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If diesal afa? tiefl re??ii!l? in sin i tun 1 HI
TRIBl-VE -faaraateSS tt. \>a\ ?mir ?___>)
ha? _ apea r.qu?--t. No rcrl tupe, no ?|uil?
blir-c .*? e ma.e K<*7>d prompt l> If the ad
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se from Califoi thai a
I -, the other day for
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? ieai s of protection on which
. - foitk In efficacy of peace
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d, met again and ad?
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i at it
In the Senate and the
.' ' ?
to increase the army, and the
y wa- ot.lv such '
; in Otd nary. '
nger, i mili
to hold its
? -. '.?ri-likc it
Why England Should Be Saved.
? ard a
...:.. i . i other
'1 undvii.;.* 'y tow
and for thai
. I ? . ning it ara
. ?? . 'I hi
tha- ? en out
? ..;. fall
chroi and incurable
? ? pren
an Ingenuity of a
nosm to them i
all others to it
will ar.'l them I
i. ? .. Italian but 1
iah, but it:
pitj i ' i
pid allk " a_h
"for her -ak?'." In tin piril it
?*?? ? ? . who
un- t., ?.; | ? !
. . : for '\.t>..
peoplee" who the igh i..?t fighting I
? by the evil eye
'hat they . _? : - Qerasany
1 . in the rijrht.
M_.rk. haves?, thai th.- Bngttsh them
rea are not for a itiomc |
! Irish, th.- Beata, the men , f Un?
an of Britain'- alii? I,
. have keen aemplete
H it the Eng.
g that I
?.. . " i* .?*
stht?.- ?t I " a'iti that ":h<
mnsses of the pe??j I?
atara than ever."
' ? ? ' ? <?!>? by the
pewer ??f Sir ?
if it u?ii- ? trol tin
tality in ti f the Ei
,,-i.-ihty. whatever it Is, BOUld I
sat o? the worid, ?;
I hoped that when tn?* day COUtaS
.'...;?.. . \ ? ?
?r irift ur..
? ??-..?? : i
The Spirit of the Suffragists.
bt about th?
for the bal
. ?? .
mad, bravii g
- raw vit.?1. then to march fr
? '?Hi PaVk,
. thousand.? of women d
s I ai -1 task even for the rep
: s turdiei ; ' - the to
?. ? . . \, who were in line. Evi
women who marche?! showed
the pni eipk of equal suffra
which ing admiration and si
port fp te malet "t* thii gi
have n? rer hud
rnake i ? for their piivile
In the face O? a i-piri? like that ?t BBCI
? '. a*- tl?f anti-auffrag
that the* coming of equal suffrage can
iy bo delayed. I
ai ;. pe having een 1 he impn
sive band of women who tl
r.iimber.-. in bearing, in determination
i iiffrage fig
. . ? til Jt is won
blind, blind to the* history of the ? xtc
pari lion in goveri itk
to ths i.ature.
? women will come in this stat
Ihii year or in some future ye;
ii not i tant 1 " ? women ther
selves B I '?? the state. Men of tl
? ? . I . '. \
? ?? ? day declarei
tlf bond, half free
It is certain thai no dt-moi-i ;u-\ can reeve
its full? ' i which is a demticracy
ilf it- peo]
franchi) * '1. New ,? '?'\
??ni w< ? . ?-. .-m are the state, shoul
bond, halt' free.
Pedestrians and Street Accidents.
Il rill ? ffend ver) ? j o our pedei
told by the Police Commit
r that they are in large n ?
. for the streel s lenti con
monly attributed to vehicular traffic. Y?
this ? i?'?'ii,*-'i?'il m Ins quarter]
. ? to be borne <mt by s
analytic inquiry carried on for two month
by the P epartmenl ? il oln i
unjusl or wanting In plausibility.
Setting aside the casualties amoi
Iren, upon whi-h the report dwells a
?i. it must be admitted that petiet
have been slow to adap
? - to cuirenl condition.*?. It i
idle to deny this obvious fact when th
of eighl or ten years ag
dered. At thai time traffic of a!
m New York was shockingly chaoti?
? h playing reck
? the atre? ts of so busy s towi
igh, bul the cs
way in which drivers ai d
? ? alike we*:i on their way wa
itizena from all grea
citic.? abroad. *
the e) traordinary refora
? e la-1 few years. In few eitii
trail i- anagemenl moi
? ? .?. New Y. ?-I. to day ai ?";.i a
? ? affic i- concerned, only s i ei ?
ago th.? poli? s were helpless
1 th? ; ice, they did no! und? i
how to control traffic, and when at las
arned the rudiments of the- busi
the drivers of vehicles refu i
? o ..[..rate. They often defied the |
i imt uncommon spectacle s
. M"',v. en a policema
a truck di:
te of affain i - fortunat? -
? learned the impor
to the traffic ruli
those ol snj othei
in ti?? world. ?London ii not ?nor?
? il lik?
B country town . ay.
But while- the drivi B havi
? . adapt ib? ? modern require
the old way and are ai yet un-wil]
i ?., seem still to be dwelling in
age. It may well be thai tiny have
than the driven ;.- mend
for the drii
lean ? t" comply with the
sant s Sooner or later
? sary to enforce
are i ipp sed to ?jovern
p?'iii ? .1 bo j. ey tree! have
appan ? I j m rked ?Bond? i
? ii ni j.-' ??'"". ? ?' to rnake
oas "f Um streel . i res
! there will be no order end BCC?dmta will
i continue ta? multiply,
Mr. Brady on Woman's Dress.
Prom two pulpits on Sundaj
Be\. i T iwnw lid Brady dei?
woman si iff rafe as "an insult to Co,!."
His principal oj i ? to th.* current
stieg, wai on the high gr?ond that ;t
.??i effoii -if ?roman to entei s
for which the I reatoi di I not intei
?natter als?. ,,s a question "7'
' '? ?pediency, and in this
? ' ? ere
Until t- have any ham! In politic
? of judgment,* and bj
?if pro. ing w \ at be raiicoiirod to be "the
I) without judgi
- nougfe to aaj what th->
? ?'? and where withal they will be
? . ; | tied. The
with which ? ? ? dictum of fash?
ion and oh--' In the ephemeral
aai tot Lai idiot irrent is ii dicative."
\> d then i"- arent on 1 :'= ?in(l
?riahed the women o?
m his pul
? ' ' \. I . il them, "should a
?i areai feather- on her in id ' Dot
any oti?. think they ai ; ! Imafii i
the Venus of Mile ...
? ach?es If you
eluded, "b< ? ou ask t < > he trusted arith
the '? '
\:-.,, ethei ras a I laah ng sort
a sermon thai Mr. Brady gave them, but
i- was one thatffeuld have been given arith
impunity onlj from a church pulpit A
heckler under ?e?. fovorable
would have thrown hi- words hack in Ma
teeth. Why should 8 man wear a M if',
ihiny ? epipe on his h<_. Io Does any
'hitik it handsome? Imagine the
,,,!? ? -.t d '
;.u; the aboul woman's
slavish conformity in dreaa the better.
Women often drees foolishly, bul a*
fh?-y have some Individual freedom and
latitude in their f"A- ? man has virtu?
ally none by comparison and dares not
adapt his clothing, except in the most In
details, to his personal convic?
tions. How many men would be so bold ac
to renn ev< tht ? ? ttls buttons
they have won: for generations In the
of their bs
\ ; ? lustratioi of whal l"- conceives
? i Mr. Brady's
Court Review Unaffected.
What) tagonl m toward the new
constitution has been built up nmonp*
pollcemen and firemen by tin- s'i.tement
that it would deprive them of court re
view of dismissal tases should be
resr by thi declaration of Mr, Mi ?
Bteinbrink. Mr. .teinbrink was ??
nized ai the spokesma for these city t
ployea in the Conatitutional Convention.
He W S em that their present priv
does not rest on any constitutional
affirmation; thai I net constitution will
-hange the mandates ?>f legialaturet
and courts on ti bjed i iota, and
that under '''?>*? home rule provision ? re?
f local au I endes I hai g*
? ?! em?
ployes the Legislature mijrht *till provide
by general laws for court review o?
? municipal employ?---.
The mer ? ? irt re. iew I
do not < ' i ' ' '
tution shall be adopt, d.
That issue rhere It has alaraya
been With tht Leg il ire and the local
authoril " _nj attempl to ei I :
t tht ' tution
on thai gi due either to
ignorance or un tcrupuloui
Equal Pay for Equal Woffca
.un.- i i * he employ? op to the
salary standardization which the Budge!
? . ighl t" be
ed bj Mayoi Mitchel's insistence thai
it must include raisin) o? alarles, when
. us well a- cutting overgrowi
That, of course, > what salar; t?ndard
. contemplates; bul it Isn't what
? heads have undertaken
? , .-. at the Mayor's di
? ? m, will lie rectified.
'1 in.-, city tieetN badly a revi ion of the
payrolli. [1 eda the elimination oi
some of ti reated foi politicians
ami assigned by politic! I favoi. II
to ha . o? the inflated salaries de
. hi re 'he pay is com
mensurate with the work done. B I II
it afford, in justice and decency, to
nd able employes doing
..?ork of a i ? ih!?- of being "atend?
ed" with the arork of other d< part
an the standard rate.
It' th" thing of merit in this sal?
. it is the fair and
? application of the "equal pay t - ? r
equal wo . pie. That inevitably
ip salariai as ?voll a< lav
elling them dovm. On such a baaii only
? ? can protest who Und them
? 1 unworthy of the salaries they
nff\\ draw; and for them there is not like?
ly to be j7 . .thy.
Hoa tsd tbs
? ??? ' ? : i I-1.
thing - . - ?. t,u *.
? '?' Bat, then, Mr. i !hareh '.1 might
A hint Blssing
w 11 n h I ?
What Will Tiny Fight0
? The Triltune.
Sir: il..,. -, ?? m .- ... ,1 raffrage. The
? I ? \t m Jar*
Feet at tbs pells, are re
orgaaii ig foi gooc*.
sf it Bat what ai
ted, ? up!, r. iavertebrata atti?
tude . ? ??.??? hj aterleal
maudl , ? ntallty of tl te ei
Will : ??. arith open aaiad ami
jtium, !...? ia, Italy aad Serbia srs : : ^-h t i nj_ 7
tm!I pain, as the v.omen "?'
...'?- gsialng, equality,
? ' .'i .i.ty,
to fighting . i"?!i
SBt it-1 the mule voter, and those stupitl
ghtly tu ra
then the i.??Il..t. Two .. ? . naaka
?i light, hut tare Stupidities will nevi-r make
?ARGARET ASHLEY K-ik.TKi.n
Hi Oet -?_, re?;,
Cause for Thankfulness.
1.? lbs Editor of The Tribune.
Bin Ape?pea th? pease aad preearedae *
th. eharch? - srs Itesi con
eting get te thank
Qed that "Britai
my weald, sad as all
v. h it ii..? i. rytk lag ? .?-i it
rURODORE MI< Hl L
m teklya, Oet It, II
STAND PAT NEW JFaRSEY
Old Fnahioncd Ideals and Vicious
El?ments Form Strange Part
To th- f. ; tot ? I Tl ?- Tribal *
r j u , v 44' "i?*n of Now Jar?
sad ipli '
' "'r'" '
... -.- nded pel
?. .-. . ??'
e political 1
p_. The air.? have gaiaod bo.
Imply bold, f"r ?? ahorl I
tand pnt poaltioa, Hint even *li*?t In
. I fur then, by powers that ou I I
bring a blurb of ?bar.., to their .foCOO.
Had artsdaa. sad iatall .?? ace d??waad th?*
novemeat, h?.<l tn?-n soaesroad ?b ths wel?
fare of ?rorkiag wasssa sad ?l eoaated chil?
dren be.n ths onei to sel I "? ?
ugani?t u? we rnig ? I ? ' '
A? it Is, i IghttM ' I men and " agree
that i-x'iv saToii i.i isi be mads for ths
of helpless hutnnnit>. for whils say S]
? mffrags aopeadi for its sil
apoB thS individuals mi?! politic? that ?loon
BOtOd New .Jerfev on (>ct,.t?r-r 19 grave ?l.n.?:'It
io th?- -t?tc threaten?.
? rea.oa.bef a ?tory on?-?? tob! of a prurri
? | old '.arly who was told by lier fia?*oi thai
? be content n ;n-:. itatS Ifl whirl.
God had placed her.
' \ .'' tl ? Bged rrea'ure ; I I ll I ?On
a-in?' BBYthing .ill.".'
II ?lnio?t Stroms a? if tin- ??? I I
? . M'iie?? and justice will Had Neu
I- rsey before lone snd in th?* moan time we
?-. "ir.<-n ef Now York mii"t work burder and
i.-.?- ?".ir State from a limitar fate on N'oveni
I er 'J, in?! our g-.od mr-n mu?t help u? an?! 104
that WS I..-.? fuir piny. Should we be de?
feated, 1st us roallae thai prejudice ?nd old
lied ideal.- arc mir W0I I IBSBaiOS ?B the
Empire Stat?, i.ot fraud r.nd irjn ?
(IAKU1KT T ? oMSTOCK.
Brooklyn, Oet 20. 191.*..
Too Much Suffrage.
To th<? Editor of The rri!ii;i?r
'...?.- thai the Buffrsg? "?
,...,.. ,.,,. roar r?
will gi.-?. less ?pace in vour valuable papof to
Hin! tbeir activities "? Tour editorial!
und report? of their camps SVS 1 ? ?-.-. -
much -in th?ir favor, ' ths 11 sf ths
i elemeat opposed to them, tl si
been a surprise sad dlsappolBtmoBt t?? s eon
reader like myself.
I ?up; " ' . your policy to publish the
the suffragettes write to you. but after
i.iief-il rrading of them with a very fc.v ex?
ception? 1 BBVe failed to find one argument
n favor Ol vote?! for women. On the ron
trary, each letter has ridiculed tiieir op
1 ?puent?, and in mo?* iastBBOBS ihOIVB much
malieo. Do they expect t:. iaflaeaes the men
4*'.i-' rot? ?ii.'.- wan- ).-. lefa language
toward t!ie women ^if their families?
There are. of course, . trht fill
* abe wool tO vote, i" ? will be
;,r ?idvnn'age to themselves h'.' WS judge
the party by their work and their methods,
. In mir opiflion, Hre rontrary to every
? '? :.! of true womanhood.
No, it'? th? Hilent vote that count? and
win?: it.'? the majority that win?, and the
? ?v may be trusted to lie right, el??* |
great eeaatrv would boI have auuie th? 4 ?
ieri'iil progress it ha?.
GRACE I. STEVENS
Brooklya, Oet W, ItlS.
Morals, Marriages and Women's
To the Editor of The Tribune.
Sir: Your corresponden?, L A. Ru?lmg,
sroaes ironical in hi? questions regarding
tl.ffects of Wiiman suffrage in th?- Kar
.?"?st; among them Is this?: 'T? every en<*
divorced?" It is cause for congratulation
that so far divorce has not becom ? bb
m the laffrogs itatos, bat anfort 1
there appears t?. be b drift in that direc?
SB ad 1res ? 'i< liverod in TobI I
in this city a few weeks sgo ths Rev. B.
'?'ill?, of Los Angeles, stat.',I that that
' American of all 'he large
of the Halted States, having a larger
native American populatiofl than any other,
and yet he said family life had become ?o
demoralised that there is now one divorce
:r marriages in Los Angt-lea. A.?
Dr. Miiis has long been a rooideal of that
city it is presumed that he know? v '
be affinas, Par be it freea ma to aaggeal
thai there i? any eaaaaetioB beta oes woman
-sutTrago an?| th. ? Hut
Il it not a curiou, coincidir ?? I -.? m the
t of the suffi
le this ?frOSriag disregard of :i.
1. i 1
Hem York. Oct. Si, 1916.
The Pot and the Kettle.
'1 ? ine.
. : ? 1 tato ol ? ? fork over 1
? b oman ?' at, lei us hope
1 ? i. be ? il ? ; ?
11 majority o! ?'?
' bj SCBtimoat, l.ut by reason: riot by
prejudice, bal by logic, that ?uch an
lesil not bo
1 b) "arguments" like the foil
s pp sa rod in your editorial of Oe
tbeir Net Jersey
' ?' It Ifl the
?he "i?!"' ?? ? ". are all the
?1 roeool y>- in 1 ;?ri.? .1
sad received the punishment which the com
? ? the proper portioa .
? er anil
the coir ipl 01 ??'
If yo.i .., tually believed that edil
the 1 writiag 11 ye 1 ihoeld look about
you and appraise the mental calihr??, ?> ??
civic virtue bi
? der? of the ?uf
I' ' you t.nd ? ? .
!.. political inour.*. ' B?ks,
rogues, no convicted or uncu
corrupticni?!? sdvocatiag woman suffr.
? PHEN P. THAYEB,
Yoaki r . N. T . "? ?? 22, till
: tor of The I 1 b
No better eemiBBU! could be
upon the striking portrait- BB JTOUr front
page to-day one ?>! ths Democratic boat ..?
the other of the suffrage loader than that
supplie-' on another pa-?- * !?;. the . ? Is '
girl?" ho wer? te dll lib?te :r,iw tiallots
in a theatre II iae a*l make any difference
how retnied people bogifl by being if the>
stoop t?. win by ufir.liied methods I . .
rig >4.".ir^ gtrh n itortliag eostamoi in
. d 01 daagerooi :
'?'::' What kind
OS .I"?'- ail til- '..). ? ,
I? BI BHNELL
!'?.,ce hale. It. I., Oct. 19, 1915.
VOTES FOR WOMEN
S,,?. _,.,n,. Cri*!-*?. A'Z""""" ??*? W'"nin?" " 'hr QU","'n "' ,qUa' SUffra'" ,,Dm '"* T*-?J
I '? the Editer of The Tribune
Bin i w'.uM like te thaal fat -!r.rereiy
si m'- tads en ths suffra.?- ajasstlea.
' g Hae irle.ful reports la "The Sam
Voik T:t,ie?" ef the defeat In New Jersey it
? ,-?. ,? comfort te buy yeoi*peper, kaew?
;?., thsl thers woald be is it soma words of
, ? ? uragenent,
I ?rn .- id tl ? "VetSS for V. omen" had Bach
. ? ?
,, It Is s far big i
ted by them than to ha I
threagh their a ilataaee. Every good woman
roald havs beea Hshiim"*-!! if thess
? for?es had favored the emise. Their
Ittaeka en -.?t?man Iu'Trnge ?ad th?*ir un
I'Mittinir exertions against allowing Woman
to havs a rales la ths mMliiig ef laws which
, tO control ths lives of her children show
? they f?-nr her.
? aalooaa honored "Votos for Women"
: 'ii their wind.ws big
their p?treas to defeat the
A "machina politician" has aetaa sa :
that he Worked iigainst it, not hec(?-i
omen wers incompe'ent. bat be
ths "mschiaes" would not be able to
control lhe:r vot.s as easily as the v?,tea of
Men whs hate "mnchine politics" ought by
? me |f any of them are left *ho be
'-:ig.>. *<? r?.?iii.-.e that esped?
i istles SB ths ?
need hat a that warnen i
? ?! their home? if th??>
?na little rets ifl regard to laws
I eeatrel their babie? and their home?
An old admirer of The Tribune,
MARIA GORE SHANKS.
-Ottenvtlle, Staten IslHtid, Oct. _0, 1011
Too Shocked to Argue.
To the Editer of The Tribune.
Sir: You have been advocating woman suf?
frage Thnt la your privilege and no one has
i right to object. When, however, you at?
tribute th<* overwhelming defeat of woman
mi fr.-/?' ii New Jersey to the bosses and the
"liquor ring." I am moved to question the
of your statement.
I hu ? sen eeaseiona of the influence
upon my individual action of a bo.?, or a
'? qaor ria/r? :>'??' meet of my seqaalntances,
fur as I have been able to leurn, ?ike myseit,
toted _i;a:r?-' the suffrage BB-SBdment, and 1
'have ns doabt that then srs theusaada liks
u- If ths !" 18? - and ths Iitjuor ring were
actively working sgainsl the cau.e the)
'..i doabt mads ths majority of the satte
larger, hut I am convinced that the better ele
nu tit carrirtl the flection. Fty "fetter ele-'
tuent" I mean th? people arhe de set hang
around saloon* and who src not under the
control of h" ?.-'??.
When about to enter the poll* last evening
I am a Jer?<"ymani f was aecos'ed hy
woman, who invited me to stop and talk w
her. If I had not already been irrevocal
Opposed to .'.oman suffrage the incul'-itt wo;
hivt. terasd me against it. The idea B_ I
w.fe or Mat? i- or daughter seCOStiag stmr
BBSn for SB) reason whatever, OS harangui
? men in the .*. '"? aheekiag to me, arul I
mors I ksivs ,-,*ii and heard el aromes n t
? , . ? a more spps ' t *" their ha ag rel
: hecome. H A HEWITT
Out of His Own Mouth.
To the Editer of The Tribune.
( : I an; qaeting the following cxc-rp
from an art ids given out by Jam?s K N
gent, who led tho anti suffra-*-. tight in N*
"New JoTBSy leads off in tn* light for ?ai
government and na'.onal politr.-s, the pun
of the home ai?_ the protection ?>f her WOS
,/,| Women in 'he home and BOt m po
. women the greatest moral force in t|
. en ' OBwealth, the protector and g .
their children, I? what New Jersey votei
1 real,-.- .1? not think Mr. Nagent cou!
have written a ?'rongep argument for w-oma
suffrage, although thot w-as no*, what h
meant to d". He Is like nine men out of tea
they all admit that women tiro''1'-' 'he purit
of the home; that they are the greatest mon
S, and that it 's th??ir infl.eii.e ths
gni.|?M children properly, and je- the) del
'h?-r-i the 'i..- greet era] of esertiag ?
fluenrr. t.. s. SCHLESINGEB
Mea York, Oct. 20,
No "Womanly Woman" Want
To the Editor of The T?ibune
Sir: Three cheers for Jersey! I am prou<
of my nativo state, which las voted agains
the monster of woman suffrage.
If the women would attend to their homei
and families matead of flying over the coun
try in automobiles decorated with th<>ir co!
ors atul making speeches in the streets, th?
country would be far better governed hy tin
men sad there would be fewer divorces
What they vunt any more rights for I do not
Surely no womanly woman would want to
he represented in the government, and they
aroald muddle things most heaatifally by la
t-rfering, as they usually do. Yellow, which
msaas Jealousy, is a mo . appropriate color.
AN OLD-FASHIONED AMERK AN,
' New York. Oct. I'D. 19If.
What Defeated Suffrages
To the Kiitor of The Tribune.
Sir: What defea'rd woman .-tuffraje jr
New Jersey 1 Wilson that'.* all.
ED. E. TERRY.
New York. Oet, 2!, 1.1..
To ?he Rdttet of The Tribone.
Bin In your e . Itei si of .;,.;, morning I
detect a d pas tien to credit th* machine,,?
ths political part m with ths victory > Seo
it, <*y A* a cor.-ar.t reader of The TftS
for over fifty year? I have letrned to rsase?
It for its strati ...- ., ru.
? sad Its setter!
But I ? ? < thst ths rssall ?f tht ? asl si
,.. Iff, lersey ? laaaawsrahle sa sa md?.
rleariy against aoi ? , . tri(j th?t ^
f It te jsnart
., ,.;. r. except, _- - ? ?na, they h.
[On Oetobei 'The Tr..-;-e ., ,..
Hers women should vo'e expr.??ed th? r ei>r'.
v.r? .on or; *'? - i I? OSe
on wh:<il it difference of .pintea,
r fair te ??-ten?,
er te seist tha . lt metete *&.
chine mad?* "
They Don't Have to Vote.
To the Editer "f rbs Tribune
S.r: I read reg.larly and admire greet!,
your paper tl p*f, ^
your sper-?l . . ? . , gthefalgj
wonder is na'i.ra'
Here . t,.
?t a -run iBf
tturea of tht
women who .re - ? ?i ? pn\pjp.
suffrage." accomps- raaai of matter
exploiting 7he r oppea Hob, I ?m more. _
wonder why in th? aaaM ??er _.artn %?
-.re hea axp aiaed am that they will set
be affected in the tl ghteet i?t??? by ths
aurcess of woman taffragS They may star
away from the poll- if they want to, hUaa
their d* ar hearts'
Do tell them ab?. ,
FORREST A. HFATR.
Rrdgeport, Corr If 1915.
A Question of Time.
To the Editor ef I
I i : Thank you alacersly for ye-;r Hi
tonal in rhia moralng'a Tr:hure, "Those Wht
Celebrate." There ? a* ? a leffraga worker
er a ?? "i .
tea' vM'h such foe? is in ita^lf a half rie
It is now saly a quettio. o' time, an.
while we realize that it will "tsks a littl?
mor?- ' IBM tr.'ght ht
r,eee?sary elsewhere, there it no doubt at tt
Somerville, N. J, Oet It, ItU.
POSTPONING THE INEVITA?
Votes for Women Sure When 1
understandings Are Cleared I
? Editor ef The Tribune.
Sir: Before procei I ag t.? comment 01
?' "T. !'." ? it is interesting to
: hut the only anonymous letter among I
published 'his morning irai ?Iso the
; nti-suffr**ge onei I want to thank yot:
?our editorial "Postponiag the laevtta
leriag the violer.ee of the oppo?i
illy Ib Esses Couoty, the suffragis
New Jersey have done ipiead dly. Of coi
? ?? defeat there is s disappaiatmeat V
? that ;t will have muck influence in
York. We are not under the necessity
Iof imita?ing any one.
And now for "T. P." The first questi.
should like to ask the gentleman is wh;
Imaginei we have iastitated 'he secret b?
system in this eoBBtrj 1 The plausible rei
. boeauss ws feel that no one has say r
,to know how hi? neighbor voten. I foal q
?.-lire that if a itTTOnger oskod me how I
to vote 1 ihould politely tell him thfi
Bo, in all pre
billty, would "1'. P." How, then does he .
demand thai suffragists should tell
What they Will do with their votes when ?
i;.'t them0 The seeoad question 1 should 1
? ? - lie is under the
? ii that when an immigrant goes to t
OBt his BOtaralisatloa papers he is a
what hs ' '"do with h.s vote when
ProhibitioB soeau to be the thiag
prlnelpelly troubling him. Peeling precis
?i? he dee- about that "sBcieBt and gsn?
.nioai swindle," I recentl* vent to so
i?. .-..? together ?lain on the ?ubj?
and I found 'hat woman suffrage has hod i
lolutely nothing ?hii'i-'.ir to do with 1
- i.f prohibition in any state. I coi
? net I -i --. 1.1.7 i' woul'l m?
this latter toe loag, sad snl
ibis, if "T P
... ;.i ,.-; - i, ,. i ..... ,\ ail
ration No II of the Una Bi
:'r,i;-" A?. ?? ??!!, he '.'?:!', - ! .. proof whi
' bil mind at reat on this score.
I am .to take a leal out of ?
. ol u frlead of miae sad tell a litt
i - - i ?! . -n one of I
os piekel g the g'-e il
tlike a year or tWO ago, and
?? of the soaveraatloB ??sked 1?
i ?he believed in wobsbb luffrage.
-.! th?- girl, "I doa't It's ?
!''???? ?: the null.
fa I BBd what we women nee
??' SBtOfl ' ;i there on upper Tr'ifl
10, what do 'hey kBOW sboUl lift
SOl to have the \ ? ?
? "i ?:.;. fl SB ! S a? ',.
? '?!>? from appef Fifth Avi'i.i
? e a*lie ques-;.>: .
"No," era ths reply, "I dea*, believe I
woman luffl?sgs. It's all rlghl for DM, i
I'vs been to toUegc sad itudied p?
economy, an?! I know rhal I'm abuu
Bu1 ? ant women ,! v.-. th rP on th
? East Bills srhal de they know obos
... tical scoBomyl They're toe ignorant t
JAMES R. KFKNK TAYL01
New York. Oct. 2'?, :
Suffrage Advance in New Jersey
? s Editor of The Tribun ?.
Sir: Woman laffragc dsfsated ia Ni
Not a bit si " v. ,? hOVS no*, j "
?jrosped victory, but what _ wonderful ad
I WB have made' Next time we .-ha!
. win, an?! as the constitution of thl
an be amended once in live years, the
ttoa need not wait very long. To the
yooagOf women the delay may re trying. It
III not pleasant to any of u-. Hut we older
| workers, ??ho have a longer perspective, re
IjelCS to see the won.lcrful change tha* has
. -'ii piece in the last ->?.of years.
. - ago ?inee the ?late as
? ? *T?'rt to amend the
ii'ns'.itut.n. There were other amendments
??ml we ?ought to have a very modest
une submitted restoring to the women of
the rural districts the right to vote for >chor
truste?.- We already possessed that of vol
Tir for taxes, bonds and all other matter
connected with the schools except the trus
tees. We were also and still are eligibl
t<> ?cr\e a- trustees if elected by the rotOS I
men. Many worr.cn have so served in th
state of New Jersey.
Hut even this little .ehool suffrage amend
nient was turned down, and turned down han
especially in the cities The country district
had tried school sucrage for women and the
knew that it worked well.
In that year 189- few men in New Jer-e
believed in giving full suffrage to wrmen, an
BOW more than 115,000 have voted to do so
What a splendid growth of the sen.-e of jus
tics and fair play this show-,! Soon the wav
will ri-e ? little higher and sweep them, th
machine politicians, out of .?ght. In th
man t.me we give our heartfelt thank, t
the ll?.iiOO men in New Jcr.ey who voted t
? nfranchi.se us.
FLORENCE HOWE HALL.
Honorary Pre. nier.! New Jersey Woman Suf
frage As-, t ition.
Oct. -JO. 1W-.
Let More Women Work!
To the Ktlitor of The Tribune.
Sir: I am one of those women who hav?
Misved auffrsgs iaevitaktej I still behev
so, but It is evident that it is not so imrr.e
diately inevitable that the cause can effort
-ueh supporters as I I am one of those wh.
have left it te the wom-n who had time an?
money and surplus energy to make th?3 tiftht
It is because 1 believe that there are thou
aaada ef other, like me that I write this
1 am convinced that even the corrupt an?
the antique-minded could not have produce?.
-Uch a result unless a very large number Si
men hail been honestly convinced that a ma
jority of women did not want suffrage. I
think v?ry great numbers of men voted as II
..eemeii to them that the women wanted then
The time for fighting will not come to u*
Sgsin tor many year?, hut in th>- meantime
l a _ all s'],-_ d igraesfal aaffragists as I
? nie in delag What they can to remove
a srreng impression from the minds ?.f men
who are wiiiing Lo "give" women the vote
"if they want it." In join the party, to
Wear lome emblem at all tisses sad seasons
that --hall impress upon the brains of those
\vl . see it h .-.i.s- aatly recurring s.gn of a
tot to he abandoned or forgotten. Let
the daj ? f? lewtag this '!'-fcat see an im
? ? increase m membership in the suffrage
orgaaisatloBa ef New Jersey, anil let ?t be
- nal for thousands of yellow bu'tons
in apacei ?ia homes, offices, factories, on tne
-tre.ts, In the theatres sad in churches at
ail tlm? I ari. 1 seasons, ui.d not to disappear
fot levee yesrs. This geaeratiee knows what
persist, nt. eentlaeeua sdvertlsiag *vill do
for a hasiaeeei it trill de it for a cause.
[ bel??-ve that it is only necessary for
women to convince men that a sufficient nutn
ber of them earasstly traat ths vote. I, for
BBS, am SShsmsd, >?nd 1 think there must be
- like BSS busy anil poor
who ha\. not ?'one thsif part because they
were too .-.lie. There ia a long and fru.tful
i saaac- ah sd.
GERTRUDE CARNWELL ROPEINI
Craafrrd, N. J., Oct. if, till.
"The Crackle of Thorns."
"lo th'- i ditor of The Tribune.
Sir: Why do the "antis" acclaim the New
JersS] rssah as a glorious triumph?
Ten per cent change in the sentiment of
the electorate would have placed it in the
SSJVal -UtTra;-?- sts'c- forever. This victory
holds it only until the 10 per cent ia o.er
What ether cause has shown such strength
or it- first test? Imagine anti-slavery hav?
ing made such a record. And yet anti -luv
ery legislation wed not nei-essanly tine!, lt
could he revoked.
Hut who of the "antis" has not argued that
eafraaehisiag the women is an irrevocable
And they exult on a ten per cent margin!
"The crackle of theres."
HrookUn. Oet _'_. l.l.Y
A QUESTION OF JUSTICE
What Women Would Do with
Vote Is Beside the Mark.
To the K-litor of Tkt Trhune
Sir: I want to thank The Tribune for whi*
it has done and il doing on behalf of OBBBB
suffrage, and for thi? -T'>ri forum to vhle? v?
may all come. While no or? object! '.? t"
honest "anti" cplnlon, I sm sorry ts
abuse of The Tribune's ho?pr..i!;ty by wist
"antis" who seem to think it re.nfore?? their
po-itioi: to ridicule women ar'. *r.i?rcpr?i*r.*.
them and the facts Mea ar.d .4..men bslss?
up prttty well, I imag * thst hi?
been my observation. If ?ome women ?r?
foolish, heartless, vain, lick jidgment, H?
.-motional, you will f.nd msny women un?
generous and Jt?>t, selfless ar.d calm. Jar.
as you will flnd human imperfection? ?s4
lack? ir men. and cher men nismfeiting tkt
h:irher qualities. Woman hs? no monopoly??
human weakneise?. for, after all, every worn?
l.a? a mother nr.d a father, ?nd ??'try ma?
hns a father and - mother.
No SeOOibls BUB Will be hoo-lwinke?! for?
minute by those porsoaa "? womu
in general, because ?11 of then ?
111 from the question. The question I?
, .. ? Mj ??
men in New Jer-ey in ?ectsrlag f?W *omi?
suffrage ?aid: "It is a violation of the pris
ciple of democracy to deprive soe-holf of tb?
s ths 1
tvhieb they live, the ; 1
?? pilled to - ion " rh? - ? ' ??'<*?
f the 1 rite,! <?:.'? - .mm??*?
derive their just pokers fr-.m the content*
the gover* ?
On- forefathers declsred that ? c
without repre saUtioi ?nd n*
? ,?11, ?o bow! fa it it?
'hat th, taxpaying sromOB ?hall have novo.?
n h..w her BOBO) ihall be e?p?nded. Am?
SB, :.orn Bad ' _\
badge Of CM 52S
raes here ba * ' _\\
, -. ? w ?? ? '
tbat. and I say thia without In en) ? J
ing to deprivi ?"
lege, because ,n my 0? n fsmilj sre m"1?
. and they are g
too. Bol let American BS ' h# um
,.n bave don.* with ? - am
whethe? they use it, what ?ta.
vheth.r any Isrge numb? ? SBBl
Ussy need It, whether ' ' ? '*
women, whethor iadlrecl laie 1 ? ?]
potent than direct BOOO of tl ??J
t,r the mar ??" ?I r-'' ' '."9
on th? que tiOO, ?ithOUg* 1" '"'> \
.toaos the prepoade?. ? '??* J
ngsintl these arguments ?nd in f-">r
women voters. . _,
JUst that mother?, Ifl ttt,?J
daoghura shall b? *n> **
Idiots, Insaae a- -I criminal* '
1, ii just that where men are concerned ?
?Tamil .? "the \atnat the ????"??3
bottai." -nd whoi ? "-<? ^,*a
.4, are toid of the "terrible meres*
.? th. cost of election-.' * .
!? "taxation without "'?^'.^???ta
|, H ju-t that one class shall ^?"Z
?.other class: Women are bom?' *??_?> +
? now the need? at homo and dild'<?? tarn
ar? the providers; their interest, arc ia m>
w"rld oi h'' u n .?i!l be ten
b ,t just that woman ?*????" ^ TJ
,,,,:,.,, to sceomplUh the leg.??m? *"?
sphere thrOOgh indirection' Woold -^
o sailing reeeel ?round Caps Berate ttma
San PraaeiSCO. or SO overland ttatOT
lio let ... have the us, of th??"??S
don't coi pel BS to take ^e sa-.l-nsj-^
?a- ma] g?t there es the ?eiheg _~**ji
think of the effort, time. WOO* .ne??
,oorg>, which should be put to l*ttor ?J.
, baveatway. bad a soi? m- ?^3
for The Tribune, as it is ?? r> ^ ,
paper I ever read, and I continue IS ??
legulat reader ,
A BELIEVER IN ULTIMATE 41 ^-ll*
Nev?. York, Oct. 19, 191t?. ^^*****1