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SPORTS
OAKS HAVE AWAKENING
IN THE SIXTH ROUND
Seals Lose a Game That
Looked Easy Before
Rivals' Rally
nKlstl.TS OF GA\IK*
Onklund 4. «an Fr»nol»c« 3.
L«i AnneJ*-*. 14. Portland 0.
STAVDIXG Oh" THE CMBs
\V. 1- Pot.
!.*»• AiiKrlr* SKI "O . !>7S
«»n Fmnrlsro Wl **9 .520
Oakland *S S7 .BOS
Portland <** OS 305 <
W. J. Slattery
•The Seals had a bunch of the vic
torious goods in their vest pockets
r'or f.\x spasms on the Oakland lot yes
terday r.fternoon. Then there was an
;iwful switch and the Commuters, went
through their opponents' clothing, re
moving the winning certificates. Three
ims were hammered through l>y the
>akland brigade in the sixth and one
n-the seventh. Though the Sfals wpiu
of one in their half of the ninth, the
was too fast and they 'quit with
n^n still on the bases.
Bigbce sot the example for liis tram
nat^s in tlie disaster period by olout
•a% safely Into oenf-r. Haley had one ,
T\-jth the same brand on it and Bill
'i>\prpaux varied the monotony by
iking n base on balls for himself,
his made it a house full of anxious
Kik!an<l<TS and not a soul to the bad
ilit.ll Hopkins skied to Strelb.
Jimmy Smith, the next man up,
iiould have be^n bowled over quite
s easily, for all ho did was to tap
. pimple one to th* Seal second base
nan. But Streib did not aim at the
• !at£ when he tossed to catch Bigbee.
;.r.d as a consequence both Bigbee and
Haley rejristei<d and Brick reached
tiiird. He lingered there only uutil
Van llalticn produced a long fly to
risht.
This gave Oakland a lead of a run,
but just to polish off the rough work
•. lie Suburbanites swung in with a fin
isher in the eighth. Biiss and Bigbee
.<K!.-<-d tlie leather liard to the outrieM
. . ! liaJey lifted a long fly against the
sight iield fence, giving Bliss all the
lime he wanted to parade as far as
the p\iiie.
The only period in which the Seals
iiKU'^d prominently was the third.
£ire<?t drew a four spot and Jones
Landed o:; Bigbee's boot. Tlilde beat a
Vjnt and all were safe. Piper's bingJe
put Street through and Williams gave
Jones a chance to register by going
out to first.
Street's nice two cushion drive to
Oocp left Held fence in the ninth scored j
/.•\u25a0:der from second and put the Se_ls ;
within shouting distance of tying up)
iii- scurt-; but neither Spencer nor j
(•"sola, who came up to wailop for;
Str--:b and Jones, eo'jid pick out any- J
tiling that looked rife, so the game
\u25a0 nded tlien and there. * to 3 against
Oakland play^u far better ball than
'^••-t '.reek. Tlie tendency to run out
•\u25a0iicn the otht-r team liad the b«uur
\u25a0-f it was not r.otieeable. The fc'eals
weVfl suffering frorr. too much prosper
ity when they grabbed those two runs
i:; the third spasm and it looked as
tfiouga they figured it v/as a pipe to
aro on and win without gathering any
more. The score:
SAN FRANCISCO
AB. It. BH. SB. PO. A. E.
HiMfbrand. 1. f 4 1 1 0/5 1 0
J'-wr. c. t :*. « 1 <» 3 0 0
\u25a0William*, lb S 0 0 0 « 1 1
UliPf-I'T. «s t O 1 0 1 1 0
M.-lciio'.r. r. f 3 «• 2 OS « if
7*\C*t. ::i> * 1 1 « 1 2 0
-tr!"b. l!h r, .. v ! 2 1 I
SimV. - 3 I 1 «• 2 <1 V
.i-nf-s. J....: 3 « 1 O 1 2 0
«Fj«rf« 1 O » <i « <• O
••St*no.r 10 0 0 0 0 0
Totals 32 3 S 1 24 8 2;
OAKLAND
AB. R. BH. SB. PO. A. E. j
I. 1 4 0 <> 0 1 0 0
\f,i, Hslm-a (% t... t « 0 «> SO,©
UoinnulW. r. *.... 4 '.' <» <•
J>c»n. sf \u2666 0 2 « 2 2 1
RUM. <• 4 1 I 0 1 2 0
Bictwe. 1b 4 12 2 9 11
Haler. -Jb 4 1 1 1 •'. 2 0
lV»^reaux. Sb 2 \ « <' 3 4 0
JU.jjkins. p 1 0 <t 0 1 3 1
Totals 31 4 7 3 2V 14 3
•BttKsl for Str^io iv ninth.
e *BatJ r-dr -d for Jont>» in ninth.
HUNS AND HITS BY INNINGS
S*u Krunolsco 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 — 3
BasrtiiU 0 1 2 1 0 1 1 O 2—2 — 8
Oakland O 0 0 O 0 O 8 1 x — 4
i;.i «\u25a0.-:.:: h 1 0 0 1 0 1 2 2 x— 7
SCM MARY
Two bas*> hits— Heitmuller. Kazan, Street.
Racriflc* hit— Hopkins. First base on called
baWs — Off Hopkins 2. «iff Jon»s 3. Struck out —
By Hopkins 1, by Jonf« 2. Itouble plays — Hildft
>>ran<l to Wlif-cl^r. Van Haltren (unassisted).
Time of jram« — 1 hour and ?& mlnutos. Cm
lilro — Pfrrine.
ANGELS HAMMER GROOM
Score Fourteen Runs and Hand a
Blank to McCredie's. Men
IX>S ANGELES. Oct. 8. — Los Angeles >
defeated Portland today by a score
of 1 4 to 0. Hosp held the visitors to
three singles, while Groom was hit for
.1 » and a total of 23 bases. Cravath
made thr»>e two baggers and a single,
out of fly«» times at bat. Nagle made
a three bagger, a two base hit and a
single and Ellis a home run. Score:
LOS ANGELES ~_
AB. R. 8H. T0..A. E.
Bernird, 2l< 3 2 1 4 2-0
Carlisle, 1. t 3 4 2 0 0 0
Naple. r. f 5 3 S 1 0 0
Cravstn. lt> 5 2 4 11- 2 1
Krashenr. Sb 5 0 2 1 2 0
Kills, c. t. 4 113 0 0
ItFlmae. ss. 4 0 « 3 4 1
Hopan, c 4 1 o 3 0 .0
Hoep.- p 3 1113 0
Tottis 36 14 14 27 13 2
POKTLAND
>. AB. Jl. KH. PO. A. E.
Donahoe. 2b 3 0 0 2 0 0
Kaferty. c. t 4 0 12 0 0
MoCredle. r. t 4 0 1 a 0. 0
Johnson. *r 4 0 0 0 10
Kenn«Hly. lb 4 0 0 8 0 1
Barely, *l. 1 3 0 0. 1 0 0
Mott. Sb 2 0 I^l S 1
BvrnPs. « 2 0 0 7 1 0
Groom, p 3 0 0 0 B\j 0
Toislf .....29 0 3 24 8 2
. UCNS AND HITS BY INNINGS •
I,os Anjrfles 4100130 0 0— 1«
BaFfhits 41023400 o—l4
Portland '. . . 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0— 0
Baneblts 0 O2 0 0 1000—3
SUMMARY
Home run — Kills. Thre*> base hit — Nagle. Two
bsfe hit* — Craratb 3, Nagle. Sacrlflee hits —
Naglc. Ellin, Bernard, stolen base*— Carlisle,
Crarath. Un»p. Brathear 2, I^ft on ba«>»— l/>s
Angvles 5. Portland S. Ba*n on ballR — Off Ho«p i
I. off Groom 4. Suwk «i«t — By Groom 6. 'by
Hofp 1. Wild pitch— Groom. First base on er
ror—Portland 1. Hit by pitcher — Donstiue. Hosp,
It»rnar<t. Time of game — 1 hour,. 45 minutes.
L'mplre— Qulsg.
Baseball Notes
It lookt es tboush the Seals will bare to
ebow a lot of speed from now on In order tc
kp«»p in second place. , We had faint rlsions
. of a pennant a few weeka *^o. but place money
will be acceptable herea_fter.
Kid Mohler was not able to ; break lnto' : . the
Fame yesterday, tbouirb be was figuring oh bcinp
lh*rp. It will hardly be worth" the kid's while
to t?L<» a chance now, with ' the finish uuly t
Sl'Mltll Ji" BY.
Cubs and Tigers Battle Twelve Thrilling Innings to a Draw
Spectacular But Indecisive Contest Opens Series for
the World's Baseball Championship
Sp<jziai by Leased Wire to The Call
; CHICAGO.- Oct. S. — The Cubs and the
I Tiger* fought and clawed one another
| for 12 thrilling: nnd spectacular Innings
I at the west wide jungle this afternoon
| and darknrxx finally put an end to the
i titnnlc battle with the score , 3 to 3.
| Xever in the history of the world*
\u25a0 scries under the national agreement has
a more fierce or exciting; battle of
champions been waged. It was Greek
meeting Greek and diamond matching
diamond, hut neither would allow the
, other to ttcorc the first triumph in what
; promises to- be the greatest world's
I (series ever contested. . Each team bad
| many chanccn to win the game, but the
j Tigers threw away several of theirs
by poor head work in the early innings.
Then' "Wild' Bill" Donovan, who pitched
a wonderful same, tightened up on
the National . league champions when
they threatened to trample upon his
cherished plate.
The Cubs virtually had the game
won in the tjenth, vrhen Slagle scored
on a wild pitch by Donovan, but Steln
teldt interfered with Catcher Schmidt,
and Umpire Hank O'Day rightfully
called Slagle out. Again, In • the
eleventh, the Cubs had the bases full,
with one' out, but Zimmerman fanned
i and Reulbacb forced Sen ul to at second.
'\u25a0 FINISH IS SPECTACULAR
The finish of the great struggle was
; as spectacular and dramatic as could
!be imagined. When the,' locals opened
j the last half of the twelfth darkness
I was rapidly creeping over the hu
• inanity incased arena and it was cer
| tajn that the gladiators would ' be
pulled from one another's throats at the
end of the roun. The Cubs, realizing
that it was their last chance, put forth
every effort in their power to win, but
the fates willed otherwise. ,
Slagle, the first man up, was out -on
a grounder to O'Leary, but Shreckard
was hit'by one of Donovan's more inti
mate shoots. Manager . Chance then
stung a terrific, liner, but Herman
Schaefer, leaping high, speared.it with
one hand and doubled Slireckard off
first. It was a marvelous play, and it
was some seconds before the vast crowd
could gpalize that ; the great struggle
was at an end.
The game was filled with thrilling
and heart breaking situations.. The
Cubs took the lead in the fourth round,
when Johnny Kling sent his manager
across the plate with 'the' initial 'run of
the great series. Everything . went
along in fine shape until the National
lcaug"ers : took a brief balloon. excursion
in the eighth inning, and this, aided
by two hits, sent three runs across the
pan and gave the Tigers what appeared
to be an insurmountable lead. „
CUBS DISPLAY GAMEXESS
The Tigers are considered the gamest
team in the business, but the Cubs were
there with nerve ; in the ninth. A hit,
two errors, a hit batter and a" pair of
out gave them two, runs. 1 This tied
the game in agordian knot,,which,de
fied the strenuous efforts of ; the two
contestants to untie In s the succeeding
three innings. _-
"Wild Bill" Donovan, the great
twirlet- of the Detroit team,, was the
real hero of the afternoon,' but big Ed
Ruebach, who held the men from Michi-
Reulbach, who held the men from Michi
deserving of great .credit, .as he had
the Tigers on the defensive all the time
after the. score .had been; tied.; *
Barring a .brief letups in > the ninth
tack of lumbago, which iir <^>ntracted In the
\u25a0\u25a0outh. the result of a severe cold. , Old.. War
Home' Wheeler has been brought out, as -usuel \
to fIU in the gap at the third" station. ";
VThUe Irwln U laid up,. Nick .Williams will j
take bold of the reins and guide the team In tlie
fields Nick . was. full of * ginger I yesterday, and
ordered tho hoys around so stfrnly:that,sonic of
them thought > that he; was.; only' kidding.'. 3 Nick
explained later'_that it* \u25a0vras necessary, for ; hlm \
to do a lot of talking,ln order properly, to srace
the Important, position^ of leader.
'"; •': '• \u25a0 . •
< All of. the. ball playersj are rery much . inter
ested In tbeblg series In. the 'east.. When)the
results of the various innings were posted on
the Scoreboard yesterdayj great: enthusiasm"•. wai
shown by fans' and * tossers , alike.' Most \u25a0\u25a0 of I the
ball players " faror \u25a0 the - Tigeni," for ?. the •: reason
that they hit "\u25a0 the: ball; so \ hard." 'J At: that ,tUe ;
majority' were, pulling'-for- Chicago';-, yesterday
because Orerall .was ; pitching. •/Orvie-ma.<ie; so •
many friends in \u25a0 this i league \u25a0 that' his; popularity
remains, though -he\ls"several \u25a0 thousand ~~wiles
\u25a0way.: - \u25a0 -; '"•' \u25a0,
:;*'•..* •
•-The fans will learn '.with, surprise and sorrow
tlist Hddie Qnt.-k.: tb«»jpopular;Seal'-pltcli^r.^iiail
ttf Wu<» <: nT<ioj>» 1 slipped Jolilni •jT-sienlayr.vlMj.
o;;t earning, (^-.lick wasjii ..hac«J»- ,<nai» -T'<r; tl.<
h«>u?^ li>aiii Jbls season.. Bf-siui'spit'-lil;!^ <ijv«'li
THE SAN FR^NCISGO CALL, WEDNESDAY^ O(DTOBER 9, 19^
THItEE MEN WHO LOOM PROMINENTLY ON THE BASEBALL DIAMOND DURING THB
WORLD'S CHAMPIONSHIP STRUGGLE. -THEY ARE. '.FROM LEFT TO RIGHT:
PITCHER ORVAL OVERALL OF THE CHICAGO NATIONALS. MANAGER FRANK
CIUXCKOK. THE SAME TEAM AND .PITCHER WILLIAM DONOVAN OF THE DETROIT
\u25a0 'AMERICANS. •-> . . . / . .\u25a0 . , \ ?•>\u25a0-•'
•«. : ; - v - • •• -t.
and eleventh j innings,. Donovan - .was
virtually invincible and had the' Cubs
guessing all the time. He fanned
twelve of his formidable opponents
and it was one of these twelve.strike
outs which allowed the Cubs to score
the tying run in -the- ninth.. Howard
was sent up to bat for. Tinker,- Who
had whiffed three, times in'\ succession,"
and Del followed his example. Catcher
Schmidt, who played . the poorest game
of -'.-.\u25a0 any y of the .. Tigers, ; dropped .; the
third strike, allowing . '. Howard to \u25a0ko
to first and \u25a0 Steinf eldt . to score. - . . ' «
o'\*eiull' is kept guessing
Manager Chance • pinned .his faith to
Orval Overall, but the giant Call
fornlan was given. many bad moments
by those Detroit sluggers. Davy Jones
and "Wahoo Sam (Crawford were espe
cially pleased with? the 'fnational league
twists, each gathering three singles.
,'\u25a0 Overall's pitching;, kept the Cubs on
the defensive most' 1 of "the' time in the
first part of the contest. •In the third,
fourth, fifth and sixth rounds . the
Tigers opened with safe, hits 'and three
times in. these same sessions .they had
a man left 'on* third ;when^the third
batter was called, out. 'The ; big ; fellow
was going along welltat .that " and ) his
assistants were -putting * r up the snap
piest sort! of. a £imeS behind, him.
j The contest .was. watched by an Im
mense" crowd,. the enlarged > stands be
ing, packed to capacity, v while"; a thin
fringe of enthusiasts occupied, standing
room in .deep? centerj; field. Whatever
ground - rules , may i. have \u25a0: been f ormu
latediwere vnotf ln*evidence, "as none of
the : 197 hit s: went .outside Hhe^playlng
space. ; The- stands .were -built {close up
the foul ] lines \u25a0 and . ; all-around ; the ; field,
except' in. deep' right, [where > the i-spa.ce
was i left open, • Captain . Chance ': of ; Chi
cago* having been ; fearful \u25a0 that' Detroit's
star ; batsmen \u25a0 would drive ; the ; ball : into
\u25a0the " seats in^ that ; section. : As it turned
out only one; hit went in"; that direction,'
and ,It fell j far short . of ' the ; barrier.
throng"' besieges "gates;
,Th*e game was '. called': at \u25a0 2 :39 (o'clock,
but; four, hours, before : that i time;; long
lines ; of would tbe; spectators were- be
sieging 1 * the , \u25a0 gates and ; good ; , naturedly
was ; always there to:,fill sln , gaps \u25a0 ln-.theMntieid
and outfield; lie was JBeVerely^injured;on v; the
last northern ;\u25a0 trip and v has i been'carrying': his
rlßht hand \in a sling" for J the; last. week: \] Quick
likes; this city., and will; "spend \u25a0 the 1 winterV here.' 1
As be always made good with theY fans,'; be hug
their.' best -wishes - wherertr } oe. may.: roam."
IHBaBSBHRS^^-v:-:-"-'•*'•.-\u25a0 •'..\u25a0"\u25a0;,- \u25a0'.'-'-- \u25a0
" For: some , reason [ the : managfers hare, not been
trying ;oet many -aspiring"; young ibushers lately;
It: is Ithe , general"rule-for?the ; teamsiin^ the
coast, leajfue to scour '_ brush'.when:.'the V«.-iKon
near*. the close, \u25a0 but;therej has been little stir
"rlrig this. time.-;i The {.managers's may; be i over
looking ' seTeral: HtW [ bets"; by; their shortsighted
ness. ;•- The. fans;, will i remember - that I'such 5 lads
as Jimmy; Byrnes,* Charley?Baum/; Bobby; Eager;
Billy i Hogin.*. Walter! NagU.V Nick iWiUiams; nnd
many Vothera : who: came »In' with \ the \ real. yard
wide' goods .were' dlseoT«red: in: this '.way.* Evt<ry
body: knows ; that: mote'i good.'v substantial bi;ie
ball,' material i bas^ been '\u25a0:; dug up. in and *'arbuud
the, brush \u25a0 than any of I the. wise; director generals
eTer. Im ported' from i far 'away i lands. /-.
GIFT • TOj INJURED ATHLETE
.'BERKELEY,: Oct. 8.-— A two handled
sil ver.-; loving: mount cd.:;' k on an
base.' hus. been ; : . prosonted •.Hugh
IX., Hunt.: t hn' freshnmii, wiiosf- ll^g^was
fnictureil .' a - wt-ek •:" a^o "in lint' -T<'i?ne
vvi t h': Sim tv; Clara:"' ..The c:up iaUlu- I ; ylt't
of -his: tenniinatfs. .' ' - '•
.":'.': '\u25a0 .: .-\u25a0':--—. I---'-'*-::'-. \u25a0\u25a0'. \u25a0\u25a0\u25a0 . \u25a0 \u25a0-.:'<-. '\u25a0 : - .' ::-
struggling to be through the turn
stiles so as to secure points of"van
tage. The crowd was remarkable for
its spirit of fair play and courtesy and
the fifty policemen . had no trouble at
all in keeping it within bounds. When
play 'started the ; spectators in "the Held
seats -were unable to see over ' the
heads of the persons.' in front,' where
upon men and " women alike, removed
their hats and tied handkerchi ef s about
their ears,' sitting with this slight cov
ering two and a half hours
of baseball In a /breeze that was, at
times" chilly. Twenty-eight thousand
fans saw.; the game. The score:
CHICAGO V
AB. R. BH. PO. A. _.
Slagle, , c. f .....6 0 2 .-.2 V'O 0
Bbreckard, L f . . . . ..5 0 1 2 0 0
Chance, lb ...4 2" 1 15 0 0
Stelnfeldt, 3b ...... 3 .1 112 0
Kllng. c ;.. 4 0 2-8 3 0
EYers, 2b '& 'ss ...4 0 2 3 8 2
Schulte, r. f. ........... 5 0 1 2-- 0 1
Tinkrr, ss 3 0 0 3 5 0
•Moran..... ......-0 0 0 0 0 0
••noward ! ..... 1 0 0 0 0 0
Zimmerman, 2b ...... .'7. :' l 0, 0 0 1 0
Overall, p 3 0 0 0 2 0
Reulbach, p :.... 2 0 0 0 o '..' 0
-Totals ......41 3 10 30 19 3
•Batted for Orerall In ninth. "Batted for
Tlnljcr; In -ninth:
'>\u25a0""-.- DETROIT :
AB. R. BH. PO. A. E.
Jones. L f. 6, 1 8 3 10
Schaefer. 2b ..:..;..:... 6 1 7 4 0
Crawford,: c.~ f ...... 5 ; 1 8 10 0
Cobb," ,r. 1..... ..6 0 0 0 0 0
Rossman, 'lb .....'...;..' 4 0 0 0 3 0
Cougulin, 3b ....8.0 0 10 0
Schmidt, c ....,;..;•.... 5 02 12 3 1
O'Leary, ss' 4.0 0 ;0. 8 '". 0
Donoran, p 5 0 0- 3 8 ; 0
Totals ....... .....;. ..44 3 9 36 §1? 1
RUNSBY INNINGS- "''^.-'.
Chicago .............0 00 10 000200 o—3
Detroit- ......... ;.r.O 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 o—3
[';'\u25a0'-> - : . ' \u25a0';. ;; SUMMABY 5 "\u25a0\u25a0 ' /
HI ts off ; OTerall — 9 ?. in 0 . Innings. . Sacrifice
hits— O'Leftry.-. Stelnfeldt,'; ETers:..; Stolen bases —
Slagle 2, •* SUreckard,"': Chance, , ; Stelnfeldt,: Ever*.
Howard, ' Jones r 2, - Schaerer, \u25a0;\u25a0' Rossman." ' Double
p!ays--ETers -to .Tinker; :Schaefer,Mo Ros«man. J
Left on : basest-Chicago 9, : Detroit 8. - Bases on
balls— Oyerall \u25a0 - 2, : Donovan ,8. \u25a0. First - base ,on
errors— Detroit 1. \u0084 Hit ;by \u25a0 pitcher— Steinfol.it
and : , Shreckard;' Strnck ; out — By,: Donoran "\u25a0 J. 2 ,: by.
OTerall " 5, | by ; Reulbach 2. Passed ball— Schmidt.' j
Time . of . came— 2 : hours, and *36 minutes. I Cm- ;
plres— -O'Day ? and ; Sheridan. . .';\u25a0. "^ .:'.""'\u25a0
STOUTENBERG FINISHES
FIRST IN SKATING RACE
.Wilfred , Stoutenberg, ; San Francisco's
wonder on roller-skates, led the bunch
across the, finish line.last night :in the
first jheatl of/ the five/ m\U\ roller skat
ing' 1 races^now * being) contested in ' the
I Coliseum: .Will- Jones; of ,' San % Jose and
Floyd'- Holland^ oti San s Francisco ? f ol- 1
lowed, 1 him, Twinning ; ; second "and third
places In' the; order named. i;.: ' ; 4 - "
?;?Although*'-= the . had vto
travel s4s :j times , arbundf (he?clrcle -be
fore) finishing the [five' miles, they/ did
it ; in) the i f ast ; time of . 16 'minutes - and
SS^seconds^^.;-;; 7 ":^ - . . - : . ''\u25a0 ".. " : \u25a0"\u25a0\u25a0\u25a0; .--.-' \u25a0•' .•"•.'
' t For ithef first 'five; laps ; Stoutenberg
headed setting"; a^fast; pace.'
Thenjhe'dropped.backito second.'.where
hefremained Umtillhear j. the s end, ; Jwhen
he^spurtf'dito'thejfrbnt* anil 1 fin iahf-<l 10
yards I ahead i of ; the/snvondViiian;'; , .
' About ' ZJj oo; persons 'sa '-v; I lioiracc.
<'\u0084 R. r :Ci)r!sti;insen :uf this; city ;has
purchased ;-;a" ; -.Cad II la <"•".. •' : / . . " ". . :
RUGBY EXPERTS DIFFER
ON INTRICATE "POINTS"
Interest Is Developed by
Football
Column
William Unmack
I take-pleasure in^publishlng a*.let
ter, received ; from \u25a0 Russell Jar vis In ref
erence to "my decisions' in "The Football
Column"; last Friday. It follows:
I Dear Sir:, The' ball i» : thrown " In . from- : touch,
i One. of:, tbe Barbarian ..; forwards •-"knocked on"
and : Stanford -men jrainod possfs»ion of the ball,
a.try,a '.try, 'being .'the direct result of the "knock od,"
was:; scored. '— Was; the referee 1 Jnstifled In- al
lowing'the splay, to. continue.', or should. he haTe
orrtored : a srnim - for . the ."knock on" ? .
In: answer - youv say that "the fact that
the. ball was \u25a0 knocked on was not sufficient rea
son" for , the 'referee to blow.- his whistle."; He
had to i see If. the opposing side -gained -an : ad
vantage.'.' ...'..•
1 i be? - to : state that that if> the interpreta
tion of \u25a0 the ; rule— l«s." . ywi say^-only when • the
ball is -thrown in when' tho teams are In neu
tral territory, j that ; Is : between the two ; 25 yard
linfs.. When other " than this, the cutsom fol
lowed by ; the boot roferoeeß Is, In the., event
of the side defending gaining th^ advantaße from
a knockiou.oy the nttccklng team, to sllow play
to continue: . but - should the - defending .- side
knock oiv and the Attacking sldc.get th« ball,
; then r the ; refpren orders :n,: n, nenim.' :\u25a0_
This is.: of cmirsp. only proper and reason
able." •"; as • racist knock ona are accidental, and
It would bo hard lined fur atcam If-inithelr
own 25 yards.. on<« of thPir forwards- in Jump
ing for.- the- ball': was to \u25a0 knock •on right into
the - opponent's*" half's- hands— an advantage
Rained by an.scrident— benco the liberal.trans
lation of the rule which I've se»-n applied. times
out of number. . :
• In \u25a0- regard to the ccit qnestibn :
the Barbarl.in team wer<» wltuin 25 .yards of
the Stanford goal line- an-V It -as the latter*
throw In": "the throw in fs a long one. though
uniler \u25a0\u25a0 the • circumstances It wouldn't be the
iiMial praoi'ee.- and the .strong wind carries
tbe ball beckr Into th» hands \u25a0. of - on" of :tfce
Barbnrians' back division, who thus \u25a0 would have
a fair " chanco ; to " score. ; According . to yo«r an
swer the rpferen would allow - the play. to con
tinue, the" RarbariaDS in this , case - being the
opposing side.: having gained the advantage."
Your answer Is only correct In • so : far th/t
the play Is, as In the other example, in neutral
territory. .
\u25a0-'• ; I : would be • ploased if you were to publish
this, as It might possibly, be of use to some
one. I' remain, yours truly.
"ftnSSELX. JARVIS.
San lTuneisco, October 6. 1907.
- Tlie rulings this gentleman gives are
perfectly correct, but at the same time,
the decisions I rendered on the points
I in- question also were ; correct, as I
gave .the direct interpretation of the
law as applied to the particular points
Hn neutral territory, as they occurred)
: submitted to me.
While there are no "direct written
laws" covering the interpretations to
which Mr. Jarvis calls attention, it is
an admitted "unwritten law," and the
decisions. in his. letter, coincide with the
"referee's references" of all the princi
pal referees'' associations of the world,
and personally, they; are rulings 1 use
In practice.and used in the big game
last: year.
Russell Jarvis brings up what are
known to referees as "points," and
such "points"' can be found in almost
every : question asked. The correct
decision on these "points" (which are
different from the original questions
asked of me) probably will be interest
ing to others of the general public,
and I publish the letter, which cer
tainly gives a clear and concise decision
on Hhe-two 1 :- "points." '.
;.No referee isinfallable and I greatly
appreciate : the action "of "anyone who
calls attentipn.^to rulings with: which
they ; do not agree. If I find that my
rulings at a«y time are: incorrect I
am sportsman enough to: admit it. In
this instance, though, I am correct.
• : Stanford freshmen will play their
final gam*; with the Santa Clara team
today. ' ' This will "bo*. the last game
prior to the' blg. : match on Saturday.
California's, freshmen -will not" play be
\u25a0~ Tnn a v
iipiPPi, and Thursday AU 1 U
l^S^^" 9 To m SHOW
The WINTON SIX-TEEN-SIX, on tour from coast to coast, is now in San
Francisco.
This remarkable car not only completely outranks the best fours, but proves by its re-
markable flexibility, absence of vibration and jolt, its quietness, simplicity, elegance and
splendid workmanship that America makes the best car in the world. Runs on level
or up grade |
LIKE COASTING DOWN HILL
The Six-Teen-Six ranks among motor cars as the Twentieth i Century Limited does
among railroad trains; Examine it and you willbe amazed how it emphasizes six-cylinder
supremacy.^ THE "EXCLUSIVE I-CAR7 OF 1908. Output limited to 500 cars. San
FranciscoV-quota is small We estimate that the entire number "will ;be sold within ten
daysV; " These -buyers will be the Select anion g motorists ; their cars will:set the pace for
style and performance. Deliveries will be made in rotation as orders are booked.
Get a today and;obserye how the Winton; Six-Teen-Six makes
'\u25a0- motoring delightful b^yond:any previous conception.
The WINTON MOTOR CARRIAGE CO^
426 and 428 Van Ness Avc, ; Near McAllister St.
JOHNSON ON HIS WAY
TO FIGHT JIM FLYNN
Husky Smoke Is Due From
New York in Latter
Part of Week
There is no longer any reason to
believe; that bis Jack Johnson, the
pride of Chicago's darktown. is about
to weaken and fail to appear on time
for 'his meeting with Jim Flynn at
Colusa .near the end of . the month.
Promoter Jim Coff roth received a tele
gram from Johnson yesterday after
noon, saying that he would leave last
evening ; for this city in company with
his , manager, Sam * Fitzpatrick. They
are due Saturday. Coffroth was much
rel ieved when he was handed the tele
gram, for he had a lurking fear that
the big smoke would run. out on him
at the critical moment. -j '
Coffroth has been having his troubles
with the telegraph wires. Time and
time again he shot messages across to
Johnson in Gotham, but failed to re
ceive any* replies. He could cot figure
it out until yesterday, when he learned
from Johnson that the latter had not
received, the message "reserving two
railroad tickets and Pullman berths for
him. In the meantime Johnson was
waiting for Coffroth to come through
with the pasteboards, which were
awaiting, him in New York.
Johnson has never been a .drawing
card, in this city for- the reason that
he was always for the chicken hearted
tactics— something that the sports of
the Golden state do not appreciate.
Flynn - has the reputation of being a
rough, rugged fellow, and for'this rea
son it is figured that a big. crowd will
be there when he lines up against John
son. Most of the fans probably will at
tend in the 'hope of seeing big Jack
receive a beating that will make him
jump out of the ring.
It begins to look as though Owen
Moran, the British bantam champion, is
not coming out here, as Frankle Nell
and his friends had hoped. Moran was
reported as being in New York a waek
'ago. but since that time neither Coff
roth nor Neil has heard from him.
Moran was ostensibly making his way
to California in order to get on with
Neil for the championship of the world,
and Frankie'had visions of wearing
the belt. Unless something stars very
soon Frankie will be compelled to stall
around and search for another one.
This will be a difficult job. for the rea
son that there are few good boys in
the fighting game in Neil's class.
There is talk of putting on Bill
Squires and Bob TV'ard'at the Reliance
club in a six round mill soon. Imagine
poor BUI, touted as a champion of the
world/descending to the level of a ham
and egg fighter, and all within the
short space of four months. But when
they jump into that old toboggan they
generally go some. There have been
many fast rides of late, but Bill has
shown more . speed than any of the
others on the great greased plank ,thi<t
leads to the door of the D. and O. club
house. .
fore Saturday. They are devoting; the
whole week to special hard practice
under the" watchful eye of Dr. Taylor.
The Stanford freshies ought to reg
ister another win today from their
less experienced opponents. In the last
two days they have lmprovd greatly
In theiX play in. all positions. I*ana
gan and Presley are pointing out the
faults to the men and showing them
th»; correct plays. This coaching has
been very beneficial and the cardinal
babies hope to make good on Saturday
with the knowledge gained.
EDITED BY
R. A. SMYTH
DATES ARE SELECTED
FOR THE AUTO SHOW
Exhibition Is Scheduled for
the Second Week in "
R. R. l'Hommedieu
President Max Roaenfeld, of the auto
mobile dealers* association completed
arrangements with the Coliseum man
agement yesterday for the holding of
the automobile show In that pavilion
during the week of December 9-t5. \
The show committee will at once open
the booking for space. This year*
exhibition will be conducted under tha
same conditions as that 'of last year
and those who put in their applications
first will be given preference In allot
ting space.

Details as to the new Steams six
cylinder runabout have been received.
There has been an Increasing demand
for high power runabouts, and to meet
this the Steams manufacturers bay«
put out this car. which produces on a
brake test between 90 and, 100 horse
power. N
The cylinders used In the new 45
horsepower Steams are of the same de
sign as those used In the four 'cylinder
so effectively. An additional ball bear
ing for the crank shaft mak«3 it
capable of delivering up* to 100 horse
power with even less load than th*
present mounting. The motor has been
found to be exceedingly flexible and
smooth running, even on low speeds.
• • •
The B. R. Thomas motor car com*
pany of Buffalo, X. T., has two sub
stantial cars on the market — the 6-70
Thomas special and the 4-40 Thomas
Detroit. The special is a high powered
six cylinder, Incorporating all the best
Thomas features, running smoothly
and quietly on high or low speed and
taking the worst hills and heaviest
roads without difficulty on high gear.
The 4-40 Thomas, a car with beautiful
lines, has a strong four cylinder motor,
a roomy tonneau and a suspension that •
alleviates all rough riding.
A 70 horse power Thomas machine
has been sold by the Pioneer auto
company to W. R. Levy.
• • •
J. B. Van Nuys. who has purchased
a 1908 four cylinder Great Arrow run
about, will leave thi3 city today for
his home In the south. He is taking _
the overland route and has as hlf '^P
guests John R. Page and T. G. Cavan- w
augh.
Andrew Carrigan, with "William
Landry and William V. Freeman, mo
tored down to Del Monte to attend the
convention of the hardwaremen.
• * *
Th*» Miixwelt-Brlscoe-Paclfic com
pany report* the arrival of three car
i H. C. Bre«d*n has passed tiirough
San Jose on his way to visit some of
the southern reports. With him — J:i
hiJ Peerless — wcrf Mrs. Breeil»Ti and
Mr. and Mrs. John E. Uc-alt: of Santii
Irving C.Ackeri.iar. hits just onlrt >>
a ISPS -4 horsepowt r Fra\>r Miller
runabout of the Philatk-iphia. typ*:
from A- H. Hayes Jr., tht local agent.
• « •
A, O. Meyersteln has been away for
a three or four day trip in his nw
i tar through the Santa Clara and Pa
jaro valleys, passing through San
• Jos*-. Gilroy. Y<Tats:>n«-»l!e and D».-l
! Monte. • • *
Cuyler Lee reports tint 190S Pack
aids for Harry N. Stetson and Dr. E.
\V. Westphal will be delivered today.

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