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TULSA DAILY WORLD, FRIDAY, SEPTUM HUR HO. 1021 IRISH EXTENDED ANOTHER CHANCE Lloyd George, in Answer, Proposes ruw r hi ivy to Make Peace , DUBLIN ENTHUSIASTIC optimism Runs High in Cen ter of Sinn Fein Activity; Dc Valcra to Reply Soon nt'Blt. iept. 29. Optimism v,r an . r1v settlement of tho Irish ,1 '0 ,,ri.iim wan aroused by 1'rc Wire i.W'Xt Oeorgc'a latest nolo received hero thlM after "V ,. i immediately taken under ,niJcraU"!i by tho elnn fcln cob Icrt. Offer Diwrvm Conflilcnm "1 prrmlrr' letter Justifies full nubile corfidetico in tho proposed ma ron ' l 1 1'iiwCp Kit a. v. . t .loll elrennn. "Kajrionn h yal''a answer ,u uiai,- Mi aft- "' I'llicui1 beforo the Ubln-t tomorrow." Tho KtHfal uniirciKwuii ncm in . V ... - t.lnv.l rionrirn'u nntn strlf-' t!'. fmnl abandonment of tho hansu 'f phrases; waken It cer tain tint' 11 P"rlcv wl11 1,0 ll0lJ nml cf(c- the hopo that do Valcra may cat better tcrnw. DO OICTil I14W mi unm t ... InnitnM tnM fh(V 111. iiovoj "f'J" could discuss tho clues Hon of bow Ireland can bo us (iKiittd with tho Hrltlsh empire with mit compromising tho position already lalt' n by dall elrcatin and the Miiti felo cabinet. . . . ftcr a Drier consuim-nun wiin uiu cabinet, dc Valcra departed for his wajlde !)"ii.c. no nau k-vch . ... (n ,trnfr n r.nlv nntt lull l'ri u"-. w m j It was expected that It would bo completed ''mo ior imraanco to morrow nvrnlng. Homo of tho Mnn feln minWrs accompanied do Va ler. ihvnnv Kant. 23. l'rumiflr Lloyd (!trgo today replied to Ka monn dp alera'a nolo of Soptcmbor II InvfMnR the alnn fcln to send d'i'gatM to an IrUh peace confer-" lilo in London oil October 11. The premier reiterated tho cab! ntt'a Jeilaratlon that Irish lndopcn dtnre ' unn.'t bp recognized and pro- Several Cities Shaken Up By Pacific Coast Quakes HAN KUANCIHCO, Sept. 29. A abort but sharp cartliquako wan felt hero about 9 o'clock today. No damage resulted. LOS ANOKLUS, Popt. 29.- A few persons residing In the. southwestern part of tho city reported that they felt two very light shocks ahortly beforo 1 o'clock this morning, which they Inforrcd might tpm been alight oarth'iuakes. Thero was no damage, of any kind and the shocks were felt In no other part of Ios Angeles. At the local government weather burenu thero was no record of an earthquake. SANTA tJIiAHA UNtVEllSITY. Calif., Hcpt. 29. Tho observatory seismograph here last nights Hnd today recorded itevcral llght earth tremors, originating apparently at a great dlHtance, Kathcr ltlcard, arls- nmologlM, uiinoumed today llr tween three and five main shoi'ks wero notlr.cahle on the records, but not of sufficient violenre to ootHi lulo a rlar record. Tho tremors appeared to bo continuing, Kither lllckard said. He stated that them whs not rnif. flclent scientific data to determine whether thero might bo a ronnec tlon between the prowni heat wave on the I'aclflc count and the tremois. tests that a basin of negotiation can-' not bo reached through correspon dence. The text of the communication follows: "Despite tho Irish derogation's sln rero desire for peace and despite the conciliatory tone of dc Valera's lat est communication, wo rannot enter a conference on tho basin of this correspondence. "Thero Is no purpose served by further exchongo of explanatory ar gumentative communications on this subject. "Tho position taken by hlH maj cstay'H gdvernment on the funda mental existence of the British em plro cannot'be altered. "Notwithstanding Mr. do Valera's prrsonal aaaurancea to the contrary, it might be argued In tho future that the acceptance 'of the conference upon this basis (The basis outlined In do Valera's note of September 19) Involves recognition that no British government could afford. Tho gov ernmcnt must gunrd Itself against any jioxxlblo doubt. ' AnxlotiH for Sultlrairnt. "Myself and my colleagues aro extremely anxious to mako arrange, menta to cxptoro every possible ave nuc of discussion. Tho proposals Mdu already havo been taken by thn,who!i world aM proof that our endeavors for reconciliation and a settlement are not empty form and wo feel that conference nnd not correspondence Is the most practic able and most hopeful way to an un derstanding such as we ardently de-aire. KAI.T IVKH CITY. Kept. 29. Several distinct and severe earth quake shocks wero felt at lllchfli ld, Klslnoro and Monroe, a group of hamlets -about 160 miles south of hero this mofnlnc- Thn only damage reported was the - wrecking of a srhoolhnuse at Klslnore. ltb'hfleld felt a sex ere shuck three weeks afi REALTORS REJECT WATER QUESTION OO.S'TINt'KD KnnM tf!B OVK somo hitherto un li li d fact rnn rernlng the vlwli of the tonitnittee with Charles Page on Hi ptrmlier 12. Thetej Inc h, tun, anordint; to tin re port, wero n"t contained in tho re port submitted several duos agj. llefore reading his report Terwiliigcr explained he could not conscientious ly ngree with Vlner and Mnhew "I feel It my dut," Terwllllger states, "to relate some Incidents that took-place nhllu the axamliiatinn was going on Incld.'iitH that do not appear In the report aj It .a sub mlttiM, On.o of the most Important questions submitted to Mr. Page was this: 'Will you, if the Kpavlnaw bond lssuen comes tip, as we antici pate It will, us.' your influcnre and that of your friends who were op posed to It to unite with the peoplo to carry the bond Issue, provided the city of Tulsa contractu with you to furnish the city with wnler until the Spavlnaw project is completed?' 1'ago'n first emphatic answer was 'No!' I ha'd hardly asked tho question when Mr. Miller, who had Hccompinii'd tho committee, pro tested very vehemently by mylng: Terwlllloer, you havo no right to ask such a question it Is not fair. It is not decent,' and he continued his protest by asking that the ques tion bo stricken from the records. I patiently asked Mr. Miller who was supposed to bo representing thli i ommlttee as ho was not a nnm'cr of It. lie said nothing mon P.igo proceeded to answer the qie-'ion by dei taring he was not for nab' and explained why ho wa not for sale 'to a bunch of real estate men.' Ioiig and Tlnglcy llxcil It. "Tli munition tematned un changed mttll we returned from our visit to the Shell creek dam When we returned the stenopraphei had compiled the report ami it as be ing verified by Mr I'agc'n office force, principally Claude Tlngiev snd I'Vank long. They protested aRKlnat! such a report going out of the of-1 fire with that kind of an answer and consequently brought heavy, ptewurn against inu to withdraw tho question. llut i onsldered It necessary and mfuued to wltlidiuw It. Thoy then departed Into a prl-i vate room and made several pencil! aiiHwcm am) submitted thorn to Mr. I rgo. Finally he agreed t on lb" answer that appeared In tho recent report as It was sumhltted." Terwllllger's report stales further that "your committee called on the nonpartisan wak-r ominlsslon ami Its members showed a remarkable spirit of resiiect .anil co-operallon In helping us obtalfi all data ueeeMviry, referring us to Mr. Ilcjway, the eon suiting engineer, for details. I called on Mr. Holway anil found that the Spavlnaw surxey U Helng puslied to thellmt, ami he expects to Klo H detailed report of It to the public in about 30 days. "An this Is a minority or hull vlil.ial report. I feel free to express my leWH on the water Munition, and I want to say thl: The Hpuvl nuw hond elt'i tlon Is to he held as quickly as poonlbli , prob.ibl. Home time tills fall. Why not wult until wu gt all Information niiout l'imvl naw liefore exploiting omn uiinl that hns a dam at one end which is certainly not u project In keeping with Tulsa' needs for tho present or for the I in me?" Club DIIi'Iicn Water Affair. Ah this suggestion was carried out bv tho passage of Walker's motion. It appeared the victory was won by those opposed to Mliell creek, as Mushcw, Miller and others niude a strong effort to defent the motion. Miller, finally realizing that he represented a lost cause, made a mot fon that tho committee bo 'dis charged "anil that It have no more to do with the water bualnoas." Ills motion was passed. lloth MV'er and Mcshew became extremely belligerent ami Insistent that the .Shell creek resolution be panned before adjournment. Miller's words were almost vitriolic at times. Iloth worn unyielding In their de mands and were visibly dlf appoint ed with the meeting adjourned without taking thu uctlun they sought. Homenne suggested that the news paper rep. t rs w I iK' Jbll I what had transpii i d u t ,c in. (ting i I don't ..ire wt',1' ibr ni..iirH say." Miller deil.ticl vihemeiilly lluv ln.lv sav I hill tin 1 1 ill estnie exchange didn't have nerve enough to take a stand on this question. 'We shouldn't leave this room with out taking action." .Miwliew (iclM "Itllnl." Mexhew, apparently angry, took exi'vutti'ii to a statement by J. t). HlmmotMi that "the rommltlee's re port was not complete, expronslmt only Its views on Hhell creek and lacking figures,'' and that Mr hew could nut know much about the in ojeets 'because he hnd not attend ed the committee Hirelings "You ian'1 ot bonds for Hpal naw," Mmhew retorted hotly ' uu think 1 don't Know arijthlng? I'll show J mi whether I know anything about It There won't be any bonds oted for tfpatlnxw in three jeais no, not In I ft years ' "if we can't take some action, wo'd better null." Miller added his voice to Meshews "ospeelallv after everybody tilse has taken aitlon on this. We're going to have Hhell irmk water," ho Milded emphatically before taking his i lislr and glut lug around the room. Tim Insistence of Miller and Moalicw. had evidently uioiik.hI the curiosity of Walker, who arose and, looking at those two mniilu r. stal ed pointedly. "You fellows must be afraid of something If I wiut In ttlnod to bo skeptical of anyone, I'd bo skeptical of you." Why (juoMlnii Page'.' Miller ndmlttod having minis the statement to Page tlntt was credited to htm by Terw iIIik.-i , lie declared that "no one bus a right lo question Page as long ax lie is ptlttltiK hi own money Into tho project; we made a mistake by Including Kpavlnaw In the, in vestigation of this committee,. It should havo been only an Investi gation of Hhell creek Page doesn't need a contract to buy the pipe, he'll finance It." lie added that "the water rnlmiiliHslorfH term of office cxplicH next May," but failed to stato what he believed would happen after that. Menhew declared the Hpavlnaw project will cost J10.000.noo, and this statement alarted another argil, ment. "Who told you that?" demanded Theodore Cox. Mimhuw hesitated a moment. "I got It from tho watur board," he re plied. "No, you didn't," Cox aleilared "That's nil propaganda. No figures have been obtainable yet as to the cost, not oven bv the wain- board ' it wrut at this point that W. C nii;rr nroe ! a p. int of oidrr a J ailing Hie r.'lc f p. " o. in ' . xpt ilu.il that aiolng w i t'n water qiiesllou like itibbing an old sore." Mrjihew Hdnt ttril the losb ol Hteger's itatemenl, but continued by reiterating mat ine cost win no MO, 000, 000. lie then computed the Interest on thnt prim ipal and pointed out tho omt to Tulsa. "What dona $10,000,000 amount to for a city like Tulsa," asked ateger, why by this time had been drawn Into tho argument, and added "If It should cost that much? Henry Pressey, the first engineer to maae a survey, Mild It would cost about ft, 000,000 and pntvlhly only 1 1,100, -000." Hteger was chairman ot tho allied clle , ommlttee when Preawiy made Ills report. Hteger recom mended as an amendment In Walk er's motion thai the majority and minority report be turned over to the water oommlMlon. Instead of tabled. The amendment was not Included. ' Miller had explained that lie winked for the Hpavlnaw project when It was put l.a vote two year ago. "What I can't undeistand." re marked Korrest Welch, "is how- the. people that were once for Hilnaw aie now for Phell creek The eltii ntlon today ( the same ha it was then, wltli Hpavlnaw and Hhell i reek aa lhajimjects under discus snn It eeems to be that If one has b.id roof he should p .t he cntrnt l. merely patch It but should add a new roof " Hteger explained he is opposed tn Shell rrrck In somo mrasiirn be- iaue tho use of that propeil would necessitate a contract with an lndl vidua!. "Which I the worse In Tulsa now -Hie street lighting system or the water system?" he asked. "You may not hellevs thl question has any thing In tlo with tho matter tlndor discussion-but llslen: Contra, ts have been let by tho rlly for ad ditional street lights since last May. It has a contract with the Public Herrtce company for furnishing these itirhls. Yet the contract la not fulfilled. Ymi see my point? The city of Tulsa "hoiild not contract with sn individual or s corporation for its water supply or for anything fkie that should be owneil bv the mil -nlclpaltty. It should own Its own supply. Whenever It place the water supply In the hands of one man. It ha made a mleliike You U.-en't recoxer on a bond with an m- dlvld ial or a corporation ' .1 .1 Illlike, a local home builder, preceded the dates dlsciiHslon with a short talk fnvi.ilim Ihn piopixied charter amendment alilhorlrlng the city to guarantee the payment of paving asseronvents and thus In crense the value of paving scrip I', s r Ming a lemon (e-u'erer Is a n w (, (.pener whi. h .atn i Mm i , 'cnt in a up after i utl , th shell "f i APAI1Y whoas orgina ftinetldn r-ffulsrlir 1 liuslilni. txtiur tatr. Whs n hihr crlrsand lifret. tul look for ronitlDalion, It r j- l gensraJiir tn rorsrunncr . f of nrrooineia, fTsrUhneii, 1 lidchs. eelda and rojnr ether dlitrei.ini allmenta. 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