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others 'have done in the past but
such learning as will enable them to
hew out a high road through the
"American working men and wo
men will soon realizewhat vocational
training will mean to their children,
and when they do, criticism of voca-
tional training will cease.
"in vocational schools lies the cure
for the necessity of long periods of
apprenticeship, during which boys
and girls, underfed at home and un
derpaid at work, are subjected to
such temptations that their survival
of them should be our proudest
"The whole idea of vocational
training is to make boys and girls
more able to support themselves,
isn't it?" asked Lieut-Gov. O'Hara.
"Well, no," said Mrs. Young. "You
must add to that, that real vocational
training must implant in the minds
of the young a desire to become
something, an ideal, a steadfast am
bition." "Would it be well to enact a mini
mum wage law," asked, O'Hara.
"That would be speciallegislation,"
objected Mrs. Young. "Besides, as the
cost of living advanced the legal
minimum would remain the same."
"You have in mind a fixed law,"
said O'Hara. "I was thinking of a
flexible one, which could be changed
as needed from year to year by com
missions." "I think such a law would be a
good thing," said Mre. Young.
"You say real vocational training
would give boys and girls an ambi
tion to forge ahead; what is the am
bition of a girl who leaves school at
1A 'and goes to work in factory or
store at$6 a week?" asked O'Hara.
"To get out of the factory or
store," said Mrs. Young, decisively.
"T9 marry or get into something else
"Do you think factories or mer
chants paying girls $5 a week a menace-to
. "I do.?
"Do you think-uch -places ought
to be uprooted?"
"I do, and 1 think that-the owners
of them should be sent to school."
"What do ybu think of the Cooley
vocational school bill?"
"I do not indorse it I do not be- -lieve
in training the young to con-,
sider they belong to a lower indus
John J. Mitchell of the Illinois
Trust & Savings Bank was a sur
prise. "I think that the wages paid girls
in some places are a shame and dis
grace," he said. "I don't believe in
paying low wages. I don't think it
pays, for one thing. We never put
any man in our bank under bond.
We pay them living wages and trusj;
them. And none has betrayed our
trust I believe we are the only bank
in Chicago that does this.
"Of course, if you enact a mini
mum wage law, you probably also
will have to enact a maximum profit
law, because unscrupulous mer
chants would "be liable to take the
difference out of the consumer by
raising prices. I believe the day of
such a maximum profit law, making
it illegal for merchant or manufac
turer to make more than 'a certain
percentage of profit on capital in
vested, is coming."
James B. Torgan of the First Na
tional Bank also was fair in his an
Asked what he thought of a mini
mum wage law, he hesitated for a
moment and then said:
"It is a question of study. It is
only after such a thorough and
scientific investigation as your com
mission is making that the wage
question can be settled "at all."
Joe Basch of Siegel, Cooper & Co.
was the same old money-greedy
Basch, When vocational training
was mentioned, his eyes lit up. Pos
sibly he thought vocational training
properly handled by the employers,
would mean increased efficiency on
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