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IMJJLiY- BUItliBTms WmoiATLrU, H. 1., SEPTEMBER 06, 18H0.
We Desire fo Call
Tor Lubiicating the Valves nnd
.V BrniflTTBtrn y
VALVOL1NE is an earth oil specially prepared under Uio highcNt steam
neat nnd from which nil volatile nnd eurlhy mutter him been expelled by n
process which le.ues a pure nnd heavy oil, which pieveuta the citing nwy
of bolts nnd keeps the cylinder nnd piston packing perfectly clenn. This
wns the llrst Mineral Oil introduced loi alcmn cylinders and has been in con
stant use oer eighteen years.
"Wc aho manufacture Supeiior Machine and Spindle Oils for nil
claBees of machinery.
JLieoiiXLrcl Ac JEllin,
HONOLULU IBON WORKS CO., Solo Agents. coi 3m
Dluinnri BlfMslr." Non. OS .Sc UV KInjr Htrom.
Granite, Iron and Tin Ware !
Chandeliers, Lamps and Lanterns,
WATER PIPE and RUBBER HOSE,
House Keeping Goods,
PLUMBING, TIN, COPPER AND
Sheet Iron .Work.
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Shipping & Commission Merchants,
PLANTATION & INSURANCE AGENT8,
Builders' and General Hardware, Agricultural Implements,
Carpenters', Blacksmiths', Machinists' fe Plumbers' Tools,
HOUSE FURNISHING GOODS !
Kitchen Utensils, Paints, Oils, Varnishes, Lamp Goods and
Blake's Steam Pomps, Weston's Centrifugals,
Wilcox & Gibbs, & Remington Sewing Machines,
Dr. Jape & Sons Family Medicines,
E. R. Hendkt, President & Mnnagor. John Kna, Vice-President!
(tawnier Buowk, Secretary & Treasurer. Cecil Jtuow-V, Auditor. '
HAWAIIAN HARDWARE CO.,
OyjM. NprackclM Hunk, : Fori Sfrct'.l, Honolulu.
IMPORTERS and DEALERS IN
Gen'l Hardware, Glassware, Crockery,
Genuine Haviiand China, plain and decorated; and Wedgowood
Piano, Library & Stand Lamps, Clmudoliors fc Electoliors,
J .amp Fixtures of all kinds, A coinploto iissortm't of IWIIh ,fc Files,
PLANTATION SUPPLIES Of EVERY DESCRIPTION '
Thr "Gazelle" ii-whoelod Riding Plow A. Equalizer,
Illuobeard Rico .Plow, PlanleiH' Steel A QoohoiiocLtiI JIimw,
LARD, CYLINDER, KEROSENE, LINSKED,
Paint, Vurniilir-H & IlniHlum, Manila A, Sisal Itopu,
HANDLES OF ALL KINDS,
XIono, XioHo, Hone,
HlMIKR, WHUMIOUNI) of Hiipurior rpmllty, A HTRAM,
AlpUn lion Warn, Silver I'lalotl Wnio.TnliJn A PooUot Cutlery,
I'nwdur, Hhnl iV (JitpH, Tito UuiiirHul "Ulub" Miuiliiiiixlmuluil CtirtrldKitH,
Mivrl'n I'atiinl ")iipiu Din Monk h,r I'iii ,V U,) 'J'liitwIliiK,
Jjflwn' Hli'nl Wifu Fupim A flintil Wiro im,
, Ul , Wib, 0. VUW Wrpvhl BlH lltuiHN,
flt Oily mm vmsi uu ..
norWBU u$'t Quite? mm,
Your Attention To
Cylindera of Steam Engines.
The House resumed nt 1 :10.
Rep. Nnwnhi continued hl9 re
marks on the San Dlego-llUo stonin-
8hip subsidy. One of the strongest
arguments of the hon. member for
Honolulu was that the new line
would make hoise feed cheap. This
lie regarded as rather an argument
iti favor of the subsidy. The steam
ship business here began on n small
senle some years ago, and its growth
has been marked by a large increase
in general business. Tho hon. mem
ber was afraid the line would have
no freight. The railroads and new
enterprises going on would make
abundance of freight. A while ago
people here considered they were in
full dress with the maio, but with
the march f progress natives were
now going about in plug hata and
broadcloth suits. There are large
areas of land on Hawaii suitable for
bananas, but it was no use raising
the fruit while there were only sail
ing vessels to carry it to market.
He asked the members to give the
country districts a show. Ifl8,
000 was too much vote 830,000,
which would be $000 a month for
the rest of the period. It was not
the intention to continue the small
steamer Farallon, for the bill said it
was to be steamers of 1.100 tons.
The better climate of San Diego as
compared with San Franci9co would
be an incentive to tourist travel
Rep. Cumminga interrupted the
speaker to a$k for leave of absence,
as he had trouble in Ins rauuiy.
Rep. Lucas said that a year ago
Sau Diego was expected to be the
New York of the Pacific Coast, but
to-day it was very little belter than
Hilo." The idea of subsidizing such
a place was ridiculous, you might as
well talk of running a line from
Waialua to San Francisco. You
could almost throw a stone from
San Francisco to San Diego. There
was a big" tourists' hotel at San
Diego, but people would think noth
ing of going to San Francisco to
take passage from the islands. It
wns not to cheap Hay ho objected
but the way that it was sold, making
unfair competition with the dealers
who paid for licenses.
Rep. Nawahi asked If those who
sold ha' at auction did not have to
pay for licenses.
Rep. Lucas could not answer,
perliaps the President would. Hilo
got $55,000 for a road, although
Hawaii did not pay as much taxes
Noble Widemann thought nilo
had been vcrywcll treated. It had
got $55,000 for the volcano road,
and $20,000 for a wharf. Did it,
ever rain anything but water in Hilo.
Didn't it sometimes rain $20 gold
pieces? This was the last straw
that broke the camel's back. And
the steamer that they ask this sub
fiidy for a miserable, broken-down,
old tub. It took her about six
months to go to San Francisco and
back. Hilo had the business to
warrant a steamer line. The steam
er brought her cargo here and dump
ed it on the wharf. "When she went
away last trip the wharf was cover
ed with hay that she couldn't sell.
A steamer worth $4000 was not
worth a subsidy of $2000 a month.
Noble J. M. Horner was sorry to
see the spirit manifested whenever
it was proposed to do anything for
any place outside of Honolulu. In
California they tried to transfer
business to Sancelito, because they
would not hnvo to build such long
wharves there. They gave privi
liges to other towns all round, but
San Francisco went right ahead.
Honolulu would not be hurt bjT the
building up of other towns. He
would like to see members take a
broader, more statesman-like view
Noble "Widemann (laughing)
Noble Horner The remark was
intended for the Honolulu repre
sentative, not for tliCjNoble, but if
it suited the Noble he could take it.
Here is. a little book (holding up
Whitney's Guide) and here Hono
lulu is shown as the hub of the Paci
fic. In a few years lie believed
every one of those lines would be
rnnning, and there would be a vol
ume of travel such as the world had
never seen. The Oceanic steamers
had been started some years ago
when they needed a subsidy, and
now that profitable company was
given another subsidy, although it
had not asked for anything. Now, a
little was asked to start a new line
to a now port, and the hon. member
over thero objected that It would
make hay cheaper ! That was just
what the speaker wanted, to make
the hay cheaper, make the lime
cheaper, make the cement cheaper.
Wo were now shivering in our shpes
on account of the change in tho Am
erican tariff, that would make us
earn only cents whero we now earn
ed dollars. Jn that case wo should
have to get things cheaper. Hut
tills steamer was not going to stop
tit Honolulu, It was coining to Hono
lulu, everything hud to pay tribute
to Honolulu, Sun Diego was tio
centre of it population of RJO.OOQ
lpo)o nlin wiwitml (o gut tliclr
tionloiil fruits from liut InIuiiiU,
Tlif Muutj of lliwitll (intiltl proiluod
tiif)ni)oiifiiiintltlt)i) of liiiuium. Hint
now hui to ml no tint kwuiiiI II
tljB poor utlvw opals! fW inrM
fur, yjii iMMpni tljuy wfjiiji jlo
wi'U rnlflDf? (hut dull oji flielr bulp'
anas,. This steamer in loaded nt
S.an Diego with produce that the
peoplo here needed, but it hud to go
by way of Sun Francisco and pay
toll nli the way. The Volcano road
was as much, if not moro, for tho
benefit of Honolulu as for that of
Hilo, so thuy could not say tht tho
appropriation for that woik was
altogether a benefit to Hilo.
Minister Brown said it was an ad
mitted fact that steamship Ifnes
were a general benefit. But theie
was such a thing ns paying too
much ; they had to go slow, to cut
their coat 'according to the dot If.
With the subsidy for Urn Tahiti line,
the steam line subsidies granted nnd
proposed would amount to $00,000,
or a twentieth of our entiic income.
The appropiiation bill was so swell
ed up Hint we could not afford it.
He was at San Diego several ycais
ago but would hanlto' recognize it
by the glowing descriptions just.
Noble J. M. Horner "When wore
you last at San Diego?
Ministsr Brown About six years
Noble Horner I thought so.
Noble Widemann When was the
hon. Noble there?
Minister Brown Last century.
Some members objected strenuously
to the moderate subsidy granted to
the Oahu Railway, and how they
could strain at that gnat nnd swal
low this camel passed his compre
hension. He wns in a position,
moreover, to say that the treasury
could not afford this subsidy.
Noble Baldwin was thankful to
the lion. Noble from Ilamakua for
having explained the map on the
cover of the Guide, as he could not
understand it before. If all those
lines on ttie map represented ocean
steamer lines, they should all tun
out and buy corner lots. He lived
on an island betwixt Hawaii and
Oahu, and had listened with interest
to tile spitting of fire between the
representatives of Honolulu and
Hilo. The proposed line, he saw by
the prodpeetus, was intended to
bcncllt his island, but the view the
Legislature should tako was that of
the general good of the whole group.
He did not think two steamer lines
to California would pay.
Oceanic steamers once iniiilo
nightly trips but they did not
While he believed a line to
would pay better than an additional
line to Honolulu, yet there was not
enough business to make another
line profitable. The greater part of
our outward friend was slow and
did not require steam transport.
Maui could as well come to Hono
lulu as go to Hilo with its freight.
It would take time to work up the
fruit trade, bananas requiring about
two yeais and pineapples some time.
It took a long time before the
banana business on Oabu grew to
be anything. Time would be re
quired to develop the market at
San Diego. No doubt thero would
be a large market there in time,
when the steamers would be de
manded. Merchandise was always
cheaper in large centres, and he had
his doubts if produce could be
bought cheaper at San Diego than
at San Francisco. In regard to
tourists, all wanted to sec San Fran
cisco and that region, which was
very attractive and beautiful. The
country could not afford to subsi
dize two lines, and, if they could,
the additional benefits would not be
in proportion to the increased ex
penditure. Kcp. iiiown bcucvcu as a rule in
subsidizing steamship lines. He
could not support this bill in its ex
isting shape. He moved an amend
ment adding, after "Minister of the
Interior is hereby authorized," the
words, "in his discretion by and
with the consent of a majority of
the Cabinet." It was too much
latitude as it stood to give one Min
ister in such an important matter.
Rep. Nawahi replied to the argu
ments of the opponents of the bill,
expressing differing conclusions from
thoirs as to the results to be expect
ed from-tho line. He would not ask
the House to pass tbo bill if he did
not know that it would benefit Hilo,
and believe that it would benefit the
whole country. If the Minister of
Finance was so afraid of the camel,
he ought to lighten the poor crea
ture's load, on the third reading of
the 'Appropriation Bill, by removing
the Oceanic steamers' subsidy;
mako the total burden $2,000,000,
or the amount of our revenue, in
stead of $d,000,000, and even shnve
a little slice off the Ministers' sala
ries. Noble Widemann did not see how
a line to Hilo would benefit banana
raisers in other districts. They
would have to subsidize lines to
Knu, Kona, Koliala, Hamakua, Ma
htikona, Kawaihac, God knew how
many places on Maui, Koolaupoko,
nnd," lastly, to Nlihau, and then the
Bchemu would bo oomplote. This
line would shortly biing Sun Diego
oranges here ,'uiatcud of taking our
Hep. Whito compared tho situa
tion, when the outer districts wauled
anything, to a Hook of chickens
striving vnlnly to got somo pickings
away fiom an old rooster. The bill
was a good bill. Many members
treated it as u bill for tho pcrsutml
benefit of Rep, Nnwnhi and Noble
Horner, H wns nothing of the
kind, but a ineamiru for tliu bunelll
of tile whole Ibluml of JJinvuli,
Wlion tin) 1)111 for tliu OoiiiiuIu mil
Klily wun Inlrnduoi'il, Hup, Kulim
uiitt otlims trloil Imiil to rui It
lliimiuli "Itliout uojudilvrutlon, Im
ouiifu It ftp I'l Ini it IjiiuuLU Hunt).
HfljjDlulij by nljdji, Honolulu 'nil lljp
time( with some members. Hono
lulu worshipped two divinities, but
fnvored the Almluhtv Dollar more
than the God in Heaven. The Min
ister of Finance said he had never
thought of looking into the public
safe till hnlf an hour ago. Then ho
opened the safe door nnd found there
wasn't a dollar left. (Laughter.)
Noble Ivauhnno moved to strike
out the subsidy, and then the com
pany would have Tree houses, wharf
age, buoys and lights.
Noble Macfailane could see no
possibility of developing an linpott
nut trade between Hilo and S.ui
Diego. lie was not surprised at
Noble Horner's attitude, as ho lias
been on his feet to defend every ex
travagant item langing from $100,
000 up. In the discussion of finances
he has been watching the spigot
while water was running from tliu
bung, lie had given a very glowing
description of the 1!K),00() people
in San Diego waiting to cat the Hilo
bananas. You' would think thej
were all on the beach waiting for the
Hilo steamer to come in. lie could
tell them that there was nothing like
130,000 people in San Diego, nor
even !10, 000. Theie is no trade be
tween Hilo and San Diego that is
worth developing at this time, in
cousidciulioii of the amount asked
for. It wns not tine that products
could be landed cheaper from San
Diego than fiom San Francisco.
Their llrst shipload of hay was stored
for two mouths on the Esplanade.
It was of an inferior quality and
could not compete with the ship
ments by sailing vessel from San
Francisco, several invoices of which
were sold white the San Diego ship
ments could not be disposed of. I
would like to ask the member from
Hilo and the Noble from Ilamakua
what they propose to load a 1500
ton ship with. Up to date thej' have
not stieceedecl in obtaining a
contract for return freights.
Rep. Nawahi asked if the Noble
would vote for the bill if he would
Noble Mncfarlane Yes, if 1 am
convinced there will be sullicicnt
height for the vessels.
Rep. Nawahi said all the mer
chants of Hilo lind piomised to
Noble Mncfarlane said they might
pick up some stray beans, corn or
dried apples, but he meant sugar
Rep. Nawahi said perliaps the
hon. Noble had relatives in the hay
ami feed business.
Noble Macfarlane said that cut no
figure in the discussion. The coun
tiy could not afford to pay any ad
ditional subsidies when we were
already provided with adequate
steamer service. He thought it was
about time that we were lopping off
some of the crazy appropriations
that the House had been making
instead of piling up additional bur
dens for the tax-payers to meet.
Rep. Nawahi said one of the su
gar companies promised their sugir.
Noblo Macfarlane That is not a
Noble Hind That is not a con
tract. Rep. Nawahi said the hon. Noble
(Macfarlane) seemed to be working
in the interest of relatives iu the
Noble Macfarlane said tho feed
business of his relatives was neither
heie nor there. There was no
danger of competition in that busi
ness from San Diego, for it had
been tried before and failed.
Rep. Nawahi was putting more
Noble Widemann lose to a point
of order. Who had the floor? Were
they to listen to a convocation be
tween two membeis?
The President The lion. Noble
is right, but it is only fifteen min
utes since he was engaged in a dis
cussion with another member acrobs
Noble J. M. Homer wished to ad
dress himself to Noble Baldwin who
had one of the most logical minds
here. (Applause.) Ho would not
dispute what the Noble said, it was
not safe to do that, but ho wished
to refer to his argument that this
lino was premature. Would natives
and others go to planting if there
was no steamer to take their pio
ducts? When the steamer came they
might plant. When thoy saw the
steamer pushing its bows in every
month they would have faith and
energy and wonld go to planting.
But if we wait till there are lots of
lemons, oianges aud bananas before
wo pin on the steamers we'll never
do anything. One word more. The
hon. Noblo (Noble Mucfnrlano) has
mentioned nvy name pretty fre
quently and not respectfully.' Will
1 plead guilty of not being an old
fogy. I am nn old man but not an
old fogy, and the young man will
never amount to anything until lie
lays off his fogy clothes. If wo want
to make progress in this woild wc
must steer clear of fogies. You
don't see fogyism in Ilamakua.
(Noble Marsden That's so!) If 1
had sat down nnd said, oh, 1 can't,
before nil those big tices in llama
kuu,K"uiiiuu wouldn't look ns It docs
now. When I see a man with his
hIcovcs rolled up ready to go at any.
i mug una ouers itbctr, i sua n nuiii
uftor my own lieint, no matter If hu
hasn't nilollnr In tliu world, How
I wish tliu iiullve HtuviilltuiH liud
tills deposition will) tliolr pendli
Htrengtli, In HfU'Oi! yi'ois they'd
itll lm worth Imlf it million, l,ut un
K0 llliutiil hi) tllllt III li) years wo'll
Imvn it ImiimIumI iiiIIIIdhw of ilolhuu
iuiu iniumi pf forty. I Ijbvo imHj,
Iuk U do IUi till Upuislilj) oaqji
mm uuMlrj" um) m Itir IJiiimilsujj
NO. 77 FORT
First Annual Cash Clearance Sale !
Commencing Monday, Aug. 18th, for Two Weeks only.
Great Reduction in ail Departments to make room for Goods to arrive
Calicos, 22 yards for f 1.
Giuglmiii, 10 nnd 12 yuuls foi 1.
Sn teens, 7 yards for $1,
Tnlilc Ojiticn, Xapkinx, ToucIh, Sheetings, Ktc, H.,
Ladies' & Cliildi en's Hosiery Hand
koiohicK Embroideries (Jloves, Mitt, Rib
B. F. EHLEKS & CO.
HAVE JUST UECEIVKD A VERY l.ARGB ASSOlUMliNT 01"
Dressed & Undressed Kid-Cloves
CURTAINS IN LACE, SCRIM, MADRAS & ANTIQUE
in Great Variety. New Goodb in nil Departments.
fiiS?" Our LheKsmnking Department under the ninn.iycinent of MISS
CLARK will bo re-oponed about May 12th.
only. This gentleman says I go in
for everything expensive. He'll
sec that I don't before the session is
over. I go in for what I think will
Noblo Macfarlane said Noble
Horner could regard him then as a
case of "arrested development."
Noble Hind was sorry to have to
confess he was one of the old fogies.
He had lived longer in this country
titan the hon. Noble from Hamakua,
and he could tell him that the
growth of the county's wealth was
not caused by these great schemes
of improvement. Mr. Thurston
said he made that over-expenditure
because Hilo petitioned for it. At
that very time Koliala was up to its
knees in mud. Hilo got everything
The ayes aud noes ware called on
the motion to indefinitely postpone
the bill, when there appeared:
Ayes Minister Brown ; Nobles
Widemann, Berger, Macfarlane,
Midler, Phillips, Kauhane, Hind,
1'arker, Marsden, Baldwin, Corn
well, Walhridge, G. N. Wilcox, Ra
ima, Iscnberg; Reps. Brown, Lu
cas, Kuuhi, Rickard, Knuookano,
Apiki, and A. S. Wilcox. 23.
Noes Minister Peterson ; Nobles
Pua, McCarthy, Crabbe, J. M.
Horner, W.Y. Horner, vonTempsky ;
Reps. Marques, R. W. Wilcox,
Bush, Nawahi, Baker, A. Horner,
Waipuilani, White, Kanealii, Hal
stead, Knudscn, and Rice. 19.
Minister Peterson, on the roll be
ing called, said he was not in favor
of the bill as it stood, but would
like to have it amended in respect
to the amount of subsid', and for
that reason would vote no.
Rep. Pachaole was excused from
voting at his request.
A motion to reconsider was lost.
The House adjourned at 4:10.
ft. G. hi & Company,
orrnu fou sale
JLiiraie &: Oenaent.,
PARAFFINE PAINT CO.'S
COMPOUNDS and ROOFING,
Felt Steanj Pipe Covering, all sizes.
BUCK & OHI,ANDT'3
High1 Grade Chemlcal Cane Manure.
Falrbank Canning Co.'s Corned
Beef, 1 mid 2 lb, Huh.
SALMON IN BARRELS,
A NATURAL Wnwiid Water. Foi
fcitlu only by
' W, H. MJOIJ,
Snlu Agmit .t Impoilur fur lliu In.
ftliP' Jliillor- .A, iWi Iwinlmo
Black Cuttliinou's nnd Merinos, 40c
yurd and upwnrds
Colored Wool Du'BMUnndtf, 10c yatd
Laces, Ladies' Chemise, Skirtx,
Special bargains in Black Lace
Oceanic Shinty Coi'f.
From San Francisco.
Leave Due at
S. F. Honolulu
Alameda Sept 20 Sept 27
Mariposa Oct 18 Oct 25
Zealandia Nov 15 Nov 22
Alameda Dec 13 Dec 20
For San Francisco.
Leave Due at
Zealnndia." Oct 1 Oct 18
Alameda Oct 29 Nov 15
Mariposa Nov 2G Dec 1
Zenlandia Dec 24 Jail 10
Leave S. F.
Friday . . Sept 12
Friday. ..Oct 10
Friday. ..Nov 7
Friday. ..Dec C
S. S. Australia.
Friday . . Sept 2(5
Friday. . . Oct 24
Friday. . . Nov 21
Fiiday. ..Dec 18
FOIC SAtf FKAKCISCO,
The new and fine Al steel steamship
Of the Oceanic Steamship Company, will
be due at Honolulu trom Syduey
and Auckland on or ubout
Sept. 20. 1390.
And will leave for tho above port with
mails and passengers on or about that
For freight or passage, having STJ.
PERIOll ACCOMMODATIONS, apply
WM. Q. IRWIN & CO., Agents.
For Sydney and Auckland.
The new and fine Al steel steamship.
Of the Oceanic Steamship Company, willl
be due at Honolulu from San
Francisco on or nbout
Sept. 27, I 890.
And will have prompt dispatch witfo
mails and passengers for the above porte-
For freight or passage, 'having SU
I'ERIOK ACCOMMODATIONS appK
37 WM. G. IRWIN & CO.. Atronr
HAIIBRSMITH 4 HELD
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Catalogue sent fieo on application.
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