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YENING BUI ,LETIN
PAGES 9 tO 12
VOL. XVIII. NO. 3274.
HONOLULU, TERRITORY OF HAWAII, 8ATURDAY, JANUARY 6, 1906.
gl in; cnopper, wno reads the ads.
' first, saves her own (and the store's)
lime uses Letter judgment In se
lection of goods makes up her mind
about things more promptly than tha
I woman who shops In a rambling way,
Every day, In the stores, there are
special and particular selling events,
ium iiu urivci un special gooai,
buying chances of real Interest '
r AND ONLY TH08E WHO
READ THE ADS. KEEP AT ALL
IN TOUCH WITH THESE THINGS.
limn ullKwHai ilHw ., n
PRICE S CENTS.
WHEN THE FINANCIAL LEADERS FELL OUT
Testimony Given By Ryan And Harriman Before
The Insurance Investigating Commission-
Playing For Stakes Representing Control Orj
Hundreds Gf Millio.is Of Collars
New York, Dec. 12. Thomas Fortunn In the Hydo stock. I declined. He ol
Ilyan today told of the manner in Jcctcd to the trustees and wanted to
which E. II. Harriman, the bully of name two of them. Ho said he did nol
Wall street, tried to forco him to glvo
up half of the Hydo stock by using hi
inlluence with the Republican State ad
ministration 33 n club.
"Give me. half of the stock of the
Equitable Society or 1 will destroy Its
vnlue and fight J oil with all the flnan
clal and political power at my com
mand," Is tho gist of what Harriman
said to II) mi, according to the latter'
This Information was given the leg-
think I could carry out my plan with
out his aid. I said I Intended to dl
vest myself of control of the Equitable,
and I regretted very much to have hit
opposition, but I was going to carry
out my plan whether I bad his oppo
sltlon or not,"
Tbo purchase of tho Hydo stock, Mr,
Ilan said, was made on Friday, June
tith Mr Ilyan first heard from Mr,
(Harriman on that day. Mr. Harriman
ruiu uiu niiuk'OB, nusuvvicu uiub iiu
lslative Insurance Investigation com-t (It) an) was In on tho deal, and had a
mittee with something of rescrvo but talk with him on that day. Mr Han
with no apparent reluctance. I rlman saw him again on the following
mo decision of District Attorney Je. 'Monday or Tuesday in company with
rome to havrlm Indicted It he did not Ellhu Hoot and Paul Craatlt. Most of
answer the committee's questions had the things said were said at tha second
been all that It) an vras waiting for no- Interview. Mr. Ilyan told Mr. llarrl
parently, and ho told clearly and plain- man who the trustees were to be. Mar
ly tho substanco of tho convcrsatlOLS rlman said that ho had git en much
between Harriman and himself. (time to straightening out tho Eqult
Ellhu Hoot, now In President noose- able. Tho witness then said that liar
volt's Cabinet, and Paul p. Cravath, rlman gao no other reason than that
Itjnn's personal counsel, wera present tor demanding a sharo In the purchase
nt ona of these Interviews, and, while of tho H-)de stock.
It Is Improbablo that Itoot will be called Harrlman's Purpose,
to the stand, future developments miyi 'Tor what reason did Mr. Harriman
force the committee to ask for his to want halt the stock?" nsked Mr.
limony. I Hughes,
bays Harriman Was Furious. I "For the reason that ho had been
E. 11. Harriman was painted tvldly la the Equitable as a director and was
by Il)an In his testimony as a man hnlf not satisfied the stock should 'jo In
mad with rate over losing 'he excel- my hands," replied Mr Itnn
lent opportunity to obtain control ot "He said his wholo Inlluence would
tho Equitable Society and Its vast I against me. He said his political
tunds. Ilyan described several of the Influence would bo against me, but he
Interviews ns ttrcnupus, and this char' Md not mention any names. He said
Rrteritatlon was undoubtedly conserv- tho l-cglslatiiro would probably tnko
ntlvc. , action, but I don't think ho mentioned
Harriman demanded halt tho Hide any Investigation. I think ho said that
stock und nsel tho threats ho had found leglslativo action would probably re
effective In Wull street on many ocia- Rult, and that his Influence would b
Mom-, It was declared. It) an needed no Important. Mr. Harriman did not say
log to his memory to recall the manner an)thlng nbout legislative action In
In which the Introduction of Iho Amh- the event that I acceded to his request
Icr bill in Albany had caused Jamca Ho did not say his action In the mat
Ilaren Hyde to give up $75,000. He tor would be Important."
knew that tho club Harriman was 'n "Ply to question by Mr Hugher,
rwlnglng about his head had been used JIr- Rjan paid that Mr. Harriman did
beforo In Wall street with frightful not MV ln 80 wany words that his po
results, but hi refused to yield up any Htlcal Influence would bo against II) an,
liuit ot his Bpo.ls to Wall street bul-.ut tho witness understood Harriman
ly. jto mean his entire Influence, whether
Harriman mentioned leglslativo nc- rolltlcal, financial or otherwise. The
Hon as ono of tho means ho would cm- witness understood this to includo the
ploy against Ilyan to ruin him If tho possibility of leglslativo action. Ths
Jhdo stock were not split un couallv wnoss was not willing to allow Mr
U'twocn them Ho did not mention
specifically an Investigation commit
tee and gavo no hint of the exact na
ture of his courso of revengo. Tho up
(ointment ot tho Joint leglslativo com.
Harriman to name two trustees, be
cause he did not want an) body as a
partner In the enterprise. Tho wit
ness talked with Mr. Harriman over
tho telephone, and finally Mr Il)no
Nothing that has so far appeared up- peared absolutely unmoved except when His resentment grew almost beyond
on the i records of the committee has ex- i.e was torieu to uisciono the names of control at being forced to reveal the
niniEtD!?i.ain HteJf.1 ? I?' 11"!t""' B"U WlXon' w"e" "c smrea ou ' those with whom he had been
i?.i. i S t . i h. i '.I.; '"" -0,Ilra,Uce ana uemanuea of tuem doing business In Albany, for his flnan
n.i;mn, tti'. al i ?, T . a. .S tuat tuo uiu,,er ue hanu"-1 "y 'no lrea clal system has been based upon a line
Governor Hlgglns and the late Speaker in sum maimer as to relleit as little quality of secretlvencss. At no time
KilintKIi.!!!. , ?f hf t0""e "Von these two men. idld he break forth In the unintelligible,
hf m2S.n?i.iBd?i,rtf?i i . !Sl! Harriman Only WalllnB. almost Inarticulate "wow wow" speech
,,LZ X.J h f ?il.i , , ZStT, . '"u"''8 tai nas uc.fc.opcd slnec the "which marks him when In a tempest
phone when, he wanted Information investigation began has had In It mora of passion; the "wow wow" barking
i!"LI;iai C0.5l'?lDfi J?0 p i01 Br"" 'Kn'"ie than Mr. llarrl- that James H Hyde described as part
his enemies In tho Lqultoble. man a answer to tne question renardlnir of Harrlman's amument on tho Is.t
un sneenngiy and contemptuously. Mr. iiyan: - .,, h. , . ,h. h.n,,Mmn ,,, u,.ri.
uiu ou take any slips to thwart room of the Equitable building as a di
ms plans?" rector.
vol )et," said Mr. Harriman with a Purchase of Hyde Stock.
stcciy gutter in his ejes and a firmly Mr Harriman said he Icarnod of the
Factors ln Financial Oligarchy Of Our Country
Harriman Was Very Angry Talks Of His
Relations With Political Leaders And Legis-
lature Of New York
dismissed the theory that he derived
his political power from former Gov
ernor O'dclt by saying:
"I should think Mr. Odcll had polit
ical power becauso of his relations with KCt jaw.
'liiroughout tho examination .Mr.
sale of the Hyde, stock on the day that1
Mr, ll)an bought It. He telephoned to
Mr. H)an and asked him If he had
air. iiarrimans uso ot tne pasi tensoi llnrrinmn n. .ii,un,. i i.. i.i
In speaking of Mr. Odell's power may tbtlx m cnem. It was nnr.i In ,. ,,.i bought It,
havo been due to the poor grammatical' jAiOllcly by a law-)(r and a urouu of' "H)an said the pun base was tondt-
iigltiators, for lawyers and legislators J,0"al
construction of the sentence rather
than to the Intention to convey the In
timation that his power no longer ex
ists. Mr, Harriman was on the stand for
over an hour and during that time ap-
said Mr Harriman, "and that
nail always appiouincd him timidly " wit'1 to see me and talk with me
...... . .... anil llinl Iia ii hh .i.t IkIi . l
aim subserviently. It was galling to "n1 lhnt 1,e wnnt,"l niy help. I irit
have to listen to tho sardonic laugultr kl8C'1 .''' ,)lan nni1 wanted to know
ot an auuleme, when ne was playing wuul "e ,lea,u u l or
tno tomtdy part against his will. minutes later I went to Mr It)
I uimuii'iii m mo joint icgisiauvo com. , , , V. .1 ' jm
mittee Is regarded as tho f uinilmcnt ' "aUI t0 'Vr' ,,,'1arrlman that there waj
ot his threat, however, und Is taken as l,u "c '"'"'"K auoui ii. no would
evidence of his power. ontihango his mind.
Iflnored Harrlman's Demands. ""m.T".1? whre,at'
Harriman wanted one-hall of the1, "ulr. Harriman ay there would
tiock and said he would agree to trus- J. anthlnS Injurious to your Inter,
tee it If he were permitted to nam "ts 'f W rc",BCl1 to sell?" asked Mr.
two of the trustees. He also wanted ,'?,, ,, , ., .
to vote the controlling stock In tho , "V".'1 lenllro Influence would
election of directors of the society. I b5..nSaln.Bt mc "P1 Mr;,. "",
)on refused to consider the propost l ,h f.er t0 t.1,6.p.'ltl1cal ln,fln
tlon In any form, however, and lg- ?" v wo"'d ,n"c,rt at, th, Interview
nored Harrlman's demands.' Ho was il h' "A,.110?1 ,n?rd SI,,r' ?rnvat!,
warned that he would not be able to,w"c,J)"n1tJ, ,Mk,cd.'vI,uJ?
carry out his plans without Harrlman's ..'. rc. i!j"on U,hat hl d d; ' ,
ni,l Did he refer to the probability of
At the conclusion of Ityan's toatl-' 'c1l"'?.tl0 act,on al t,iat Eamo inicr
mouy, Chairman Armstrong thankid , ,.V, ,,,
him and said that ho had been recalled "!, .'" , nil. , ,,, .... .
oniy uccause mo cpmmitteo wanted to' .,,.'",'":. "7 r, ; ' """ "
get all the tacts. r I "' 5?J "? -WCro
Senator John F. Dryden of Now Jer;L?,' '" ,'"" " "A,,, . ever 0"po'
toy, president of the Prudential Insur'1"0,". ho eouU1 brln'i t0 " "I'on
nnco Company of America, was tailed,' .7. ,,,,, ,.
in tlm ullnnn ctnnrl nflai Tlnn 1a-)J l ulu
w ...v ..t.v-. K.H.... U..W. ..,,. IVIf
aud tho remainder of the da) was de-'
"And ion told him that vou Intend
ed that thn management of the Kqult
voted to the luvet luallnn of thin rom
pan), which, like the Metropolitan 1 If. C,V. f"!a h0 CHllrcIy Independent?'
Insiirnncc Compan) of tltUcltv and th ,.! L, ., ,, ', , .,.,
John Ham ock Company does an In . S !KS V'"" i . ,
duurlal l...slnei almost vvlioll) Tho e, JS,,cl,cndcllt of ,no and eerybol,
Prudential was shown to be ono of th . . . .
CHARLES EVANS HUGHES, INSURANCE INQUISITOR. I
ClmrloH Eviun Hugliex, who l probing life- lusurnii'u miiiingcmciit for tho
New YorL IfKlxhturo'x liismnino i-timmlKHlon N n untl e of (liens FnlN, X. y
and Is fort.v-thnv cnrK of ago. Ho t u griuli lo of I'.iown iiiilvcrsll) mid
rolumliln Ijivv hiIkd! and for two jimim vvoh ii tuto.- Its C n.iicll t nlversltj's I.nvv
school. "It Is not the mini who renrlicn the loiner Hut wlia wIiih," ho kii)k,
"but tho mun who knows exiutly vvhnt ho It gjiiu tu do when hu renehes the
or fifteen .
fice. Ho told me he had decided to buy I
tne stocK and said It was timo for him
to make n name for himself. Ho said!
ho had decided to buy Hyde's stock
I provided he could get his nominee'
elected chairman of the board. Ho tald !
' ho had made a good deal ot money and
I never had done an)thlng to make a
mime for himself 1 questioned his mo
tive He had told mo he wanted my
help, that I was the one man In New
llork whose help ho duslrcd "
"What kind of help?' nsked Mr
I "l'o help him get his nominee elect '
cd chnlrmamot the board," replied Mr.
A8l;c-il upon what grounds he had
criticised Mr. It J nn s plan, Mr Harri
man replied. "Well, It was rutne-r stag,
tvrlng to un)body tnat It) an wauteii lo
, control the Equitable or should have
control of It " I
I "1 told him," continued Mr. llarrl '
'man, "that It 1 was satisfied that ho
.was acting from a pure and nnhelliili
mutlvo In the interest of tho Equitable
'I would help him. Ho told me his
plan. I did not tell him then that I
wanted a share In the H)Uo stock. 1
assisted him to get his nominee elect
ed.' I "Why did you, If )ou were not sat
I failed as to tho purity of his mothca?'
asked Mr. Hughes. i
'I became satisfied that with Mr.
Morton In charge and If Mr. It)an were
sincere the affairs ot the Equitable
would be safe. I was convinced that
Mr. It j an was sluccre. 1 did not then
think Mr. It) an uould share the stock
with me." i
Made Harriman Angry.
"The next Interview with II) an was
the Monday following the purchase of
the 11) an stock," said tho witness.
' First, however, I told Mr Itjan I had
helped to elect President Morton.and
!l)an said he wanted to meet me and
after Morton was elected It) an called
me up and said he appreciated my help
and wanted me to continue, and paid
ho would do nothing further without
my consent and wanted to meet me. 1
mado an appointment to meet htm. At
11 o'clock Mr. Cravath eamo and said.
Ilyan was sorry he had to proceed with
out me I told Mr. Cravath I consid
ered this an act of bad faith, turned between Its Insldo factions, that Gov.
my back on Cravath and walked away, ernor Odell was not here, nor was he
Mr It) an later asked me to his offices communicated with about It so that ho
on Monday and meet Mr. Itoot had no hand In It whatever
"In that Interview with Cravath he q And during that period were )ou
(old me that Mr Itoot had Insisted on n consultation with members of tho
tho appointment of the trustees of the Legislature? A. Not specially
..Mmiuu.c- ui uiicu um un- anuuuiicv y , regard to Insurance matters?
ment In the morning paiKirs. That was' A t nad 10 maltcr watchcd at A1.
the first Intimation that Mr Il)an had bany to see what attempts were being
asked the trustees to act. I want jou mado to uso tho Legislature Improp
nil to understand that I have something cri- v v
besides life Insurance to do and thliiK, ovhon vou refer to tho hops.
:..: ..:. ,i,i"V. i rr.' ' .U..X ;,' a,,on 10 01'. vu mean becauso of
.vU..,a..,j.a n,.(v. . uaicuuiiuivvj ,, mnnv ImDnrtflnt mntforn In
wanted only to safeguard tho Eoult
)OU aro intciestcd for which
Mr IDan did not tell me at the :,., ,... ',1 '... ... .
flrnt lntcln- hnf h .,M for lh '"""' "..'"" "m" wa
iiViio iA,i .oeaiing with Legislators.
'Ml !SLt interview Hoot and Cra t?II7""l,.nli'," !"
vath were present. I Bald to Ilyan' 'You
want my co-operation?' ho said: 'Yes.
I osltlon referred to, a great many sub
jects that come beforo the Legisla
ture? A. :vo. I havo no special In-
Id: 'I will tako half of )our stock":' ,"-"" " ""'t" '
provided )ou will agree to the appoint- 1" ,, ' ,""K """ ul 'uu uu"
ment of two additional trustees, who
will bo absolutely Independent.'
"It) an refused, and told mo I had
promised to Ii4lp him If 1 was satisfied
I said this was my wa) ot being sntls
lied I do not remember what else I
said I ma) hnvo said what these gen
tlemen ra) l did I Intended, unless 1
was satisfied of his motives, to oppon)
tj Well, I was referring to matters
effecting railroads banks nnd trust
companies. A. No, I never had any
hand in that.
Mr. Hnrrlman said that when a mova
nas on foot lo glvo tho control ot tho
Kqultablo to James W Alexander and
Ms friends lij means of legislative ac-
hls control of the society nnd thought tltm al A'bany' ho wired certain per
It ought to bo stopped t knew whom h"n" nt Albany to keep him Informed
ho had selected as trustees, bu did not n' ' tno, PfOK"" ch proceedings
know his plan to illvctt himself of con ,,nl8nt mae- Asked who these per-
- i-uuii hi jiiuuuy were, ,ir iinrnman re-
jr ('.nested that ho be excused from nn-
The Best Of The Wheat
is represented by Novelty Mills Patent
trol of tho stock."
"Whv did nil nlilpcf ? "ntl(p,l
Hughes. bwcrlng. He said ho did not want to
"I wanted two truttees. Independent answer uecnuse no uiu not wnm to glvo
of Mr lt)an I think that an) tru "cnslon for sensational newspaper
lees named as Mr. Ryan named tne.n ' e'ailllne
must be to a certain extent under his ri,e commltteo nnd counsel, Mr
control, especially as he had named a I'lisbes, retired for consultation Mr.
man out ot his own organization as Harriman said ho should like to con
president. I did not demand a right '"'t beforo replying. Tho commltteo
to name two trustees, but merely tnai decided, however, that ho should an
they should be Independent of U)uu wcr, nnd he did so, sajlng that tho
I offered to turn my stock over to tho persons from whom he had requested
KOclcty If all did. tho information were Governor Illg-
"I don't see why he should not mako R'ns and tho lato Speaker Nixon, ot
the trustees number a hundred If hla jl'e Assembly,
natives wero pure. I was not a plill-l 'Only An Inquiry."
nnthroplst, and did not consider It such ' Q Did you suggest anything to
for him to pay $2,500,000 which he was them as to their attitude In the mat
going to get back when ho got control ter? A. No, sir.
of the society It was because of my' Q. Was It anything moro than a
Interest In the Equitable that I wanted moro Inquiry for official action? A,
a share Thero was no posslblllt) of That Is all, that they should, It any
a panic No one but H)an had such .i Ihlng, enmo lo their notice that they
view. I doubt whether ho had it." , fchould let mc know so that I could, It
() Did you tell him ho could not I thought desirable, havo a chanco to
succeed without )our help? A. I was bo hoard In tho matter not that I bo
coin I in ed that ho Intended to center henrd, that tho peoplo In tho Equlta
the control ot tho Equltablo In 111 in- bio who wero opposed to tho Alexan
iclf, and I told him that my Influence dcr faction might have an opportunity
would be thrown against him. I told to bo heard.
him I would uro every effort I could. Q. Hut, ns I understand It, )ou did
It was not so strenuous nn Interview, not suggest or request or Intimate thnt
It lasted ilftcen minutes. cither tho C-ovcrnor or tho Bpeakcr
Q Did you refer to legislative ao- idiould tako any position or commit
tlon or Bay anything about tho Lcgls- himself with refcrenco to tho matter
Iaturo? A. I do nor recall any such ono way or tho other? A. No. sir.
thing, nor that I would do anything Q You Blraply wanted to bo advls-
to Induce legislation.
positively that t did.
Bread made with it cannot be otherwise than pure,
honest flour and makes an honest loaf.
It is an
I cannot deny cd? A I wanted to bo advised.
I dont kno.v O You never wero advised
stronscjt of the companies In Now Jcr I "''' no threaten an) action by offl
be), controlling tho Union Dank. In "r of tho Stale 10!!?'
Icroitcd deeply In tho public service He did not
corporation, to whU h It madu onormous Mr Itjnn testified that Hnrrlman of
loans, and In practical control ot thu fercd If Mr Hyan would sell, to put his
I idellty Trust Company. s'larc of the Equitable Into a trust
Dulled States Senator Drj den admit- ".My conversation with him wn-i'
led pa) merits amounting ,to $20,000
made to the Republican National Cam
jmlgii Commltteo In the last tluco Prcs
Uentlal campaigns Payments had
iilto been mado to Andrew Hamilton
lor legislative work dono h) him Thr
character ot tho business douo wni
Miowu 10 nc similar 10 that or tho Met
lopolltan life with the samo execs
elve premiums In weekly Installment!
Vnd tho Bamo largo percentage of
Ji)uu nun uiu nnsi witness Of lll
"What did Mr Harriman say to von
about sharing Iho II) do stock?' asked' Now York' nw 15 Wall street's
Mr. Hughes, counsel for tho committee. c,oso Interlinking relations w(th tho
"Immedtatel) after my purchase pf political, oxecutlve and leglslativo pow
tho stock," said Mr, Ilyan, "Mr Har- cr of the State of Now York were
rlman called ou mc. Wo had several clearly revealed today l) tbo testimony
conversations. Mr Harrlmau said that ot l: II Harriman, who voluntarily
I should not have come Into the sllua- appeared upon tUe witness etnnd to
tlon without consulting him, and thai 'ac the charges mado against him by
I ought to let him have an equal Bhars Thomas r. II) an. 1
ftrenuous," ha Id Mr Ilyan 'I think
lie fluid ho did not want nii)bod) to
lontrol this property unlets ho had n
tbnvo in It .Mr Hurrlmnn did not ray
ur thing Indicating what aitlon tho
I eilslature would tnke No other per
bon mado any such thrcaU '
Will TELLS i
Si OF HIE STORY
There is no purer flour milled in the United States than
The wheat is grown under the most favored circumstances;
it is ground by the most approved scientific device and the product
is flour which is a credit to the greatest nation on the face of the
Abounding in gluten, bread, cake and pastry 'made from
N it is nourishing and life-giving and, withal, as toothsome as can be.
CALIFORNIA FEED CO., LTD.
frpHhnAWfiiWtoWWl?! f&fiWanihit&wai&A fijftJfHmfhlDij
that It would havo been proper. Every- cuuse nothing took place? A. Noth
u.ij iwikiy mui me wouiu ua icgisia- ing took place.
tlon on tho mntter. If I recollected It, Mr Hughes asked what Mr. llarrl
I would be perfectly willing to tell It. 'man did at Albany to prevent tho mu
Q Did )ou tako any steps to thwart tualliatlon of tho Equltablo. Mr. Har
ms plans. A Not yet. I had no con- rn,an pbjectcd to telling, but Mr.
t creation with Governor Odcll nbout Hughes Insisted, and Mr. Harriman
advisability of a legislative Investlga- taj tliat In tho Equltablo trouble Mr.
tlon nor about any kind of legislation n)uo ofrcrea to trustee tho stock, as
whatever. I knew nothing about this i,.;an ju inter
M,8,lu'!,,iHnmWh0t0.v.e,; ' A subcommittee of the Equltablo
nmi 1 .1 1 t ii?1'1 ,0 l8 ,'? I'0""" had recommended mutualliatlon. It
f,ni,i!i- . ?l,'l,not,?0.l"l.d.cr " lm'as put Into tho hands of lawyers to
Z l""11 h'8 ,,ollllcal ",n"eDC0 take caro of this at Albany,
against ltynn. , . Tho Acxandcr fnction went to Al-
Nothing Improper In II) an's con- bany to oppose tho plan," Bald tbo wit
duct of tho Equltablo haB )ct como to ness, "and Mr Piatt went thero to rep
my attention," ho said, "and I have not uscnt a commltteo of policy holders,
had time to attend to It If anything I was neutral, not with either faction,
had omo to my attention I would havo 1 was In communication with men who
actcu- wero to Inform mo If thero wns any
Q What Is jour political Influence? possibility of tho Alexander faction
A It Is such as nny man of proml succeeding. I do not want to tell )oii
wint tno) roporieu. Tiioro.wns no uiu
Introduced. I took stops with sonfo
iLcmbors ot tho Legislature to let mo
know It a bill was introduced."
Mr. Hughes brought out tho stato
irent that Mr. Harriman did not pre
vent n bill being Introduced and ho
was not Informed thnt a bill was go
ing to ha Introduced.
ponce has who has nover nsked anv
thing improper I hnve greot Inter
ests In New York nnd am ortcn con
(.lilted Mr Hughes asked how ho was con
futed I "I had to do with preventing bills
Nni being Introduced In the l.i'glnhi
turo by one faction In tho Equltablo
to get control of the soclct)." 1 Mr Ilarrlmin, ou leaving tho wt-
1 Q It baa bctn charged that nebs stand, said that his reason for
through )our relation with Mr. Odell warning to keep Governor Htgglns'
) 011 havo political Influence.. What and Speaker Nixon's nnmes out ot tha
would jou nn as to that? A Well, icwspaper headlines Is thnt most pco
I should think Mr Odcll had political plo read only tho headlines. Mr. liar
Influence because of his relations with rluui'n was then excused.
1.10," replied Mr Harriman. (Laugh ' ,, . ,
'7 few minutes later in his tesl, I SCtt TellS Of The
niony, .Mr Harrlmau returned lo thoi Drnvirtant Qotinrro
rubject of foimer Governor Odell and H UYlUClll OaYillgO
political Influence, nnd said: I
1 "Mr Hughes, )ou spoko about Gov- New York Dec, H. Palo with pas
ernor Odell mid my having political (Ion, bis volco quivering so ns to ran
influcnco becauso of my relations or 1 iler him almost Incoherent and appar
affiliation with him. I would like to cntly upon tho ergo of bjaterla, E.
say that all last spring during tho con-'Scott, President of the Provident Savv
tiovcrsy, tho Equitable controversy, (Continued on Pago 10)
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