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YouV ou LXVIII ...N°- 22,649.
TAFf PRAISES ROOT
WOULD LIKE HIM I\ HIS
LABI SET.
Leader* at Hot Springs Think Sec
retary If 111 Be Elected Senator
— A Conference Held.
Hot Sprint:?. Vs., Nov. 18. —Than was a con
ference at the Taft cottage nere this afternoon
on New- York politics and general political af
fairs, and especially regarding persons and
measures pertaining to the next administration.
The conferrees were President-elect Taft, Vice
ast-etoet Sherman and "William L. Ward,
Republican National Commltteeman from New
York. The President-eJect arrived from Cincin
nat! this morning, and the \~lce-Presldent-elect
and Mr. Ward left here to-night. Mr. Sherman
T»i!l stop in Washington and in Philadelphia be
fore reaching.his New York horn* 1 .
While no one at the conference ■wishes to be
quo**>d on the subject, it may be stated as the
opinion of a!? that Secretary Root will be the
successor of 1* C. Platt in the United States
Senate. ' This, of course, is based on the under
standing that Mr Root wishes the place Mr.
T«*t haaTaad BO hesitation from th* first in giv
ing positive expression to his desire to retain
Mr Root as Secretary of State In his Cabinet.
He has also said that if his persuasion could
prevail the Secretary would keep his portfolio.
Mr Root is pre-eminently a statesman." said
Mr. TaXt to-day in referring to his cordial feel
•-C and admiration for the Secretary. "He has
the roost wonderful faculty for planning In de
tail ff>r the •":•.•-<•. both v.-jth respect to domestic
affaire ar.d international relations, of any one I
have ever kiywn. He has such a plan for the
development of our relations with the South and
Central American countries. Such plans, as In
deed BMK of true statesmanship in any direc
tion, must be worked out step by step, with pa
tifnee and time.""
It is the understanding here that one of the
principal reasons Bar Mr. Root's desire to be
relieved of Cabinet duty is that he and Mrs.
Hoot may be rid of the somewhat exacting so
cial duties required of the" Secretary of State.
It is understood that Mr. Sherman gave it as
his opinion to Mr. Taft at the conference that
Speaker Cannon would continue to hold that
office in the 61st Congress.
MR. TAFTS EXPLANATION.
Further details -were not obtainable, the ex
planation given by Mr. Taft being that "it was
8 genera! talk regarding many matters and per
sons. just such talks as I desire and expect to
have with party leaders and those men who had
to do with the. campaign, and as a result of
•which In the end I shall be able to form opinions
and make decisions. There was nothing definite
done, nor was there discussion of a character
that ■I publicity would be either interesting or
opportune.**
Mr. Taft to-n!ght sent this dispatch of con
gratulation to Cuba, through Governor Magoon:
I congratulate the Cuban people on the su
premacy of km and order in the crisis of a
national election and upon the peaceable choice.
after an honest ballot and a fair count, of the
candidate of the majority. I congratulate' you.
Colonel Croxrder and the election commission
tpnrs Th*'fTJCc*»J»sful execution of _ the electoral
law. prepared by the commission and supervised
and executed by you. I congratulate General
<soTnez upon hi election to be President of Cuba
tcc>r such, favorable auspice?. I wish for him
s. pucresrftf! administration and for the Cuban
republic long life and prosperity.
"VISIT TO CUBA IN DOUBT.
v- Taft expressed doubt to-night of his ability
to go to Cuba to witness the withdrawal of the
American and the inauguration of the Cuban
administration. T'r ■= will take place at a time
•B-hen he will be engrossed with the affairs of
his own administration. He had desired to put
r.Tf decisions regarding his Cabinet and other
matters as long a* possible In order ; that .. as
much time as possible for consultation find con
sideration may be had. There is another view of
his visiting Cuba which has been advanced, and
that is that his presence as the n»xt President
of the United States would have a tendency to
disarrange th* details of the affair and perhaps
overshadow to some extent the real event and
persons directly concerned in it.
The President-elect was met at the train on
his arrival here this morning by Mrs. Taft. It
is his purpose to remain here until December 6.
The snow which has eloped the Virginia
mountains since his departure last Friday dis-
Eppeared rapidly to-day under a bright sun, and
exercise in the open air will be resumed to-
BROTHER KILLS LAWYER.
Then Fatally Shoots Himself—
• Quarrelled Over Estate.
"{By TVltsrapft to The Trfbtß*.]
Plitsburg. Nov. IS. Reuben Crown, whose
home until six months ago was in New York
City, is dead, and bis brother. Joseph Crown, a
prominent attorney- of this city, is dying here to
right. • I
Reuben nent to th* 1 office of his brother and
demanded money. He wai» refused. Immedi
ately he pulled a, revolver from his pocket, fired
a bullet into the back of his brother Joseph, who
n-a= placing some law books on a shelf, and then
f.red a sfcend shot throagn the roof of his own
mouth. It was seme time before the door could
b«- forced optr.. Then ibaa was fc-und dead.
while his brother Joseph was hurried to the
Homoeopathic Hospital. Joseph was thirty
eight years old, while Reuben was forty-two.
-fh«-r*- wiis some property left when the parents
cf the brothers died, and Joseph was made trus
tee. About six months ago Reuben came here
from New Tork and registered at a local hotel.
X^eh iicy he called on Joseph and demanded
Dxmey. He was paid to be unsteady in his
habits.
ANSWERS SPIRITS (ALL.
Professor Barnes's Wife Thus Ex
plains His Suicide.
IBy-T>l*«rsph to Th* Tribune.]
Boston, Nov. IS. — Professor William A Barnes,
ti»e psychologist, who took his own life last
right, had delved so deeply into the realms of
the beyond and .. : .... so much at the occult that
he was forced to follow the beckoning of im
inorui! hands and ... the unknown, according
t«» th« •■■.•■ saaa of his wife to-day.
"He knew too much of the world beyond.' «h*
rz.iL 'For six years the spirits have warned
him that his kaonl^dge was not for mortal man.
He thought to evade the responsibility by keep
leg his knowledge to hlmrelf, but only ■ week
■as be told me that the. message had come, that
b*- had *aten'of the fruit of the tree of knovvl
fige to leng that it was on . a question of a
&»y whfn the spirits would ■II him and he
*
DEWEY'S CLARETS AND OLD BURGUNDY.
Taken wi'Ji tne m*-a! wjrfehe" the °J OO « J - V «rir
H. T. Dorsy & Sou. Co.. IC4 Kulion St~ New iork.
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To-<Ur, fair.
T»-n»nmnr. fair: variable- wind*.
MORITZ ROSENTHAL,
BIG DOIVXTOWX SALE.
New Office Building at Liberty and
Nassau Streets. .
According to a report yesterday, the Bryant
Building, at the northwest. corner of Liberty and
Nassau streets, and the Freedman Building, ad
joining on the north and fronting in Nassau
street, have been sold to a building . syndicate
which intends to erect upon the premises at the
expiration of the present lease an office building
to'cost^iSTOOOO. About five months ago John
X. Golding sought a buyer for the corner pa rep 1.
It is" said that the sale of the properties and the
proposed building will represent an investment
of about ?4,000,1J00. .
The Bryant Building is on- of the landmarks
of the financial district. It occupies a plot front
ing about sfi f e* t <>n Liberty street, about fcfi
feet on Liberty place and about 83 feet on
Nassau street. Th« Freedman Building, which
is owned by Daniel B. Freedman. has a f-ontage
of 28 feet on the street and a depth of about
66 feet. The Rryant Building is owned "by the
Bryant Building t'ornpany. <>f which Harold
Oodwin is the head. Just east of the Bryant
Building, and fronting on Liberty street, is the
palatial home of the Chamber of Commerce.
rorxG doctor suicide.
Despondent Over . Health and In
ability to Help Parents.
Perm Tan. N. -Y., Nov. IS. — Despondency over
The- state of his health and his inability to give
his parents the 'financial beta they needed were
the apparent reasons for the suicide by shooting
of Dr. B. A. Venooy, of Pultney. in a hotel here
late to-day. -The suicide left a letter addressed
to his parents which explained his act.
"I always thought I was going to . get well."
the letter said" in part, "and always thought I
was going to succeed. Fa en now I cannot re
alize that I am at the end. "Will I have the
courage to do it? If I had my health or could
help you in any way I would never, never leave
you. Will God punish me for doing something
I am driven to" when there is no other way? - I
have thought about this thing for months, trying
to see some way out, but cannot. I would not
wait until I had spent every cent and leave you
destitute. The money will keep you until you
can collect the Insurance. Oh, how I long to
live for your Mffcefl and my own! There is no
reason for my death except as I have given. I
have done nothing dishonorable."
PAX AM A BOXD ISSUE
Secretary Cortclyou to Offer $30,
000,000 2 Per Cents.
Washington, Nov. 18. — Secretary Cortelyou
late to-day announced that be would receive
bids up to the close of business on December 5
for $30,000,000 Panama Canal bonds, or any part
thereof, to bear 1 per cent interest. The bonds
will be dated November 1, 1908, thus making
this a new issue, and interest will begin as of
that date. The bonds will be redeemable-in gold
in ten years' from their date, and payable in
thirty years. The" Secretary requires each- bid
to be accompanied by a certified check for 2 per
cent of the amount.
The issue will be In denominations of $20.
$100 and $1,000 of coupon bonds, and of $20. $100,
$1,000 and $10,000 of registered bonds. They will
be exempt from all taxes or duties of the United
States, as veil ■■ taxation in any form under
etate. municipal or local authority. 'The bonds
will be available to national banks as security
for circulation and public deposits.
BLAMES EARTHWORMS FOR CANCER.
Buffalo Nov. iS.-The Buffalo Academy of .Medi
cine last night heard a new theory «« to th* origin
of cancer. Dr. Hiram D. Walker said that sever.
years' experiment had piovfd to his natlafaction
x- „< cancer was a parasitic disease, an.i that \m
common pardon norm was the -source, of the para-
Bit* which' produced cancer. The transmission or
the parasite from the worm %m Om human beins
.m*- from the worm crawling over fre.»n vegeta
bles whJch were afjerw&rd eaten.
BRIARCLIFF MILK
Owing to an increnecd i«uppiy additional orders
cai now be tilted. .Rich, pure milk frcm healthy
Jersey" o** Ea*t MCB Street. Phone 227 8-38.— Advt.
NEW-YORK, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 1908. -TWELVE PAGES.
JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER AND COUNSEL GOING TO THE CUSTOM HOUSE.
GER3IA?fY DUBIOUS YET
EMPEROR'S ACT XOT CLEAR
Radicals Want Ministry Subordi
nated to Beichsta'g.
Berlin, Nov. 7 18.— The German Emperor' has
given his Imperial pledge to hold himself Tjiihln
close constitutional bounds hereafter In matters
concerning affairs of state, but, though the sit
uation has cleared, serious questions have' arisen
in political circles as to the significance of the
Emperor's action with respect to the future re
lations between the Reichstag and the execu
tive branch of the government. - *
While calm observers Interpret the Emperor's
surrender of what he , had considered his pre
rogative as registering a remarkable victory for
public opinion, they fully recognize the fact that
it leaves Germany far- removed from popular
government. The Emperor, it is pointed out.
yielded to the most impressive demonstration of
the people's will ever Been in Germany, but an
occasion can hardly arise once in a generation
when the minds of the whole people are fixed
with such unanimity upon a single demand, as
in this case.' .
Yet even under th°sf unusual circumstances,
the Reichstag, when the subject of the Emperor's
intervention In national affairs came up for
debate, was unable to agree upon the simple
course. of sending an address to the Emperor,
setting forth the views of the members «■•' the
Reichstag, who were one in their opposition to
his majesty's course. No action could be taken
because the Conservatives refused to co-operate,
on the pretext that the Reichstag did not possess
the right to address the Crown. The Radicals
and Socialists intend to attempt to pass a reso
lution demanding an amendment to the constitu
tion making the ministers responsible to the
Reichstag, but. It is already certain that this
resolution will be rejected.
! The Conservatives will present a united front
: against all proposals of. this kind. They have
! everything to gain and nothing to lose in main
! tair.ir.g the present system, under which they
! supply the ministers of the Crown by traditional
! right, and fill all the valuable diplomatic, mili
1 tary and civil positions in the gift of the govern
! ment. As conditions are now. they are in a
I position to create an atmosphere of political
! Ideas which can cover the governmental poll
\ cies, whereas a change to parliamentary govern -
I rnent will signify the surrender of immemcrial
privilege! on their part. Their Interest, there
fore, manifestly lies in keeping the Emperor and
: the Cabinet free from parliamentary control,
j since under normal circumstances the Conserva
tives are able to shape public policy.
The Clerical party and the Liberal party are
i not likely to agree to support an amendment
shifting ministerial responsibility wholly to the
Reichstag, thus leaving only the Radicals and
Socialists, with the possible assistance of the
Poles, making together barely one-fourth the
membership of the House, to support an out
and-out demand for parliamentary government.
It is further pointed out that a lack of large
unified parties unfits Germany for parliamentary
•government. It would be Impossible, with the
present multiplicity of parties in the Reichstag,
ito bring enough homogeneous elements to
gether for the forming of a compact majority,
capable of working together harmoniously for
any length of time. - Even Chancellor yon Bil
low's present alliance of Conservative and Lib
eral elements has shown on more than one occa
sion signs at disintegration, yet those "b!oc"
parties would contemplate with dismay a situa
tion where the Clericals, Socialist? and other
opposition parties might get a majority of the
seats from the coalition and demand to take the
reins of government.
For these reason* men bast acquainted with
the political characteristics of the German peo
ple vay that it will require a long prriod of prac
tical schooling in politics before a parliamentary
government can. be introduced with beneficial
results for the Fatherland.
SEABOARD'S YEAR ROUND LIMITED.
i»Avln? X T. 1:55 J\ M.. commencing' Nov. 2Dth.
Will arrive Jacksonville 4:50 P. M. Absolutely
quickest Florida train. Office tUI H.l«y.. Cor. 28Ui.
—Advt. ;>v^--.- .
JOHN D ROCKEFELLER,
THE LABOR DINNER
lillV PRESIDENT GAVE IT.
Further Conferences Held — White
House Doors Open to AIL
"Washington. Nov. IS.— Further conferences at
the White House to-day, in which the President
and men prominer-t in labor matters took part,
made the attitude of the administration toward
proposed labor legislation a subject of keen dis
cussion in Washington to-night. Among those
who saw tee President to-day were Charles P.
Neiil. Commissioner of Labor: Henry L. Ptim
son. United States attorney at New York. Ed
ward J. Gavegaa, of New York, attorr
labor unions, and Charles H. Sherrill. an at
torney of New York, all of whom attended the
labor dinner at the White House last night.
11 is learned from the highest authority that
tne object of the President in giving a dinner
to friends of labor and in holding the subse
quent conferences was primarily to bring about
a better understanding between representatives
of the government and labor lea'W r<=. ar.d to im
press on the labor interests of the country the
disposition of the administration to receive their
representatives in conference on an oquaiity with.
all others. The desire of the President, it was
explained, was to have the labor man feel that
he had a right to present his grievances and de
mands, and to demonstrate that "neither the
labor leader nor the millionaire need come to
the hßck door of the White House at midnight
in order to have a conference with the Presi
dent."
It was suggested that a mere invitation to the
White House was not to be taken as conclusive
evidence of an agreement between those invited
and the administration on the questions under
discussion or on subjects that might develop
later.
While the President believes that this attitude
of the administration had been demonstrated
when labor leaders of Butte, M'.nt.. were enter
tained at the White Hou.-e. it Is explained that
hie desired, before he retired from office, to make
this disposition of the authorities e\ en more evi
dent.
The reason members of the Supreme <"ourt of
the rnited States and executive officials were
invited to be present was merely to enable them
to learn from v the leaders direct what they re
gard as their needs.
Men who are in a position to know the atti
tude of the President on the subjeit say that he
has been deeply impressed with the idea of labor
unions employing attorneys of nigh character
ajxi sound legal training t<> advise them on mat
ters of polity and to represent them ir. th^ir
contests. In order to encourage this pract
indicating his sympathy with it, he invited sev
eral attorneys who have been connected with
labor unions to take part in the labor conference
held last night.
The occasion is said to have afforded a free
exchange of ideas and to have been of "illumi
nating value" to the President. While he may
not adopt a labor programme at the dose of his
administration, lest he might thereby embarrass
his successor, it is believed that, he will set forth
his views on the needs of labor, either in his an
nual message to Congress when it convenes the
first Monday in December, or in a special labor
I message submitted later. The ideas gathered at
; the dinner will be of value In his discussion of
what the President considers as the primary
steps In the improvement of labor conditions.
The various conferences of the last two days
are said to have brought out more plainly
than ever before the desire of the labor inter
ests to eliminate lawsuits in collecting damages
under employers' liability laws. It has been
found, the labor leaders say, that the lawsuits
result in benefit to lawyers only, and that they
are not a necessary ste p in the Insurance of Jus
tice to either side. As to a remedy for the al
leged abuses of the injunction, there still seems
to be a., wide difference of views on the part of
labor leaders. A :«-V: «-V
Mr. Gavegan favors having the time for hear
ings on the merits Aft Injunction suit.* fixed by
law. instead at by courts; the right of de
fendants to present evidence orally instead of
by affidavits alone, and records of proceedings
for purposes of review by higher courts. He
would put labor on an equality with other citi
zens In respect to court hearings.
JOHN G, MILBURN.
SHOT AT MRS. DEXT.
Sister-in-Law of Mrs. V. S. Grant
Hit When Hunters Fire on Auto.
[By Telesra?* tc Th* Tribune. 1
Denver, Nov. IS.— Because one of their dogs
had been killed by a speeding automobile, two
hunters fired their shotguns at the machine of
Major L. E. Campbe.ll. one charge striking Mrs.
F. T. Dent, widow of General F. T. Dent, whose
sister was the wife of the late General U. S.
Grant, on the back of the head." Mrs. Dent saw
them ra4se their guns and turned her head:
otherwise she would have been shot in the face.
Her hat and harr saved her head, the shot fall
ing harmlessly down her neck. Neither the lit
tle girl at her side nor Major Campbell was hit.
Campbell tried to avoid hitting the djpg. but
could not. After he had killed it he turned and
started toward the hunters, intending to apolo
gise and pay for the animal, but on his ap
proach they raised their guns and fired, and
then, whipping their horses, drove away at top
speed. "
A REAL SEA MOXSTER!
Weird Creature Escapes. Carrying
Away Ton Weight.
| By Telegraph to The Tribune. 1
Providence. Nov. 18. — Charles Smith, watch
man for the Narragansett Bay Oyster Company
at Prudence Island, and Thomas Harty. a fisher
man, tell a strange tale of a weird sea monster
that is borne out by a score of reputable citi
zens, who say they have seen the beast.
The monster first made its appearance here
about a week ago. Yesterday Smith and Harty
spied it close to shore in shallow water. The
creature is as big as.an ox. -Is built like a
kangaroo without legs, has a fluked tail, a long
neck and a small head, with two horns. Smith
emptied his rifle at the beast, but the bullets
rattled off the hide. Then he and Harty chased
it and managed to fasten it with a noose about
the neck to a piling weighing a -ton. The
monster dragged the piling Into the water as
though it were a feather and swam off.
WANT SCALP OF INDIANS.
President Roosevelt Appealed To by
Denver Football Team.
Denver. Nov. IS.— President Roosevelt has
been asked to use his influence in having a con
tract lived* up to for a football game between
representatives of Denver University and the
Carlisle Indian School.
The game was scheduled for December 5 in
this city, but .word was received yesterday from
Carlisle that leave of absence could not be se
cured for so long a journey. Thereupon a re
quest was sent to the President through former
United States Senator Patterson to grant the
i mv c necessary. A portion of Senator Patter
son's, message reads: 'The Denver boys want
a square deal and turn to you to get it for
them."
FLIGHT FOR LAHM CUP.
Millionaire Aeronaut Makes Ascension from
St. Louis.
St. boafs, Nov. IS -The balloon Yankee,
manned by Albert Bond Lambert, millionaire
member of the City Council of St. Louis, and
ii X Honeywell, started on a iong distance
flight from here to-day in an attempt \,o -win the
l.ahm Cup. A HgM breeze carried the balloun
eastward over Illinois
NEW GUNNERY RECORDS.
Battleship Nebraska Makes World Marks
at Manila,
Manila. Nov. I".— lt Is unofficially stated that
the battleship Nebraska, aorta* the target practice
now it, progress, with 12-lnch guns broke all records
established by the navies of the world for marks
manship with heavy guns. ;"<.'-•
While the figure? are not obtainable. It Is believed
that the Nebraska's crew will gain ail records for
both speed and accuracy.
PRICE THREE CEXTS.
ROCKEFELLER TELLS
STORY OF STANDARD
FOUXDATIOX OF SUCCESS
was $sjm loan.
On Stand in Government Suit Says
Company Did Xot Organize the
' South Improvement Company.
John D. Rockefeller, president of the Stand*
ard Oil Company, spent yesterday afternoon on
the witness stand before Franklin Ferri?. th*
referee in the government suit to dissolve th»
corporation for alleged violation of the Sherman
anti-trust law. Before adjournment for the day
Mr Rockefeller had denied with great emphasis
that either he his brother William or Henry
M. Flagler had had anything to do with" the or
ganization of the South Improvement Company,
that he or they had at any time held "a con
trolling Interest in ii or that they in any way
believed In it He said with great earnestness,
leaning far forward, facing his counsel, John O.
Mllburn: :W.r:V y.-;;
"We did not think that It was a desirable
scheme: it n»»vec went into operation. There
never was any business done under the Soutit
Improvement Company's name. I b*»lieve there
never was any money paid in anti as stoclc
issued. That was a result we bad expected.
We did not think it could b» worked out. but wo
did not wish to break with the powerful Mrt
Scott."
The South Improvement Company was to
favor oil .interests, in freight rates, and whea
Mr. Milburn asked whether Mr Rockefeller or
his associates had negotiated the contract with
the railways or had anything to do with it th«
witness said firmly:
"Absolutely not. The men back, of it were all
refiners, but I shared the views of Mr. Flagler
«hat It was a plan we should not approve -'.
Thomas A. Scott, then a potent factor In th«
Pennsylvania road, was not to be. disregarded,
however. We did not wish to break with Mr.
Scott. We lacked confidence in this division of
railway rates of the country."
-HO COERCIVE MEASURES USEp."
When asked about the purchase of competinf
refineries, whether any coercive measures were
used, he said, with an impatient gesture with
the right hand: . -'.*-?
"None whatever; none whatever. Th« nego
tiations were fair, very' fair, the kind I have al
ways made."
Mr. Rockefeller began Is tell the story of the
corporation of which he Is the head at 2 o'clock;
in the Custom House. The little room on the
fifth floor was crowded. Men stood back of th»
reporters' tables six deep, staring intently at
the Standard Oil president. Three policeaneo
were stationed so that they could control the
spectators. Mr. Rockefeller sat the south end
of a small table, back of which Mr Ferris was
seated. An open window near by gave ventila
i tion, and It was nec^wary -At another tab**
at angles with th- first was the 'counsel. Sir.
Milburn asked the questions for the defence.
prompted by Moritz Rosenthal. who has been ac
tive in the case almost since its beginning, near
ly two years ago in St. Louis."
The prosecution has rested Us case, but Frank
B. Kellogg, federal attorney, is all ready to tak«
the witness as soon as the defence is through
with him. The defence has until December 1 to
get all its evidence in.
Every conceivable part of the great business
has been explained again and again by witnesses
for the government and for the defence in re
buttai. Mr. Rockefeller was called so that hia
story may be put on the records before the ex
piration of the time. He will 'be followed by
William Rockefeller. John D. Archbold and
James A. Moffett. but there are other minor
witnesses still la be called, whose evidence,
however, can be dispensed with with lew danger
than that of the managing officers.
GOES TO NO. 26 BROADWAY FIRST.
Mr. Rockefeller began his day with a call on,
his physician. Dr. Henri Moeller. of No. 241 West
57th street. He got there at M o'clock, remained
about fifteen minutes, and then -was hurried;
down to No. 25 Broadway in his automobile.
There the finishing touches were given to a rec
ord of the company; a record which he fre
quently consulted at the hearing. He had
luncheon In his offlce. and with Mr. Miiburn and;
Mr. Rosenthal started for the Custom House at
1:45 o'clock, storing long enough at the en
trance to permit a score of photographer* to
snap their cameras at him. It was 1:52 o'clock
when he entered the little room on the fifth fioor.
A less ostentatious setting for a great hearing
could not well be imagined. Mr. Rockefeller
was not at a!', nervous as he enter. the room.
Mr. Milburn and Mr. Rosenthal bringing up th«
rear. The Standard Oil president waited for
directions where to go. and walked around tb*>
counsels* table and was rubbing elbow* -with.
Mr. Kellogg before he knew of the proximity ©£
the federal counsel.. They were introduced and,
a smiling conversation was held. The .stenog
rapher was moved to the side of Mr. Fenriss. an*
Mr. Rockefeller sat at the end of the. table.
Before the taking of testimony was begun Mr.
Ferris called attention to the restricted space.
and cautioned all present not to move chairs or
make any other noise. All the windows w»<-«
opened, and the ventilators leading Into the hall
were tilted. But so rank did the atrnosphen*
become that a recess of five minutes was neces
sary at* " o'clock, lad the room -was partly
cleared.
• It was in the recess that Mr Rockefeller told
a group of reporters of his start In business. In
ISSS he went to a banker, explained his knowl
edge of fining and his business experience and
methods. He wanted $3,000. He had. no col
lateral. The banker let him have the money.
To that loan Mr. Rockefeller lays all his great
success In life.
To-day the hearing will be held in a lar*a
room in the eastern part of the building, on t!i*
-ame floor. It was just 2 o'clock v.hen Mr.
Rockefeller was sworn In by Mr. Ferris, and tli»
story of the gr-at corporation was begun.
ENTERED OIL. BUSINESS ABOUT 18*10.
His legal residence Mr. Rockefeller gave as No.
4 West ."-4th street/ His first connection with
the oil business was In ISGO or IS«2-not earlier
than lflM ass later than I><»>"J. he was careful
to say. There was laughter when. In answer to
Mr. MUburn's question: "You were quit* %
young man at that time— Mr. Rockefeller, with
a naive expression, said:
"Somewhat younger than I am to-day."
The witness answered all questions readily.
frequently adding to the necessary answer, and
never at a loss for an answer. He told of 'ha
first business, when he was associated with
Morris, James and Richard Clark and Samuel
Andrews in a copartnership under the name oZ
Andrews. Clark & Co. This was at Cleveland,
where they eom-'ructed a refinery. He »«114
not tell Just when th.- construction was bejua
nor when It was finished, nor the capacity at