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THE WEATHER FORECAST. Cloudy and cooler to-day; probably fair to- morrow; moderate northerly winds. Detailed wttther reports will be found on page 21 VOL. LXXIX. NO. 230. NEW YORK, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 17, 1912. Copyright, lot:', by th Sun VnnHna nnrf PuhlMmo Association. PRICE TWO CENTS. HOPE ABANDONED OF THE LOST FOR ALL BUT ABOUT 800 TITANIC'S THOUSANDS r " . TV. a Bam .aBBBBB aBBB aBB 'BBM BBB . V.asaaBBBBBBBr'3liaBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBL-aBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBaraBBBBBl Hf Vtl -BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB1 aBBBK . S BBBBBBl "" ae-"!! V V vK. w iHtttaBaaas bbIbhbbbbbbbW abbbbbbb&bbL m s in E5 11 D El GuerCrErrjrETfi fCEirxitEl WAlirifQ-AT XfffJTE STATt &CfETlir. MET? HUSDi JTD IS XilSSItTCf , 2)Z WITT SSJLICtHAH at LEFT . Sil?s. SEJ.IfHATr JiEX-OWT' TITANIC KNEW OF THE ICE AHEAD but a Few Hours Before She Struck It. TWO BIG BERGS THERE She Relayed the Message to Land as She Went on Toward Them. PROBABLY THOSE SHE HIT Only 22 Miles Between Their Given Location and the Collision Point. UWENtlf utm AT THE WllTE STATf orriccs. his son. george t k wwzncK is AMoiwcf run jysswcr. MRS TSIVEJVEI? SAVED S17? JfVfY AT ' - : d FOUR OFFICERS SAVED ASTOR, STRAUS, STEAD GIVEN UP FOR LOST ; Carpathia Has the Only Survivors Lists of Cabin Passengers Saved Practically Complete nearly all of I hp inpii on tho Titan ihiwii wiiii um miii wni'ii MiijminKCUj two inili-s lowanl tlio ocean llooc oc that tlicy (ivrixhcd vvliilo clinging tii wreckagtj TtrSSi Olympic Says Neither the Virginian Nor the (inht of thp Hulo rocking boat that h1d their women and children. It cannot ! ilonlitpd that among theno Tunisian Has Any Survivors. ThU trf??3 comss from Capt. tMt canm throuKli thu iilr j t-liin u-nKfiM Mavcd and mUnitiK arn i yivtnrdny mitigated in any I very nearly final, although thn Whit Not h' n j napp tim pity m) thn horror of tho 1 Mi' ii-ndy except n individual i '.., namliatpd hy thn gradual utldl- f name to tho Jint of tho linown "" I here nro no known rturvivors '' '' "r ' ' on the Carpathia. The Vir - ' w iu inn lato and found none and ' 'i' ' "iip hns reported finding any. '' " " t y fog Hmothered ieaH whero "' 1 '" hank oxoMirH imtt boon " ' I' roved tiioMi who were loft to lifo ' ' 1 ' wieckngn when all the loatn v ' v hf mid no help had come and tho i c -'i',nriip foundered. The reced- jStar officials hrtpe that tliero may have been name dropped or niiKiindiTBtood in tranntniiwion. I wiut night they were lie ginning on the Moorage lintx. Tho cabin lints nhow i"n survlvorH from I the Hi hi cabin and 107 mlsning; ill Biir i vivorx from the second cai)ln and 2fi mixHing; total, 2HK wived; 371 mining; grand total, n&O. The totals do not tally with any previous estimate of the number of passengers in these cabins and it may lie that Home of the hteeragn passengers I may have got into the lists of survivors. The White, Star Une arranged yesterday ' t'APK HAfK Makcoxi STATION", April 16. HiKhlock of the Olympic via thn Celtic: "Please allay rumor thai Virginian has nnv Titanic pafongero; neither hai. the Tunisian. Heliovt1 only survivors on Carpathia. .Second, third, fourth nnd fifth officers and second Marconi operator only officers reported saved." HA l.ll'AX, April 17. -In reply to a despatch sent by the Halifax manager of the Allan Lino Capt. Huines of the steamer Parisian lias sent the following by wireless: "I hav no survivors of the Titanic,' on board and no official information as to the fate of the ship. Kxpect to roach Halifax early this morning." The Carpathia at I o'clock this morning; reported passing through a severe electrical storm, which Interfered with the wireless transmission. Still another report from Cupt. Haddock was: "Carpathia reached Titanic's position at daybreak. Titanic sank about twenty minutes past 2 o'clock in the morning, in 41.18 north latitude, 50.14 west longitude. All her boat accounted The names of the Hiirvlvors sent here by fort eontoinlng about 75 souls saved, crew and passenEers included. Nearly ail savpti women nnu entinren. jcyiana itner taiirorman remained and search ing exact position of disaster." It is reported that Vincent Astor is to charter a sreamer here to seek for his Tut her. were Col. John Jacob Astor, Ibidor. St rails, Major Archibald V Dutt, aid to Presi dent Tuft, (leorge I). Wldener of Phila- eiphia, Col nnd Mrs Washington Hoeb- iug, William T. Stead, the London editor", ranris D.Millet, the American nrti-t, and many, many more who were known on both sides of the Atlantic, Itnport persisted yesterday that President Charles M. Hays of the (irand Trunk Itallroai! and .laciies Kutrelle, the authiii, were both amoiiK the saved, but the White Star olllces did not con firm them, tho Olympio include n small number o.' men who were able to lind a place witli the women and children In tbn all too fw ' boats Such good news as there is places j among the living Henry Sleeper Harper I of the publishing flrruof Hat per ,1 Co., and Mrs. Harper; Dr. and Mm. Henry I Trauenthal and Mr. and Mth. T. t! Kronen-1 thai, Mrs. John Jacob Astor, with horl maid, is on the Carpathia, which is hurry ing the survivors to this port and which should arrive horn to-morrow night. Among the others rescued am J. Hrueo the managing director of the , White Star Une; J l, Thayer and his family, Mrs, Oeorgo I). Widener, Sir that filtered through stormy airs early yesterday morning that there wiro MM survivors on thn Carpathia was modified lateryesterday to "about R00," hut whether one message allowed for the boat crewa and thn other did not was not made clear and It may even be that the 800 include the boat crews from the Titanic and leavea 1,900 lost, and with the highest of both 1,500. Rut no comparison can lessen the dreadful story of broken families, of partings sadder than the imagination can grasp, of weak and suffering women wrenched cruelly from dear ones whose death was a matter of hours. Perhaps it was easier to die than to live in that short the number of passengers rescuer) at UTS, I space of time while the Titanlo staggered Tuesday morning to reoito the "f the living, continued the work of ilaying th Carpathia's ' , and the successive bulletins i in White Star office kept many s i " c man or woman watting all cv nr.fj .ont others away thanking God. - - not much doubt that the Ilsta t JlihiLdi elsewhere of arat and second Up i Vf.', - Ct h' I . (lordou and Ijidv Cimim DulT. Mrs. Halifax to go to the scene of the disaster i JaaiHwl Kutrelle. Mrs. Charles M Hays, and to remain there for further orders to Mw nry , Harr,8 nnd Mr(, Wash search for the bodies of any of the pas- I nftfm Dodg nf 8an FrtlK,,gC0i The ngers who Ict their lives. . flf fc f h- No Hope for Aster, straas, straA. i women and children to the boats and It Is practically a certainty now that , m ,h, t ths,r fate Nlmwn Iv. Grand Ccnlrtl itllly 7.15 r. MM " 1 riimi, PsriiruiM UU Brotdwsy. 'rams uio Usd. Tho Or.t meuags from tlw Olympic us first reported, There is no absolute certainty here a to how many souls were on thn Titanic The first estimate of the line here wa 2, ISO, the Iondon offloe's estimate 2,885 and an estimate here yes. terday was J.lin, mad up of 125 first cabin, 211 seoond cabin, 710 steerage and A90 crew. With the lowest total and the highest list of saved there would be MAIlLAJID'a VAN n. LA CIOCOLATE Hit lleli stvitr llltlly' tu awn. Dl crlmissiisi biniMlv gttiti It, At. In her shroud of fog, Tltaatn Warnen the Par She Straek, Her veteran captain, E. J. Smith, knew the peril that lay ahead of him along the westerly track of steamships. Other navigators had found and avoided those pallid shspet In a smother of fog thst remain th unconquerable enemies of ships. Only a fsw hours before the I Na MOCK OEKTiriCATBS P.atTSvei sadprlateiey CecUw, Uscy Co-1 Vm. s7saa luts. EnssiUkc lui,-x j Titanio shattered her tremendous bulk the Hamburg-American liner Amerlka had notified her by wireless tht there were two Urge Icebergs a little east and south of the placo where tho White Star colossus was finally in collision. That was on Sunday and very shortly after receiving th news the Titanic herself relayed it to land. And then there seems little reason to doubt, the Titanic plunged onward and 'hurled herf elf against those very bergs, Vlrclr tlarren nf Jfarratlre. A shadowy hint of what followed then has come from that area of waters tht are ruled by fog and frost The wireless, modem miracle as It is. could not achieve tho Impossible and snatch toward the Titanio in time to save her people the greyhounds that wero hundreds of mites away It has not recounted at all the epsid'oes of the terrible four hours while the great ship struck from happiness and peace, to horror and despair lay holpless among the groaning bergs. The story of the wireless has been maddening snatches, bulletins which skimmed thu top of surmise, a few figures, some con jectures and finally an ugly picture of a sea strewn with wreckage. But between the flashes of the Marconigrams and with the stories of the captains who came too lato something of the tragedy of the Titanio can be written. Tho wireless has told of the' bitter cold in air and sea, the accompaniment of the ico packs that tear loose from Arctic glaciers and sag southward with the cur rents. Hut no warning chill served to deflect the ship from her course. She strove, aheiri as destiny pointed her, and no Invention of man or Interference of Providence swerved her from a fatal course, Her ears, the submerged tele phones placed on either side of the vessel just below the water line to tattle of the i Continued on Second Pagt, Genuine crviul nthhle ev? uliiiet. Ih rnnl kind that never mill, at Sprncit'i, 7 Maiden Lane. The Titanic was warned on Sunday a few hours before she struck that there were two large Icebergs in her path and she sent the news ashore as she pro ceeded. The local Hydrographlc Offioe, in Broad street received yesterday the tee report of the Hamburg-American liner Amerika, which sailed hence on Thurs day for Plymouth. She passed on ths afternoon of Sunday in latitude 41 de grees 27 minutes, longitude 60 degrcta t minutes, two Urge icebergs. Shortly afterward she got in wireless touch with the Titanio and, as the hydrographio expert puts it, "reported by radiotele graph" that she had passed the bergs and where they were. The Tltanio's commander, anxious to let his fellow navigators know of the danger lurking in their course, transmit ted the news about the two big bergs to Cape Race.whlch relayed it to Washington. Washington sent it to the office here yesterday morning for the benefit of Atlantio navigators. It appeared on the bulletin directly under the announce ment of tho daily memorandum of the office: Collision with ioebarg April 14 lati tude 41 degrees 4S minutes, longitude SI degrees 14 minutes, the British stfjmsr Titanic collided with an iceberg, seriously damaging her bow; extent not definitely known." This was written on Monday afternoon. Lieut. John Grady, the hydrographer in charge of the Broad street office, looksd at the one date and 'the two positions and formed soma conclusions. It was ap parent to him that the Titanio probably had shattered herself against one of ths bergs that her commander had taken the trouble to send out warning of. The position of the Titanic when she received the news of the big bergs and they must have been monsters, as the conservative skipper of the Amerika, Capt. Knuth.ia not in the habit of saying things are "large" unless he means It was probably many miles east of the position in which the Amerika passed ths ice which waa doubtless to the north of her. How long the Titanio may have run after she. got the warning from tho Amerika cannot be guessed, for the Amerika does not give the hour, but it is reasonably certain that Capt. Smith knew that ths bergs were in his course. Yet apparently tfce