in Koolaupoko.- Withdrawn.
Noble Hitchcock said he had been
listening attentively to hear from
the member for Kona, hut as yet
he had not said a word. He there
fore moved to insert $5,250 for a
snow shed over the road near Ki
Iiolo, Kona. This road goes through
a cut in the mountain.
Rep. Kuuhi moved to insert $5,
000 for roads and bridges for Ewa
and Waianac. Lost.
For macadamizing streets in
Honolulu $G9,000
Rep. Richardson moved to insert
$10,000 for macadamizing the streets
of Wailuku and Kahului. Lost.
Bridge over stream at Wailua
Kauai $12,000
On motion the committee rose, re
ported progress, and asked leave to
sit again.
The following committees were
appointed :
. On the items 3000 for Water
Woiks at Koloa, Kauai, and $10,
000 for Water Works at Wailuku:
lions. Rice, Smith, Richardson,
Wall and Berticmann, On the item
of $8000 for road to top of Punch
bowl: lions. Young, Robinson, Na
one Dole and McGuire.
Tho House adjourned till Thurs
day. 43iuDay !Tulv 19th.
MOIININO SESSION.
Tlio House opened at 10 a. m.,
President W. R. Castle In tlio chair.
Roll called and absentees noted.
ItKl'OKTd OF COMMITTEES.
Itop. F. Brown reported from the
Printing Committee thai the veto
message had been printed and was
ready for distribution.
Ho also reported from the Select
Commltlco to whom was referred
the hill to regulate the payment and
collection of water rates, recom
mending that the bill be laid on tho
table, and that a new bill which they
present with the report us a substi
tute, bo passed.
The report was accepted and the
bill went to the 'Printing Commit
tee. He also reported that three bills
wero printed and ready for distribu
tion. Noble Wilcox reported from tho
committee to whom was referred tio
bills relating to street railways, that
tluy would like more time for Mm
consideration of ono bill, and repoit
a substitute hill in place of ono, ex
tending thu franchise to W. R
Austin and his associates to Sept.
1st, 1889. .
Noblo Smith moved that tho rules
bo suspended and the bill bo rend a
second time by its title. Carried.
Rep. Kinney reported from the
Special Committee to whom was re
ferred a resolution to inaugurate tiie
study of leprosy by native Hawai
ians in the public schools at least
once a week, recommending that it
bo adopted and that $1,200 lie in
serted in tho Appropriation Bill for
printing suitable books lit the Ha
waiian language for this purposes.
Noble Townscnd moved to amend
the lesoiution by making it at least
10 days in cacli year, instead of once
a week. He thought it interfering
too much Willi the management of
schools by arranging a daily pro
gramme. Rep. Kalaukoa moved to take up
the resolution for consideration.
Noble Smith was in favor of the
motion of Rep. Kalaukoa with an
amendment, that the resolution be
printed and made an order of the
day. lie thought that it was not
necessary to state that the subject
of leprosy should be taught, but
that it could be differently worded so
that it would not advertise our na
tional disease.
Noble Smith's motion carried.
Minister Thurston reported in re
gard to the petition from Kawclo,
Hilo, for $500 for land taken by the
Government for a load. Mr. J. M.
Litigate, chairman of the Road
Board for Hilo, writs Mint a settle
ment had been effected with this
man bofor tho road was commenced,
but subsequently the land had
changed hands and had come into
possession of Mr. D. B. Wahine a,
would-be lawyer of that place, and
he makes this claim for damages.
He expresses the hope that the legis
lature will take no notice of such
claims as these, as they arc unfound
ed and frivolous.
On motion the petition was laid
on the table.
Minister Green presented a list of
taxes and the commissions paid on
them for the year 1887.
On motion the repoit was ordered
printed.
KESOLUTION AND BILLS.
Rep. F. Brown read a fust time
a hill to regulate the receipt, storage,
and delivery of goods in bond. Re
ferred to Printing Committee.
He also gave naticc of a bill to
regulate the carriage of freight be
tween tho islands.
Noble Smith offered the the fol
lowing resolution: Whereas with
sorrow we have heaid of the death
of the beloved wife of His Excel
lency Jonathan Austin, Minister of
Foreign Affairs ; Be it resolved, that
the Legislature do adjourn at twelve
o'clock this day in respect of tlio
memory of Mrs. Austin ; Resolved,
That we hereby express our sym
pathy for His Excellency and his
bereaved family in this great afllio
tion, and pray that the almighty
Father may comfort them. Resolved,
that a copy of these resolution be
presented to His Excellency.
Adopted.
Rep. F. Brown offered a resolu
tion that the Minister of the Inter
ior be requested to furnish this
House with the amounts in full for
the following items : Tlio amount of
unexpended road money j the
amount of money now to the credit;
the amount estimated for the years
1888 to 1890; and the amounts
that the Minister of the Interior has
had appropriated for all the districts
in the Hawaiian Islands. For item
roads and bridges outside of Hono
lulu or the district of Kona, Oahu.
Noble Townscnd said he objected
to this log lolling and got up to
protest against it. He thought it
impossible for tho Minister to com
ply with this last request.
Rep. F. Brown said that was the
object of his resolution, to stop that
very log-rolling. The resolution
was adopted.
Noblo Smith read a first time a
bill to amend Section 0 of chapter 11
of the Penal Code relating to seduc
tion. Referred to Printing Com
mittee. Rep. Rice read a iirst time a bill
to provide for the teaching of Ila
waiiaus to Ilawaiiaus in tho public
schools.
Noble Richardson moved to re
ject the bill, and spoke in suppoit
of his motion.
Rep. Kauhane, Rep. Rico and
Noble Smith spoke in favor of the
bill.
Noble Richardson said that in
order to save time ho would with
draw his motion, and the bill went
to second reading under tlio rules.
Noble Richardson gave notice of
a bill to amend Suction 1 chapter
1G of the Civil Code, relating to di
voces. Noblo Hitchcock read a (irst time
n bill to repeal the passport law, to
tako effect from and after January
1st 1889. Went to second leading
under tlio rules.
Ho also read another bill to
abolished the $2.00 hospital tax.
Went to second reading under tlio
rules.
Rep. Horner moved to reconsider
the voto of yesterday for $2,500
for two bridges at Waibee. Carried,
and the item was referred back to
the committee of the whoio to-morrow.
Tho IIouso Mien adjourned until
10 a. in. Friday.
Hill Day July 20th.
MOIININO SKSsION.
The House opened at 10 a. m.,
Picsideiit W. R. Castlo in tlio chair.
Roll called and absentees noted.
ituroitTS or committees.
Rep. F. Brown reported from the
i-igKSssfagsgsaaas
Printing Committee that two bills
were printed and ready for distribu
tion. Noble Townscnd reported from
the Committee on Education to
whom was referred the bill relating
to tuition fees in schools, recom
mending tlio IIouso to pass a substi
tute bill which they offer. The re
port was oidered printed.
Hep. C. Brown rcpoiled from tho
Judiciary Committee to whom wan
referred a section in the bankrupt
bill, recommending that the section
pass witli the following amendment:
That "the bankrupt shall have the
privilege of appealing to the Su
preme Court or Court in Banco
within ten days." The report was
ndoptcd and the bill passed to en
grossment. Minister Austin, in answer to the
questions propounded by Hon. G.
P. Kamauoha, stated that ho went
to His Majesty after his return from
Kona and boloro the opening of the
Legislature, and asked him to call
a Cabinet council to go over and
consider the bills prepared by the
Cabinet, the Military hill was one.
Tho King replied that he did not
want a Cabinet council, as he was
only interested in the speech from
the throne at the opening, and the
appropriation for tho civil list. He
He lcqucstcd me to ask the Premier
to have copies of these mailers
made and sent to him. They were
so made and sent.
2nd. When tlio Military bill was
taken to His Majesty for signature,
1 stated to him that 1 was directed
to inform him, that the Cabinet
unanimously advised him to sign it,
and said that the Ministers were at
his service for any consultation de
sired by him. I further said on my
own behalf that I was very desiious
that he should sign all bills passed
by the Legislature, that I felt that
it was for the good of the country
and for the personal benefit of His
Majesty that he should not act in
any maimer contrary to the express
ed wisli of the House, who I felt
sure represented the feelings of the
best citizens of the Kingdom and
that such wishes were distinctly
shown in their renewed expressions
after a veto.
ItESOLUTIONS AND BILLS.
Rep. C. Brown gave notice of a
bill to repeal Chap. 79 of tuc laws
of 1880.
Rep. Kalaukoa presented a reso
lution to the effect that a certain
gate on the Kapiolani road was
locked and requested that the Min
ister of the interior to older it
opened as it is an old right of way.
The IIouso ruled that the resolu
tion was out of older.
Noble Richardson read a first
time a bill to amend the session
laws relating to divorce.
On motion tho bill was ordered
not printed.
OliDEIl OF THE DAY.
The House went into Committee
of the Whole, Noble Townscnd in
the Chair, to consider the Appiopri
ation Bill.
The (irst business done was the
re-consideration of the item $2,500
for two bridges at Waiiiec, Maui.
Tho motion to insert this amout was
lost.
Noble Richardson moved to in
sert $2,500 for bridges at Ilonoko
liuu and Kahakuloa, Maui.
Minister Thurston said Micro
would piohahly be more items ask
ed for for such purposes, but if one
member after the other gets up and
a-ks for appropriation under this
iicad, which llic members must know
is estimated from receipts derived
from a loan upon which G per
cent has to be paid, he would
fore suggest that the contingent
fund be raised from $25,000 ' to
$35,000 to cover all these necessary'
outlays, and stop this itemizing and
swelling the Appropriation Bill out
of all proportion to the amount of
money likely to bo received.
Noble Hichardsou asked to with
draw his motion.
Rep. Ilelokunihi moved to insert
$5,000 for a road from Olinda to the
top of Halcakala. Lost.
Unexpended road tax for the sev
eral districts, $52,852.14.
Road damages, $93,000.
The item of S 13,000 for electric
lights was next discussed.
Minister Thurston said that ho
was socialist enough to advocate that
tho Government should take charge
of and operate such works as rail
roads, gasligliting, telegiaphs, etc.
He did not know what tho matter
was with tlio editor of the Bulletin ;
hu must suffer some in his corpor
osity, or is bo looking for prospec
tive profits from a private electric
light company? It is a fact that
this country would not have had a
Hotel, had not the Government
built it. It rnu the first steamer in
tho inter island trado successfully.
It built a maiiiie inilway which
would not have been built had tho
Government not taken the matter in
hand, and ho believed that the Gov
ernment would yet have to build
hotels on tho other islands in order
to stait tlio thing. He believed that
tlic Government should
operate
another
those different systems for
icason, and that was to cheapen tho
expenso to the public. What pro
fits there aro in the business go to
tho taxpayers and not to a corpora
tion. Noble Baldwin moved to refer tho
item to a select committee,
Noble Smith favored tho motion
and said that ho did not ngrco with
tho Minister of the Iutetior, in hav
ing Government run these things.
Ho wants to know what lighting
private houses with electricity has
to do with developing the resources
of tho country, and ho questioned
the wisdom of borrowing money for
any such purposo, particularly when
private parties arc ready and wait
ing to get a franchise to light tho
town.
Minister Ashford said ho did not -sec
any pellicular reason why this
should not be left to a committee,
unless perhaps it might cause delay,
lie said lie must answer some of tho
antiquated propositions and remarks
of the last speaker. The Minister
poke of sevcralcittcs where tlio Gov
ernment controlled the gas works, and
in sonic countries bakcries,brewericj,
etc., are controlled by the Govern
ment. This was a proposition to
give to the Government an income
of about 23 per cent on the outlay,
and Mms reduce the cost of the sup
ply to tho consumers.
Noble Baldwin said lie sided with
the Attorney-General in his view ot
tlio question. The Government is
now at an expense of $8,000 per
annum under tho present system,
and if they incorporate the lighting
of private dwellings with the system
they now have there will bo a prolt
of Si, 900 per year to the Govern
hont. Tho item was referred to a select
committee.
Tlio Committee rose, reported
progress and asked leave to sit
again at 1 p. m.
The House then took a recess
until 1 p. m.
AFTEKNOON SESSION.
The House re-assembled at 1 p.
in. and went into committee of the
whole, Noble Townscnd in the chair,
to resume the consideration, of the
Appropriation Bill.
Encouragement of Immigration, de
ferred. Sewerage of Honolulu, plain
and specification. ...$1,200
The item of $30,000 to encourage
Immigration was taken up.
Noble Baldwin moved to make it
$50,000..
Rep. F. Brown moved to strike it
out. There is more labor now in
the country that can be used, and
the law now on the statute book can.
be enforced and make these people
go to work, lie was not in favor of
the Government paying for the im
portation of laborers for plantations.
The item should read, "For helping
plantation owners to secure labor
ers." Rep. Kinney moved to defer this
item until after the report from the
Supreme Court received. Carried.
Nuuanu Pali toad $45,000
The Minister of the Interior
moved to strike this item out, as it
is useless to try and do 810 worth
of woik with only $5, and there
wero other roads in the Kingdom
that needed the money worse than
this one.
Rep. C. Brown said that if the
people of his district could receive
a guarantee from the Minister that
the road would be kept in as good
order as it is now, he would not
urge the passage of this item.
Mr. F. Brown said that some
thing had come over the spirit of the
Ministry, and had the Minister of
the Interior consulted with the Hon.
Noble Baldwin to help him compile
his report of expenditure, it would
have been in better shape It seems
that the Minister of the Interior
only holds his scat under the pleas
ure of Noble Baldwin. The Finance
Committee, of which Mr. Baldwin
was a member, reported that this
appropriation was an absolute neces
sity, and now lie says it may be a
good tiling, but it can be deferred.
The road is dangerous, and should
be fixed. Only a short time ago the
Road Supervisor and his family had
a narrow escape from death by fall
ing rocks, and any man who opposes
tins item and by so doing makes it
impossible for an appropriation to
be made, and from such neglect
any one is killed on that pali,
such member should be indict
ed for manslaughter, and should he
be killed in going down the pali, I
would go to his funeral with pleas
ure. It seems that the district of
Koolaupoko is under a ban since
this reform Ministry has come into
power. Before their advent tho dis
trict had a physician, but they re
formed him out. Now they want
some money to make a road whereby
they can come into Honolulu and
not endanger their lives, and iniuic
dintely sonic ono moves to strike it
out.
Rep. C. Brown said he had been
informed Miat a good wagon road
could bo built down that pali for
$20,000. Ho therefore moved -to
make it that amount.
Noblo Waterhouso moved to refer
this item to a .Select Committee. He
said it was an important matter and
one that should have tho careful
attention of this House.
Rep. Kinney supported tho mo
liaii to refer to a committee.
Noble Baldwin replied to the re
marks of Rep. F. Brown, and said
that he did not know he had such
fttl infllloilnr, rt,it flm XTi'm1U r Al...
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interior, lie would liko to have that
inlluence, especially when he up-
proaches him on some subject and
lie bristles up all over. At a con
ference held by tlio Finance Com
mllten at which a number of people
living in Honolulu were present,
this matter was thoroughly discuss
ed, and it was thought that Oahu
had an undue proportion of monoy
for roads, to the exclusion of some
of the out districts. Tlio Ministry
saw that such was Mio case and con
cluded to let this item go,
Noblo Young spoke- in favor of
striking out the item, for tho ruasouA
that the government has not the j
monoy to uso for this purpose. lie
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