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EVHNINa BULLETIN, HONOLULU, T. II.. ntlDAY, JAN 15, 1900,
GOVERNOR WANTED RIGHT OF
OFFICAL BE HEARD
INTERESTING COMMENT OF SENATORS ON PROVISION OF PROPOS
ED AMENDMENTS TO ORGANIC ACT FRANCHISES AND
PAYMENT OF TAX TO MUNICIPALITY
Governor 1'reiir'tt statement beforo ilo not expect to lime any illlllciilty.
Senate Conimlttco on Pacific Islands. If nny Iicml o( n department under
(Continued from Thursday) 'me la not satisfactory. I expect him
. Governor l'rear Yen. I might tu leave without being removed.
make n correction there. Of course. The Chairman 1 think In most of
It makes n illffcrenco whether )ou our Slates where tho power of lemov-
lucliicle simply tho territorial officials
or thu federal officials. I Bupposo jou
mean to exclude customs nnd Internal
icvcnuo and poslofllce officials.
Tho Chairman I had no very In
telligent Idea In asKIng my ques
tion. I wanted In get at how tho
linlancc stood, how much tliero is In
jour rnor as nffectlng tho question
of jour receipts and dlshurBcments.
Governor l'rear If jou tako all
'the postmasters and collectors of cus.
tims and lntcrnnl-rovenuo collectors
In tho scrvico of tho 1'cdernl Govcrn
ment proper, tho amount would of
course exceed $100,000, but so far
as territorial officials are concerned,
1 think It would not amount to mora
llinn $50,000, besides which tho Ted
enil tiovcrnmcut appropriates now
$30,00i) eery second jear toward leg
Removals From Office
. Tho Chairman Aro thorn any fur
ther remarks that jou want to make,
i Governor Krear I might call at
tention to section 0 The main pur
JlKibu of that section Is to permit tho
, Jfjjn'vernor to remove officers without
(requiting tho consent of tho Scnato.
jffAf proscnt ho Is required to luivo tho
i consent of tho Scnato for removals as
wnll as for appointments A roqulro-
niont of tho consent of the Senate to
'removo oftlcers was Inserted In view
of conditions arising out of the over
throw of. the monarchy, but I think
It Is no longer necessary. It is ob
, Joctlonablo In prlnclplo and. as a
matter of fact, it has created n good
deal of trouble.
Tho Chairman Do you think tho
governor should ho allowed to remove
' from offlco nrhltinrlly without causo
- being Bhown?
Governor Prenr Well, I think so:
j. but I am not particular upon that
point. So far as I am concerned, I
rpHK MAYFLO.WER QUARTZ & CHANNEL MINING COMPANY proposition today. What I have been
-- telling you is cither true or it isn't. Either Facts or Fairy Talcs' I say that they arc FACTS, and I have
the proofs in my office Maps, U.S. Geological Reports, Ore specimens from the different veins, and Photographs
of the Mine and our twenty stamp Mill. Then talk with Honolulu men who have yisitcd the property who will
tell you that all you sec in the Photographs is there and more. You owe it to yourself to Investigate this propo
sition from top to bottom, to look it through and through.
Supposing you let this Opportunity go by. When "MAYFLOWER" goes to $1.00 bid and sellers as soaree as hen's teeth, you will advise your friends that you could have
bought it at 25 Cents and made a stack on it. You've probably retailed the same yarn about "Engcls Copper." You did not accumulate that when going at a quarter per. Take
my advice and don't slip up on this chance. BUY "MAYFLOWER" STOCK. BUY IT NOW! It's an investment, not a speculation. Mayflower is a sure popproposition. Both
the little fellow and the big fellow cm make money on this deal. They get proportionate profits, Hurry up and connect with a block of this stick. The "MAYFLOWER" has no
gamble frills on it. It's no dream, or rainbow painting. It's no crazy prospecting scheme, where you stick your money into the ground, and get nothing but a hole to look at. It's
exactly what it purports to be a real gold mine. Investigate, look into! t. BUY "MAYFLOWER" STOCK. BUY IT NOW. i I 1 I t t.
No product in the world compares with gold, in steadiness of demand and evenness of price. Silver, Conpcr, Iron, Zinc, Lead, and other metals go up and down. The
pioducts of Factory and Farm fluctuate with the seasons. But Gold Bullion commands one price the world over. Good times, hard times, all times the world takes all that is
offered, at the high market price. We've a large bullion crop awaiting further development, and the starting up of our Mill. Dividends will then be in order. Do you want any
of them made out to your order? If so, favor me with an early call, or a billet-doux with check enclosed. BUY "MAYFLOWER" STOCK. BUY IT NOW!
nl is given to the governor it Is upon
cause being shown. 1 know that Is
the case In my own State.
Gocrnor l'rear I hmo no objec
tion to Hint at all.
Tho Chairman I had to remove In
one or two Instances, but I hud to
glva tho parties notice and glvo
thoni a chanco to bo heard In answer
to tho charges that wcro preferred.
Governor Krcar Vcs.I would havo
no objection to that, but tho present
provision Is objectionable, because
theio Is a period of two jenra bo
tweon sessions of tho sonnte, mid It
ought to bo posslblo to remove an of
ficer. If necessary, during that tlmo
without having to cnll n special Bca-
slon of tho senate, at an oxpenso of
several thousand dollars.
I simply wnnt to avoid tho difficul
ty which would iirUo In not uctng
nblo to remove a person during vaca
tion. Govcinor Dolo got Into grcnt
difficulty that way. Ilo was forced
to appoint a number of porbons wlto
aftcrwnrds proved to ho embezzlers or
otherwlso objectionable, and hi
hands wero tied.
Tho Chairman I bellevo jou havo
touched upon every ono of tho bee
tions unless It Is section 8.
Governor Krenr Tho mnln object
of section 8 Is to disqualify a judge
who has been of counsel In a case, the
supreme court of Hawaii having held
that Hint Is not a disqualification.
There are other minor changes. At
tho Bitme time it gives the legislature
authority to add other causes, bo
that If any others should bo required
I' will not be necessary to go to Con
With tho permission of tho commit
tee, I will file a more ni doily nifd dot.
Tho Chairman Governor, havo
jou looked civet thefcu franchise hills
M. IVAN DOW,
Fiscal Agent Mayflower Mine
sufficiently to huvo an opinion as to
whether or not they should bo favor
ably reported by this committee?
Governor Krenr I have not had
time to examine them very carefully
In all their details. If 5 on desire It,
I will preparo a statement on tho sub
ject nnd send It to tho committee.
Tho Chairman NVo shall bo glad
to have you do so,
WALTER F. FREAR.
GOVERNOR OF HAWAII
Mr. l'rear 1 havo carefully exam
ined tho above-mentioned bills nnd
am of the opinion that they should
be enacted by Congress with the
nmendment that has been inndo or
proposed In committee. Theso nro
comparatively small communities,
nnd electric light and power scrvico
will bo of groat benefit to them. Tho
franchises aro of no very groat value.
They nro neither exclusive nor per
petual, and their exerclso Is carefully
guarded by tho provisions of the blllJ.
It Is fortunate that companies nro
willing to tnko the risk of putting in
tho necessary plant nnd suppljlng
light nnd power.
GEORGE B. M'CLELLAN
Tho Chalrmnn Mr. MiClcllan, jou
hao licforo jou tho bill (S. 7097)
to ratify an act of tho legislature of
tho Tcriltory of llawnll authorizing
tho manufacture and distribution of
electric light and powor In tho ills
trlct of Lahalnn, Territory of 11a
wall, nnd tho bill (S. 7098) to intl
fy and confirm an ait of tho legisla
ture of tho Territory of Hawaii au
thorizing tho mnmifucturo and dis
tribution of electric light and power
in tho district of Walluku, Territory
Will jou kindly explain those hills,
tho neccbslty for them, nnd glvo rea
sons why thoy should bo reported fa
vorably by this conimlttco?
Mr. McClellan Sennto bill -7G97 Is
an act to provide a plant for supply
ing electric light and power In tho
town of l.ahnlna In tho Island of
Maul, This bill was passed by tho
leglslatuio of. tho Territory of Hawaii
and under the provisions of tho or
ganic act necessarily conies hero for
appitival, The act was nppioed by
Governor Caiter, Hie then governor
of tho Tetrltorj'.
Tho act states In dotall what tho
icgtilatlons shall bo for the placing
of the wlies on tho streets. It pro
vides that all of their location and
regulation shall be under tho author
It) of tlm officials who have thnigo
of tho HtieotH urn! mads. It gives
specific authority to those officials to
add to and amend these tules regu
Suite 51 te 52 Alexander Young Bid
Call, Write or Phone for a Frospeotus
lating the placing of poles, wires, In
sulation, and so on.
Section i provides that theso lines
shall also bo operated so as not to
Interfere with the uso of tho Btrccts.
Section S provides that thoy shall
llkowlso bo subject to tho Inspection
of tho officials of tho board, nnd then
provision la rondo for tho placing ol
meters for measuring tho power sup
plied. In section C thcro Is a provision
"That power Is hereby conferred
upon tho courts of npproprlnto juris
diction at all times and upon tho peti
tion of nny consumer of tho company
to hear and dctcrmlno from tlmo to
tlmo whether nn existing rato or
rates Is or nro unreasonable, and if
a rnto bo unreasonable, to order the
Bnmo to bo decreased, and to enforco
such orders by appropriate Judgment
Tho original thought was that It
might bo we'll to fix maximum rates
for this servlco, hut when tho com
mittee of tho House nttomptcd to go
Into that matter they wcro utterly
unablo to arrive at nny basis which
thoy thought would bo sufficiently
largo to enable a company to under
tnko the putting In of a plant and
furnishing light and power on nn as-
surcd basis "of profit without making
It so high that it would bo n pro
sumption against tho consumer and
so would In tho ond work against tho
Interest of the consumer.
Thoreforo thoy thought best to
lenvo it in this form so that nny con-
sumer would havo an nppcal to tho'
local court, Bo this clauso was put
In to safeguard tho question of rates.
Tho Chairman That clauBo was
put In In tho National llouso of Hop--rosentatlvos?
Mr. McClellan In tho House of
Representatives. Tho other provis
ions aro of dotall, giving tho com
pany tho right to acqulro, hold, or
tako over such property as may ho
necessary nnd Incidental to tho prop
er conduct of its business.
Section 9 nlso gives this Lahnlna
company tho power to borrow monoy
and to Usuo bonds by mortgage.
Tho Chairman For what longth of
tlmo is this franchise grantod?
Mr. McClellan That Is covorcd
In a later section.
Tho Chalrmnn Oh, I see.
Mr. McClelfan Section 10 pio
vldes "That Bald company, its represent
atives, successors, nnd nsslgns, shall
be losponslblo for any damugos, olth
oi to person or property, resulting
fiom nny net of negligence on its
pint, which may occur by lenson of
tho xcirlso of nny of tho pilvllogcH
hcieln gi anted."
Section 11 provides that the char
ter may bo forfeited for noncompli
ance with Its terms upon action of
the local authorities or by tho attor
ney general of the Territory upon
showing that tho company Is not fur
nishing ndequato service or not com
piling with tho conditions of its
Senator 12 Is tho answer to tho
main objection that Senator Clay
raised to this bill. Senator Clay
said, "You arc Issuing a frnnchlso to
a particular company" -which Is
true "fin tho exclusive uso of tho
in h liege of furnishing light to this
(omniunltj." Section 12 provides
"It Is hcicby expressly provided
that nothing herein contnlned shall
be so const rued as to grant tho com
pany an exclusive right to furnish,
sell, or supply electric light and powr
So tho Senator was absolutely mis.
trken In his Idea as to tho scopo of
Then the next section provides that
tho company shall pay 1 per cent of
the gross receipts of tho company nil
nunlly to the local government for
benator Warner If any compen
sation at all Is to bo provided, Is that
considered ns being an adequate com
pensation for a franchlso?
Mr. McClellan Ono per cent of
gross receipts Is equivalent to at
least S per cent of net receipts, nnd
Is, I think, fully ndequato. So far
as this franchlso Ib concerned, 1
would say that It Is for n community
o' about 2500 pcoplo. A franchlbo to
furnish electric light for a commu
nity of 2500 peoplo. which Is scat
tered over a cry wide nrca. Is so
small that I would say it Is tho
Judgment of peoplo In Honolulu that
nothing but local Interest would lead
lecal capital to go Into It at nil. I
do not bellevo jou can get a dollar
of capital from Honolulu even to go
Into this proposition, It is simply to
'cnnblo tho local pcoplo to havo a
company thoro carried by local cap!
tal to supply them light. As It is,
thoy enn not get this servlco and
thoy can not bocuro tho right for nny
company to supply It without this
prlvllqgo being granted by Congress,
The Clinlrmnn How far is Lahal
nn fiom Honolulu?
Mr. McClellan About 60 miles.
Governor Krear It Is 70 miles.
Mr. McClellan It Is on tho Uland
Tho Chairman This will bo an Is.
olatcd plant then? It has no rela
tion to Honolulu?
Mr McClellan Absolutely none.
So far ns I am peisonally concerned,
I am simply speaking' on behalf of
tho Delegate. That company havo nollj no term, and there' Is'nbsolutely no
them, because tho thing Is not worth
attorney hero at all to represent
enough to them to Justify thctn In
employing an attorney hero.
Senator Warner Lnhalna is a
town of 2500 people?
Mr. McClellan A llttlo town of
2S00 pcoplo. As a mattor of fact, I
think thoy should havo a franchlso
thero without paying anything in a
small community llko this, becnuso
It can not bo a very profitnblo propo
sition, as there aro not enough pcoplo
The Chairman Who gets the 1 per
cent, the municipality?
Mr. McClellan The Superintendent
of Public Works. It goes to the Ter
ritory. The Chairman It ought to be paid
to the municipality, I should think, If
It It paid to anybody.
Senator Warner That Is what I
The Chalrman-rAII over our part of
the country we Impose taxes, but they
go to the benefit of the locality rather
than to the State.
Senator Milton I think the govern
or said that all revenue went to the
General Government and then It was
returned In certain directions.
Tho Chairman It Is all right us
It Is, perhaps, Mr. McClellan, this
bill has In this form passed the
Mr. McClellan It passed tho
House In this form, Senator.
Tho Chairman And came to tho
Mr. McClellan Yes.
Tho Chairman And this conimlt
tco was polled, and on a poll reported
favorably on tho bill?
Mr. McClollan, Yes.
Tt, riKni .,.,.. T-l.., ...!. It ,.nn
up In tho Scnato somo objections wora
raised by Senator Clay, which you
havo just beon pointing out wcro not
Sir. McCollan Yes.
, Tho Chairman No ono seemed to
be' familiar onough with tho bill nt
tho moment to explain it satisfactor
ily. Mr. McClellan Senator Clay was
undor tho Impression that this was a
franchlso for thlrty-flvo yenrs. In
answer to your question, Mr. Chair
man, I will state that there Is no
term nt all provided in the bllj." The
last Bectlon provides
"That Congress, or tho legislature
of the Territory of Hawaii with the
approval of Congress, may at any
tlmo alter, amend, or repeal said
That Is the form of all tho fran
chises which have been given by
CnngresH since tho organic net has
rcquliod nn Indorsement by Con-
Kiess of local franchises. So thero
Buy It Now
nionopoly In this bill nnd In tho Wal
luku bill. They nro privileges for
small communities which havo no
means of securing electric light, and
tho representations niado to the leg
Ulaturo woro that tho only means of
getting nny company to undertake
the matter was to havo a franchise
of this sort passed. Thoreforo tho lo
cal legislature was satisfied and pass
ed both measures.
Now, I wnnt to call attention, tu
connection with Sonntor Clio's ob
jection, to tho fnct that ono of theso
Tho Chalrmnn lleforo jou leave
that, wo have embodied hero tho bill
passed by tho legislature of Hawaii
as amended by tho House. What la
thcro hero to Imllcnto what has been
added to what tho legislature of Ha
Mr. McClellan I can brlolly out
line tho chnnges which woro made In
tho llouso of Hcprcscntatlves in tho
bill as It was passed by tho legisla
ture In tho first place, thero wero
a number of pro forma amendments.
Tho bill a sit passed tho legislature
gave tho regulation of tho affalis In
tho streets to tho superintendent of
public works of tho Tcrrltnrj-. In tho
Interim betweon tho pnssago of tho
bill by tho legislature and tho action
hero county govornmont had been es
tablished, and thcroforo It heinnio
necessary to chnngo that phraseology
In order to provldo for tho now otll-
Then tho original net ns passed by
tho legislature gavo n term of thlrty
flvo yonrs. That was cllmlnnted hern
In tho Houso of Representatives and
left simply with tho powor to icpeal
nt any tlmo.
Then tho Houbo of Representative!!
ollmlnntcd tho fixed rntcs which had
beon determined by tho leglslaltito
and Instead Inserted this provision
to have tho rate subject to regula
tion by tho courts.
Scnntnr Warnor That Is, they fix
ed a rato and it may bo changed by
Mr. McClellan Nn; thoro Is "'
rnto fixed. That was eliminated.
Thero Is a minimum rato,
Senator Warnor What section
(To Be Continued.)
DOLLAR FOR 200 CHILDREN.
Bloomlngton, III,, Jan 1. John T.
aoltmuchor, a Chicago Roaid of Trado
oporator, today gavo n savings bank
account with ono dollar credited to
onch of 200 poor children, In order to
glvo them nn object lesson In tho valim
of snlng. Tho gifts onmo In connec
tion with tho annual dinner piovlded
ten yonrs ago by thu will of his de
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