a FTER considerable acrimonl-,
ous discussion^. the /'striking*.
/¦^ carmen and the officials of the.
y mm^L United Railroads of San Fran-
>A> cisco niet for/the '¦« first' .time
* , • sincp the strike was declared..
in the offices of the /company k
yesterday afternoon. The 'demands 'of .the'
union carmen were formally presented,
but no action thereon was ; taken. The par
ties to -the controversy.' separated; .with
tho ; understanding that v the " company
would file its; reply -to-day "i . : . ; V > .
There was a materlariiltch In. the .pro
ceedings, of the day when the company
sent Its' refusal' to meet the 'committee of
strikers, in the office of Mayor Schmltz.
The company. Insisted that the conference,.
if held at all, must convene In Its offices,
and. not in those of the Mayor of San
Francisco! The members of the, "union
committee were Inclined to resent. this at
first, they holding- that the Mayor's of
fice was neutral ; ground, : and- that ..the'
company ought in reason to accept 'the in
vitation of the Mayor. . A disposition man
ifested itself to refuse to meet the com
pany at its, own. offices, but during the
afternoon It was decided to me'et the com
pany In accordance with its request. -
MEETING WAS CORDIAL.
The meeting of the strikers'; committee
and officials was cordial, to all /appear
ances. . The directors seemed desirous of
doing all in^thelr power to arrive at an
early and' satisfactory agreement, .arid
when the union demands were submitted
they were read and; informally discussed.-
The directors said, they desired time '/to ;
consider the matter further, aiid f the par- 1
ties, to the big strike separated with the
implied understanding that some decisive
action /upon • the- demands" as^ presented
would betaken to-day. . / .'.; •• /• ¦ . -. -'. , .'¦',.
• The demands made by the carmen have
received the; indorsement; of .'Mayor
Schmltz, who " says : they arc. just' arid rea
sonable. Just how/the" directors ' of ¦ '• the
railway corporation regard , them' is , un-
DEMANDS MAY
OCCASION
DELAY.
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Continued on Page Four.
CHICAGO, April 23.-A special train on
the Santa Fe road left here: to-night for
California with 350 members of the Inde
pendent Order of Foresters, 200 of whom
were from Montreal and Toronto. Special
trains for delegates to the General Feder
ation of Women's Clubs, which meets in
Los Angeles May 1, will leave here to
morrow and the next day. The Santa Fc
has had to make very extensive arrange
ments- for hauling a heavy volume of
business between now and the 27th, .when
thirty-five trains will.be required to carry
"West the people who are going j to -.the
gatherings of the women's clubs and the
Foresters. The delegates of the women's
clubs from Iowa," Illinois, "Wisconsin, Ohio
and Pennsylvania are to meet ', here and
go West' on the Santa' Fe, epending an
hcur in the GrandCanyori en route.
Many People Coming West.
,' .-The. Ma> on said he did not> see anything
radical in.', the ;demands and commended
th& arbitration:. clause .in the submitted
agreement.'..' He was of /the opinion that
the .'demands were "very. fair r whereupdn
Knox .moved -that the .men" refuse to at
*tend a conference at, the company's office
urging '.thaLi tiey, ; the > strikers; . had .some
fcellns'in. this matter as well as-the cbm-
INibORSEI) BY.^ MAYOR.
-..-It' was the^Vnse. of the. brotherhood tc
refuse to'. go to] headquarters to^settle th9
differences: ; They demanded; he said, neu-.
trar ground. .' / • " > ' ' y'/.'"
'£i Knox- then, handed to the'Maj v or the .de
mands,upon 'company, published else
where In> this, issue, which; he = saldi""askei
"for ; nothing ~but ; what -was ¦ eqtji table : and
'therefore reasonable:*' .. . '
the 'press.'
'company's representatives need be afraid
to- meet the people's .City-^Hallj- a
quest ; of the 'striking men. which, would,
he^ was ?ure, meet with the sympathy.- and
the support 'of : the! citizens,, of San Fran
cisco. : He /obiected to holding the ' meet
ing, at.' the .'company's- offices, : where "' the
company's ''stenographers, he\ submitted,
could take" down ' notes' and. twist them
and give |them- out In'-their own. way .'to
At. 10 a.m. a sub-epmnjittee represent-"'
ing/the v striking ; . carmen .- met' at th«
Mayor's, , to - receive the", answer . c f
the railroad' company, as toT a., joint mWt
inp which- might' enable ',\ both 'sides * to
come to an| amicable understanding. The
men Vere "represented c.by,'. 1 H.- A:; Knox.
who acted :¦ as . spokesman ; O: Af Lop'p"*. M.
O'Dowd/'G.< B. ;IIuj?gins, ; W. Shafer anil
C.';( S. : , Herron. • i.Thore ;, were 4 also . about
twenty jother- strikers'.' present..' "'.' •'¦
¦ "Mayor ;Schmltz, ih"-"'recelvlngVtlie'"com
mittee, said '-ihc'v regretted .- to/announc?
that the ; company,^ was" splittlng'.hair.s 'as
to the place of "meeting," a matter 'wWch
• :• " ; public; yesterday. - There , was
considerable hesitation, by both' sides to
yield the ; right to/ dictate ; the place ¦ of
meeting, the company .insisting \ t he ' con
ference should be', held In 'its offices and
the strikers>.maintainlngithat the prpppr
place; was- Mayor Schmltz's ofnee. In the
interests of .harrriony! however,' the car
men finally yielded and the /confereiu'e
was held" in , the offices :of the company
late, in "the .afternoon." '• .' ' . i , .:- V ¦;
p m *HE - conference ;. between '• the
(& :striklng carmen and the., offi
fg clals' of the United Railroads of
B; San Francisco* was "the absorb-
' • ;.' ing .topic .of interest to, the
1-As-Etated yesterday"- we.-shal|f take. mu,ch_
pleasure . in . meeting, a;- committee , representing
our rmp'nj'ed'srid'at.tM office of the company
at the yWells-Fargo building. •/;•;¦>' ¦. ¦
'.'¦ We shall be; slad to 1 , «W such; a; coramlttf e ; at
10' o'clock: this morning 'or "at'any ¦"other' time
that/may be, more/ convenient." : Respectfully.'....
united; railroads- of'san fkancisco.
;*, By". the. Executive" Committee of the .Board of
Directors. ' ' . ..¦ •¦¦;.•¦,; '.'..•'¦; ,. • ¦'
! . [Attest : ¦ ; OjKO. F. W ILLCUTT, : Secretary. '
v '. San Francisco, April 23.''-. ' '• / '•,'¦" '
-; ; ; CABMEN vTKOTEST. <:
After r the / reading, 'of the: communlca' r
tlbn by;the Mayor Harry ; A. ;,Knox on. be
half of- the meriprotested_ that, while/ they;
were vjilliiig and anxious' tojmeet theirep-'
resent'atives of 'the, company 'they ;;(tlu
men)".werc ; : not asklns too;,, much "when
they /desired., that, thft [conference ..should'
bc ; held in -the' office I of the .Mayor 'of '¦ Sun'
Francisco; which! he .contended,, was neu
traP; ground." ; lie could ,not sec'whyCttit 1
."The Mayor •.then ' read :the following 1
'communication, received from the com
pany: .'/"_,. -. ..,¦:::•'/¦' / ¦ .;/.> •'.'.. ! '*;
;'.'¦ His: Honor, Eugene E.> Schmltz, ; Mayor': of
San Francisco— Sir:;. We, v b*g' to. own receipt
this t". morning .of your letter~of ; last evening. \,
he felt ought not. to stand in the way of
a speedy, settlement! .'¦ .,.'...' -\~ '
pany. feelings which he felt should b«
respected. Again he urged that nowhere
else should the conference be held other
than/ In, the 'Mayor's office.
. The Mayor said that if there was any
objection. to the conference being held In
his office.- then he would suggest that it
take .place tn any. other neutral place*
agreeable '. to the parties concerned and
rfgaln" expressed his deep regret that th»
company should ' stand out against- the
fair proposition of the men. He had hoped
that the company's representatives would
have, met "them that morning as asked,
when the matter might have been settled
and the men returned to work.
-Richard 'Cornelius said It seemed to him
that there' was no place more «afe for
the conference . than the office of tha
Mayor of the city and moved a resolution
that the conference be held in the Mayor's
office. W. G. Burton took the position
suggested by the Mayor that any othtr
office for the conference, so that It was
neutral ground, would meet with the sup
port of the men. Knox tnen desired to
say that it- would seem like weakening
for them to . go to the company's offices.
Carmen and Officials of the United Railroads Meet,
Discuss Demands and Adjourn Without Action.
CONFERENCE OB THE STRIKING CARMEN ANd THE OFFIGIALS OF /TrlE UNITED RAILROADS
What I eaid made a distinction between two
classes of people — the first, the demagogues,
who did not believe what they were ' saying ;
the other, the class of people to which the se
nior Senu tor from Massachusetts belongs, who
did believe 'what they were saying; were per
fectly sincere, but were suffering from over
heated consciences — that la, they were too sin
cere. Instead of criticizing Senator Hoar, I in
tended to pay him a compliment on. being so
slftce're. j In regard to my leave of absence,
I made the application one evening, but "de
partment matters came up the next morning
that made It Impossible for me to leave here.
Therefore I telegraphed withdrawing my ap
plication made the night before, and before f.he
W*r Department had time to act upon It. Th*
banquet of the Middlesex Club In Boston is to
be glvpn April 20. I received within one week
ten telegrams— three in one day — urging me to
attend. Senator Lodge was very anxious for
me^to come. As you understand I cannot dis
cuss any order I Jiave received or may receive.
So far I have received the order only through
the newspapers, not. officially. I had decided
to talk no further of the Philippine question.
I have nothing to retract, but I. can't refer to
these things without my blood boiling, and I
have, therefore, concluded that the safest pol
icy 16 to avoid the subject. I have had my say
and the people know my sentiments. I have no
desire to harp upon them.
DENVER, Colo.; April 23.— General Fun
ston, referring to the order from .'Wash
ington directing him not to discuss •, thy
Philippines, dictated the following state
ment to-dav: •¦ .
EXPLAINED BY FUNSTON.
The President is determined to stop the
discussion of ' public questions by/ army
and navy officers, and' the reprimand ad
ministered to General Funston' was made
public both for the additional punishment
which publicity involves and to show of
ficers of the two services that they. must
keep within the bounds of propriety if
they desire to escape official rebuke.
A" copy of the letter was sent to eSn
ator Hoar, who. it Is understood, ex
pressed satisfaction with the action
taken and announced that he. was willing
to let the matter drop.
Brigadier General Funston, Commanding De
partment of Colorado, Denver, Colo.
"WAR DEPARTMENT. WASHINGTON.
April 22.— Sir: I am directed by the President
to Instruct you that he -wishes you to cease
further public discussion of the situation in the
Philippines, and to also express his regret that
you should make a Senator of ¦ the United
States the object of your criticism or discus
sion. Very respectfully, ' -
WILLIAM CARET SANGER.
Acting Secretary of War.
MUST STOP DISCUSSION.
Senator Hoar is understood to have
been deeply 'off ended by General .Fun
ston's criticism, and the administration,
learning of his dissatisfaction, 'decided 'to.
take General Funst<oiKtd accounts, "-in ac-'
cordarice' with : irustrtrctiohf^glven- byrth*
Coionel Sanger, acting' Secre
tary of War,., sent this letter ! to-day to
General Funston: '¦¦-':.:
"I have only sympathy for the senior
Senator from Massachusetts, who is suf
fering from an overheated conscience."
CALL BUREAU, 1406 G STREET, N.
W., WASHINGTON, April 23.— Brigadier
General Frederick FunEton, who captured
Aguinaldo, has been reprimanded by the
President for indiscreet discussion of the
Philippine question, and reflections upon
Senator Hoar of Massachusetts. The
President has further shown his dissatis
faction with General Funston by Refus
ing to grant him permission to deliver
an address . before the Middlesex Club of
Boston. I The action of the President fol
lowed a perusal of the speeches which
have been recently made by General Fun
ston. At the banquet of the Colorado
Sons of the Revolution General Funston,
referring to the Philippine insurrection,
is reported to have made this statement
concerning Senator Hoar:
Special Dispatch to The Call.
Captor of Aguinaldo
Takes Medicine
Gracefully.
Unpleasant Action Is
Due to Criticism ...
of Hoar.
President Indicts an
Order to Stop
Talking.
MUZZLES
GENERAL
FUNSTON
CHAFFEE
GIVEN HIS
OWN WAY
Obtains Permission
to Wage War on
the Moros.
Asked to Endeavor to
Prevent General
Conflict
Danger of an Uprising
of Ail Philippine
Mohammedans.
Epecial Dispatch to The Call.
CALL. BUREAU. 1406 G STREET, N.
TV.. WASHINGTON. April 23.-General
Chaffee is to have a free hand in dealing
¦with the warlike Moros in the island of
Mindanao. Though expected to exhaust
every resource of peaceful negotiation he
is to be allowed to carry on a war against
them If necessary to bring them to terms.
This in brief is the policy of the ad
ministration, as revealed by official cor-
respondence between the War Department
and Major General Chaffee, made public
to-day.
The correspondence begins with the
cablegram given out last week, dated Ma
nila, April 13, in which General Chaffee
recites the killing of the first American
soldier near Malabang and the forming
of an expedition under Baldwin to arrest
the murderers. In answer to this the
following dispatch was sent:
WASHINGTON. D. C. April 20, 1902.—Chaf
fe», Manila: Expedition ordered under Bald
win will not leave coast until you hear from
bere. This will not. however, Interfere with
complete preparation. CORBIN.
ASKED TO AVOID WAS.
<3lf-AprIl"i2 the following "tcferam was
sent: . . '¦'.'.
Chaffee. Manila: The Presfdent Is anxious
that no expedition against Moros until all ef
forts by negotiations have been exhausted. To
this end he desires that you confer freely with
Ihs acting civil governor. In event the force
has to be sent he directs it go under the im
mediate command of General Davle. The Pres
ident will give you all support, but desires ex
ercise of. great care and prudence. If possi
ble avoid by all honorable means general war.
CORBIN.
Chaffee, Manila: With reference to previous
cables on subject I have suggested to Presi
dent that possibly airrender of Moros mur
denrs might be effected by Instrumentality
fr'cr.tjly dattos. President desires "this consid
ered in conference -with Wright and to have
afsuram.e every honorable peaceful remedy
l^as been exhausted. CORBIN.
General Chaffee responded to the last
cablegram by the dispatch given out at
the White House last night stating that
to withdraw all the American forces
would ruin our prestige; to withdraw part
of the forces would be dangerous. To
this statement the following response was
iKade to-day:
"WASHINGTON, April 23. — Chaffee. Manila:
Tour cabl* of yestfrday has been submitted by
Acting Secretary of War to the President, -who
Clrtcts that you 3:»cp in rainJ the resident's
orders, but of course do nothing that will im
jjair our prestige or m any tray imperil the
enr.y. If after the expiration of the time
named in your proclamation and after all po?
e!bl» diplomatic an<3 frienflly methods have
been exhausted, your demanfl for the Moros
ir.urdcirrs has not been met, you will act upon
the lines that In your Judgment vc\]\ best serve
to bring peace and order In the island of
Mindanao.
PEACEFUL REMEDIES FIRST.
The "President's orders" referred to in
this dispatch are dated April 20 and April
22. The first directed the expedition under
Colonel Baldwin not to leave the coast
until further orders. The second message
said: "The President Is anxious that no
expedition be made against the Moros un
til all efforts by negotiations have oeen
exhausted."
Brigadier General Davis was directed
to assume command of the expedition in
care it proved necessary to send it, and
the dispatch added: "If possible avoid by
all honorable means a general war."
A third message suggested that the sur
render of the Moros guilty of the murder
of Americans might be effected through
the instrumentality of friendly chiefs.
General Chaffee was instructed to confer
with Acting Governor Wright and in
formed again of the President's wish that
before engaging in war every "honorable,
peaceful remedy be exhausted."
These dispatches show the deep con
cern of the administration in the Moro
situation. While professing to believe that
hostilities will b£ confined to the Moros
of the Lake L*anao region. It sees apos-
Bibllity that other natives In Mindanao'
may join their brethren In fighting the
Christian Invader. It Is especially ~de
tircd by the President that no religious
aspect be given to the war. for If this
should be done there is danger that the
Moros in all parts of the Southern Philip
pines, who are all Mohammedans, will
rice against the Americans.
understands that the President is ready
to order reinforcements to Manila should
they be required.
No additional troopi have been ordered
to the Philippines, but General Chaffee
AT a meeting of the Board of Directors of the United Railroads to be Mdthis morning, ih*]demandsoj Jh& sfr %
-/TL tcrnoon, will be passed upon : and a decision by the tnanagement of the corporation iviH dispassionately
discussed. The jbest of feeling prevailed throughout. What tJtereMt of the cmif em . v\:';; : S J\.
STRIKING CARMEN SUBMIT DEMANDS OF THE UNION TO DIRECTORS
OF THE UNITED RAILROADS WHO AGREE TO GIVE ANSWER TO-DAY
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