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Id SELLING PROBLEMS
Hugh Chalmers Tells Makers
That Changes Are Needed.
OPPOSES LONG DISCOUNTS
Considers Announcement of
New Models in Summer a
Detriment to Industry.
One of the most important papers read
re the members of the Natlonal Abso
-jatlon of Automoblle Manufacturers in
ist week was that by Hugh
CbalBiera, head of tbe Chalmers Motor
-Compaai ^Ir Chalmers, one of the
g men of the Industry, took aa his
?gbjeot "Some Selllng Problemf." ln
n he discussed the relation of the
manufactiirer and dealer, productlon, sec
o: i _and cars and the effect of weather
>Ir. Chalmera took a strong stand
_tk>_? prlclng of cars and long
ontendlnfl thnt "they throw
?rity and barter
.jnk: i BMibodfl over our whote
Tl-dteifl ln used cnrs, he con
Baaary, bnl unless wisely
carried oa means usually the maklng of
two aelea ln order to make one proflt.
X.. and ot automoblle dealers," he
aded themselve* out of
Mr ChahneTfl auaaested the
lAtmenl of n i .immlaatwa which
lT-i-rtit work out some plan of eO-p-ta
i -ar nroMem ftetng _eed
T.-.kiiig ap Um a-bJed of
__l .Tiitig of motor cars. Mr. Chal
"Tba greateet obstacle to the aale of
? iutomoHles ls a natural obstacle, and
0ne wblch n*j can never entlrely over
come- Thla greateet obstacle la bad
weather. The weather makee ours a Bea
sonal buslneaa, and any bustneaa that
U ajaaenal has selllng problema which
an all-t.ie-year-around buslnesB doeen't
have V.v cannot change the weather,
thst I" plain P it we can take mea9urea
which arlll mlnimlze the e-ffect of fell
Bnd wlnter weather on our buslness.
The firel thlng 1 believe we should do
Ja t.. cbaaflfl our own eeasons.
? 1 i a "ne of those who believe ln
reaity Biodcla This question will be de
bat'-C b< rfl and 1 am not golng lnto lt
i,,.-.v any further than to say that ln my
taodelfl are still dealrable.
But I am comlnfl te believe that we hav?
plCj.. wroufl tlme of the year
aity models. If you
-fUl onr buslness for a num
r.r ,.: nd tuke your aalea from
January t.. Jantuury, you will flnd that
trie , afl Is a camel-backed affair
t\.th o-K ? i.d in January and the other
? ln Doeeaiher. with a rlse from January
to an apf x ll May or June; then a vlo
lent rtanp for thirty or slxty days, with
?H E! | through the late aummer
and fali Ifl aa apex ln October; aud after
that ''lln? away to tne mean
], v., .. _> . mber and January. 1 bfl
tblfl will aiwaya oe true as
long as we annotrnoe new mxhls ln
I the aurr.i
.on plar.s are wrong I_ok
'? at yo.?r eurve Of proouctlon. You will
. . baa two humps?one in the
; sprlng and ona In the late summer and
It is at Its lowest point ln
r. wl.cn it should be hlghest,
beca-j-e aa and our Aflaaofl then and etart
on ae? which always come slow
ly at Brst In other __?__. we get our
Baaa-antn prudae-kn. in the pnareel seii
lfig season and our minlmum productlon
lld be Iilgheat. When the
treaf I favorable to big sales we
are e ? .th tho new models.
"T: ? r,ns are not rlght. It ls
to m tfl and certalnly to the In?
terest.'- of our dealers to make our blg
geat deliveiiea ln th<i heavlest eelllng sea
K.n. I thlnk lt ls time for ua to conslder
ten' tni-oualy whether wa ought not to
?aflfliim onr model Just before January
_, rather than ln July. One company
alone wonid hardly dare change the cua
tom, or eren two or tliree oompanleB, for
Thla Ij a thinjr which. lf lt la to the In?
terest of all, should be done by aJl to
gether. all of us agreeing, say a year ln
Bdvance, that we are, after a certaln dete,
golng to niake our annauncements not
earller, ?.->.>, than the Decerober 1, rather
than ln July. I thlnk that lf the change
" ls made nn agreement Bhould be reached
that tb< aew models be announced not
earller than December i. or poBStbly De
ceir.ber :; A.inouncementB prlor to that
time would, I believe, tend to stop busl
aess to.> e_riy ln the fail. Our buslneaa
ycAr la. you mlght say. reaily a ten
aionths y.ar. when you get down to lt
We, all of Bfl, alm to have a gap between
Beasona, and lt seema to me lt would be
rn'-'-r. b. tter to have thla gap come ln
mldwlnter, rather than ln rnldsummer."
INNOVATIONS FOR ATJTOS.
Several Innovatlone for the automoblllat
have raoently been brought out by the
Bterllnj,' Equtpaaant Company, a heat re
ta__r for radlatora belng eBpeclally Um.
ly, as fio'-ty weather la about due. The
new prot'-ctor ls adaptable for any type
of machine. The concern la also placlng
a .oor eartala carrler for touring cara,
n_ktng lt posslble to open a door and
?ide storni curtain at the eame tlme. It
h raln ar.d wlnd proof.
ENGLEWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
?? a har.-ful of Enrlewood (tolfera took
t_rt la rt;atrh play aaratnat bosia yaatarday.
Over. be'ng about flftean entriea. R. E _ar
?Brton -,, ] p, j j; Teatar tled for tha !___
>nt poaltlon, evh of them flnlahlnaT all aquare
Jjlth tbe 'o onel " Mr. Larendon and Dr.
I-*.*- ?ui atttia tha deadlock wlthln tba naxt
Lambert Ouenther Wins Prize
of Auto Committee.
Wlth the lntentlon of securlng the most
attractlve poBler deslgn for the forthcom
lng double automoblle show ln the Grand
Central Palace and Madlson Square Gar
den. the show commlttee of the Auto?
moblle Board of Trade some months ago
started an open competitlon. lt was de
slred to stlmuiate the beat artlsts. and
nlnety-two designs were submitted to the
commlttee by as many artlsts.
From this number the one executed by
Lambert Guenther, of New Yclrk, was se
lected, and Mr. Guenther recelves the $200
prize. The Judges who assisted the com?
mlttee ln making the decision wt-re Will?
iam H. Johns, general nianager of the
George Batten Company; Ruaaeli A.
Fleld, of Bmmrleld & Fleld, and W. W.
Knowles, tho an hltect who designed the
decoratlve scheme for the Garden auto?
moblle show last wlnter.
The poBter will be printed in flve colora.
lt) the foreground of the drawlng ls seert
a three-quarter view of a man at the
wheel of a ear, wlth a young woman
seated bc-slde hlm, whlle the baokground
is made up of an avenue scene. ln which
automoblles, a slghtseolng 'hus and a
motor truck are to Lu noted. It is a moBt
artistic pl.-.-e ol I?lpressionIstN drawlng,
As far as space will pt-rmlt and pro?
vlded th* artlsts deslre It, those d.-sjgris
which were not awardeO the prize will
be exhlbltod durlng the ahow. As already
announced, the displays of pleasure 0818
will take pace ln the Palace and Gard.-n
Bimultancously durlng the week of Janu?
ary 11 to 18. and COB?BMrdal vchlclea will
be Bhowu the week of January JU 09 an
TRUCKS HUM IN THE HILLS
Garford Vehicles Help Oomple
tion of Catskill Aqueduct.
The demand of New York Clty's mlll
lons for a gene-rous supply of pure drtnk
Ing water has upset the land of Rlp Van
Wlnklo. who was lmmortallzed by Wash?
ington Irvlng Ponderous steam Bhovels,
snortlng work tralns, rattllng concreta
mlxlng plants, motor trucks haullng ce
mont and gravel and an army of work
men are turnlng the place where Rlp was
attacked by what would be known to-day
as the sleeplng slcknees Into one of the
greatest cnglneertng achlevements Amer?
ica has ever known?an undertaking
which will cost more to complete than
the Panama Canal.
The source of supply by which more
than 6fC,000,000 gallone of pure water will
be dcllvered to New York City every
twenty-four hours, through the already
famous Catskill aqueduct. la very close
to the spot where Rlp "slept for twenty
years or more." Hlgh up ln the Catskill
Mountalna clear. awlft running brooks
are to be emptled Into a vast reBervolr,
from which. through elghty-flve mlles of
steel and concrete plpes, the watera wT.l
be ruehed to America'? largest city. The
ahlest engineers and the most modern
machlnery obtalnabie are accompllflhlng
this eng.neerlng marvel.
The motor truck, which ln the dayB of
Rlp Van Wlnkle would have been ban
lahed aa a devillsh inventlon. 1b playing
a big part ln this undertaking. i-'un
tructors who for years bemoaned the
ahortcomlngB of horae and wagon tranB
portatlon ln thelr business have turned to
the truck as to an agency to asalst ln
thelr lncessant battle agalnat time, the
bugaboo of all constructlon concerns. A
half doien Garford trucke, bullt by the
Garford Company, of Elyrla, Ohio, are
haullng materlals and suppltea for tbe
big pipe which will Btretch enakellko
across the country.
"The aqueduct ls provlng an excellent
demonstrator of the vaiue of the motor
truck to contractora" says J- D. Portar,
salea manager of the Garford Company.
"The men who are uaing our power wag
ons tc-11 us that without them and with
only the antlquatod horae and wagon
system of transportatlon to depend on
for materlals and Buppllea tht-y would
flnd lt ImpoBBlble to carry out their work
in anything near the allotuwi Umi. Blx
of our flvo-ton trucks are already at
work on the undertaking. and othera are
to be shlpped aa eoon as they aro com
TOWN CAR^AREJN DEMAND
0. T. Silver Adds Three Oloeed
Types to Overland Line.
At this se?Bon of the year the town
ear oomM into Its own. ?nd dealcre are
already making provlslon for the demand.
The populaiity of the town ear, partlcu?
larly ln New York. ls one of the lnter
estlng anglea of the development of the
motor ear buslnesB. It la the natural
outgrowth of the deelre for esae. comfort
and luxury, to meet which the body and
equlpment makere have kept pace wlth
Paying heed to the dlntlnetlve town enr
trade C. T. Bilver. the Overland difl
trlbuter, ha* had speclally bullt a num?
ber of Hmouslne bodlea to flt the chasslfl
of the popular "80" Overland. Three
Btylaa Of bodles give a wlde cholee. One
ls the regulatton Hmouslne type; an?
other ls slmllar. but wlth the addttlon of
The third la novel and of the best type
of closed cara to be eeen this season. It
18 called the "social UmouBlne." It is of
the B8888M drlve order, and is speHally
designed for the owner and hls famlly.
The seats are commodlous and all the np
polntment. are ln good taate. Thean
models, which Mr. Silver la placlng on
the market for the wlnter, will carry the
full equlpment of the regular llne.
PIANO, VIOLIN, SINOiNO and mu
?ical teachlnB In all ita branehe* will
be found on the Muelcal page of this
? i i r ? ADIMCTORYOr
JAMES C. NICHOLS
Dj^ect Factory Diatributor
1C73 Itroadmt) . 8100 < oliimboe.
"? our Ni w Modal O, douhla Jet, bp*
-flaUy adepted for e cyllndar work and lonf
.ftrdVa motdra. ______
? Vodel L exehanjed for your old eer
turetor at one-half r*KUiar prlca,
, Impiove _. efflclency of your oarburator
?nd l.iaure eaay atartlnit In cold waaCher by
tne ua?- of our hot alr stova.
AHtomoblli Wtrk tf Evtry DttortpHon.
? a Trtaaaalaa, Topa, Blip Corera
?t?H?ir_, ato. VVInd fchtelds. Bumpera
Wocrimork, MetaJ and Blackamlth Work.
-Tf.ltllM. x?ip AND KQl'IPMENT CO.
(lMtl H>?t a.tb Street, New Yerk.
? -'?.Dfl end 2.t?T Coluirbua
___" ^pHlred and Mounted.
m ' ?- <??-????aaa?-_?.
_?l__?l|lty anJ t_rv|cs have made thaaa
BuiOD.0-! ?_ famooa Tho aana qualltlas ara
r-?nr> in ?ur f ullt cara ?hleh are fully
fl_a-..t._l -?,. tuka all ...alcaa In trada.
t> _ ar ?>?_/l., 4 Waat fltnd M.
^DISTRIBUTTNO A IMPORTINO CO.
Paul I_acro1x. Prealdent
IOLF.U a. niHTniBtnorts.
1770 BROADWAy (57Eh at.)
All cara aold llcenaed unrl.i IT. 6. Patenta.
A BUICK 1M1 lTOL_UN_r**-0; MJNfl ANI>
looka llka naw car; haa everjr po?albla equip?
ment. ma|-, top. Oc; tour new ahoea on
car now- two new extra -ho<a aad tuhea ana
all other axtraa; ear muat be aeen to he ap
precl-ted; act qulckly; no de^larB. laquIrafor
\lr. Leonarda car. MUNICH- O-dUfflt ?-..!
and Alexander ave Tel'nho"* 8.V Malroae
AV-OMOBILE AM? AtTO T-i-CK IN
n-DT niiir V M. C. A.?Indlvldual road
"*". lEall (Bhop ClaBsea _?* 2?B?_
waltlng. -end for booklet. 300 Weat 67th
at "Phona 7n*J0 Col_,_,
ADvsRTieanristtra and w-*?1"1,0?
for Tho Trlhune recelved at their ^Ptown
Offlce, No. 1364 Broadway. between setb and
87th ata.. untll 0 o'clock P. ??
TYPES OF POPULAR RUNABOUTS NOW SHOWN ALONG AUTO
National Roadstcr, in upper picture, and wire wheeled Henderson runabout in lower.
FOR A. A. A.
R. P. Hooper Will Retire at
Next Annual Meeting.
CONVENTION IN CHICAGO
Many Other Important Matters
To Be Decided?Banquet
Invnlved In the holding of tho eleventh
annual moetlnR of the American Auto?
moblle Aaao :<tlon, f.i take place ln Chl
Caajo, Dooombor - and ?>. ct the Audl
torlam Hotei arlll be tba nonalilflfallon af
roadfl g .? '!?.! I nf both natlonal and state
lmpurt Dnrtnf the last fflflf i..; W*Xt
ln.; rovement has recelved a country--.! !a
bnpetttfl, doa iri a degree t<. th?- eaargy "f
the aaaoctatloa'a forty.ov Btate bodlea
and 4r/? loeal cluhe BevohU stat'S hava
OOnfl|fJflffl_ bond Issuea Iflv-lftflfl mllHons
of rtollara. aad thflflfl ll rrnt a tlngle cum
nionwealth ln the entlti' I'nlon which haa
not, in OM fl_| at anolhar. made prog
r. ;?. ln roit'i dot'lloptnent.
The aaattar af Cedaral parttolBntlaa: in
hlflbwain hnpravainanl haa t.een a
rnark. .1 feattire of tho admlnlstratlon af
Robert P. Hoopar, arbo paaltlvoty doattaai
ffl fllflflttan to the pr-sldency on the
ground that lt In now |bfl duty of another
automoblllst to floma t< rwurd and head
the aaao'lation, which rapcaaanta In or
ganlzed f.irm nearly a mllllon roa4 BOflffl
Mr Hoopar, ii;<e bla pvadaoaaaov in tha
bfaflldenejr, Mr. Hr>e?r.-, of Maaaaobaaettat
will flon_n_fl to be the baafl of a Btate
ai_nnlaatka_, ti.?t af P-anajrtvaabv which
haa kept him in offlce fltnofl ita lnreptlon
some flOfaa years ago
It ls worthy of note, that the, Amerkan
Autoniobile Assoclation was organized In
Chlcago March 4, U-2. and several of tha
foundera will be BflBOeal at the banq'iet
on the evening of the flrst day, all the
errnngements ln llcatlng that lt w 111 be
the most pretintious affali of Its klnd ln
tho hlstory of the nntlonal body.
An effort will bfl made to have all the
living bi praa1rtan,lfl praaanl on this oc
caslon, the 11st ln'Mudlng. bflflf-flfl Mr.
Hooper and Mr. Bpeare, Dr. Julian A.
Chaae, of Rhode Ialand, UM; Klilot C.
l<-r. of affl?anhnaallfl. ?_. and wiiiiam
II. Hotchklss, Of New York. 19<)7-'0S. An
OXOf-ptlonally large attandflaflfl from the
Weat ia aflflniad, and It Is expected that
every state flflflOfltflttOfl will have a dele?
gation at the annual assembly and its
RAMBLER ON BROADWAY
Big Business Forces H. E. Field
to Take Larger Quarters.
Forccd hy the growth of flMtoflflfl dur?
ing the lust year to flflflfllfl larger quar
ttrfl, the Thornas R. Jeffery t'ornpany of
New York. BflalflfH dlatrlbutera of the
Rambler car, will move from West 6_'d
street to a new home In the centre of the
automoblle dlatrkt to-morrow. The new
ealesrooma and oftlccH will be at No. 17M
Rroadway. Alteratlons and decoratlons
during the last few weeks make thla one
of the haiidaomest ealesrooma on Auto?
The Rambler has mnde great strldes
ln tbfl Bflflt d'iring the last year, Its buc
Oflflfl practlcally dating from the appolnt
ment of H r_ Field aa loeal manager.
During his term, a Uttle more than twelve
monthB, tho aales of Rambler cara have
ahown an Increase of over too per cent, a
remurkable ahowlng In the face of atrong
The rcceptlon among agenta, dealers
and the public of the t____blfl_- new
gasolene-electrlc unlt power plant thla
year made larg.r quartera necr-aeary.
Mr. Fleld la oonlldent that the car will
aoon take Its rlghtful place among the
leadera of the medlum prlccd car dlvlfllon
in the Kast, as it has already done In tha
The new Rambler bulldlng ls lust north
of the I-oztor ahowroom. ln additlon to a
commodlouB showroom with a Broadway
frontage of flfty feet, the flrm haa also
leased. the entlre second floor of the
bulldlng for a servlce plant and repair
shop to t.ikc care of Ita customers. glving
a total floor space of 18.000 square feet,
one of the largest ertabllshments on Au?
DYKER MEADOW GOLF CLUB.
Flntahlna 8 down to boijte. George I.. Kllnt
Ied tha fleld at tho Dyker Meadow Qolf Club
yesterday. There were twenty-ae\en entrlea.
The followlnr returned carja:
Grotta. H'<-ap. Result.
Geora* L- r?nt. ?; J ? <}own
? O. Splndler.. ? " ? down
Ueork'C D Harigcjod. s? ? 6 down
2 j V_eha-1 . . ? 0 ? <Sown
ir'. w. Uluaaom._....10l tl 7 down
PIANO, VIOLIN. SING1NO and mu
sical teaching in all its branchae will
ba found on tho Muaical page of thia
Will Not Attempt to
Meet American Prices
British Auto Makers Intend
to Limit Number of Mod
ela in Effort to Cut
1 mm reports which have reached this
country concernlnf tha Olympla Show In
Ixmdon, which cloBed last nlght. after
runnlng for elght daya. lt ls evldent that
durn.g 1914. at least, the Brltlsh manu
facturera of BMterOBTfl will make no at?
tempt to compete wlth th? low prlred
American ear. It ls lntended, ap; I
to mcet the 88-08-88 by llmitlng the num?
ber of BMdOM, ir, erdar that the product
may be brought to tho lowest posMble
prlce. Tlis effort will then l>e .
that tho Brltlbb-bullt machlneB are WOTtfa
the dlrferem-e ln the prl :e. The BltuaMon
18 thuB outllned by the wrlter ln "The
?Apparently by common conBant, the
?oropooa motorcar manufacturar has de
, Itood M enter Into competltL'ii wlth the
Ameilc-.n prodi;< er of tle type of ear dls
Baaaai .c* the re.ent meetlng of the InaU
tatlon of Autotnoblle Ki.gln.er-.. TB8SB
wl.o telieved that one of thelr modele
WtM llkely to feel the pressire of thia
Amerl, ai. compctltlon on the score of
prloa bave slniply drc.ppe.l that model,
and wl.: m; leav..r. by conc.-ntrutlun ?.n
f.-wer type*. to prcxljre. cars which will
!*? Immune from comparl.-...n with any
morely 8-888 BOT, ai.d 8M8 BgalBBt Ameri?
can competlilon ln better grades."
lt BBUS4 n.>t be aaBunied for a moment
that American cars as a whole lack ad
JtiBtabllity and flnlsh, or that there are
not as hlgh grade ear* bullt west of the
Atlantlc as east. We have seen Bttle,
?.. far, of the hlghest grade American
ear, elmply because It ls so experiBlve as
tn stand little chance of sacurlng a foot
Ing on our market. In the expc.nslve
American ear ther>> ls no lack of that
attention to detall and flnish upon which
tba BniOPaaa manufacturer prldee hlm
self; but, alnce thnsie pulnts cost more
to aeCOre tn America than here, owlng
to the hlgher Btandard of wages and ln
diistrlal llfe there. they cannot well be
Offared hereby the American manufact
Urar to ...nimerclal edvantage.
'Then fore. lt ls a wlae pollcy on the
part f the BrttlBh mutor ear maker to
! emphnelze the advanta^o Be Bi possessed
of. and to avold competlng where hls con
jdltlons i :.i e ilra at an almost hopeleas
Ivantage The loglcal outeome of
that poUey must be that the ch.-ap Amer?
ican ear will be left In full pxasession
of the patronage of those to whom lt ap
peals. The motlve, or rather the hope,
underlylng that attitude ls framed ln the
bellef tbat when the frailtles of the type
are h.-tt-r appre-liited Its users will reveit
to th- more substantlal produots of Euro?
"Personally, we lean to the opinion that
force of competltlon among th* makers
and ic-scmblera of cheap American cars
will lmprove them Into real rlvals of the
currespondlng types of Curopean ear. un
less ln the lnterval the rlse and dfvelop
ni'Vit ai the .-ycl<- enr slnill cut Into thelr
trade ai the lower end, and som<- form of
eOBtOBM duty ralses thelr cost more Into
U-.t-l wlth Brltlatl nv.d.-ls at the other."
ROUGH USAGE FOR TIRES
Reporta on Lake Michigan Run
Prove Qoodyear Claims.
At the finlsh of the .recent rellablllty
nin around I_ke Michigan the tlrea o'
the fifte.-n flnlBhlng ears were taken off
and BQBjeOted to a searehnlg examlnatlon
by the experts ln charge of the test.
Flght of th- flfteen cars were e,|ulppe<l
wltb BtOCk tlreB sold from a braneh ofllce
of th<- Coodyear company. and thelr per
fonnances are of Interest. IRre are
brlef extrads from the reports:
"No perceptlble slgn of w-.-nr waa no
ticeable on my Goodyear non-skld tlres,"
BOld A. M. Robblns, of tho Cntairr com?
pany, Chicago. who drove au Abbott-r?e
trolt. *'Our ear welghed over tive tfcOtt
snnd poundB. It was overloaded with
extras, eiich as i-pare tlres. axes, bl.uk
and tackle, etc. Yet for the entlro 1.1"
mll.s our fo-ir tlres stood up without our
havlng to touch a pump to them. AI
it-muKh thev had been driven el^ht hun?
dred mlles before the tour. yet to-day
U ? v look llke new."
"The cars wlibh flnlshed In this 00B
test nibjected thelr tlres to tbe most
Kimelllng tests ever put to ruhber and
fabrlc," was the report of R. 0 Greene,
who examined tho tlres "They were
driven over corduroy roada, through
tralls obstnicted by rut?. roots and
atumpa. There were Bteep htlls to cllmb.
And the speed over the rough spotB was
hlgh, to keep up to schedute. In the du
ratlon of thla test the tlree recelved
l.irder treatment than would have been
gtvaa them ln two years of ordlnary ser?
vlce. And these cars wore overloaded all
_M tlma. Yet the fabrlc showed no slgns
of wear from frlctlnn hent"
PHONE 8578 COU
On or about December 1st
we move to our new home
at 1692 Broadway.
Before moving we MUST
close out a few 1912 "left
overs" and several used
touring cars and roadsters.
Guaranteed in excellent
mechanical condition and
look like new.
VERY LOW PRICES
AUTOMOBILES FOR RENT.
f'AcTK^ ItD Itmoumnes, new cara. for monthly
aervlce; speelal to theatre O' opera, wlth
prlvllrse '>f st'.ppl.iB 0B8 hour for B*p8H r,
$10, larg^st rt-iit -rs of I'a. kard cars la NtW
York. I'HON-, FLAZA -100.
HONORS GO TO DARTMOUTH
Wins hy Big Margin Intercol
legiate 'Cross-Country Run.
Roston, Nov. 16? Dartmouth won the
New F]ngland Intercolleglate "crosB-coun
try race ov-.r the Hrookllne course from
n.'Vfn other Baatera cott*g*a to-day.
Brown araa aaOOBd ar.d the Massachusetts
Inetltute of Ttchnology third.
N. S. T.iber. Bf Itrciwn. the flrst m;in to
flnisli, trovalled |he 4 6 mlle course ln
z> minutes ;:i i aaeonda, RannIns third
for tbe flrst thi?e rniles, T.iber went Into
sec-ond BlOOB Ot th.' hnmestretch When
120 yards from the flnish, he, sprlnted Into
the lead. nnd went 088008 the flnisli llne
H rarda attead of HL t. r_ii, of Dart
inniith. Tln- aecond, third, fourth and
tlfth places W*OI to Hartiriouth.
The scores were as follows: Dartmouth,
"o; BrOWa, I8j Mn<sa'-husetts Instltute of
T< (-htiol.igy, ?; Amherst, 12"; Wllliams.
l.'ll; Hcly <'ro?s, 16,'., and ffop .-ster I'oly
taennte Instltute, 166. Tufts took elghtn
bIooo, only three men crosslng the flnlsh.
ISTOVER REPEATS VICTORY
Wins in Interscholastic 'Cross
Country Eun at Oolumbia.
Loiiis 8tover. of Schenectady Hlgh
School. capttrred flrst place from a fleld
Of 164 prep. school boys in f'olumbia Unl
verslty's annual lnteracholastle 'cross
oountry run, held on Rlverside Drive yts
terday afternoon. He did the three and a
half miles In 18 minutes 391-5 seconds.
Jtist one mlnute two and one-Ilfth flec
onds better than he won it in last year.
Schenectady alao took flrst place ln the
team acores and won tha Guatavua T.
Klrhy trophy for the year by srorlng 51
points. Newark Central Hlgh School took
second, with 68. and Morria Hlgh 8chool,
la?=t year's winner. third, with 75. Schen?
ectady took flrst, Becond. eleventh, eigh
teenth and nlncteenth places.
P. Dochetadter, anoth.r Schenectady
lad, ran second to 8tover, flnlshlng Just
behind him. ln 18:49. 8. Ten Eyck, of
Jamalea Hlgh School, was third. These
three men stuck together from the Btart,
Dochatadter taklng the lead, and holding
it tlll about tha half way mark.
Oustavus T. Kirby, president of the A.
A. V., and donor of the trophy. was
referee. After the race the boys were
entertalned by the f'olumbla track man
agement ln Karl Hall.
The summarles follow:
rtnlwh. I'or.Uatant. Tlme.
1 l.. Stover, Hchenect_vly. 1? :IU _
_? }? 1?M!.ata<lter. S_ien.ctady. 18.40
8--S. Ten Kyek. Jamalea. 19:00
4? Y. Krough. _orrla H. B. 19:05
ft? J. Meyer, Central II. S., N.wark.. lt? LSflj
6?K. Rusa, Central II S. Newark.. 1?:19
7?N. W.g. Da Wltt Cllnton )l. B_ 19:26
8-M DouBlisa. De Witt Cllnton H. 8. 19:;.74.
? ii. Joaea, Central ii. B., Nawark., lii 37
10?S. I la<rouck. MoitIs II. 8. 19 40*.
II ? W. Knlay, t-chenectady H X. 10:44
11' EL Itl har'lH, Vonk^rs 11. B.16 .?
|| W Drabbla, Rarrlng-r H. 1. 19:47%
H ? K Urannay, t'ommri.iai H. B. Ifl-M
10 " Brl kley, Barrlagar H. s.lO-Sfl ?
Ifl H Roaofaky, H .-). _ Cemraarca... 16:84
17 VV. Pewatt, Morris H. fl. Bfltflfl
1| ?'. liuiliam, M.henect-<ly H. S. I0:1_1*J
lf> <? Knlglit, s.henectndy H. fi. ?:2T_
.0?J. I>titon, Mon-la H. B . 20:28
21? K. 'Jray. Commercial H. 8. 20:34 _
22? R. Dunlap. Iterrln.er H. S.20:36
23 ? H. Angua. Central H. 3.. Newark.. 20:4-H
34?L,. M Davldaon. Morris H. 8. 20:41
23?K. Logan, Central H S.. Newark. 20.42 -
T_jn f.or*?flchenertady Hlgh School. Sl;
Central Hlgh School of New_rk, 68: Slorrla
Hlgh School, 75; Barrlnarar Hlgh Sohool, 110;
Cocnmercial Hlgh School, 140; De Wltt Clin.oa
Hlfh fc^hool, lfKJ; Hlgh School of Commerce.
218; Jamalea Hlgh Hehool. 269, Tonkere Hlgh
s.-liooi, 280, Manual Tralnlng Hlgh School, 823;
Eraamua Hall Hlgh School. 339; Eaat, Oransre
Hlgh Hehool, Ml; Boya' Hlgh School, Brook?
MANUAL SWIMMERS BEST
Defeat Commercial High School
ln Dual Meet.
The ewlmmlng team of Manual Tralnlng
Hlgh School defeated the Commerdal
Hlgh School ln a dual swlmmlng meet at
the Fourth Avenue Baths, Brooklyn, yes?
terday. The score was 38 to 20. Commer?
cial got Its only flrst place when Charles
Lovy won ln the fancy dlve.
The summarles follow:
60-yard Mrlfls Wfla bf Preseott Palmer.
Manual Tralnlng; Charles Lery. com
merctal, Becond; Chail-s Ashley. Manual
Tralnlng. third. Tlme?0:30 1-5.
lOf-yard sw1m~\Von hv Preseott Palmer.
Ifanual Tralnlng; Charles l.evy, Com?
mercial, Becondj Jamea Hinea, Com?
mercial. third. Tlme?1:104-5.
flfl-jrai- swlm?Won hy Prescott Palmer.
Manual Tralnlng; Charles Levy, Com
menial. second; Martln Soyvce, Manual
Tralnlng third. Tlme??_7 3-6.
lW-yard relay race>?Won by Manual
TralajBfl Hlgh School, with Aahley. Bar
ron, Powce and Shaw; Commercial, with
Hlnes, Saul, IfeLsod and Levy, second.
Fancy ilive?Won by Charles l.evy,
Commercial, with 64 points; Charles Ash
lejr. Mnnual Tralnlng, with 63 points. *.?.*_
end; Hol.ert McLcod, Manual Tralnlng,
ulth 6. points, thtrd
Flunge for dlsianco? Won by Nathan
Thuyer. MnnnnI Tralnlng. with a dl^-tance
of 4_ feet: Kdward Barron, Manual Traln?
lng, with a dlstanre of 40 feet, second;
Roberl Katz. commercial, with a dlstance
of 37 feet. third.
Flnal points?Manual Tralnlng. 83; Com
r p flfalflrea ied m* -bfli m th? ran ?weep
stalcei over the llnka of the Apawarrla Club
yeaterday afternoon. returnlng a card of 80?
12-77 There were about thtrty entrl-a.
The followlng returned carJa:
Groae H'cap. Net.
R. P. TValdron. 89 12 77
fl. B. Mathewa. 9H ls *o
S. H. l^ver._. 89 0 80
ft. T. Waldon . 92 11 81
H. A. Fhennan. 82 !> 83
A B. Alley.108 in ?n
NA8SAU COUNTRY CLUB.
About two doten playe?? took part In medal
play handicap at the Naasau Country Club yes?
terday. C. K. Robertaon belng the winner. with
a card of W?3-?76.
The followlng were the carda returned:
Oroaa. H'cap. Net.
C, D. Kobertaon. 99 24 73
A. C. Itonnda. flfl flf 76
B. S. Wlllard.101 2.'. 7?
H. W. c rane. 90 12 7S
H. A. Pean.100 18 82
W H Rlcharda. 94 10 84
? ? a
LIKE C0AL8 TO NEWCASTLE!
Krom (bfl _ajs__BB Joarnal.
Arthur Maxwell and ICrnest Ward, of llow
doln. ahlrped nearly a ton of auckers for tha
Naw York market thla week The ndnn
were In hoxes and will retall at a fancy prl^
In tha city. The aucker Induatry around H"w
(tolnha_.i has grown ao that many people In
the vlrlnlty make th.lr Hvlng by It. t____fl
hrlng from 6 to 1Z canta a pound In the New
Western Swimmers Not Satis
fied with System Used.
NO UNIFORMITY A FAULT
Eaatern Faction Contends No
Advantage Is To Be Oained
by Technical Changes.
The group of Wa-stern watermsn headed
by Frank Bornamann. of the Chlcago
Athletlc Assoclatlon, which is so anxloua
to have the Amateur Athletlc Unlon revlse
the preaent faney divlng cole, have placed
thelr advocated changea ln concrete forra
ready to present to the authorltles.
One of the men who was Instrumemal
ln draftlng the proposed changes sald, ln
talklng to a represetnatlve of The Trlb?
"We would llke to see the schedule stm
pllfled, and to have it stated whether
c-nrh dlve ls tn be pciformed standtr.g or
running. We hold that a dlfferent ap
proach does not alter the dlve ftself, and
the diffrrence In executlon should not
affect the scale of points classlng tt, If,
therefore, a contestant performs a run?
ning dlve from a standlng pcsltlon. or vlce
versa, he ls slmply executing imperfectly,
and we beiie-. e he should be penallzed two>
points, lrresepectlve of form.
The ayateM of officiatlng ls not in our
opinion aatiafOOtory. We think lt would
be Improvc-.t by appolnting a eompetent
umplre, wlth i>owcr to decide whether the
competltor peifonns the particular dlve
he has nomln.itc.d or not, hls declslon to be
accepted as flnal by the Judge*.
"We also wlsh to ralse the questlon aa
to whether any dlveB should be man#
compulsory. If ao, we clalm their char
acter should ba clearly epeclfled. For ln
stance, a plaln forward dlve ls now eall. 4
for, but no infoimatlon ls given regard
lng Its executlon, whether standlng or
running, the arms ralsed on the take-off
or later, havlng the character of a lay
out or swan dlve, etc Under auch elastlo
rules unlformlty ls unattalnable.
"Another reform that we advocatc 1*
the gradlng of dlves Into three divlsions,
termed Junior, Interrnedlate and senior, or
champtonshlp schedules. We have found
i about sixty-flve dlfferent dlves that are
j belng p? rformed here or abroad, and they
can be easlly classed by degree of dlfH
culty. If compulsory dlves are voted for,
they should be lncluded ln all three
cUsses. and a total of points establlsh.-d
f<T them without consideration of degree
of dlfBculty; this would avold superfluou*
"Flnally, we are ln favor of cuttlng
down the number of optlonal dlvefl to
twenty or so, ln order to almpllfy th*
work of the Judges, nnd Instead of grant
Ing a total of points aecordlng to th*
nature of a dlve?at present ranglng from
unsuccessful to excellent?we would have
the awards allotted at the rate of three
points for work on the board and ln take
off. four for the fllght ln tho alr and threo
for the entry ln the water, thus reachlng
the total of ten."
Eastern experts are not ln sympathf
wlth these amendrmnts and can point out
many flaws ln them. A forraer cham
plon said on the subject:
"1 will show you. ltem by ltem, why
we conslder the Wosterners* attitude un
warranted. Whlle a running or standlng
take-off may not change a dlve, it makes
more or less dllflcult its executlon, and lt
matters little whether you deduct two
points or just estlmate the dlfference on
the list of awards. The result ls the
same. We can see no advantage ln a
mere technleal change. As to decreelng
whether a plaln dlve should be performed
one way or the other, lt would be unfalr
to the contestant. The Judges are, or
should be, eompetent to estlmate the
worth of the performance.
"The lntrod'i, Ing of an umplre ls Inad
visable, becauBe lt ls always dangerous
to lnvest one man wlth supreme power.
A bla-ssed umplre could cause the defeat
of any contestant by declarlng he had
not performed one or two of the dlves
he had ealled.
"The gradlng of dives seems rather use
less. as we have no Junior and lnterm.Mi
ate c'.asses. Clubs have often held con
tests in which no feat rated hlgher than
a eertain number of points was permltted,
and this B?awera the purpose without dls
turblng the present state of affalrs.
"The dlfferent system advocated for
points ln the compulsory dives Is another
mere teehnicallty, which would probably
complicate matters. iaPtSBd of helplng.
"As to IBBtlll llllg the optlonal dlves to
twenty or so. it would be most unjust to
the men whose best speclaltfes were ellm
Inated, a thtng unavoldablo !n selectlng,
and such a Btep would awaken protests
and recrlinlnatlons, fully justifled, from
"We cannot see how the Western re?
forms would lmprov? conditions ln any
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