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DIGGING FOE FACTS
THE POTTER COMMITTEE STILT, TRY-
ING TO REACH THE BOTTOM,
Crosa-Ezaml nation of Ex-Congressman Dai
rail by Ben ButlerHe Makes a Good
Many Queer .Statements, But Sticks to It
That Sherman's and Matthews' tetters
Were the Open Sesame to Office-Other
WASHINGTON, June 12.The Potter investi
gating committee resumed its sessions to-day,
Mr. Morrison presiding, and Darrall, of Louisi
ana, -mas examined by Mr. Cox. Be stated
that he first saw Anderson in the spring of
1877, when he said the protest he had made was
correct as regards intimidation. Shortly after
-my conversation -"frith Potter, Anderson told
me that he had been Matthews and threatened
him with the publication of the documents,
and pictured to Matthews the scandal it would
-.aise, and that in reply Matthews told Ander
son i he was inclined to pursue that course,
he might go on and publish anything he de
sired. Subsequently Matthews said to
witness he would have nothing further
to do with Anderson if he intended publishing
the documents. Witness said he had seen the
original of the Nash agreement and related
the circumstances. Anderson was in Wash
ington about the first of March looking for
appointment and called on me at various
times. Shortly after March 4th, I called on
the President and stated reasons why Ander
son bhould be appointed, which weic because
ii the part taken by him in the Louisiana
election and that he was a very intelligent
mail. About a week after the visit to the
President, Anderson called on witness and
teaid he and Nash had quarrelled and that he
as going to expose Nailiin other words, he
was going for him. He stated that he had a
paper that would ruin Nash and thereupon
inoduccd the Nash agreement. Nash later
stated to witness that he had signed it in a
foolish moment and ought not have done so,
but did not care about it. Witness had never
had communication with Sherman about the
bo-calh'd Sherman letter, and believed there is
no si* ch document in existence. His knowl
edge of it is only what he has heard from Mrs.
-3enks and Anderson, whose stories are con
Witness said Anderson had stated to him
that the document was signed by Sherman and
Stoughton, but the copy witness saw was signed
by Sherman only, and was entirely different
irorn what Anderson represented. Anderson
had stated to witnebs that his parish was ter-
u'^le that no Republican was safe there and
.mentioned the names of prominent Republic
ans intimidated and unable to vote. Witness
*aid that Anderson, when at home, was much
dissipated. Although his reputation might be
'onsidered bad in the North, it was considered
jiood to fair in New Orleans.
After Anderson's statement regarding the
tumble condition of his parish, Anderson ex
hibited his coat and vest where he had been
bliot. I think his pocket- book or papers pre
vented him fiom being wounded, but his coat
vi as much torn, and he told me quite a lengthy
vtory of his having been followed at night and
-in attempt made to assassinate him, and about
o*iis escape, and he exhibited evidence of the
bhoottng. 1 saw several parties of the same
pai inh on the boat at the same time I did An
derbon, and they all had the same story, that
no man dared say he was a Republican, and
dared vote the Republican ticket.
By Mr. McMahonAfter reading the Nash
igicement did you revoke your recommendation
for the appointment of Anderson?
A. No. sir, I never Wrote to the President
Tevoking the recommendation I had made. In
fact, I was quite sure there was no chance for
Q. Why was Anderson regarded by you so
Important a person to have in your dealings
with the administiation, and why yu corre
sponding with him, sending for him to come
over heie to aid in securing the support of
A. Anderson represented he had claims on
Matthews which he was sure would gain his
suppwt and he (Anderson) desired to assist his
fJ lends, having a good position himself.
Q. Did you come to Anderson, urging him
to write to Matthews in your behalf, regarding
the New Orleans collectorship, even after the
quarrel between Anderson and Matthews had
A. Well, I knew that Matthews was well
disposed toward Anderson after the conversa
tion between them in which Anderson threat
ened the publication of documents, and that
he had received letters from Matthews after
To a question by Mr. Blackburn, witness
feaid that on yesterday he waited in the com
mittee room after 1 o'clock, when desiring to
sec the President before he left the city, he
went to the Senate and informed Kellogg he
was going to the White House and if the com
mittee desired his attendance a telegram would
find him there. On reaching the White House
the seigeant-at-arms overtook him and he re
turned foithwith. He had business with the
President, and hearing he was going away, de
sired to see him before he left.
Darrall said he would make a correction of
liis testimony of the previous day as printed.
In answer to a question it appeared he said:
to this date no appointments haye been
had except on recommendation of the return
ing boards." Witness said he meant up to the
date when he left Washington, some time in
March last Of course he knew nothing that
had transpired since he left.
Question by ButlerWhat did you advise
Anderson to do in regard to these papers?
A. Shortly after the commission was ap
pointed I received a letter from Anderson,
stating that he intended testifying to some
thing on that account, and I wrote a letter tell
ing him to do so. That he had not been treated
Q. You advised him to pitch in?
Q. Didn't you express the same opinion as
to these papers in his possession
A. Perhaps I did. I have no distinct recol
Q. Don't you remember saying to him of
something in that letter, something like this:
"To go ahead and pitch into and expose the
paalm singing hypocrite," and that his papers
would do it?
A. I am inclined to think I said something
of that kind. I know I spoke quite warmly
in regard to it.
Q. That was after you had gone to New Or
A. Yes sir, not long ago. There was not a
very warm feeling towards the Republican ad
ministration in our State.
By BlackburnHave you, in the course of
your testimony before the committee, told of
all the efforts you made to secure an appoint
ment for Anderson?
A. I imagine so.
Q. Didn't you ever have an interview with
the secretary of state in his behalf?
A.I certainly did go with him to the secre
tary of state.
Q. Oltener than once?
A. I remember once very distinctly, for the
secretary of state wanted to know whether we
could get recommendations of the Democratic
members from that State, and possibly I went
a second time.
Q. How late was the last interview you had
with the secretary of state in the interest of
A. That I could not say. I have no way of
hxing it. That was in 1877. I don't think we
called on the secretary of state more than once.
The letter of April 5 was here called to wit
ness' attention simply for the purpose of re
freshing his recollection.
Q. Didn't you learn from Matthews that
Anderson was the first man that had suggested
your name to him as a candidate for the col
A. I have stated that already.
Q. Had you prior to that time had any con
veisation with Anderson about advocating
your claims to the collectorship?
Q. When did you first have a conversation
with Anderson on that subject?
A. That would be one or two days previous
to the interview with Matthews.
Q. Did you call upon Matthews by his send
ing i'r yon?
A. By his sending for me through Anderson
Q. Did you write to Anderson to come and
see you about your candidacy?
A. Wrote him a number of letters.
Buttler(interrupting)Pardon me. You
were about to become a candidate for a high
office under the government. Here was a
drunken, miserable fellow, down in Louisiana*
or had been there, of whom you had learned he
had got a corrupt agreement* to have the naval
officership. Don't you know whether he offered
his services to you or you went to him
A. Well, air, Anderson and myself had had
a conversation in regard to the collectorship
before I became cold in regard to Packard.
Q. Leave him out
A. About myself, I can't swear whether
the suggestion came from him or me or from
some friend of mine.
Q. I mean the suggestion that the loafer
could take part inthat's what I want?
A. I remember writing Anderson about the
Q. Didn't you write him to come over and
A. I wrote a number of letters,
Q. Shorty, did you write him before he
said anything to you
A. I think I did.
Q. Don't you believe you did?
A. That's my best recollection. UnleBS I
saw the letter I could not tell.
Q. What induced you to go to Philadelphia
for this miserable man to aid you in that can
A. I stated Anderson had sugges
ted to me a number of times and it was under
stood that he had papers or documents that
the powers that were would be willing and
glad to listen to.
Q. When did he make that statement to you
first, leaving out the Weber and Nash agree
A. Sometime previous to this date, prob
ably a month.
Q. Did Anderson say anything or hint any
thing to you about any documents, leaving out
the Weber and Nash documents, till you wrote
him about or asked him about such docu
A. My first letter to him to come must be
dated in Philadelphia. Anderson was here im
mediately previous to the recess or immediately
after, for some time, and I have heard him
state that he had letters from Matthews and
Q. What is the earliest day that you can
recollect that you knew anything from him
that he had them or claimed to have them
A. It is very difficult for me to answer that.
During the time the commission was there I
knew he had letters from Matthews, he so in
formed me, and I am of the impression that he
informed me about what is called the Sherman
agreement either before or immediately after
the holiday recess. I can't remember exactly.
Q. Now we have it that when the visiting
statesmen were thexe in April, Anderson in
formed you he had letters from Matthews.
A. He certainly informed me, and I think
he showed me a letter from MatthewB, of in
troduction to Judge Harlcn, or something of
that kind. My recollection is he said some
thing about having such a letter, and showed
it to me.
Q. Did he tell you what he was going to do
in consequence of that introduction?
A. He told me he had called, or would call,
on Hailan, and my recollection is he did call
on Harlan more than once, presented the
letters of introduction and conversed with
Harlan, I don't recollect what he said, but he
said he had a number of interviews, and he
told him at that time, as I recollect, that he
gave that Weber agreement to Harlanthat is
he found the agreement and he said he had sent
it to Matthews. My reccollection is that he saw
Harlan, was promised some position, and de
livered him the document. He said he sent it
to Matthews, but my recollection is he gave it
Q. Then you knew he was sent with a confi
dential letter of introduction from Senator
Matthews to Harlan, and he was visiting Harlan
back and forth, and that he had given him a
copy of the Weber affidavit
A. Yes. My recollection is that I never
knew what was in that agreement till I saw it
Q. Didn't you ask him then what the Weber
affidavit was if you did not know about it?
A. Certainly. My recollection is he stated
to me that it was an affidavit to the effect that
their protest was not legal.
Q. Which document did he tell you he gave
Harlan, in your recollection the original or the
A. The original.
Q. Didn't you say to him "What on earth
did Harlan want of that?"
A. I don't recollect any conversation. I
cannot give the words I used, but I expressed
much surprise that Harlan wanted that docu
Q. In answer to that surprise what did An
derson say Let me help you didn't he say
"Why, Harlan promised if I would give it to
him he would help me to get an office," or
words to that effect
A. The effect was that, of course, Harlan
and Matthews would secure him an office.
Q. Did you express any surprise to Ander
son that after Matthews and Harlan had been
informed that he had a made a fraudulent
agreement with Nash and a false protest, that
they should promise to give him an office?
A. I have no doubt I did.
Q. Do you remember so?
Q. How did Anderson meet that surprise of
A. Yon will have to help me out.
Q. I guess I can. Did he not say he was
employed by Matthews to watch the Packard
people for him?
A, No I did not hear of it.
Q. And to report to Harlan about it?
A. I never heard anything about the
Q. It didn't surprise you that Harlan want
to consult this man?
A. My recollection is that I supposed he
wanted him for the purpose of consulting in
regard to the office.
Q. You were surprised that he wanted to
give him an office, but not surprised that he
wanted to consult hire about the office?
A. That is about the idea.
Q. When did you first learn from any living
being that the Sherman letter was in exist
A. I cannot give the date that I learned of
the existence ot the letter, I am satisfied 1
learned it from Anderson himself.
Q. When you first heard of it, what did you
hear it was?
A. The recollection I have of the letter, was
that it was a letter given by Mr. Sherman and
Mr. Stoughton, to Mr. Anderson and Mr.
Weber in reply to a letter sent there by Ander
son and Weber stating that they had made re
turns from their parishes.
Q. No, you are now telling me what is in
the Weber letter. I want simply to learn what
you learned' the contents of the Sherman letter
A. That it was about the fact that if those
gentlemen would stand firm by the Republican
party and make their returns and do their duty,
they would be rewarded and their services
would be remembered by the administration
coming in power.
Q. Did you think it at all important as a
A. I can't remember my thoughts back six
months or a year.
Q. Can't you tell me whether you thought
it was important or not?
A. I did think so. Yes sir.
Q. Now, it being an important letter written
by the secretary of the treasury to a poor juior
and a loafer, did it strike you as a strange cir
cumstance that you would forget?
A. I have never forgotten it.
Q. Then can't you tell us when you learned
that important thing?
A. I have fixed it as near as I can.
Q. Some time prior to the meeting of Con
gress in October, you learned of this Shermau
A. I don't say that positively. I have one
way I can fix it beyond any question, and that
was the date when Mrs. Jenks called on me,
early in January, and stated she had such a
letter but I am satisfied I heard of it from
Anderson previous to thatprevious to Jan
Q. Now, then, you had learned from Ander
son that he hao made a false affidavit that
there was a fair election when you believed
there was an unfair one you had learned of a
corrupt arranagement with Nash you had
learned he got a letter that you thought a very
i strange one, and you had learned from Mrs.
Jenks that she had something to do with that
letter you were about being a candidate for
collector, and that being, the condition of
things, you wrote to Anderson to help you.
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Now, then, you expected help from him
on aedpunt of having these documents?
A. rJertainiy, certainly.
Q. And you expected to get into office upon
the fears of the administration, through some
of its principals or attaches, of the publication
of these documents?
A. That was one of the means.
Q. That was one of the crutches you were
to walk on.
Q. Whether the right bower or left bower
we won't say now. The records show you
worked up to the best of your ability that
Q. Now, sir, don't you believe you failed be
cause copies of this matter had got abroad?
Was not that it?
A. In my opinion either myself or some
other party suggested by Anderson would have
been appointed but for the fact that it was
known that copies of these documents were in
possession of other parties, and that they were
virtually public property.
Q. It these documents had not been pub
lished you would have been willing to have
owed your election to the efforts of a perjurer
and a blackmailer with false documents as col
lateral at one of the principal offices. You have
stated him to be such?
A. You yourself stated it nowI not of my
own personal knowledge.
Q. You know the man to be corrupt you
believed his affidavit to be false you knew his
acquaintances would say he was a drunkard,
and you knew that using these documents for
this purpose waR simply black-mailing?
A. Certainly, certainly.
Q. Then haven't you stated all that I have?
Q. Then we don't substantially differ, and
you were sorry you failed
A. Naturally. (Laughter.)
Q. Now, then, in regard to that interview.
You say you saw Matthews at his house, did
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did he send for you, or did you go vol
A. 1 called on him at my own suggestion.
Q. State the firBt thing you lecollect that
either of you said?
A. I suppose you mean anything that will
bear on this case and effect a point you want
Q. You have no more idea of the point I
want to make than you have of the Indian
language. I intend that shall go on with
your story and let my points alone.
A. The first thing that I recollect is that I
stated to Matthews that it had come to my
knowledge that copies of those documents or
papers, or whatever they were, were in exist
ence in the newspaper office of the New York
S'un and that copies of them or the originals
had been offered to patties in New York repre
Q. Do you have any recollection of anything
occurring before that in that interview?
A. We probably discussed this matter of
the collectorship before that. After I had told
Matthews thiB about the papers, he informed
me he had the Bame information from some
Democratic source, and his statement was to
the effect that be did not care whether the doc
ument, so far as he was concerned, was deliv
ered to other parties, or purchased, or bought,
or what was done with it. We then discussed
what is called the Sherman letter. I told him
what I had heard in regard to its existence, and
if I remember distinctly, he remarked that he
did not believe any such letter had ever been
written, and no original was in existence. Dur
ing the interview, it was mentioned that An
deison, or parries representing him
Q. Who mentioned it?
A. It was mentioned by myself, and he had
heard the same, that parties representing An
derson would dispose of those documents, and
I told him Anderson had been over here at are
quest of mine, and I inquired in regard to the
papers and documents, and that he had assured
me they were in his possession and would re
main safely there. Matthews remarked that in
case of my appointment or the appointment of
some one suitable to us, Anderson should be
willing to give up all documents and papers
that he had and torego any claims that he had
on him (Matthews) or the administration.
Q. You have spoken of papers generally
you have even told us three times over that
Matthews introduced the Sherman letter by
Baying he did not care about the papers so far
as he was concerned, except as to the Sherman
letter. Did not Matthews introduce the ubject
of the Sherman letter first
A. I cannot recollect who first spoke of the
Q. Do you recollect of its coming in in any
other way than you put it in your direct ex
A. I do not.
Q. That he in substance said he did not care
about anything else, but it was the Sherman
letter that was important. Why didn't you
say, Mr. Matthews, what is the Sherman letter?
Didn't you say that to him?
A. There was nothing of the kind said. The
Sherman letter at that time had been discussed
in the papers, and it is to be supposed every
body knew what it was.
Q. Pardon me. If you tell me what is in
the newspapers you will tell me a great many
things that are not true while you are testify
ing under oath therefore don't do it. (Laugh-
ter.) Did he refer to the newspapers as his
source of information
A. Neither of us referred to the news
Q. Now what source of information did you
give him about the Sherman letter in that con
A. My source of information was Mr. Pot
ter, chairman of this committee, and what I
had heard of it through him.
Q. But what information did you give him
about the Sherman letter as distinctive?
A. I can recollect nothing as distinctive.
Q. What information did he give you about
the Sherman letter?
A. None whatever.
Q. Then the Sherman letter was spoken of
as a matter that you two knew all about
A. Certainly, it was a well' known thing.
Q. It was after the fifth of April and be
fore the 19th of that month, you saw the pa
pers Anderson had?
A. Yes sir.
Q. On the 19th you had learned your con
didature was up in the old saying, your cake
was dough, and the papers were not any longer
instrumental in helping you. Why did you
want them on the 19th of Apiil?
A. I cannot give you any information as to
that. I can't explain that telegram.
Q. Let me see if I can help you. You had
just been beaten. Were you not as well satis
fied then to have the papers published
A Oh, no, sir. I had no such idea as that
not at that time.
Q. Afterwards you told him he had better
A. There is but one explanation I can give
as to that telegram, and I am positively certain
I saw the documents previous to the 19th of
April. About the time the appointment was
made and a few days before I went home,
Packard notified me he had telegraphed Ander
son to come over and had signed my name to
the telegram, Anderson having a better ac
quaintance with me than with Packard, though
he was well acquainted with us. That may ex
plain the matter.
Q. But Packard was beaten before you be
gan, and you wanted to antagonize him. You
were beaten, and Packard too, "by the 19th of
April. How d you explain that Packard wanted
the papers? They were no longer a reason for
A. I have given the best recolleetion I have.
Q. Now, then, when you saw the papers they
didn't seem to you to be of any consequence?
A. Well. I would consider the letter of
Matthews and Sherman, if the originals could
be produced, as important documents.
Q. When Anderson showed you the papers,
where were you?
A. It was in my own room.
Q. Who was present?
A. The only gentlemen present were G. L.
Smith, present collector of New Orleans, An
derson and myself. Mr. Smith saw a portion
of the paperspossibly all of them. I exam
ined them. The only thing that I recollect as
being said by either one of the gentlemen
present was some expression of surprise or as
tonishment on the part of Mr. Smith that such
documents or papers existed.
Q. You were not surprised at their exist
ST. PAUL, THUESDAY MORNING, JUNE 13, 1878.
A. Oh, no, sir.
Q. Were you surprised about anything you
saw there that day?
A. Nothing except the Matthews letter.
Q. You were surprised that Matthews had
been foolish enough to write such letters?
A. Yes, sir and I remember Smith expressed
Q. Why did not you turn to Anderson and
say: You have been deceiving me all this time.
You told me you had an agreement from Sher
man and Stoughton, and now it turns out you
have got nothing but a copy of the letter from
Sherman. What did you mean by telling me
those lies for this year or more? Did you
make any such remark to Anderson?
A. No, sir I did not.
Witness further said Anderson told him he
had represented to Sherman and Stoughton
that be and Weber had rendered services at the
risk of their lives, and that they were advised
to stand firm by Sherman. My recollection is
that Stoughton did not take part in the per
sonal interview, but that they were not fully
satisfied with his verbal assurances, and next
day Anderson and Weber wrote these two gen
tlemen a letter and received from them a letter
in regard to it.
Witness testified that he met Matthews in
the Senate chamber, and the latter mentioned
first the subject of Anderson's interview, say
ing that Anderson had called upon him and
spoken very roughly to him, and had made
threats of the publication of these documents,
or something of that kind, and that he told
Anderson that he felt very much hurt and dis
gusted at that action that he had been
doing all that he could in accordance
with Anderson's wishes, and that he had told
Anderson that he did not want to see him any
further, and that he might do as he pleased
with the papers and documents, and that he
would drop him, and he said substantially the
same to me, that it wasno use trying to do any
thing with such a man, or something of tha
kind that he was unreasonable and expected
him to do more than he could do, and that he
had done the best he could under the circum
stances, and that he was determined to have
nothing further to do with Anderson.
W. H. BEYMODB EXAMINED.
Q. There has been a paper produced before
this committee which seems to have your name
and seal attached. Please look at it and see
whether you can identify your signature and
A. (After looking at the paper referred to).
Yes sir that is my signature and seal.
Q. State anything you know about the exe
cution of that paper, if you know anything
turther than by seeing your name there.
A. This document was sworn to before me
at the date it purports to be given, by Ander
son and some other gentleman who was with
Q. Did you know the other person with
A. No, sir, I did not, only from the intro
duction at the time.
Q. How was he introduced?
A. He was introduced by Anderson as Mr.
Q. Did you know whether or not it was Mr.
A. I did not. I knew the witnesses, Mr.
Dyke and Mr. Welden. They are claim agents
and attorneys, residing in New Orleans.
Q. Was the inside of this paper communi
cated to you, or did the parties just ..present
this part of it and say they had sworn to it?
A. That is all. I just saw the inside. I was
not made acquainted with the contents of it.
The gentlemen seemed very reticent about
communicating the contents, and I put the
question to them whether there was anything
in it that would be unprofessional for me to
signanything that would appear ridiculous
or non-professional, and Anderson said no.
The document was signed when it was brought
to me. I said to Weber, is it all right?
Q. Let me call your attention to one or two
peculiarities in the document. Do you notice
the fact that "And A. Weber" appears to
have been added after the journal had been
A. Yes Bir.
Q. Do you remember your attention being
called to that, or noticing it at the time
A. I am almost positive that I called Ander
son's attention to that fact, and the fact that
Weber's name was not on that document, or at
least his name was not inserted, and I had the
correction made when it was first presented to
me. It was simply, "Sworn to before me this
loth November, 1876, by the before mentioned
Jas. E. Anderson." I said there are two gentle
men to this, and the other name must be in
Q. And then who inserted it?
A, I don't knew who inserted it, but some
body did, and it is not in my handwriting.
Q. Do you notice the fact that your own
signature is signed on the line immediately be
low Anderson's and partly beneath it, so as to
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And the words "Notary public" are still
further to the right on the next line?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And the signature, "D. A. Weber," is
put in between the word "Anderson" and the
word "notary" and on the Bame line with your
A. Yes, sir.
Q. 1 will ask you whether you were in the
habit of putting your own signature in that
way upon the same line with that of other
A. Yes, sir sometimes.
Q. Look at that paper again and see whether
the words, "by the within mentioned J. E.
Anderson and D. A. Weber," might not have
been added at your suggestion, and that
neither of the parties were mentioned in the
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Whatever was done was before you
A. Yes bir.
By ButlerAnd you are certain there were
two gentlemen there to make oath?
A. Yea sir. One was the gentleman here
(pointing to Andeison) and the other was a
man who was introduced to me.
Q. Do you remember whether Anderson and
Weber signed the jurat in your presence.
A. I think the signatures on the face of the
document had already been signed by Weber
and Anderson. I then called attention to the
fact that the other name had not been added
in the body of the Jurat.
Q. Look at the signatures of Anderson and
Weber and state whether in your judgement
they were signed with the same pen that you
A. They were not signed with the same
Q. Were the two Anderson signatures made
at the same time and with the same ink and
A. The ink is not the same. The ink I used
on this occasion and the ink that Anderson
used was evidently the same ink and the signa
ture of Weber and the names written in there
seems to be the same ink, although not the ink
I used. Anderson and I wrote evidently from
the earne ink. The office is large, and we have
a table on which there are two or three ink
Q, Did or did not these two persons, Ander
son and the other person, write their names to
that jurat in your presence?
A. I will not be positive about that. They
may have gone and URed other ink.
Q. Do you recollect seeing them writing
their names in your office at all?
A. No, sir, 1 don't.
Q. Are you able to state whether the names
had been put there before they came to the
office or no?
A. The signature of Anderson was already
there before the came to the office. Weber's
name was not there, and I called Anderson's
attention to the fact.
H. A. WILDER
sworn. Beside in New Orleans. Anderson called
on him with a friend and said he had a docu
ment that he a nd his friend wished to sign and
acknowledge before a notary, but he didn't
want any question asked about it, and he
asked me if I thought it could be done. Dicks
spoke up and said certainly it could be done
that it could be acknowledged without the no
tary knowing the contents. He then
asked Dicks and myself to witness
these two signatures to the paper. I was busy
at the time and there were a good many peoDle
in my office, and I remember signing, and then
I took him and introduced him to Seymour,
whose office is only two or three doors from
Q. Is that the signature of Dicks, your part
_. A. I is, unless it is a very good counterfeit.
Q. Did you observe the friend he spoke of
who was with him?
A. I saw the gentleman yes sir.
Q. Who was he?
A, I do not know.
Q. Were these two signatures on the front
of the paper made in your office?
A. I think they were signed in my office.
Q. Who carried the paper to the notary's?
A. Anderson carried it, 1 think.
Q. Did you see them sign there in presence
of the notary?
A. I am under the impression it was signed
in my office.
Q. Whether the other signatures were put
in there that day or after that, you know
A. Acccording to that jurat, they could
have been put on it six months afterwards.
c. H. SMITH,
late appointment clerk of the treasury, recalled
and examined by Butler: First saw James E.
Anderson about the middle of June last in his
office. Anderson came there alone, either
bringing a letter to witness from Senator
Matthews or else the letter had been received
from that gentleman by mail. He had Eot got
that letter and did not know what he had done
with it. It was in regard to Anderson's ap
pointment, recommending in the usual form.
Q. Did you find any letter concerning An
derson on the files of the office?
A. No, sir not myself. After leaving the
office I applied last week for such letter, and
was infor.-aed that no such letter was on the
fileB of the office. I was shown a letter from
Conn recommending him.
Q. Was theie more than one letter passed be
tween you and Stanley Matthews in regard to
the appointment of Anderson?
A. Yes, sir and I think I sent him a tele
gram also at the request of Anderson.
Q. Have you a copy of that telegram?
A. No sir.
Q. Have you either telegram or letter sent
A. I have a letter of Mr. Matthews. It is as
MATTHEWS, RAMSAY & MATTHEWB' LAW OF-
FICE, CINCINNATI, June 22, 1877. MY DEAE
GENERAL, I have your favor of the 20th. First,
n one is under any obligations to Anderson.
I saw him in the oars going to Baltimore. He
told me he was satisfied. If he is not satisfied
to take what you choose to offer,
drop him. I promised nothing except to do
what I could to have him reasonably provided
for. Second, as to Mcllrath, I cannot speak
definitely, because I do not know the salaries
paid. Of course if he enters the service for
the first time he ought not to expect the
highest grade. Do for him the best you can
under the circumstances. Yours truly,
WASHINGTON, June 12.The select Senate
committee appointed under the Matthews reso
lution has decided to commence the investiga
tion to-morrow, the session to be open to
reporters of the associated press only. JaB. E.
Anderson and ex-Congressman Darrall were
subpoenaed to appear to-morrow.
The Presidential Title.
WASHINGTON, June 12.The House judiciary com
mittee, to afford Chairman Knott an opportunity to
prepare dissenting views to resolutions adopted con
cerning the Kimmel bill, agreed to postpone till Fri
day consideration on the report drafted by Hartrldge
and to accompany the resolution Hartridge's re
port takes the ground that the Presidential title is
unassailable by Congress or the courts, but adds
that all matters of alleged fraud should be thorough
ly investigated so that the wrong-doers may be ex
posed to public reprobation and the truth of history
be vindicated. Two or three Republican members
of the committee say they will not subscribe to this
portion of the report unless it be divested of any
possible implication that the election of Hayes and
Wheeler was procured by fraudstheir view being
that if any frauds were committed the balance of the
profit throughout the ceuntry accrued to their politi
THE OLD WORLD.
The Congress to Meet on Alternate Days
Its ScopeFailing/ Health of the Pope
Emperor "William Bapidly Improvin g.
BERLIN, June 12.Gortschakoff arrived quite
ill. The congress will probably sit on alter
nate days, each sitting to occupy about three
hours. The first subjects consideied will prob
ably be the degree ot secrecy to be observed
and military positions.
LONDON, June 12.The Duke of Cambride
has left London en route to Malta.
A Vienna correspondent says: The various
governments have agreed that the discussion in
the congress shall be secret, but a committee
will immediately be appointed to select what
portion of the deliberations it is desirable to
The confidence both in St. Petersburg and in
Berlin in the successful issue of the congress,
is reported to be so deep as almost to exclude
a doubt that Count Schovaloff's policy is tri
umphant at St. Petersburg, and his antagonists
are silenced, but the situation at Constantino
ple still continues to cause uneasiness.
BERLIN, June 12.Count Corti, the Italian
plenipotentiary, and suite, arrived last night.
Prince Gortschahoff arrived this morning.
POPE LEO ILL.
LONDON, June 12.A Rome dispatch says:
The many recent reportB of the Pope's fail
ing health and his intended abdication are un
ROME, June 12.Ihe Becrsaylien, a liberal
newspaper, stated yesterday that the Pope had
had a protracted fainting fit. The Osxeruatore
Romero officially states that the Pope's health
is excellent. The Unita Catholica contradicts
the report that the Pope contemplates going to
the country. The weather in Rome is exces
THE SICK EMPRESS.
ST. PETEESBUBGH, June 12.To-day's bi lie
tin reports the condition of the empress as
follows: The fever and inflammation is subsid
ing but the patient's rest is disturbed and she
does not gain strength. Public prayers are
offered in the churches in all parts of Russia
for the recovery of the Empress.
BERLIN, June 12.To-day's bulletin reports
that the emperor enjoyed an undisturbed, re
freshing sleep throughout the night and this
morning the swelling of his arm was decreased.
BERLIN, June 12.The emperor expects to
go to Babelsburg Monday next. His health is
so much improved he hopes to be able to give
a reception to the plenipotentiaries before the
adjournment of congress. Prince Hohenlohe
German ambassador to Paris will sit as the
third plenipotentiary for Germany.
Plenipotentiaries to the congress passed the
day in exchanging visits. The Ottoman am
bassador at Berlin will alone represent Turkey
at the opening of the congress. The congress
will choose its own president, but Bismarck
will doubtless be selected. Complete secrecy
will be observed regarding the proceedings and
an oath to that effect has been imposed on the
printers engaged on reports of sittings.
BRUSSELS, June 12.As far as known the
liberals have a majority of ten in the chamber
of deputies, and six in the Senate. In one in
stance a second ballot will be necessary.
PARIS, June 12.Ex-King George of Hanover
MUNITIONS FROM AMERICA.
LONDON. June 12.It is stated that two
Americen steamers have arrived at Cronstadt
laden with arms, ammunition and warlike
stores for the Russians.
NEW YORK, June 12.Trunk line manager*
met this afternoon and decided, in view of an
abandonment of east bound freight pooling
combination, to arrange a trunk line per cent
age on a basis of 20 cents from Chicago, 46 per
cent, to be divided among trunk lines, and
Western roads to be left at Liberty to regulate
I east-bourid freight as they please.
BV.SIXMSS OF THE NATIONAL ZAW
Deficiency Bill Passed by the SenateThe
Joint Resolution for the Enforcement of
the Eight Hour Law Shelved in the Sen-
ateThe Inflationists Get a Black Eye
in the [HouseGen. Fremont Confirmed
Governor of ArizonaMiscellaneous.
WASHINGTON, June 12.The House bill
passed making appropriations for payment of
claims reported allowed by the commissioners
of claims under the act of Congress of March
3d, together with amendments extending the
time of taking evidence and submitting claims
in cases now pending until March 10, 1879, and
also extending the term of office of the commis
sioner of claims until March 10, 1880, provided
that nothing in the act shall be so construed as
to extend the time for filing claims before said
commission or to enlarge its jurisdiction or to
authorize, the filing of new claims.
Senator Conkling reported favorably the Sen
ale bill authorizing the Southern Pacific rail
road company to construct, maintain and
operate a bridge across the Colorado river at
Fort Tama, in the State of California, and in
the Territory of Oiegon. Placed on the
The House bill authorizing the payment of
the claim of Tennessee for keeping United
States prisoners passed.
Senators Davis, 111., Blaine and Thurman
were appointed a conference committee on
the part of the Senate on the bill providing for
the distribution of the award made under the
convention between the United States and the
government of Mexico.
Senator Dorsey, from the conference com
mittee on the post office appropriation bill,
submitted a report, which was agreed to, and
the bill passed.
Senator Dawes, from the committee on pub
lic buildings and grounds, submitted an
amendment to the sundry civil appropriation
bill, appropriating $50,000 for work on the
new public building at Topeka, Kansas, pro
viding that the total cost shall not exceed
Senator Voorhees presented the petition of
Peter Cooper, praying the repeal of the specie
resumption act and remonstrating against the
proposed adjournment of Congress until some
legislative measures for financial relief had
been passed. Referred.
The deficiency appropriation bill was passed
without amendment and bills on the calendar
were considered. Among those passed were the
House bill making appropriations for payment
of claims reported allowed by the commission
er of claims under the act known as the South
ern claims commission the Senate bill to cor
rect an error in the revised statutes in reference
to the transportation of cattle on railroads, and
the Senate bill to provide for the appointment
of a district judge for the Western district of
Tennessee. Senate bill directing the secretary
of war to purchase a lot of ground near Colum
bus, Ohio, now used by the United States as a
The House joint resolution to provide for the
enforcement of the eight hour law having been
reached, with the adverse report thereon, sev
eral Senators objected to its consideration.
Senator Spencer moved to suspend further
consideration of the calendar and proceed with
the consideration of the joint resolution in re
gard to the eight hour law. Agreed to, yeas
24, nayes 23.
After discussion further consideration of the
bill was postponed till decernber next by a vote
of yeas 31, nayes 25.
The select committee to inquire into the al
leged frauds in Louisiana, under the resolution
of Senator Matthews, was authorized to sit
during the session of the Senate.
Senate bill authorizing Ohio, Indiana and
Illinois to prosecute suits against the United
States in the supreme court of the United
States on account of sales of public lands in
each State. Passed.
Senate bill in relation to the Venezuela
mixed commission. Passed.
Senate bill making a pre-emption grant to the
heirs of Jean Baptiste Beaubicn, deceased, for
part of Fort Dearborn reservation, Chicago,
and to confirm the purchasers of the other
parts in their titles, and to convey to Chicago
the streets and alleys and the rest of the reser
vation which was adversely reported from the
committee on private land claims, was on mo
tion of Senator Davis indefinitely postponed.
An executive session v/as soon after held and
when the doors were re-opened, adjourned.
House of Representatives.
WASHINGTON, June 12.The Speaker appoint
ed Wilson, Chalmers and Banks conferees on
the Mexican award bill. The House then went
into committee of the whole, Mr. Carlisle in
the chair, on the civil sundry appropriation
When the section in regard to engrossing and
printing was reached, Mr. Kelly offered an
amendment providing that no money appropri
ated shall be used for engrossing, issuing,
selling or otherwise disposing of bonds
or other securities of the United States for the
purpose of bringing about or providing for the
resumption of specie payments. Rejected
ayes 89, nays 105.
Amendments,for the reissue of ten millions
of treasury notes now held for redemption of
fractional currency and for the advertisement
of the sales of bonds were ruled out of order.
The section in regard to the coast survey
having been reached, Mr. Young offered an
amsndment appropriating $123,000 for re
claiming the alluvial lands of the Mississippi
Mr. Stephens moved to increase the appro
priation for the signal service from $325,000 to
$350,000. Adopted, 100 to 49.
Mr. Price moved, in regard to the Rock
Island arsenal, further appropriations aggre
gating $265,000. Adopted, 102 to 58.
On motion of Mr. Thompson, the paragraph
providing for the sale of the arsenals at Pitts
burgh, Pa., and Pikesville, Md., was stricken
The committee then rose, and the speaker
laid before the House a message from the Pres
ident, recommending an appropriation for a
commission on the part of the United States in
the international monetary conference. Re
A recess followed, the evening session to be
for general business.
The House had a disorderly session on the
sundry civil appropriation bill lasting nnti 1
WASHINGTON, D. June 12.The Senate in
executvie session confirmed Jno. C. Fremont
Governor of Arizona Crowley P. Dyke, Michi
gan, United States Marshal of Arizona Henry
C. Marston, Illinois, United States Consul at
Port Louis Jno. L. Witcher, West Virginia,
pension agent at Washington.
The House committee on public lands to-day
agreed to report favorably a bill providing
members of the Chicago soldiers' and citizens'
colony, who make selections of homesteads in
specified townships, shall be allowed two years
after filing a declaratory statement within
which to make entries, and this special privi
lege is granted on condition that each person
locating a homestead and filing bis declaratory
statement shall improve not less than five acres
the second year from location.
The Bame committee adopted a resolution
requesting the secretary of the interior to take
no action affecting titles to the new Iberia I
quicksilver mines in California until the com
mittee shall have acted upon the subject of the
McGarrahan claim at the next session of Con
Senator Saunders introduced a bill in the
Senate to-day, which proposes to grant the
right of way and 40 sections of land per mile
to aid in the construction of a railway and
telegraph line from Omaha through Dakota
and Wyoming to the national Yellowstone
park, to connect with the Northern Pacific
railroad in Montana east of the 113th meridian.
France, Greece, Italy, the Netherlands, Hun
gary, Russia and Switzerland, have accepted
the invitation to the internal monetary con-
Britain have the subject under consideration.
The sub-committee of the House committee on
foreign affairs considering the Japanese indem
nity fund bill, recommend the passage of a
bill as a substitute in which the President it
authorized to pay back to Japan $7fc5,000 gold,
and five per cent, interest also to pay $125,000
out of the increase and accrued interesc npon
the fund to the officers and crews of the steam
er Wyoming and Taksmg, and the legal renre
sentative. The remainder of the increase of
the fund to be covered into the treasury.
The Lumley Block Destroyed at 1 O'clock
[Special Telegram to the Globe.]
MINNEAPOLIS, June 13.A fire alarm sounded
from box 16 just before 1 o'clock this morning.
It was occasioned by a fire which broke ont in
the warehouse immediately in the rear
of Lumley's block, corner of Washington av
enue and Seventh avenue south.
Lumley's is a large three story wooden block
with a frontage of ftO feet on Washington ave
nue by one hundred and twenty on Seventh
avenue. The flames soon communicated with
the main building and at this writing the en
tire block is a mass of flames.
Adjoining Lumley's block was another framo
storeroom. The building was three stories
high, the lower floor o. cupied by Smith & Day,
The flames have communicated with the
building and the firemen are now engaged in
tearing it down to present the further spread
of the flames northward.
The entire block from Sixth to Seventh ave
nue south is of wood, but owing to the fortu
nate fact that there is little or no wind, it is
hoped the flames will be stopped before doing
The ground floor of the Lumley building
was occupied by its owner as a wholesale and
retail crockery store. A portion of the stock
was removed, but most of it will be lost. In
surance not known.
The same may be said of Smith & Day's
Latest. The firmen have the flames under
control and they will be confined to the build
ings enumerated above.
A GENERAL UPRISING,
The Indians All Alone the Frontier Taki.ig
to the War Patlu-Punle Among
SAN FRANCISCO, June 12. Winnemucca uis
patch: "Citizens held a meeting to-night and
subscribed money to arm and equip a mounted
volunteer company to go out on the north
western stage road to scout and check the hos
tile Indians, who are repoited numerous in tho
vicinity ef Camp McDermott. The up stage
from Summit was captured by Indians yester
day and McCutchen, the driver, killed. The
only passenger, named Hamilton, escaped on
one of his leaders. The rest of the horses
were taken and the stage gutted. The escaped
passenger gave an alarm along the road and
the Bettlers are all crowding into Camp Mc
Dermett. The road is all stripped from here
to Owyhee. The stage contained several boxes
of arms and ammunition for paities in Idaho.
SAN FRANCISCO, June 12.A Siher City,
Idaho, dispatch says the Indians at Jupiter
mountain will be able to-morrow to effect a
junction with those who have left Malheur
reservation, and in connection with the dis
affected Piutes and Sho-hones will numbei
about 600 effectual men. The daughter of old
Minnemuca, chief of the Piutes, was arrested
at Jordan Valley while attempting
to smuggle ammunition to the hostiles.
Some of the Bannocks have returned to Fort
Hall. Farmers have deserted their homes for
100 miles around Winnemucca. A dispatch
says Fort McDermott is garrisoned by a few
infantrymen who might be overpovered should
the Indians attack it in force. The refugee
bettlers have gathered there for protection.
Dispatches received at military headquartci
here confirm the press reports concerning In
dian depredations in Idaho, Utah and Nevada.
The uprising is considered almost universal
among the Bannocks and it is believed all the
military of the division of the Paciho will be
required to subdue the savages. Companies
and H, Fourth artillery, Capt. Eagan com
manding, left for Winnemucca by rail. Three
companies of the Eighth infantpy are en rou*e
from Arizona. One company of infantry is
moving from Fort Bid well to Camp M-L)ei
mott. All the troops at Frt Harney arc in
WILLIAM CULLEN BRYANT.
Death of the Venerable Editor, Poet and
NEW YORK, June 12.William Cuilen Bryant
at two o'clock this morning experienced a sud
den change for the worse, and bis breathing
became heavy and stentorious. His daughter
and grand-daughter, Miss Goodwin, John H.
Graham and the doctors were summoned and
remained with him until lie died, soon after
5 o'clock. Four days ago one bide of his
body was paralyzed and late la^t night the
other side was similarly stricken and vitality
was alone apparent in his head. The re
mains now repose in the library. The fea
tures look wonderfully lifelike and wear a
tranquil and peaceful apnearance. Mr. Bryant
will be buried at Roslyn, by his wife as as
his wish. His brother is expected from Illi
nois this evening.
REPUBLICAN STATE COMMITTEE.
Meeting YesterdayConvention to be Held
Geo. A. Brackeit. of Minneapolis, chairman,
W. H. Feller, of Wabashaw, A. J. E-lgerton, of
Dodge, R. I. Smith, of Mower, and II. A. Castle,
of Ramsey, were the only members of the Re
publican State Central* committee who re
sponded to the call for a meeting yesterday.
Mertsrs. L. F. Hubbard, Daniel Benson, G. C.
Burt, L. W. Collins, Wm. Wilsor, A. N. Seip,
A. B. Robbins, and Mark D. Flower were ab
Gen. Edgerton moved that Wednesday, Sep
tember 4, at 12 M, be the time for the conven
tion and that St. Paul be the place. Both
propositions were unanimously adopted. The
call was ordered to be issued based on the Re
publican vote of 1877, giving each county one
delegate and an additional delegate for every
400 Republican votes or major fraction, cast in
1877. This apportionment gives Hennepin 12
and Ramsey 8 delegates. The following coun
ties have more than one delegate:
Anoka, 2 Becker, 3 Blue Earth, 5 Brown.
3 Carver, 3: Chippewa, 2 Chisago. 3 Cotton
wood. 2 Crow Wiog, 2 Dakota. 4 Dodge, 4:
Douglas, 3 Faribault, 4 Fillmore, 6 Free
born, 6 Goodhue, 7: Grant, 2 Hennepin,
12 Houston, 5 Isanti, 2 Jackson, 2
Kandiyohi, 4 LeSueur. 3 Lvon, 2:
McLeod, 3 Martin, 2 Meeker, 3
Morrison, 2 Mower, 4 Nicollet, 4
Nobles, 2 Olmsted, 5 Otter Tail, 4 Polk, 2
Pope, 2 Ramsey, 8 Redwood, 2 Renville, 3
Rice, 6 Rock, 2 Scott, 2 Sherburne, 2 Sib
ley, 3 Stearns, 4 Steele, 4 Steven-, 2 St.
Louis, 2 Swift, 3 Todd, 2 Wabashaw, 5-
Waseca, 2 Washington, 5 Watonwan, 2 Wi
nona, 6 Wright, 5 Yellow Medicine. 2.
The candidates to be nominated are judge of
supreme court, state auditor and clerk of the
AM, AROUND THE GLOBE.
The Combination rubber company of New
York, has failed. Liabilities $115,000.
Gov. Carter of Iowa county, Iowa, has been
nominated for Congress by the National Green
The National Greenback party of the second
district of Michigan, has nominated L. W.
Thomas for Congress.
The railroad representatives in session in
New York, being unable to agree upon a pool,
adjourned sine die yesterday.
The "Little Nautilus," on a voyage across
tin ocean, which pnt into Beverly for repairs,
h resumed her voyage to Havre.
John Parker, colored, was hung at Cincin
nati yesterday, for the murder of Geo. Frank-
ference, and Austria, Belgium and Great Lin, in a quarrel at Somerset, Ky., last March.