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Princeton Goes Determinedly at Task of Bolstering Up Football TeUmRain Has-No Terrors for Other Elevens
THE SUN, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15, 1919.
CHOICE OF QUARTER
PUZZLES YALE MEN
flituntton of Having Many
ricld Generals Is Npt Jfpw
! One at Now Haven.
Eddie Mahan Comes to
Harvard to Aid Coaches
Famous Crimson Halfback Seps Scrubs Defeat Patched
Up Varsity, 2 Touchdowns to 1 Hard Work
, on Tap Before Game With Brown.
LEONARD TO FIGHT
DUNDEE FOR TITLE
Lightweight Champion Will
Stnlco Laurels imJ5 Hounds
to a Decision.
FIGHT ON HERRMANN
RESUMED BY BAKER
Stnrts Now Crusade to Homoyo
Cincinnati Head From
I;A HOOHE MUST FIGHT
Bhivericlc ami Shu'liing Paved
, Teams. Saturday With Field
Goals iii Pincli,
1 Tale this fall Is confronted by a
Proposition that la od. n EH football
th,at of being unable to decide upon a
.Varsity quarterback.. This season finds
,Chet La Roche, Kenjplon, Chick Navlllp
ond others taking a filing at the post,
ti nd Dr. Sharps Is In a quandary as to
whom he wl)l plioose for tha position
In tho big games. In fact Dr. Sharpe
Is contused about his entire backfleld,
but ho Is even rnore undecided about
the position of. quarterback.
It may be that one of the candidates
fill play through all the practice games
only to be replaced by another In the
tlts with Princeton and Harvard, as
lias been the cade many times before.
Eastern fans well remember Cbet, La
Heche's sudden Injection Into the Plue
lineup for the ljlg games In 1916 Yale's
last varsity team before this Beason.
La Roche acquitted himself with 41s
tlpctlon In those frays desplto his new
ness to the Job In title combat, and his
work was expected to give him an edge
for the position this fall. Other can
didates have forcod the- Boston boy to
the limit, however, and ho will havo to
fight hard for ia place It he gets It
i Tries Mnnr Backs
After trying out more than a score
tf backs during the week preceding the
3?orth Carpllpa game Dr. Sharpe, gave
(early all of them a 'chance against
he Tar Heals and uncqvered quite ..a
formidable scoring combination. He has
pinde no announcement, however, as to
definite selections for the varsity back
fleld, nor has he named the players who
will start against Boston College Sat
urday. Boston College Is certain to give the
31ue a hard rub, but the team Is primed
for It and ought to emerge with credit.
.Vale will strive to better Harvard's
17 to 0 score against the Hub collegians.
Late In the last period of the Caro-
?Ina game eleven Tale substitutes gave
he spectators further proof that foot
ball players are no walking encyclopaedia
pf rules of tho game when they allowed
Carolina, unmolested; to recover an on
aide kick behind the goal line for a
touchdown. It might be well for Dr.
Sharpe to let the Blue players come In
for a little skull practice, since It was
dust this same sort of break on the
jiart of Princeton men that sent Yale
pn Its winning way In 1916.
Against Harvard ox Princeton a dis
play like that of last Saturday might
easily, and most likely would, be fraught
with disaster for the New Haven
Field fionln Feature.
That accurate kicking Is no small fac
tor In the Buccess of n football team
was proved again last Saturday In many
Instances the nvfjt notable p( which
were the kicks of Shlverlck of Cornell
ngalnst Wll'lams and of Strublng of
Princeton against Lafayette. These two
Hcks saved at least something for Cor
nell nnd Princeton out of a day that
otherwise would have contained nothing
' Of tho two goals, Shlverlck's was the
rnore difficult, since the Big IUd team
fxet Williams on a wa"ter soaked fleld
end the ball was covered with rain and
rn- 1 Shlverlck's goal may be likened
t that of Charlie Brlckley against
Princeton, November 8, 1913, which, to
this day, Brlckley contends Is the most
flllllcult one he ever kicked, although the
Clstance was only twenty yards.
The game was played nt Princeton on
n. field covered with mud, and both
teams slid helplessly when they tried to
run with the ball. The Tiger defence
stiffened the few times Harvard was
hblo to penetrate deeply Into Princeton
territory, and Brlckley; the mainstay of
the Crimson, was called upon to pull his
earn out of the hole. He took a mud
covered ball on' the Tiger 20 yard line
for a try at the goal. He drove his mud
clotted shoe Info the leather, and the,
Jieavy ball sailed weakly Into the air
straight and true, however, to the
Princeton goal, and Harvard had added
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fnS. " erldlronshowedup well, as did Erwln. while Ack-
ShtrerlckN Tnk Dlfllentt.
Bhlverick'a task' probably was a little
tnore difficult, since his goal was kicked
from tha 30 vard line, althniifrh Ihn turf
flt Bchelkopf Field last Saturday was'
pettor than that at Princeton In 1913. 1
Coal hard to get Is borne out by the fact
)hat so certain a booter as Shlverlck
was forced to try five times before he
got the ball over the bar.
In, the Princeton-Lafayette game
Siger hearts had been kept In Tiger
troats all afternoon by the reckless
jbsndon with which theennsylvanlans
tcyed with the Princeton team. Prince
ton had evened the score at six points
fn the second period and had begun her
third rush Into Lafayette territory late,
Jn the'fnlrd period, only to be halted by
fi stiffening of the Lafayette defence on
the 15 yard line.
At this point Strublng. who. bv tho
ray, Is getting to be rather a big man
t Princeton these days, dropped back to
the 25 yard line and drove the ball ovor
lor me noints mat clva Prfnp.tnn n i
to t victory,
Other notable' field goals Saturday,
which, however, did not constitute the
margin of victory, were the drives of
Conover of Penn State against Bucknell,
of Boote there may be something n a
name? of Wesleyan against Rhode Isl
and and of Zlnk of Amherst against
TRINITY DRILLS FOR AMHERST.
Special Detpatch to Tni Sen.
Hartford, Conn., Oct. 14. Trinity
football men started to-day to work for
the game with Amherst here Saturday.
S'o radical changes in the lineup are ex
pected, nlthough Bruce may be uumI at
fullback in place of Nazzont Nordlund
was Injured .Saturday nnri mnv h.u
herst contest Th. Athnn ..7."
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.uouji ucnvi.cn t-uuer ana Tan-
HAriVAllD ATHLETIC BODY.
. Cambridge, Mass., Oct. 14. The Har
vard Corporation appointed to-day the
following as members of the athlctlo
fc-mmlttcei Undergraduate members
Wliuam Murray, football captain; Rob -
ert Emmons, basebill captain, and Nor-
man Walker, hockoy captain. Faculty
members Dean La Baron R. Br'ggs, Dr.
Irving Ie and Acting Dean Chester N.
Grernough. Graduate members B.nja
mln Lorlng Young, Henry Pennypacker
I end Lawrence Curtis 20.
Special Despatch fa Tni &P. ,
Cambridge, Mass., Oct 14. After two
days' rest nnd a long blackboard tallf
following the coaches', analysis of the
faults shown tn last week's game wltlj
Colby, tho Harvard football players
jumped to-day ny, .the thick of what
Kill bp pne pf tha hardest week's wor
of the season.
First, Fisher took tho varsity, drilled
It In some new plays, and the position
coaches spent, a lot of time with their
chargea Then the scrubs were hustleij
Into the stadium nnd there was Bome
real football for three-quarters of an
The varsity lineup was changed l
little, and tho team dd not play with
a( great deal of dash. The regulars
scored one touchdown against the scrubs
but only because of getting the ball ofter
a muffed kick close to ttiq second team's
Another time with a score In sight
Havemeyer passed badly for a run from
kick formation and SO yards were lost.
The substitutes, however, managed 19
get two touchdowns. One was made at
TIGERS HAVE LONG '
WORKOUT IN RAIN
Herring, Former All-America
Tacklo, Joins Trinccton
Coaching Staff. .
Special Despatch to Tap Sen.
Princeton, N. J., Oct 14. In spite of
a driving rain that made accurate hand,
ling of the ball practically Impossible
Bill Roper drilled his Princeton football
squad here this afternoon for three long
hours. The practice was held on Unlver.
fflty Field, as the rains of yesterday and
to-day had' turned tho (stadium Into a
The greater part of the afternoon was
devoted to strengthening the defensive
power of the eleyen. Several new com
binations were tried out In the varsity
line. Keck was back at his old place at
tacklo, replacing Parlsette, who enjoyed
a day's rest. Baker was tried out at
guard and Thomas had his hand at the
centre position again. Bigler and Mac
phee were at the ends during part of
Roper first pitted the varsity and
second varsity against each other In
charging practice. One man was used
In the backfleld and the linemen were
drilled In opening holes and tackling.
After ,thls the strong freshman eleven
received the ball on the varsity's 10
yard line. Using straight line plays,
with an occasional forward pass, the
yearling eleven carried tho ball over the
goal line several t fines. During this
defensive work, Strublng, .Murrey, Wll
mer and Garrity worked as the backfleld
The backs also were drilled In Dunt-
I Ing. and Strublng, Trimble, Murrey and
y inner ineu several long rorward
passes, but had little success with the
wet soggy ball.
"Hef" Herring. All-America tackle on
the 1904 and the 1905 elevens, joined
the coaching staff to-day and aided Hal
Balltn with the linemen.
ORANGE DRILLS FOR PITT.
Syracuse Varsity Stages Two Honr
Scrlmmaec With Freshmen.
Special Despatch to Tax ScN.
Stracuse, Oct. 14. To strengthen the
offense of the Syracuse eleven ror the
game with Plttsburir next K.iturrtav
"BucV O'Neill drove the varsity players
ror two hours In the bowl this afternoon.
During the entire time tho big team had
possession of the ball against tho strong
freshmen team, and the varsity was
made to march up and down the fleld all
The freshmen furnished good opposi
tion, and the coaches had plenty of
chances to point out the weaknesses of
the varsity as the fresh linemen fre
quently broke through and smeared
nln va Va .-. 1n ... T.IIa.
ley's work was worth mentioning. Just
before the last scrimmage Fallon
wrenched his ankle and may be out of
To-nlEht a signal and blackboard drill
was held In the gymnasium, with O'Neill
Pointing out the plays that are to be
used against Pittsburg. A mass meeting
which was attended by 2,000 students
was held after the drill.
RUTGERS LOSES CAPTAIN.
Kelly. Out of On me All During;
Beason, Enters Yale.
New Brunswick, N. J Oct 14.
Frank Kelly, captain of the Rutgers
football team, who has been out of the
game all this season, has been definitely
lost to the team. He will enter Yale
French, the great halfback, will not
ne back until the Syracuse game In New
York, November 4. There will be no
Bame tnlfl week' but Ruteers will play
th J,ew Tork Asglcs here the followinjr
YALE NINE LOSES.
All-Lemfrnera Trim nine, O
In Ilalny Day Game.
Special Detpatch to Thi Son,
Nkw Haven, Conn., Oct. 14. George
Welss's barnstorming All-Leaguers de
feated the Yale baseball team, 6 to 1,
here to-day. Wretched fielding on the
part of the Ells, coupled with hard hit
ting by the AU-Stars, including a double
by Joe Wood, accounted for three runs
I nthe th'rd inning. Coxe was the most
effective, Yale twlrler. The game waj
called at tho end of (he seventh Inning
on account of rain. Fewer than fifty
people wunessea me game.
All fitsr 1
0 3 10 1 0
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i fjoxi, uvoier ana reien.
DTJBH WICKS VS. BHII'BTJILDEni.
On Sunday afternoon at Dexter Park.
near the Cypress Hills elevated station,
the Bushwlcks will clash with tha
Morse Shipyard team In the first game
at 2 F.,M. McGarry or Martin will be
Ion the7 firing line for Morse, fipeers.
"will twirl fAr th Bushwlcks. In the
final game the Downey Shipyard team,
which defeated the Bushwlcks a few
week ago, will bo the home team's
opponent itolborrow, who Ditched such
great ball for the Downsya, will be
opposed cy Marine wiuuuni for the
the end of .a series of )lne plays When
Arnold Horwcen went through for a
core from the 20 yard line, and Nelson
scored the other on a 65 yard run after
Intercepting a forward pass. This la
getting to be a specialty for Nelson
Many coaches were on the Held, Eddie
Mahan, who paptatned the 1015 eleven,
taking a hind, as did Tacks Hardwlck,
with Trumbull, In trying to keep the
varsity on Its toes.
Keith Kane, who has been out of the
game a week, was back at left tackle,
and tt)U afternoon Fisher put Desmond
over on the left end, switching Ryan
Iri the backfleld Humphrey, who has
been second substitute quarter, was used
at left half, apd Hamilton was tried
back In II, Jlorwoen's place for a time.
Phllbln was not ready to play centre,
but Caswell, who started as first string
mat) this year, was used In the middle of
the line, ' as also was Olmstead, who
heretofore h&s been playing guard.
Captain Murray, who ran through sig
nals with the varsity, did not get Into
YALE ELEVEN GETS
OPEN PLAY DRILL
Bine Fears Boston Game May
Ifingo on Field Goal, and
Twins Braden to Kick.
Nkw Haven, Conn., Oct. 14. Dr.
Sharpe spent to-day working up Yale's
Open field play. Drop kicking and for
ward passing made up the whole after
noon's workout, which was considered
very successful In view of the adverse
weather conditions, rain falling through
out the practice.
Dr. Sharpe looks for a very keen
came with Boston College next Satur
day, for to-day he told the squad that
It would not be at all Improbable for
the result of the contest to hinge upon a
Paid goal. He therefore called for drop
kicking to develop Braden's ability, tq
Instruct the varsity In protecting a
kicker and to block opponents' attempts.
Accordingly, Braden went on the sec
ond' team and tried threo from the 25
yard line, registering one while the
other two were blocked by Walker and
Relnhsrdt Later In the practice, when
Braden went on the varsity to test Its
ability to protect him, he succeeded In
gsttlng two goals out of eight attempts.
Threo were blocked and three were low.
When the varsity went on-the offence
Ktmpton tried a 20 yard forward pass
after three downs had failed to get ten
yards, but It was not completed. Later
the varsity took the bnll on the 20 yard
line. Kempton went eight yards around
right end qn the second play and French
followed with a first down through
centre. The 'scrubs' defence, which was
noticeably strong during the practice,
stiffened at this point and line plunges
availing nothing, the varsity" had to try
f toward passes again and lost the ball.
The varsity was kept on the defence
throughout the rest of the scrimmage.
Later the first colltiro team was lined
nr. nnm( Hi,. r3ltv nnri Innlr tha hnll .
on the 40 yard line. After It had regis-
tered a first down forward passing was
tried, but the flrst attempt was Inter
cepted by French. This scrimmage was
featured by Kempton, who on a subse
quent Bcrub attempt to pass ran sixty
yards for a touchdown after Intercepting
The varsity defence dame to the front
when the scrubs were given onq down to
carry the ball over the line from the 1
yard mark, but Instead of registering
were thrown for a loss.
Hubbard was tried out at Tight guard
to-day and Chick Neville, freshman
quarterback of two seasons ago, took
La Roche's place at quarter. Tbs other
change was Dickens for Hamlll at left
The varsity played with the following
makeup: Retnhardt, left end: Dickens,
left tackle; Trippe, left guard; Calla
han, centre; Hubbard, right guard;
Walker, right tackle; Allen, right end;
Neville, quarterback; Kempton, left
halfback ; D. Welles, right halfback, and
DARTMOUTH HAS LIGHT DRILL.
Easy SorlmmaKe Is Followed by
Special Detpatch to Tut Sex,
HANOVin. N. II: Oct 14. A llcht
scrimmage followed by signal drill and
special attention to Individual faults
made up to-day's practice for the Green
varsity. Owing to the fact that Dart
mouth has been outpunted In its early
season contests Spear Is placing par
ticular emphasis on the kicking depart
ment with Robertson and Eckberg
bearing the brunt of the work.
Robertson has completely recovered
from his Injuries and will be ready 1o
start in Saturday's game with penn
State. Merrltt who reported for prac
tice for the flrst time last week, appears
to be the logical man to fill Myers's
place at end.
BROWN BEATS SCRUBS.
Workout la Hampered by
Bull and Muddy Field.
Special Detpatch to Tax Sun.
PaoviDiNcx, R. I., Oct 14. A long
scrimmage was held this afternoon by
the Brown football candidates, and the
varsity scored twice on the scrubs by
the use of straight football. Coulter
and Fox were used at quarterback, the
former showing up better than he has
previously this year. Shubert and
Moody also played ejrcellent games.
As Bnurtiertwas not able to get to
the field because of a class. Brace played
centre. Sinclair took left tackle and
Gullan substituted for Johnstone, at
right tackle, while 'Emery played right
halfback In place of Jcmall, A wet ball
and a muddy fleld hampered the after-
8T. PAUL EVENS SERIES.
Defeats Vernoa liy D to O In Sixth
Game( of Minor Brent.
Los AKortis, Cal., Oct 14. St Paul
to-day evened up the series with Vernon
for the Western minor league champion
ship, winning the sixth game, B to 0.
Dick NIehaus pitched an even game
throughout , Three hurlers, Flnneran.
Ross and Fromme, were used by the,
Tigers against the visitors. Vernon filled
tho bases in the sixth Inning with two
hits and an error, but failed to score.
The score I
t Pul 0 10 10 0 10 x 4 I 1
Batterlea Flnneran, Iloii,, Froinra Vnd
Brooks; Nitnaus and Margrave.
Tom Thorp Has Bono Much
With Bluo anl White's
Splashing around on a watery fleld
the'Coumbla varsity football squad had
n long, hard drill yesterday. Fred Daw
son determined to put tho team through
the usual workout In splto of bad
weather conditions, and the result was
that the eleven had another of those
drills with a wet nnd slippery hall on an
equally wot and slippery fleld.
With few exceptions the entire squad
was op the fleld, and there was hard
work for everybody. Frank Cananerv.
captain, was one of thope excused. Tho
snouiaer which he Injured several weeks
ago did pot give way In tho battle 'With
Vermont last week, but It la not getting
well any too quickly, and Dawson wlji
rest his captain just as much as possible,
although he Is determined to start him
In the gameVith Williams on Baturday.
Jack Kcnpedy and Sam Wolnstoln, ends,
who carriea no smnu pari or the Duraen
of holding Vermont back last week, also
Thornton, too, had a layoff. Tho
Charley horse, which kept him out of
many practice sessions before the Ver
mont game has not been entirely eradi
cated, and Dawson believes In taklne no
chances with him. 1
Ivxperlments with tho makeup of the
forward line arc llkelyto continue for
some time, although It 'is probable that
Scovll, who relieved Devlne In tho Ver
mont game, will start at right tackle
against Williams. Devlno Is ono of the
biggest and huskiest men on the squad,
but he 1b green and needs more practice
before he will be able to meusure up to
the other men In the forward division.
Scovll, on the other hand, played an
almost flawless game In the short time
he appeared against Vermont.
Although TJawson expects that Will
iams will rely largely on'an aerial attack
Baturday he put the varsity through a
long session agalnBt the'second eleven. In
which straight old fashioned line bucks
were the prevailing plays. Tho varsity
lino seemed to be better than at any
other time this season. It has responded
quickly to the coaching of Tom Thorp,
the old tune Blue and White forward,
who lns'sts on a low charging forward
line. The tendency to play high, which
has cropped out from time to time, has
begun to disappear. x
N. Y. U. HAS DRILL ON
RAIN SOAKED FIELD
Old Violet Stars Return to
Help -Coach Eleven.
New York University's football team
was not deterred by the downpour yes
terday nfternoon and held Its regular
Iir-rtlc wBslon on Ohio Field. Th mln
1 aaked athletes swished around In tho
mud with unceasing ambition under the
tutelage of several old Violet stars, who
have returned to University Heights to
aid the coaching staff the rest of tho
Hal Flnley, Pete Sokololner, Bill
Gardner nnd Bib Wiener nre tho old
timers who "put on their togs yesterday
afternoon. All are linemen, who made
reputations as such at tho Violet college
and are on hand to build up the line,
which at present Is the cause of the
The presence vof Archie Brlnn In the
lineup at centro pointed to a considerably
Improved first line of attack bv the time
the Violet meets Wesleyan next Satur-
day. Brlnn was one of tha sensations
Of the 1916 flenfinn hprnnut nf tita for.
rlfic attacking ability In spite of his
diminutive size. He has been endeavor
ing to get back to school for several
weeks and jiow Is registered and In at
tendance at the Heights.
The flrst part of the miserable after
noon was spent In forward pass work.
Both contests In which' the Violet eleven
has participated this fall have been
played under adverse conditions and
Coach Longwell desires to prevent bad
weather from cutting down the use of
the airline attack.
After Howard Cann, captiln. had tried
a few goals from placement the whol
squad repaired to the gymnasium for a
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ATTACK OF SCRUBS
Big Red Eleven Shows Im
proved Defensive Play.
Special Detpatch to-Tat Sex.'
Ithaca, N. Y.. Oct 14. A sharp de
fensive scrimmage In which the Cornell
regulars smeared most of the specially
prepared formations hurled at them by
the scrubs, was tho feature of to-day's
drill. O'Brien of the scrubs got away
for a single touchdown on the varsity.
In two days hard work the coaches have
made much progress and Improved de
The varsity offensive was lacking two
of Its principal figures to-day, Shlverlck
and Mayer, university -work keeping
wow mo i.tjiu unm rainer late. Has
brouck played quarter. He made a good
Impression In tho short time he tllnvArl
against Williams and also worked weir
Shuler called signals from fullback
task which he handled well, and It 's
surmised that be may direct the team
from time to time to permit Shlverlck
freer rein as an offensive bavl(a as
Shlverlck Is the. best ground gainer ot
the team. Two line changes were no
ticed, 'Strauss playing right guard au.l
Horclt centre. It would not be surpris
ing If they were" to bo In the lineup
nexi saturaay against Colgate.
ARMY HAS HARD DAY.
Daly Drills Men for Saturday's
Bout With Mnlne.
Special Detpatch to Tut Sex.
west Point, Oct. 14. The whole
Army squad was worked hard to-dav
" preparation lor oaturaays game with
Halne. T-he men came out of the hard
Syracuse battle In fair shape aside from
some bruises. Blalk was not In the
drill to-day, nor was Greene or Mc-
Quarrle. These men are resting, but
will resume heavy work to-morrow,
The coaches were not very well sat
isfied with the team's showing gainst
Syracuse, and the whole squad Is due
for a strenuous week. To-day McDa-
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vtu, a uoi anu . ueuci were inuveu over
from the Cullum Hall squad to the reg-
ulars, and all three worked with the
big team In McQuarrte'a place, Post
looks moBt promising and may get a
regular berth behind the line It he keeps
up his good work.
Travis was back In togs to-day, and
for the first time )n four weeks he
played for a brief spell at tackle, as1
did Daniel, who Is expected to land a
regular Job In the front line. White
and Tormey, the latter a tackle, also
were tn to-day's scrimmage. Both have
been on the Injured list for a fortnight.
White plays end. H came here from
the University ot Maine, where he
played tn 1518. V.
Br CIIAIII.ES F. S1ATIIIHON.
Johnny Dundee, onei of the, leading
contenders for tho title held by Benny
Leonard, Is about to realise his ambition
to meet the champion In a title bout to
a decision. Tho date announced yester
day for tho contest Is October 37, the
length of tho bout fifteen rounds and
tho scene will be the State Armory at
Hartford. Conn., which Is larger than
Madison Square Garden.
Mils will be the first time Leonard
wll meet an opponent In a long bout to
a decision since he captured tho honors
from Freddie Welsh In a ten round de
clslonless bout In this cty. Leonard and
Pundeo have met seven times In de
clslonless bouts and tho question of su
periority has nover been settled. Dun
dee had a shado over tho champion In'
their last encounter In Jersey, and has
felt that If he could got a long bout
With iconard, In which the referee was
authorized to give a decision on points,
he would acquire the title.
Dundee has been travelling at a fast
gait In his recent contests and there Is
small doubt that the Impending contest
will draw tha biggest crowd that yet has
seen a lightweight bout In this part of
Toledo Also Seeks Dnnl,
Toledo also is In quest of a battle for
the lightweight title. A. Q. Thatcher,
president of tho Toledo Athletlo Club,
who took a prominent part In the Wll-
lara-jjcmpsey match, seeks to Interest
Lew Tendler In a proposition to meet
Leonard In the Swamp City In a fifteen
round bout to a decision In November
Leonard already lias offered to meet
Tendler In a fifteen round contest to a
referee's decision, but the Quaker, al
though Issuing fiery challenges to the
champion, pulled In his horns as soon as
Leonard announced his willingness to
battle to a decision for the title.
Toledo also has a building that wjll
hold more people than Madison Square
Garden. This Is the Terminal Building,
and Thatcher believes that a bout be
tween Leonard and Tendler would draw
Tho difficulty that Thatcher will en
counter wlU bo the unwillingness of
Tendler to tako a chance with Leonard
In a long bout.
Tho victory of Dundee, a 130 pound
man, over Young Kloby, the welter
weight champion of New England, gives
an Insight Into the qualifications of the
title holders of that motion ot tho coun
try. Kloby recently knocked out Eddie
Shevlln, who was the preceding holder
of the welter title, and the vletor at
once was heralded as one of the greatest
boxe,rs since Paddy Duffy held the cham
pionship ot that class.
Wilde to Box Here.
Tex Rlckard, matchmaker of the
International Sporting Club of this city,
has the signature of Jimmy Wilde to
box a suitable opponent before that
club on February 3, and not to engage
In any other set bouts east of Chicago
before that date. Wilde, who will Hall
for this country on October IS, will
doubtless do some exhibition work In
the interim while visiting the points of
Interest In America.
Billy Mlske. who shaped up as one of
the best looking heavyweights In the
country, has iti'.'m on evil days. He
now is tn the hospital suffering from a
BDlnal complaint and will not be In con
dition to box a'caln for six months. It
Joe ChoynskI recently asserted that
In pugilism there are only seven punches
that can be used. In the bouts between
Jim Corbett and ChoynskI the former
Used nearly 777 punches, but singularly
enough when ChoynskI faced Joe Wal-
cott the Demon used only one punch.
I'ollnk Loses Another.
On complaint of Harry Pollok, former
manager of Freddie Welsh, who was
lightweight champion till he met Benny
Leonard, Capt. Welsh yesterday was be
fore Mag'strate Brough In the West
Side Court on a charge of biting off a
portion of Pollok's right ear. The Cap
tain, wearing the uniform of his rank,
was held In Jl.OM ball. Pollok Is In the
Polyclinic Hospital having his mutilated
ear attended to. The d epute between
the men was staged In a restaurant at
Fiftieth street and Broadway, and Welsh
knocked Pollok down. Welsh declared
that Pollok fell on a bottle and cut his
ear. Pollok still Is In tho maiden class
as a fighter,
EXONERATE BOXING CLUB.
nnjonnr OrK'iiilintlon Not .Culpa
lile in the Siurtln Case.
I Trenton, N. J., Oct 14. At a hearing
held to-day by the New Jersey Athletic
Commission In the State House to Inves
tigate the death of Al Martin, the New
York boxer who died on October 7 after
a match with Ray Doyle, also of New
York, at Bayonne, testimony was In
troduced to show that the Bayonne club
had compiled with the laws and regula
tions of the commission In the bout
The witnesses showed that Martin
was examined before he went Into the
ring, was found tn a fit condition, and
again nns examined later In the bout.
The fight before the commission caused
by the Troxler Institute of Newark,
which wanted to have the lease to the
building occupied by the Park Athletic
Club approved by the commission, was
ended to-day when the application was
The commission Issued a notice that
all clubs falling to abide by the rules
and regulations of the commission would
have their licenses revoked.
ency to fumble they did In Pittsburg.
nocigerB is Buuenng irom a sugnt cold,
with symptoms of pneumonia.
WILLIAMS RUNS SIGNALS.
Varsity 11ns Mht Afternoon
Scrulu Scrlinmune Freshmen.
Special Dispatch to Tns bgn,
Wiluamstown, Mass., Oct 14, -Williams
football practice wu devoted to
day chiefly to fundamertals. Brooks
eliminated scrimmage for the varsity.
uui put nis cnarges tnrougn a long anil
In covering kloks. In breaking through
the line and In signals. Boynton, cap
tain, and Carlck, the team's cripples,
both got a rest.
While the varsity went through a
spirited signal drill the scrubs scrim
maged with the freshmen and were
pushed back for three touchdowns, The
shift of Qleser from tackle, to his old
place at guard seems to be permanent
Beebe, the husky lineman, Is Improving
every day and Is now forcing Gilliam for
a regular berth at guard.
HIGH LIGHTS AND SHADOWS
IN ALL SPHERES OF SPORT
Oopvripht, 1919, (v the Bun Printing and Publishing Aitooation.
EFFORTS to develop a challenger for Jacll Dempsey In this country
appear to have l)lt another snag. For several rrionhs wo, had been
regaled with stories regarding tho wonderful prowess of a boxer
from Staten Island named Al Roberts. Roberts, we were Informed, was
one of tho hardest hlers the class yet had developed. Ho had almost
stopped Charley Welnert and had knocked out so many men that evon Ills
manager had lost track of the count. On Monday nlgl)t, with seventeen
krjockputa in nineteen fiffhts to his predlt, Roberts orjco more faced Welnert,
but this time, tl)prp was a different tale to tell. Welnert played Roberts a
tlHStV tHMr Tin .. Inl. .1 U Tn.to.J f V.nlrir ,1 n 1,1..' DlnW nnd with-
out vigor, Welnert was trim, fast and
ana pasted the phenomenon from pillar to post until, In tho seventn rounu,
Roberts showed, the white feather and made for his corner durlfiB a fflslllads.
Roberts' had been doubled up by a body blow and Indicated nn Inclination to
Roberts showed nothing that would
the makings nf n prunt flirViior TTn
hand, but he boxes flat fppted, has no
iime norse cars, and has altogether a wrong notion of how to go about ngm
Ing. Welnert, being 100 per cent, tho better boxer and much the faster
man, had the easiest kind of a time whipping Roberts. If Welnert would
train for all his fights as he appeared to have trained for that with Roberta
he would earn for himself a far moro aggroBslve title than the Cabaret King.
Leonard at Last Will Havo to Fight
Benny Leonard and Johnny Dundeo aro to flnht fifteen rounds to a
decision for the lightweight championship at Hartford on October 27. While
we do not regard this as tho best match tho champion could havo made
for his flrst real defence of hs Jaurels, wo hppo that tho decision part of
the arrangement and tho facj that tho tltlo will bo at stake will force Leonard
to put up a fight really Indicative of his powers. Wo have held for a Jong
time trjat Leonard could, whip Putuleo with ease, und probably knock him
out, were he to let loose and let Dundee feel tho full force of his blows.
in all of thpso eight round fumadlddtes over In Jersey Leonard has not
fought his best He has been content to fight Just hard enough to save
Dundeo for future reference.
Leonard is much in demand but Is confronted with the dilemma of hav
ing only lltle opposition Ho. finds that in order to make his business a
nnanciai success ho must temper his blows to Ills opponents. IJe must re
tain their drawing powers for another nlcht. This makes for unhealthy
conditions in the sport
A Pollco Job for the National Commission.
In view of the many bits of scandal and the like which developed during
the world's series, would It not bo a good Idea for the National Commission
to assume pollco powers over the contesting players? It Is said that Walter
Ruether was so dismal a falluro In his secondary against the White Sox
because h,e hod Indulged rat!)er freely In old Kentucky Bourbon. Why not
put the players under a certain supervision which would preclude their
being tempted by John Barleycorn or any other malign Influence, be It
spirltous or human? It might be argued that this duty should be token
care of by the club manager, but It seems that the manager is not always
In full command of the ship. Sometimes the manager himself, working
under a big strain, Is unablo to drlvo the alcoholic devils away. We havo
seen sucU coses.
It seemed to us at Cincinnati and Chicago that tho players were en
tirely too close to the public. They should have been kept away from the
pests and the general excitement of hotel lobbies. Thoy should have been
housed In suburban hotels rather than in the noisy hostelrles In the midst
of the city. In that respect those who guide the football teams of the big
universities have the proper idea. And tho supervision might go further.
On the eve of a certain veteran pitcher's second try In tho series we saw
him eat his dinner. lie mixed his food with utter disregard for his stomjeh.
It might be argued that pitchers should know what to eat and what not
to eat. But take the case of Fred Toney of tho Giants during ono of the
critical scries In the West The thermometer flirted with tho 100 mark, yet
Toney fed up on fried liver and onions, and when he collapsed In the box
he was surprised!
Ijlplon Suggests Earliest Dnto Yet for America's Cap Races.
In spite ot tho fact that tho New York Yacht Club has made no definite
acceptance of the challenge for next year, Sir Thomas Upton has suggested
to the club that tho first race for the America's Cup be held on Juno" 26.
This dato Is far earlier than that on which any race tor the famous cup yet
has been held. 'September and October have been tho favoiito months for
tho yachting classic, but Sir Thomas evidently has a good reason for sug
gesting tho earlier date. Perhaps ho does n4t think that his latest Shamrock
would have as excellent a chance of winning In the equinox winds as it
would In the milder airs which blow In this section In June and early July.
Sir Thomas adds that it is possible that tho New York Yacht Club will
abandon the Sandy Hook course In favor of ono not so exposed probably on
Long Island Sound.
Llpton's suggestion opens anew the
u imperative lor me imow loric Yacht Club to make an early decision as to
its stand on tho subject. This no doubt will be announced at the annual
meeting of the club In December. That there will hn .in Amorira'. nn
in 1920 Is quite certain, but we doubt
accept the suggestion for June racing.
oenu jmo me coniesi, wnno America lms the Resolute, the Vanltlo and the
Defiance from which, to chooso its defender. A new series of elimination
races will bo In order and It hardly will bo possible to get a "reliable line on
tho three craft as early as the second half of June.
"Donned Their Moleskins" No Longer Is tho Truth.
Not many days ago It was stated In these columns that the football
players of a certain college had "donned their moleskins." Tills was not
exactlv true, hemnnn thpro nn lnni.f la nn,, r i ... . . . .
called moleskin. But It Is an old form
Ityi in lltnn w ,.q , V. I ., t .
. .. .i. i una u. umi iiiayer ueing pusnea over the line tor
a touchdown. However, pushing a man over the line became illegal some
-- - "-.,, n.u.uui.
sist in the old form which may be more
..-v...... juiiua ciuaseu me nno ror a score. It cannot be
denied that the old method and tho old description had more punch to It
In connection with tho affair touching on moleskins, B. A. Jessup the Cres
cent Athletlo Club veteran, writes us: "There, are no moleskins to bo had
either in New York or Brooklyn, as this form of cloth has disappeared from
------ .mo nuLu is me nappy possessor
of the only pair of moleskins In Greater New York, plus a canvas iacket
........ .. uuu, um luuiuiui uuys away uacK in the '80s when
the Crescent Athletic Club of Brooklyn then had their championship eleven
,,. o icuiciiiucira, was composea of uni
versity football stars to a great extent, viz., Harry Beecher. Yale: Billy
. , .cn,, ruoicr oanxoru, laio; Alex Moffat, Prince
ton; House" Janeway, Princeton; "Beef" Wheeler, Princeton; Phil King
Princeton; Dinny Edwards, Princeton; Alex. White, Harvurd, and other col-'
lege stars too numerous to mention. If you learn of any of the old tlmo
football moleskins in tho market you can get your own price for tha article."
Brown rearranged Us football schedule to make things easier, so It slated
J?at(L!lnd Hftrvard for eary dates. Now the Brown players are reciting
bl d S0 th0 LlBht BrBade." with emphasis on "some ono had
There Is a great ado because Lehigh defeated Rutgers In football. But
Lehigh was battling the big fellows to a standstill when Rutgers still thought
It a feat to win over Stevens. The ado accentuate) tho value of a great
NAVY ELEVEN HOLDS
LONG SIGNAL DRILL
Dobie Gives Team Easy Work
in View of Open Date.
Spicial Detpatch to Tax Son.
Annapolis, Md., Oct 14. Moat of the
afternoon practice at ino Naval Academ
was devoted to formation and signal
work, threo elevens being given a lengthy
drill on a wet Celd. Ddble took charge
of the regular eleven, using several dif
ferent combination's In the backfleld,
while Ingram, captain and halfback last
season, nnd Scaffe, a regular tackle on
the samo'team, had charge of the other
two. Though the backfleld has not yet
been picked, Clark, Alford, Rawllnga,
Koehler and Waters are making strong
The first eleven has an off day next
Saturday, but the date will probably be
filled by a game between the eleven of
the U. S. S. Utah, containing a halt dozen
former academy players, and the second
team oi me narsi Acaaemy, un No
vember i me taiier team win play the
Princeton second team In Annapolis.
An mffnrt la twtni mnilii t n arid h,,1f.,
ball to the sports In which the teams of
tne rtavai ana uio .miliary academies
compete. The Navy Department and
the Naval Academy officials are willing
to arrange for the playing of alternate
games In this branch at Annapolis and
West Point la finish the season, as In
football and baseball. The series will
tart .this year It the army authorities
powerful. So he went right at Roberts ,
warrant the assertion that ho lias
lina a fntrlv Rtrnnc nnncll 111 either
science, Is as slow as ono of ourNold j
America's Cup discussion and makes
if the New York Yacht Club will
Lipton has only his Shamrock to
and sometimes old forms persist From
, . , , .
trb.uu ii'i- mo ipgai siuo or it, por-
dramatic than the modern and more
PENN VARSITY GETS
Rainy Weather Keeps Team
Indoors, but Day Is Not Lost.
Special Detpatch to Tne Stx
rmLAUEiJ-iitA, Oct 14 Italn kept
the Penn varsity Indoors this afternoon
but Folwell took advantage of the lay
off by giving the longest blackboard
talk of tho season Scouts made their
reports on the Plttsburg-West Virginia
the Lafayette-Princeton and the Swarth
more-Pennsylvania Military Collego
Herb Dieter, the veteran Buffalo
guard, Is ready to take his place, nnd
will play ngainst Swarthmore Saturday
He figured In tho collision with Carl
Thomas last week, nnd the latter Is still
nursing his Injuries. Danny McNIchol
and Johnny Tltzcl, who were told to
rest up. have gained weight and will b
In togs to-morrow.
Joe Straus, the Texas, also Is back th
the ranks ready to give the halfback's a
battle. A stiff scrimmage Is outlined
for to-morrow, providing the fleld Is not
LiNroi,xs i.v nouiiLH hrader.
On Sunday nfternoon at Olympic Field
In Harlem, the Lincoln Giants will meet
Dick Rudolph's league stars In the
opening game. Rudolph Is a Bronx
man who has been pitching big league
ball for soveral years, nnd Is a mem
ber of tho Braves. In the final game
the Lincoln Giants will clash with the
Standard Shipyard team, last season's
pennant winner of the Shipyard League.
Frank Talcjtt, the Yale star, will be
on the firing line ir the shipworkers.
ny Fnnni'.iticic o. r,n;n,
Now that the world's scries Is over
baseball politics already Is nearlng tho
boiling point Usually It Is customary
for tho owners to watt until tho end
of the footbal sensonjjeforo they try to
get on tho sport Bcrcen, but this fall
there is Buch a feeling of bitterness be
tween the rival factions of baseball that
they are ready to spring nt one another
at a moment's notice.
The fact that major league baseball has
lust gone through nn. unprecedentodly
prosperous season lina augmented rather
than decreased this factional warfare.
Profits have been big and stakes are
high. Clubs aro Willing to fight harder
and spend money more freely to protect
what they regard their rights than oyer,
The present factional fight Is really a
continuation of the stormy quarrels' of
last winter when a strong effort was
made by a reform oloment to strip Ban
Johnson and August Herrmann ot their
power In baseball. 'When Herrmann
was kept at the head ot the National
Commission last wlntor through the aid
of Ban Johnson, It was merely a tern-,
porary victory. "
ilia winter perhaps the Issue is more
closely deflped, and the gulf which exists
between the two American League fac
tions Is far deeper now than It was a
year ago. There have been some bitter
feuds In baseball. Ono of the most bit
ter was the one between Charley Ebbeti
and Tonr Lynch, when t)io latter was
president of the Nattonnl League. Yet
this was tame beside the deen seated
antagonism Nvhlch now exists between
the Yankee owners and Ban Johnson.
New Fight on Herrmann.
The National League men who were
so anxious to unseat Garry Herrmann
as chairman ofXhe National Commission
a year ago nro even moro determined
to oust Herrmann this .winter. It has
been proved to them that under no cir
cumstances will Herrmann resign. Ef
forts were made to have Herrmann re
sign last winter, but Garry ncvcr'notlccd
When It became certain that Cincin
nati would be a contender In the 1919
world's series William Baker, president
of the Philadelphia club, called on Herr
mann to resign from the commission.
Baker Is a member of, tho National
League committee appointed to recom
mend a new chairman for the National
Col. Kuppert of the Yankees, who Is
on the American League commltteo to
report on a new chairman, nlso called on
Herrmann to resign, suggesting that
John Bruce, secretary of the commission,
act as chulcmnn during tho world's.
Berles. Herrmann Ignored both invita
tions. Baker has taken tho lead In a move
ment seeking tho prompt removal of
Herrmann and has lined up most of the
National League club owners In his fight
Ho also has tho sympathy and moral
support of John Heydlor, president of tho
In tho American League Ruppert has
taken the lead In the fight agnlnst Herr
mann, but he only has the backing nt
the Red Sox and White Sox. The other
clubs are sticking to Herrmann out of
loyalty to Ban Johnson. It is the sainf
anomaly of last winter, a bunch of
American Leaguers fighting to retain a
National Leaguer as chairman of the
ComUiej- n PlKliter.
The Yankee Colonels, Ruppert and
Huston ; Comlskey of tho White Sox
and Frazee of the Red Sox nlso have
pledged themselves to do all In their
power to get Ban Johnson out nnd
falling In that to at least curb his
Comlskey, the veteran 'White Sox
owner, was protty 111 during the world's
series, but he was about, and realllrmcd
his former remarks that the time has
come for Johnson to get out of base
ball. Comlskey Is a hard, relentless
fighter, and once before when he had
a historic fight with Ban Johnson, he
threatened to break up the league and
forced Johnson to sue for peace.
"Having all my money Invested In
baseball, I havo no desire to entrust
the welfare of my club to a man whose
baseball Investments run Into tho thou
sands," remarked Comlskey In Chicago
It must bo admitted that from the
present outlook there seems little chance
for the trlplo alliance of tha American
League to get Johnson out Though '
they represent the threo most powerful
and wealthiest clubs In the circuit they
are a minority, nnd the other clubs are
sticking pretty close to Johnson.
The vlndlctlveness revealed on the
other side of the fence has been evi
denced by the actions of Frank Navln.
president of tho Detroit club, In doing
all In his power to embiirrass and an
noy the Yankees. The tint Indication
of this came last September when he
protested the transfer of an unplayed
Boston amo to New York. Later ha
resigned from tho Joint committee ap
pointed to select a new chairman of tie
National Commission In an effort to
show that the committee had only comic
opera powers. Within tho last week ho
has held up tho world's series money of
the New York American players, pro
testing their right to get third place
money on the grounds that the gdmes
wpn by Carl Mays enabled them to finish
in this position.
If the fight grows hot enough. It would
not be surprising to see the Yankees,
Red Sox and White Sox bolt tho Ameri
can League and start n new league.
This possibility has been discussed by
both Yankee owners In fact, Huston
has gone so far as to siKgest that a
more compact league could ba built up
than the present American Lea rue cir
cuit. "Of course, we are not contemplating
uch a move unless It would bo forcod
upon us," said Huston. "Hut this Is a
fight without quarter, and there Is no
tolling wrier" It will end."
AMONG AMATEUR ATHLETES.
Entry blanks are being sent to all tho
clubs of the metropolitan district for the
athletlo meet to bo held under tho aus
pices of the 'Forty-seventh Infantry In
lie nrmory. Maray avenue and Heyward
diet, Hrooklyn, on Saturday night,
"ovember 1. "lie list of events open to
11 registered athletes la; 100 yard han
dicap, seventy-flve yard low hurdles han
dicap, one mile relay handicap, two mile
run handicap, 880 yard novice, 600 yard
handicap, three mile bicycle race and
one mllo walk handicap.
All the best amateur boxers have been
Invited to compote at tho Sixty-ninth
Regiment Armory to-night, when they
will take part In special four man classes
In all weights.
Entry blanks for the nmateur boxing
tournament to be held under the aus
pices of the Creficent Athletlo Club on
Tuesday and Thursday nights, October
21 and 23, have been sent to all the
clubs In the metropolitan district. The
classes to be contested are 110, 111, ISO
and 146 pounds.