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JACK ROSE WARNED BECKER
Would have to tin OflMtklltl
gives nn Just the . sense I
Mnt you to get that I. '.in si,. I
1 tu- led
the money .Vn that h
I can K" ahead and ral.l
had worry and rmlricr enough.
"I eald- Don't ffl escltc,!. i'hrny
Rosenthal will tlx tlilras OPi liot If you
tart to raid thnt place tin-re will se a
lot of trouble.' Beeker MMWartdi 'The
only troublr will lit for Ilnsi nthsl, for
If I tart to raiil MM! place I win go
throurei with It' 1 reported to Her-
Bian and told aim not to have Irtmbta
with t'harlajr. The folio In day 1
told Ilissentliel that lleeker had aald
ttaa place WB4 kIvInk- hln n lot of trou
l.le, and thnt he wiu going to raid.
Koeeuthal MMl 'You tell lleeker ha
can't raid thla plsro without the proper
evidence and lie can't gel hla mn In
bare to get evidence. -r 1 know all Ml
ran and won't If them In here.
"Becker - .1.1. 'Oh. that'a Me attitude.
! H Wall. When, I'll I" ahead and raid
thnt p '..
"I told Herman what Uecker aatd 11
Sie and liTtnan said, 'Well, you tell
htm that I won't stand for anything like
that. 1 can ,mak trouble fur lluckcr
enJ I " knows It.'
'Tbls conversation T rrpcirted lo nec-V-ar,
and he aaid he hnd made tiia ar
re,ngevnieiiis tornJd the place and ejage
U up. lie wain': colnx to let Rosen
thal otrt-rrrn off any longer. Viecauee
Comnilaaloner Waldo wag after Mm to
aloae that place
"I went to Merman and told Mm
bout Mr. Waldo'a order. Hoaentbal
aald: ion tall Iteckar he can't bluff
ana. I don't believe that Waldo story."
I reported back to Meeker what Knson
thai aald. ltecker aald. 'Well, we'll
ee.' Shortly after that Ttecker .-net
me againIn two or three daya. He
aid complaints against that place were
piling In and they were after him to
raid It. I aald: 'AJ1 right. Charley. K
foil can gat the evidence, why don't
you make 'the raid? Herman aya he
knowa all your man and you can't get
any of them In there to gat the evi
dence.' ENDS ROSE BACK TO ROSEN
"Rereker aald : 'I want you to go to
Rosenthal and tell him that I'd helped
aim out and been a good friend of hla
I want you to tell Hoaenthal that he'e
got to aland for a raid. Tou tell nlm
that the raid won't cloae him up perma
nently, but that he can tipen up again
In a few daya. All I want la to have
a record of having raided the pla-a
That'll atop all theae knocks and com
plaints that are coming In on me.'
"When I told this to Herman he got
hot and said: 'ltecker must be a fool to
think he can raid me without hurting
mc Why he might as well take a
torch and touch off my place and burn
ROSENTHAL SENT WORD HE
WOULDN'T STAND FOR RAID.
" Well.' I aald, 'you've got to end
this thing to help Bgsgsr.' Herman
aald: 'Oh, I don't cara. Von tell Hecker
Oils Is my place and that I am not go
ing to atand for any raid from Mm.'
I told Becker and he eald: 'That place
will be raided and by ma In the next
few days.' I refused to take that mos
aage tu Rosenthal, because I know It
apelled trouble. A few days later, at
he Union Hquarn Hotel, Becker anld
to me: 'I am going to raid that place
within a week.' I aaked him If lie
wanted ma to take that message to
iiiiiminii aim na sain. -No, i em
uirougn with lilm."
me witness aa'U that the next lime
ns met necger the poll. cmnn to). I Mm
ha waa through with Rosenthal and waa
going ahead with the rakl.
AID IT WAS WORTH $1,500 TO
"Tve got a Mm of that place."
necaer aiiKi, bjki I've arranged to have
Detectives Htelnorl an. I While got the
e-i mence. I Clou t . are about that mort
m. im uf worm ei.jUl to :nb tJ
meae mat raid. Pu-lnert and White
(the deteotlvea who were lndli'le.l for
rraming - HI Jack"' Zellg) will got In-
sm noeemnai a place and get all the
muence i neen.
n me ariernoon of the day of the
rata, nncaer told me he hu.l warrants
soured by Htetnert ami White and that
tia would make the raid thai night Hnd
arrest Rosenthal. Harry Firming, John
Doorman and John Wheelman. That
Might the raid was made, and I was
cross the street, In front of Burag'l
restaurant. RoaenthaJ Joined me there
and we stood there while the ra: ' waa
OSV- We saw the door amaahed. Tlien
a patrol wagon und all tli gambling
paraphernalia waa put In, with a prie
uner named Fleming, a nephew of Mrs
"I saw Decker next day at the t'nlon
Square. He aald that In police court
Herman had come to him and aald:
That'a a tough deal you gave me laat
flight' Decker aald he told Herman
Well, I had to do It. It waa either ui
to me or Cosllgnn (Limit Honest Dan)
to make the raid. If fnstlgsn had
Ce the raid I would hnve lost my
So I almtily had to make the raid
no your house.'
"Mocker aald that Herman said to him
ttkat he might have tipped him off about
the raid. Herman aald that It waa
tough deal, and aaked me to put It up
to Decker to turn the case down and
at of the police court.
"Becker said to Hosonthal then- !
can't do It In the police court, hut I'll
have the eaaa fixed up downtowi.
When White and Hit-Inert (to down tt
pedal Beaglotuj their testimony won't
hurt you, and Ah. cast will be thrown
Rose said that Rosenthal had con
j tinned to oomplaln to Decker and was
especially sore about the mortgage be
hid given on properly that belonged to
hie wife. Herman aald: "You've got to
quag thlg thing or I'll make a lot of
trouble for you. I'll have you broke "
a"Vfe taeeker beard this he came to
me," swore Rose, "and a-ild, 'Wl .it d,
Son think of the nerve of that fellow?' "
"Rosenthal then went Into court."
atlnued Rose, "and limit a. ted hll men I
to waive examln-ition. The n-xt dny
Becker asked me If I bad Neen Rosen
thal. I aald, no, not to tui( t
juvl ll-iseiith.il and he hu.l i
talk to ma, Bm ker inked
me what I heard of raid, and I an
swered that It i-.ii oguaad a lot ef talk.
Wa had da1',, tslka an I he was eon- I
tanlly asking me what Itoaentiial waa!
dalng. I told him Herman was begin-1
rdng to talk hciwuse a policeman waa
kept in Tils house. A few days later
Beckar told n. Indlctmi-at hud been
returne.1 stBglnat Rosenthal's men 1
to4 fclm J, waa sorry, for I feared ,
It would . .me. trouble."
Here the noise In the welterlngj
ourt room bccaii.e no gnat Jratlce
Ooff halted proceedings and ordered nil
Windows closed. The best became al
AOM LOSES HIS NERVOUSNESS
ON THE STAND.
A Roae warmed up to hie narrative
tola narvousiiese disappeared und his
Tolas ateadled down to a matter-uf-fact
XaAsr," eontlnusd Rose, "Decker
to my house and told nie Roaen
aad been calling hi in up dally,
Anxious Crowd Watching "Bridge of Sighs"
To Get Glimpse of Becker on Wan Back to Tombs
wanting a medlnar to tin. I out what
he was going to du u'aout the Indict
ments .Mil the stay of thoie police
men In his bouse. Decker refused to
see him atel b-rt orders that he was
KOt In' to R-iHerithiil. Hoon after that
Decker eald HoHCllthhl waa talking
round the street about Decker bav
in.: been hla pait'tor and that lie was
going to show him (ltecker) up.
"A few days later, Becker said
Commissioner Waldo ssnt for him
ad asksd If there was any truth
In the story that he waa Interested
In Mossathal's gambling houss.
Beckar said ha only laughed at
Mr. Waldo and had aald to hlmi
'Why, Mr. Commissioner, tbat Is a
funny story about a cop glvlmc up.
Usually the story Is that a police
man Is gsttlnr mousy not giving
UP money to gamhlsrs.'
Meeker toi.i me tbat Commissioner
Waldo didn't believe IhSSje statements
Decker said ho Just wanted to tell the
Commissioner v. hat rUPJlOfl sefS round.
"A little later Decker came to me and
said that h newspaper man had bean to
Waldo and wanted to Kit an Interview
shout Becker! midline of RogSHthl.
Thla reporter eald he bad m-i n lloeen
thal and had Ikii told c-rlalii t III hum
of a sensational character. Decker il l
the ( omnilssloner bail rsf USSd In grant
an Interview. Decker told me he waa
worried, as Herman waa djolttg a lot of
talking. I asked him v. hat WAS tin- o"e
of worrying so long aa Mr. Waldo be
lieved him ami wouldn't listen to the
rumors about Itoiienl bal.
"I asked Ib-i-ki r If t'n- poll. eniiin had
been taken out of RogenxthftPl houas
He said 'No.' I told him that aa long
aa the man atayed In lioeenthara ho ise
Rosentbsl would talk. I'harbv aald hsl At WBIimoay tweaar threw hlm
dld not care that Rosenthal could not"'" '" ,l s oh"" mad an In
do him any harm." audible exclamation. He wet hla lips
HIS TALKS WITH BECK ER ABOUT i " " 1 ',' .J" 1 Jh,J
NEWSPAPER STORIES. Unui
y. Did you talk to Decker about news-1 "Becker told ma: We ve Juhi g,t to
paper articles regarding Dei ker. A. I gel t.l- fellow out of the way. Jack
Backer said R
iftt ill lull Itit'l Iti't'ii I ry 1 R '-t 1 1 y , 1 1 1 1 y i ui K HQ w t lui I t h 1 1 n 1 1 it it ti t
tu Kft ni'Wimpr mum i to tut)Uh itorioaj up In Pollea HvAdtiuartem Is io itfong
itlMiut Itt'i kcr, but Ilfcktr huUI h wan I ARitltiHt lltTinuit ItoHt'iithnl that nny
not worfit'il "Jack SulMvan." h told j policeman Who WOUM orOAtl blm woiilJ
mc, "can control all the puptT anJ ! u m-t a mcilal '
i IkU) iioin puiiiiMiiinK .H,.itrM; umkii
J Were there any publl illnna ab 1 1
whl.h lleeker sBOtM 10 you? A. A.'ter
this Decker told me that The World
had rei-etved an altbliivlt from lb. a.- )
thai und that tuey were almut to pub
llah II This was on Sunday night,
Decker told ITM that he didn't Intend lo
answer Die charges In that affidavit hut
that be was going to The Wot Id wiln
bis cuunael and ask to see the affi
davit, lie a. ii.i that iiipi.tv Contmla
glonst McKay had toll Mm thai he hid
an action i"i- criminal lltwl agalaat Ito.
Q. Did Deck.-r say anything about
bis personal aliunde toward RpMhthalt
A. Hevernl limes - before the publica
tion of this story In Tim World
Decker talk.. I to me. Due day he
phoned nie to meet him at the Ulrton
rJuuare lintel. He said to ms! 'This
fi-iiuw Rosgnttial la trying to sgpoas
me us his lairtner and graftar. He la
trying to break me. He has tiled to
see fommlaeloner Waldo and has j
phoned blm. but the ''oiiimlsslonel hag
I refused to talk to Is! m. He hua tried I
I to get the papers to print his story, but I
failed He has trie.) t.. ee Magistrate
Corrtffnn. hu i-.- would do nothing, lie
has tried io tell Chief Mauls' rate
McAdoo that the warrants on which I
! raided tils place Were secured on per- i
l.iietl teatltnony. He baa tit.al to gas
Mayor tlaynor and the Mayiir wool I i
not ae.. him Mow hs Is directing ble
attention toward the District att or
nsy'a olllcs, and that Is gsttlng danger
ons. Ms must be stopped."
"I eubl to Deck.-r. I don't believe
you need to care' He. ke
lleve be mtans to do ne
to stop blm '
- eald. 'I be-
and I vm tint
" 'That ought to bs easy enough.'
I said. Bscksr salds 'But I wan't to
bars a asrlous talk with you. I
want you to do a favor for ms. Tou
knuw Big Jack Bellg and he Is a
friend of years and hs would do a
favor for you. Bs Is In bad, out on
(10,000 ball, and ws ought to bs
abls to uss him you know what I
mean. There Is only ons thing- to
do with a fallow Rks Bossnthal.'
Bsoksr said, 'and that Is to stop
him so that hs will bs stoyped for
"I said, 'What do you mean?'
Hs sstd, 'Thsrs Is a fsllow who
ought to gat off ths earth. The
Lea now la to go aosnstnlng.' I
THE EVENING WORLD, SATURDAY, OCTOBER
said, 'What do you mean?' ate re
plied 'Thsrs is a fallow X want
croaksd.' I aald, 'Thsrs are other
ways of handling Rosenthal.' 'BJo,'
he said, 'he must be croaked.
" '1 would have no ai-tupics against
Sin,' Dicker nail. 'I want to tell you
something. I rod downtown In a taxi
with Harm an Hoaenthal laat night, i
could Mot help It. He talked lll'lillt fOU
'. and memtiera of your family. That Is
i gratitude for you, Isn't II? Why, I
1 know ivhut yon did lor him all arlnler
how ou paid Ida tent and f.-. hint and
now he la talking at. out your woman.
That's gratitude, Isn't HI Why, l
I iieliied him gave 111 in l, ram and had to
Viae It lo save niv own Job and now
i.c a trying to -get mc.
" "That fellow la not good enough
to lies. He's go to bs croaksd.'
"I aald. 'Charlev, Unit la faint too
Irons. We can do it dlffsrsntly. Ttwra
are people uptown whom I ciiti go to
and who will K to Herman and t.-l!
I 'm to quit talkttlt. That will be
NOT ASKING FAVORS FROM
"Ilicller lui.ie.l oil tile angrily.
! vmi think.' he demanded, that I
I going to aak favors or Rossntnal
hs has to bs croaked.' I ald,
I'haib-v. thai won't do. I can get
beat up g I and can tell him be
Kcl worm If he doe-n't atop.'
i '"Why, i Id beat him up myMif,1
I shouted ltecker 'I could raid Hume
IgeMtlbllng hougg and beat him for re
Hlatlng an olflcer t wsnt him shot, his
throat cut, dynamited X don't cars
what. Just so bs Is killed.'
cays fl F ckFR
would to go
n lo- I old me to go and SSS Zellg
Tomba and i.fiei- him lioo if ha
look aftl r It He also told me
and see 'Ittldgle Wel.lnr and
Vallon. Becker nuve ma 1M to
snl to tea Bsllg and told bin'
what We wantet hlu: to do. I offer. -d
blm the 1100, I duB'l want Slim,' mi1
Zellg, 'What I want Is to get out of
Una pr-sem. Ticy "frgmgd" me up and
put nie In here. Now I Want to get out.
I won't lung off anything for you wiille
I'm lo. ki d up rtrr. liel me out llrsl, If
you want to talk nualnagg,1
"i wsni ba ok to Baokar and told him
thai Kong ani l be w ouldn't do un thing
while he w.ta in b.'l I sail I'd given
him MOD, I. ul that what he wanted was
lo get out at J.i u. 'Well, he won t get
out, iiuinu bin" sail Hi gar. 'l..t hlm
rot their Thus the mat of him uuU
hla gang. I'll finish Uicui all off."
"I told Decker 1 knew some friends of
.eitg'.a who mtgh croak lioaanthal and
thus get CMI( out. Ileoker told tile to
do so ami to assure them that no barm
would com-' to the ui.iti who killed
Rpssnthal 1 went to the h uiae on
Southern BoulsVafd and saw 'Lefty
LjOula' and 'W'hlicv' I.ewLs and miUI to
them: 'I came to warn Noil that Decker
i ml bis strong arm suad are prepar
ing to frame roil 'or lurrying guns,
J let like they .11,1 hVtlg.' They gggad
why und 1 Midi 'Herman ItOSSttthaJ
hits be. n sun sling I gained Decker.
lleeker fe.lH that vi.ll fellows owe It to
' him I
that ltoseiith.il duet not ap
pear to ntAne UuU aqusal,'
" 'They asksd ms If I wanted
Bosontlml croaksd. I said, 'yss.'
They asked me If I had ssen gellg.
I said gellg wsntsd ths Job dons.
'Oh. sll right ' thsy said, 'ws will
croak blm now to-night. If yuu
want us to.' ,
"I od them to wall there until I
issine ba.-k 1 wen' to see ltecker and
told him eveii thing was all right that
Zellg a til. -.. la were on the (jog and that
he miuU sped Kaaanlha crogfcad any
day. Decker Mid, 1 hope that Is so.
Now tell those fellows they line noth
ing o fear and tint I will take care i
ivi-M ii-.-iii who bad a hand In It.'
"A couple of days passsd by and
Basksr oaUsd at any houas ons
morning and said! 'Bossathal la
still st It, but I don't sss thoss
fellows at It.'
TO GUNMEN WITH
"I said, 'Charlie,
the Job and tin v
any day now.' 1
house on Houlhern
IhOSS fellowa are on
mifht to do It most
again went to the
llonlevntd and Saw
Lefty Ixiuls. I told him Decker w is
r., , ,., ...,., ,
wanted somsthlng don... i told Ufty
laiuls that Beckar aald If something I
waan'l done there d he trouble over th
iie. w.o-'. ,-o. in... 1 .l.-ttiaml. .1 thai Una.. I
foni'ali the dates of these Interviews .
but the I'otirt Berinlt tisl the witness to I
u.i shaad wllh liU jim.isliiir tale of irrrtfl .
anil n.unl.-r. Not
Uphold the dt-fi-nsi
"I aild. all right
lid Justice Q0ff
I will see you In n
day or IW0. If I do not come, I will
send soma one to take you to whore
ltoaeiitn.il la. 1 told Decker the next
.1 i v tha fellows sers on the Job and
thai it would happen soon.
"In a conpls of days Bscksr
cams to me and said: 'T'-.sy havs .'t
dons that job. It begins to look
llks I'll l.ave to do It myself.' X
told htui ths men were only wait
ing to inset Rosenthal d. wntowu.
'Why meet him doarntown? Oroak
him anywhere. Break Into his
honss. I'll taks cars of them.'
"Two days later Decker Maid: 'You.
are stalling, or else those fellows take
no stock In your story that I will pro
tect them.' I hiiI. I they probably did
not believe me. He aaked if BrldglS
Webber knew the men snd could help
ma. I ail. I Its OOUId. He told me to
get Webber thnt night and come up to
Harlem to meet him. Wllh Vallon and
Sohappi I got Into an auto and went
io Brldgls'i in Forty-second itraat
Hrldgle Wasn't there, and I left Sehappi
then, lo bring him. Vallon und my
a. If went at once to line Hundred and
Twenty-fourth street und Seventh ave
nue. QUOTES BECKER AS ASKING
BRIDGIE TO HELP.
"Iteclli r wasn't there. I Went Into a
Cigar store to get soma cigarettes und j
when I came out I found Decker In
eonvarsaUon With Harry Vallon. He
SBaeU me W lure ei.oer W .1 a .iul 1 MIO
hc was coming soon- WSDDsr camel
along a little lat.-r and we all st.-od
ground talking about Rosenthal. Bacbnr
told at. nit ths elfortg Rosenthal w as
miking Io rtsacfl the District-. tttorngy,
He slid: '1 was Informed to-day by
Jack Sullivan that Hoaenthal U trying
to arrange a matting with District-Attorney
Whitman.1 Up to that time the
Dtstrlot-Attornty had refuged to meet
"Bscksr said to Wsbbsrt 'Brldgls,
why didn't yon Lslp jack ln this
thing and havs that fsllow aVossa
Webber aald he was afraid of trou
ble. "'There won't be any trouble,
Drldgle .' mii 1. 1 Decker. 'I'll attend to all
tbat. I'll look after all of you.
ahead now and help lack oroak
said lie WOUld In lp
of having Roaenthal
"Then Decker and
and talked When
awhile and then
out In the matter
Drldgle Went aside
they .-lime back,
would help and In-
De. ker mil. i Webber
want.-d Hi.- .lob dom
ijllb-kly. Next day
De.ker uslve.i me what bad been done.
I told him 1 nai sure that with Webber
on tin- job, UoMnthal would bo croukid
"A few diiva later I met 'Lefty boult1
and told hl u Decker hud enlisted the
old of Webber and ibat Webber would
soon come to see blm about croaking
Rose's voice began to crack a little
after he had been on the stand two
houia, and he eent for glass after
glass of wal' t Then lie seemed to get
his second wind, raised his voice again
gnd spoke ..ut. In dea. rlh ng the con
vsrsatlon be had with 'Lstny Louie,1
Uehber and Vallon, be Imitated the
ton. . f thsll vol' es. but when be quoted
Dscker be spoke 111 a Hut, OOlOrttM
vol, e, carefully avoiding letting his
i,m .- r"im to the prisoner's, tabu.
TOLD LEFTY NOT TO TAKE Orl-
DERS FROM WEBBER.
told Lefty," pursued the wittiess,
"I did not wsnt him to tako orders from j
Webber that th.-re were too many io
ple netting mixed up In It. A few days
la ti r- It waa now In July I was in
Mtllls's rsjatauranl With Harry Vallnn.
Wrhb r called me out and aald I was
eantsd at the lifaytte Hatha. The:e I
found l.erty Lotlia, Oyp the Dlood and
Imgo Ki-atik. They said Webber told
them Iwanted to see them. I asked
liule wlu-re hn nv-t Webber. He aald
"' ""' ' "" " "Y"
that Rosenthal matter. He said we
wHI 11 ,lt 3 "l0,'k ln the
"'"'-'',,., , ., . . ,
1 VVDb,r and lie Htarted ahead
of na to find Rosenthal. In another t.ixl
WWII Vail. in. myself. My
all. .n. myself, oyp, l.erty
Prank, Wa w.nt to Wsbber!
place at Sixth avenue and I-'orty-second
t. lie sent lis to n OhOD-gUSy res-
taurant on l-
rty-fourth street tn wait
for him. He came later and told Vallon
that Herman, Mrs. Rosenthal and
Jack' Sullivan were In tho Oarden
Real iiirant. In Fiftieth street.
PRESENCE OF BURNS MAN POST
"We all started there. We left the
gunman In front of the New York
Theatre, and they went to the Oarden.
Later I went alone to see bow things
w.ie getting on. I saw- the three gun
men In the shadows.
I called Itsfty aside and pointed
ont a man across . eg street ana
eald! "Tnat man la a Barns detec
tive whom Whitman has appointed
to guard KossntheL Tou can't
croak him now. aire up the lob
"They did, and Just as the three run
men left Rosenthal his wife and "Jack"
Sullivan came out of the restaurant.
"The next day I mot Decker and he
said: 'What's the matter with that
Hoaenthal Job.' See Mm around every
night big us life. I told him what hud
hapnanad at 'be Oardan Restaurant and
i.ow the gunmen had been scared off.
m -Till them,' said Becker, 'there
Isn't anything to be scared of.
Thsy don't need to be frightened
off by any detective. Why, yon can
tell them to go up and shoot Bos
enthal ln front of a policeman and
It will be all rigut. xnsy won't
get In any trouble over It-'
"On July Decker plumed n.e that
HoSC nthal had made
an aflldavit for
morning World that was a few
lavs before the murder, necaor saia
he wag trying to prevent ns puunrsiion
and was going tn ask for the original
of the affidavit so he could start crim
inal libel suits against Rosenthal
ltecker said, If you bad been on ths
Job, like you said. I would not be In
this predicament.' "Oh." i sid, "it is not
1. 1.. We will get him yet before
be can do you any harm."
TALKED IT OVER AT THE SAM
1 said: 'I'm going to the Sam I'aul
outing to-m irrow, and I'll have a long
i.lk wirh Vallon anil Webster. Refer
we conic back we'll have some definite
..i.,.. o.i .,n Next dav we went to
the OUtlng. We all bought the Sunday
World. We read Rosenthal's affidavit.
We saw that Decker's name wasn't
mentioned, but we knew who was meant
and decided not to huve any more de
lay. There were several hundred men on
thai outing, but we managed to talk It
all over together. 1 said to Webber ibat
Roaenthal gg surely going to squeal
and go to the District-Attorney. The
boat made n landing lit the foot of Kast
Twenty-sixth street and I went to a
telephone. 1 got Decker on the phone,
and be asked me about the sentiment at
the Sam 1'nul outing. I toiu nun m
th.- sentiment v.a ail for elmthat we
talked to most all tno men on inr
and that none m me
Rosenthal wus going to cio
AFFIDAVIT Or R0SEN-
THAL'S FIRST WIFE.
"Decker nske.l nie If there wasn't any
chance of killing Rosenthal that night,
before he could get to the Orsnd Jury
I aald I would see. Then he asked tilu
about Dora Gilbert Rosenthal's, first
etfe, Hn galled ma 10 persuade her to
make an affidavit about Rosenthal's life
with her. ng some other people he
i I Mnt had failed. Then Webber
i illust on the phono with Decker. Then
Webber. Vallon and myself went up to
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Fourteenth street, r.nd they asked me to
rind Dora Gilbert. Vnllon and I went
to a house on Fourteenth street and met
Mrs. Signal, and she went out and
brought Horn (Jllbert back. I asked
Dora If elm would make the affidavit for
P.-lrr Af that time ahe refused
"Next day I went to Arverne. where
my home la. I tame ba.-k the name af
ternoon. At Fourteenth street I got
an auto snd hegan looking for Harry
Vallon. ending at the Lafayette baths.
Jack Sullivan cams. In, and 1 talked to
him. I then went to Drtdgle Webber's
and asked him to go down on the east
side to see IVillsr John end Abe Hnhlo
Then I went to the baths. There lleeker
phoned me. asking If Jack Sullivan had
been to see me about the subpoenas Is
sued by Whitman for Hollar John. Abe
Huhlo and Abe tor Reveller. Ha asked
mc If I would see them end get Assur
ances from them that they would not
corroborate Rosenthal's testimony. I
told blm t was not friendly with Dollar
John, hut that 1 had sent Webber to
See them, and that I expected to hear
from him Immediately.
"Decker asked mo If I'd are Dora Gil
bert. I said that I was to see her that
night. Decjier said bo was sending two
men to me and that I waa to take them
I Hp to see Dora Gilbert. He said I want
: you to take them up there and get the
affidavit. 1 want It for use In to-mor
row s newspapers.
SAYS BECKER WAS IMPATIENT
"Then Decker began talking about the
delay over the Rosenthal matter. He
said: 'Why Is there all this delay, all
this staging and holding off? You isn't
tell me that this thing couldn't have
been done before this' I said: 'OharJIe,
I've done the heat I could.'
" 'But yoa havsn't done anything,'
be aald. 'So something and do It
quick. To-night Is th time be
for h goes before ths Grand Jury.'
" 'All right,' I said. 'I'll try and dp It
to-night.' I walled at the baths Jntll
Sam Hchepps, Webber and Smith camo
up. They had dinner with me.
"After dinner we remained In the
baths until 9 o'clock. Then I waa called
to the phone by Harry Vallon and went
to the Sain I'aul Club, where I called
en automobile. 'Jack' Sullivan spoke to
me and I took blm to Madia, n Hiiuare
Oarden. Then I went to Dora Gilbert s
and found Vallnn, K-h.-p;.s. Mrs. Gil
bert, Mrs. Signal and Pint at work on
the affidavit. I suggeated some changes.
H hgn It wsa completed. I phoned the
Morning Telegrsph and they sent man
for copy of the affidavit I'lltt ke.it
the original. Then I went In the auto
to Fiftieth street and Klglith avenue,
where I dropped the Telegraph man
and went to Dora Gilbert's and then to
1 Tom Sharkey's place. In Fourteenth
street, where I got another car.
THEY GET ABOARD THE GRAY
"Vallon, Scheppa and maelf got In.
It was a gray car, driven by William
Shapiro We went to No. SIT Seventh
avenue and met 'Dago' Frank. I had
often seen 'Gyp,' 'Wnltoy' and 'Lefty'
there. When we got there I sent
Kchepps In to ring the bell. A head
popped out of the window and I rec
ognized liago' Frank. He came down
and I asked where the rest of the crowd
waa and he said they were on their
w-uy downtown. He got ln and we
drove to Forty-second street and Sixth -avenue.
There Drldgle Webber. 'Lefty
Louie," 'Whltey' Lewis and Gyp the
Dlood' met us In front of Webber's
gambling house. We all went Into;
Webber's poker room 'Dago' Frank,
Oyn,' 'Lstfty Louie," Vallon, Sohepps. j
Webber and minelf. We sat down and
had refreshments served. Webber went
out. and when he returned he said,
Rosenthal Is around In the Motropole.'
"Kvery one arose Immediately and
started for the door. There were Ioule, j
Lewis, Gyp, Dago Frank. Vallon and
Webber who went, 1 aaked Schepps to
stay with me."
Did you see Jack BulllvanT A. I
do not remember.
Q. What happened next? A. I was
standing up ut a couch In the place
when word came In that Herman Ros
enthal had been shut. (This answer was
Q. When did you leaver A. About 3
o'cluck In the morning. I sent down-
stslrs for a sandwich. Then I went to
the Times Square Dull. ling to telephone.
SAYS BECKER CC NGRATULATED
HIM ON HIS WORK.
1 called him up at bis bom. I
Kallo, thsrs. Old you hear
ths news?' Tea,' be replied,' !
oongratulat you!' 'Bow did you
get It so soon?' I asksd. 'Oh,' said
Becker, 'I got It from newspaper
'Decker said then that he could come
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g Where Is that? A. At Broadway
and Forty-second street.
Rose said that Decker went into Web
ber's place and then they Joined
ftchepps and Vallon and began talking
about the murder.
"Brldgle." eald Boas, "opened
the conversation by saying i "Well,
ths Job Is dons.' 'Tss,' aald Becker,
'I am glad of It." I asked Mm what
caused his dslay ln coming down
town. Ms said hs stopped at ths
station honss 'Whitman was
thsrs,' hs said. 'That msana dan
ger. I warned 'Don't axclte your
self, hs aald. 'They haven't any
thing. They've got several num
bers of automobiles, and oone of
them right" -
"I'se Decker's exact language," or
dered District-Attorney Whitman. Ross
leaned forwurd and faced the Jury.
HE CALLED IT A
"I asked Decker," he said, "If he had
seen Rosenthal. "Sure," he said. '1 went
In the back room and had a look at
him. It waa a pleasing sight to ms to
look at ths Jsw thsrs. If It was not
for the prsasncs Of District Attorney
Whitman I would have out Ms tongue
out and hung It np aomswhsre aa a
warning to othsr aqnsalsrs. How, do
not worry. Bs Is dsad and that Is ths
snd of it. Ths only thing to do no
te to see that thoss fellows (ths gun
msn) get away and stay away for
fsw daya until this thing blows over.
"I told Decker 1 needed money and he
told Drldgle to give me a thousand
dollars and that he would make It good
to Webber. Then he told me to give
the money to the four men who had
done the killing."
Rjse ssld ho went from Webber's with
Vallon to the Lafayette Maths. From
there he went to his home. Then he
went to Fiftieth street and Klgblh ave
nue, where he had met Sam Schepps.
He had talked over the murder with
Schepps. With Schepps he went to the
home of Harry Tollok In the Rlvleia
Apartments. Arriving there, Rose went
BECKER CALLED HIM UP AT
Later, while In Pollok's apartment, be
Mid, ltecker had called him up. Decke
satd: "1 Just saw 1'olluk and he told m
where you were. It's s good place for
you. Follok said you were sick."
"Yes," Rose testified he replied, "I am
worn out sick in mind and body."
"Decker sal I for me to cheer up an1
not to worry, as everything would be
all right. 'Now, you cheer up. Jack,'
Decker said. 'Take some quinine and
go to bed and get some sleep, that'll
brace you. That s what you need. You
will be all right In a few days."
"Decker called me up the next day
and asked me how 1 felt. I said I was
still feeling pretty bail.
"Then I aaked hint whs waa the
news. 'Oh, there's not much
news,' he aald. 'There are only
about two hundred pouoemen
looking for yon. But dent yon
worry, yonll be taken oare of.
Lay low and stay Just where yon
"I said I had something to worry
1 sbnut, but he urged mc to keep quiet
and thnt It would all blow over. Then
i he asked me to conic down to Lawyer
Hart's ofneo In DroaJ street. What.'
said I, 'with 200 cops looking for nie!
I Nothing doing'. ' He said. Well, I'll
send Hart to you I want you to g.va
hlm an affidavit that It was you who
loaned Rosenthal thnt tLaMV I said,
"That's a funny thing to think of now.
when ."00 cops are looking for me and
besides, people would know I had no
tl.faK).' He said. 'That's right. You get
Pollok to give you an affidavit that he
loaned you the money" I said. 'That
won't do. for Polloh Isn't overburdened
with money.' He said, 'Well, get him
to swear he got It from his partner,
GETS THE SIGNAL HART WAS
"I asked Becker It It wasn't unsafe
to have any one know where I wus.
He said. 'Well. I'll tell Mr. Hart to say
he Is J. H- When he gets there. Slid
you'll know he Is safe.' That night Mr.
Hart came and Insisted that I sign th-j
affidavit, and seemed very anxious for
Harry Tollok to come In so he could
get a corroborative affidavit from hit..
Mr Hart was with me for more than an
hour. He wrote out an affidavit, which
I signed and WbiOh he tuuk away wltii
At this rx.lnt 1 o'clock Justice Ooff
halted Rose's narrative and ordered a
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