awful things happening there."
"What were the awful things?"
asked Chairman Henry.
"There was a man in the cell
.with me," said Knebel. "He was
a Pole. He didn't speak much
English. His wife and children
also were locked up.
"This man knew from what he
had heard that his wife was only
a f ew.cells away from him, and he
started to call to her in his own
"The turnkey ordered him to
stop yelling. The man did not do
it. The turnkey opened the cell,
and dragged the man out and
threw him down stairs into the
dark, cells in the cellar.
"There were children at the
breast locked up in 'the cells.
There was a woman locked up,
who had had a baby two weeks
"There was a Mrs. Brown, a
widow, who was locked up with
her children. The woman and
children were given what the jail
people called coffee. It wasn't
coffee, and they didn't give them
"After the trial, children lit
tle children were dragged away
from their parents."
"To be taken to the poor
"But," interrupted Stanley, "I
thought they violated the inter
state commerce law to keep these
children with their parents. Sure
ly you must be mistaken in saying
that they then separated thern !"
"No, that is what they did,"
said Knebel. ,
"What on earth did they went!
to lock the children up for?" de
manded Representative Pou.
"I don't know ask them," sarid
"Is this jail you were in, and
the women and children were in,
the same one in which they lock
up thieves and cutthroats?"
"Same jail, same barred doors,"
"Were any of these children,1
bad children, desperate children?
Did any of them carry firearms or
dangerous weapons?" asked Henry-
"Oh, no," said Knebel, with a
bitter smile. "They were quiet "
little children, you .know." '
"Were these children tried?"
"Yes, they were. Their moth
ers were fined."
"This is the most serious thing
we have developed so far," said:
Pou. "I wish this committee
would have on thektand everyone'
who knows anything about the
way those children were locked
up in that place." v
The next witness called was
Tema Comitta, another member
of the Philadelphia committee;
She told of securing the consent
of parents to taking the children
away adn of taking the children
t6 the station.
"I took the children and lined
them up two by two in order to
get them through the station
door," said the girl.
"The children went before me,
and when I got to the door, all
I 'could see was a terrible, strug-
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