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I'lirlMlnu Hclenru mid the turo of
the Minnie who (lie topics of discus
tlun nl tlio liieclltiK of the Bonnie
Health Committee with tho Medical
fiiK'Icly last night. In addition to tho
metiiticis of Hie romtiiltton there wcro
present -sctcrn of the must promi
nent physicians of the city, IncluilJnK
Dorlois Cooper, Wiiyson, IlodKlns,
lirlmkerhoff and IVtcrson, Senator
The Christian Scientists hnd had
their InnliiK the iiIrIiI before, and
Inst lilaht the doctors exiiressed their
views on the subject In no uncertain
terms. Tlio opinion was expressed
by somo of them that to exempt
Christian Scientists from the prnvl
elniM of llo medical bill would ho to
iniujcct tlio Territory to n cry Krnve
datiKer from tho possibility (If the en-
tiancc of yellow fever or tome other
The first matter taken up for ills
Mission was House Hill mi, relating
to the miiuiiRcuipnt and contml of
the Iusano Asylum. JuiIro Perry,
who drew up tlio bill, appeared In tho
Interests of those for whom hedrew
It, to defend It.
.IiiiIro Perry made an explanation
of the bill. Ho said that the men for
whom he had drawn tho bill tlioiiRlit
that In vlow of tho large nmoiint of
money expended In the enro of tho
Insane, the additional expenditure
requited by tho provisions of tho bill
vould not bo too much to spend. Tlio
in n in Idea, he said, is that tliroo heads
aie better than one, Olio man Is lia
ble lo Ret into n rut. The additional
expenditure would amount to $900 n
cur, yif a month for each of tho
three physicians. This Is not much,
but milled to the honor of belnR on
the iloard, Is probably enough to In
duce physicians to perform the du
Senator Smith was of the opinion
that there, ought to bo n business in nil
on the Hoard. Perry replied that it
Is not proposed to tnko away from
the Iloard of Health the business
iiiniinRcmcnt of the Asylum, but only
that the physicians shall havo com
plcto control of the medical treatment
of the Inmates, Smith showed him
that the bill does not say so, nnd
I'crry replied that any verbal amend
incut to that effect would be accept
HIM. OK i'O 1IKNEF1T
Smith said the care of tlio Insane
requires tho care of medical men of
the highest moral and medical nt'
tnlninents. He said lie could not seo
thnt the bill would bo of any benefit.
Perry urged that the bill was roe
ommended by tho Grand Jury.
Smith Insisted thnt he could not
tee that tho bill wns any Improve
incut over the present sjstcui. Ho
ridci, ho said, wouldn't It divide tho
nuthorlty? I'erry thought not.
CONFLICT Or AUTHORITY
Dr. Peterson, the resident physl
ilan and superintendent of tho In-
nine Asylum, iislied to bo heard on
tho subject. As resident physician,
ho sild, ho could seo how thn Hoard
would co mo Into conflict with tho
Ho said there would inevltnbly bo
n conlllct or authority, no supposcn
ii case of a niairbcliiR ordered Into re
straint as dangerous liy tlio Hoard of
Managers nnd the next day tho con
ditions might change. In that case
the resident physician would jvant to
1 dense him, nnd there would bo a
conflict of authority rlRht there.
"Tho treatment changes," ho said.
"There lias not been a day In tho last
two years that 1 have boon nway
from thnt asylum for, three hours."
Smith said that ho did not believe
that tho earn of all the patients
tliould ever bo left to one resident
"That may well be," replied Pe
terson, "but to think of having n
consulting Iloard that meets once In
two wcelts to regulato tho uffalrs of
the asylum Is simply ridiculous.
"Under present clrcumstnncca and
with prcscut appropriations you can
not glvo hospital treatment in that
i.syliini. If I am ordered to glvo
ome certain patient separate treat
ment, to scRrcRote him, what nm I
going to do with the other 26? There
bio no trained mirues, no hospital fa
cilities. I ugrco that It would ,bo u
good thing to hnvo a board of con
cultliig physicians, but under this
bill there Is bound to be n ctnsli of
nuthorlty between the two boards."
Perry couldn't sec it that way, "Bo
long ns men retnln their common
souse," ho said, "thcro Is no room
for n conflict of nuthorlty."
Dr. IlodKlns sided with Dr, Peter
mhi, Ho said tljero was bound to bo
a conflict of authority. A board of
physician! mooting every two weoks
cannot glvo the treatment that n res
ident physician can.
"Do )nit know'," nsked Perry, "thnt
the bill requires them tn meet nR oft
en ns may be necessary7"
"In that case they would havo to
meet tvo or three times n day," ro
A KTAT.'.tl?MT fit" IWPT
Superintendent Plnkhnni nsked to I
ho henrd, "Under our piescnl limit
rd .ipproprlntlon," ho said, "tho
guards arc working contrary to Inw
They nro working twcUo hours n day
Instead of eight."
Smith appealed displeased nt the
mention of money In connection with
tho euro of tho insane, "That argil
inenl does not appeal to mo at nil,"
"It Is simply u statement of fact,"
Dr. Peterson snld that the Insnno
Asylum here Is turning nut ns 'high
n proportion of cured as nny asylum
on the Const.
WAYBON'S 1 1)1. A
Dr. Vn)son thought tho best thing
to do would Im to give tho resident
physician nn assistant. "If joii want
to Ret tho best results," he said,
"simply add one more man and you
will he doing the best for the pa
tients. As for this bill, 1 knew it
wns introduced for purely personal
I canons, and It Is simply ridiculous
In Its provisions.'
Till: MKDICAI. HIM.
House Hill 91, the medical bill,
wns next taltcn up. Dr. Hudgns was
tho first one to speak on It,
"Tho Christian Scientists,' ho said,
"claim that wo nro shutting them
out. Why should we not shut them
out? All we ask is that nn)onn who
practices medicine should qualify to
do so. Wo don't enro whether they
practice Christian Sqlc-iico or Dowlc
Ism or nny other ism.
"Tho Christian Scientists don't
know anything about diagnosis. Let
us suppose thnt one of them gets tho
rmnllpox. Ho Immediately calls in
one ol his own cult. Thnt ono does
n't know It is smallpox, for ho can't
diagnose It. Ho comes nwny from
the sick one, comes down town, nnd
scatters smallpox germs among sev
eral hundred people.
"Wo nre not trying to protect tho
medical profession, ns somo pcoplo
think. All we ask Is that nny cino
treating tho sick shall qualify so ho
can diagnose sickness.
"Wo nre not striking nt tho Jnpan
tso alone in this hill. Hut I have
heard several examinations of Japan
ese physicians through nn interpre
ter, nnd I" know It Is absolutely Im
possible to give n fair examination in
tho Japaneso language."
CHRISTIAN SCICNCK AND LAW
Smith nsked him how many States
nllow Christian Scientists to practice
ns physicians. Hodglns roforrcd tho
question to Dr. Cooper, who stntcd
thnt ho had with him n book issued
by the American Medical Association
giving the medical laws of all tho
Smith wanted to know If tho Knn
i..ib law does not mention Christian
Scientists by name. Dr. Coopor read
the law referred to, showing thnt
there Is no mention of Christian Sci
entists, though It Is provided that'
nothing in the act shall bo construed
iih Interfering with religious belief In
tho treatment of disease, provided
that tho quarantine, regulations of
tho Hoard of Health are not Infrlng
In legnrd to tho bill uudor discus
plot), Dr. Cooper said it wns not in
tended tn hit nt anybody In particu
lar, but the medical men of tho Ter
ritory, ivs n body of ilrogross, wants
to bo on equal footing with those of
other Stntes. Ho cited tho require
ments for entrances into tho princi
pal medical colleges, stating thnt tho
standards nre being raised in nil tho
PltKSKNT LAW A DISORACB
"Tho present act that stands on
tho books," snld the doctor, "Is u dis
grace. It ia ns full of holeH iih ii
ileve. Tho present bill is intended
to placo us on a par with other
States in the prnctlco of medicine."
Smith asked Cooper what ho
thought of tho statement mado by tho
Christian Scientists at tho meeting
of the night before, thnt almost ev
ery State countenances tho practice
of Christian Science.
"I don't bellevo it, sir," replied
Cooper said he did not think there
is a medical man in tho Territory
who would object to any ono practic
ing anything he pleased, provided ho
had tho preliminary and final edu
cational qualifications of u physician,
Dnwsett wnnted to know If tho act
would prohibit Christian Sclontlsts
praying over thoir patients provided
they did not use drugs.
"Not iib far as I nm concerned," ro
Smith lend n tcclon fiom the Con
gressional Act l elating to tho prnc
tlco of uiedlcliio In the Indian Terri
tory, exempting fiom. the provisions
of medical law Christian Sclontlsts,
etc. lie said tho overwhelming ma
jority of tho States nro abandoning
their opposition to Chrtstlnu Science.
WHAT IS IT?
Wuyroii asked: "What h Christian
Sclcnco, anyway? 13 It something
unknown, nn unknown qunntlty,
loundod upon tho Illblo?"
"You tiiti'l iliio It ) Inn." rn
PIIihI Smith. "I ilim'l know."
"Well, don't )oii think you legis
lators otiahl lo look rlovly enough
into such nti lniHitlniit question na lo
II ml nut wlint Christian Science la?"
Dr llrlnrkerhorr of Ihe Ma Hint
MimIImI Hervli,. ii,il.n nil (ho Still-
IJrct. "It seems In mo," Im said,
"that a tory ImiKirUnt point has
"'' ""l "'K,u " ;
Tho mnlli object
In passing it medical Inw Is tn pro
tut the health of tho community. It
Is not n question of religious holler.
"n order to protect tho communi
ty adequately, tho Iloard of Health
must hac the co-opration of certain
Individuals tho'o who nro cnllcd tn
tho bedside of the sick. Thcso per
sons must bo capable of taking euro
of (ho sick, or tho Hoard of Health
will not be nble tn know when somu
ono Is sick with nn Infectious dis
ease. Tho Important thing to do Is
lo sec that the poisons who nro call
ed tn the bcdsldo nt the sick aru
those who will rciognlza nn Infec
tious dlsenso when they seo It nnd
will rcjmrl It.
CHRISTIAN SCIBNCK DA NOCUOUS
"If wo nro to light disease, wo
must keep nwny from the bcdsldo nt
tho sick those who will fail to recog
nize nnd rc'port nn Infectious dis
ease. This mentis tho Christian Sci
entists, It seems tn mo thnt tho law
makeis will bo making n gloat mis
take If they fall to safeguard tho
health of tho community. These al
lowances thnt are mndo by Legisla
tures and by Congress nro n very renl
danger when they allow Individuals
to set themselves up against that ab
solute Inw of nnturo, to apply Inw
which they get from tho Interior of
their heads. I spenk feelingly on
this subject, for I hnvo seen chlldicn
dlo on nccount of Christian Science.
To nllow n person who knows noth
ing about dlsenso to sit by nnd watch
n child die of diphtheria while thorn
Is such a thine ns anti-toxin it In
r.candnlous; It Is ridiculous."
CHRISTIAN SCIKNCil AND
Dr. Sinclair was of tho opinion
that there Is too much of n glamor
thrown around this mntter, because
the laws of tho United Stntes say
tlier.) shall be no Interference with
icllgtous bcller, "The snlne claims
were mado for polygamy years ago,"
ho said, "and yet polygamy Is now
forbidden by tho laws. And I bo-
llovo the time will como when Chris
tian Science will bo in tho Bnmo cate
gory ns polygamy.
DANOEU OK YKLI.OW FBVHH
"Thcro Is u grnvo danger threaten
ing this Territory. Thnt is yellow
fever. If wo leavo n loophole In this
law, there Is danger of a terrible epi
demic of this disease.'
Smith wanted to know why It Is
that so ninny Stntes nnd advanced
communities nllow Christian Science
to be practiced.
"It Is because the nnino of religion
Is connected with It," ropllcd Wny
Dr. Cooper mndo n suggestion in
regard to homeopaths. "As their
text books," ho said, "nro tho samo
as those of tho other schools, except
for tlio materia medlca nnd practise.
It seems to me thcro ought to bo
somo provision Inserted In tho bill
for tho non-oxnmlnatlon of home
opaths in theso two subjects or clso
by reputable homeopathic plilcl.n:s
chosen by tlio Hoard of Mil leal Exam
iners to uct with them."
Regarding tho matter of examina
tions in tlio English language, Dr.
Cooper thought thcro Is no good rea
son why u Japanese should bo exntn-
lued In the Jupancso lnnguago any
uoro than Russians or Germans or
Frenchmen In their languages. "Wo
nro part of the United States," ho
snld, "and wo ought to conform to
tho laws nnd customs of tho United
In regard to examinations In tho
.Japaneso language, Dr. WnyBon said
it Is absolutely Impnsslblo to get nil
accurate Interpretation of technical
terms fiom English Into Japaneso or
from Jiipnucsc into English.
tm m '
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, for Curios.
HOTEL, NEAR FORT.
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