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DEVOTED TO SOUTHERN RIGHTS, DEMOCRACY NEWS, LITERATURE, SCIENCE AND THE ARTS W3. J FRAICIS, Proprietor. Gow--auw our I-attar Itanab."TE3- oDoarPe -___ _ -LLS, --- Advance *OL *I SUMYTERIVILLE,S.OC., AUGUST 17, 1852 POLITICAL. SPEECH Os ves 1IOmW. W.1. L. YANCEY. In Mr. Yancey's speech in the lte Southern Rights Convention, he tnade the following points in support of the minority report, the question being upon the amendment offered by Colonel Williams: He yielded his assent to the amend ment, because the lengthy and heated debate of the day previous, had con vinced him that it was only upon some such ground that the members of the Convention could ever harmo nize, and preserve the integrity of the Southern Rights party. There were objections to the amendment but in his opinion, they were of less importance than thus, which existed against a continuation of such a contest as had taken place between the friends of the ninurity and majority reports, respectively. The course which the debate upon the minority report had taken, huw. ever, rendered it almost imperitive upo:n him, that he should offr to the conventio.n, and through it to the Southern Rightas party and the coun try, the reasons which had operated upon him in mituking that ri.eort, in conjunction with the delegates from Coosa, Jefferson, Chambers and Rus sell. ' repwtrecommende.l a co-ope not an atmalgrimation, with emocratic party, in support of eneral Pierce for the office of Pre sident. It recognized the necessity of a continued independent orgurtiza tion of the Southern Rights party, and suggested the policy of a sup port of General Pierce as a party, t'~e .ip ih specified grounds neither accepting nor rejecting him as the nominee of another party nor in any way endorsing the plat form of that party, which brought him before the country. The position which this policy would give to the Southern Rights party, during this election, might be compareil to that held by the Iireneh army, which co-operated with the American troops during the r.-volu thin:ry war---strugghing against eotilunon enemy, with put pose sonae what different in detail-though ha ving the common object of freeing the country of a power, which had used its power but to oppress. Like the French army, too, the Southern Rights party, in this c.n test, would he governed by a sepa rate and distinct organization--acting under its own oifieers-ecupy in distinct camp-gromund--aw.'l rall v be neath its owl, flu;g ; and at this cl.'se of the campaign, dissolving its tem porary alliance, without in the least degree having its integrity athfcted. The general objection urged against this policy is, that we have ever de nounced the national party organiza tions as unsafe and unsound upon the great slavery question. and that we should therefore repudiate all con nection with them; and, therefore, the proposed policy has been, de "nounfced as little less than treason to one of'the great principles of our organization. Mr. Y. said that this is not an open question. The Southern Rights convention of the 4th of March last, contemplated such action as has been proposed by the minority report. Mr. Y. quoted in support of this position, the following resolutions of that convention : 15. Resolved, That believing both the old national parties are sensitive to the majority sentiment, and, there fore,' in effect antagonistic to our sectional interests, we will preserve our separate organization, and coal esce with neither, but shall leave ourselves free to oppose both, or Co. operate, from time to time, with eith er, according as their doctrines may, more or less co-incide with our own. 18. Resolved, That for .a more perfect organization, and to consider our course in the coming Presidential election, it is .hereby recommended that a convention of the Southera Rights party of this State assembk at this place, at such time as th< contral committee, hereafter named, shall designate. It being clear then that a co-ope ration with either of the nationa parties is within the scope and aim o the Southern Rights party, Mr. Y said that the only remaining ques tions were : 1st. Is the nolicy indicated onsis tent with our aims and principles i 2dl. Is not a separate nomination of candidntes (brmtdent and Vice President, necessary to prescrve our identity as a'>arty. Mr. Y. said that in considering the first of these questions, the op ponents of the proposed policy had been too apt to forget the avowed policy of the party, and to base their arguments upon a policy now formal. ly abandoned. The late March convention, de clared that " we are constrained, in deference to the unanimous de cision of the Southern States, not to urge secession in account of these measures'--meaning the coin pro. mise acts-and in the 15th resolu ti in already quoted, decided that we were 'free to oppose both, or to co operate, from time to time, with eith er, (of the national parties,) accord ing as their doctrines may, more or less, co incide with our own.' Thise principles aight be thus briefly suntued up: 1. The preservation of the rela ti' , of master and slave, in such Sta'es as choose to recognize the re lation as a part of their fundamental law ; mal in the territories of the United Suites in-o which the master may cho-ose to eiigrate. 2. Stat' smt ereignty in all matters of initerna31l 1 ier\. 3. The ri zht of secession for any infractiion of that sovereignty or vio lation of .he constitutional compact. Mr. Y. insisted that Gen'l. Pierce was a fair representative of these doctrines. Hie spoke of him as ha ving hen erucated in the Woodbury schuol of politics---as a pupil of that pure ani distinguished stateaman, whose elevation to the chief execu ive Offife of the United States would, at any time within the last fifteen years, have been hailed by the Sotidh as an evidence that her constitution al rights would have been test ected during his admwinistration. He reviewed the votes and Rreech es of Ge neQraI Pierce in the Iliutse ..I Rep resentatm ' s, ai.d in the Senate. .hiing the n+ea!.a..auov mdli gr'vih to. . Il' rit . thi a .ti :;m -t i : itati n: all ar1ru. I' t t I -l, and agaiins . Adamls, on evi r - es -1.. byIt the A botlitiis . -s. ti, .1. thei. nuiiesitjti to r" < t e I. Mr. Y. read M'. Piiekine .'S rile. br-d tilshutions, reported inl 1836. h.a . s I "t" tllu ittee , to whom 1-ad he.-i r - . i- all papers relating to the sn'ject u f Shavery, and of which eolunmiteem Geeral Pierce was it renler. Those resolitions were united uon h., the Southern Repre. sentatives, as 1 resenting the best is sie ipon the slavery question, and were fier cely assailed hv the entire Abolition part.y. General Pietree ail voicated te resohtion in~ th e comi .nit tee and in the Ilouse-in all sta Mr. Y. showed that in '37, Mr. Calhoun brought forward his celeblr. ted resolutions on the sanme questions, covering a wider view of the issue's presented than even Mr. Piaackne v's. One of those r-esolution asserteut that the effohrts of the people of the States, or of the States themselves, to pro cure the abolition of slavery in the States or territories, "were direct and dangerous attacks on the institu tions of the slaveholding States." Gen. Pierce voted for, and advo cated the entire series, as presenting 'the true issue hereandl to the country --an issue which would raise not "a mere question of expediency, but one of a much higher character-ia which the public faith is directly in volved." Mr. Y. alluded, also, to the con duct of Gen. Pierce, in New Hamup shire, upon the question of the annex ation of Texas, wvhen Mr. lIale took ground against that measure as a pro-slavery act, showing that General Pier-ce gave all his influence to the South, and counteracted isale's sedi tious influence, ie also alluded to General Pierce's conduct, two years sinice when Mr. Atwood, the regular Democratic nominee in Nxw Ilamp -shire, for the office of governor, comn Imeneed coquetting with the Free soilers for their support. Gen. Pierce at once took the bold ground of ad vocating thc rescinding of thn nomi. natin--the putting up of a new and sound man in the midst of the can vass-and succeeded in effecting this policy. Mr. Y. contended that a review his entare carerr showed that it had been that it had been the aim of General Pierce, not only to keep himself above all suspicion of favor ing Freesoilism, but to keep, as far as lie could, the New Hampshire memocracy in a like sound condition. Mr. Y. also reviewed the past life of General Pierce with reference to the btate Rights doctrines, and pro nounced hun as pure a State Rights man as is to be found out of South Carolina. lie iinsisted, also, that it was a matter worthy of consideration, that Gen. Pierce had not been in volved, for years, in a corrupt and corrupting struggle for the Presiden cy. The office had sought him--ho had not sought the office. le had not sold himself nor bought others by a sacrifice of the independence of himself, and the rights of any section, in order to secure his elevation to this high oflice. Ilis past life was in perfect accordance with gratifying facl--he having repeatedly declined high stations for the peaceful pursuits of private life. Such a man, Mr. Yancy went on to say, must personally be acceptable to the State Rights men of the whole country. There was one personal objection urged against him, howev er, and but one. It is charged that he has said that he '"deplored the ex istence of slavery." Mr. Y. said that he did nut regard it as a part of the Southern Rights creed that we rejoiced at the existence of slaverv; or. that if one "deplored" its exist ence, lie was thereby an enemy to Southern Riglts. On the contrary, there were thousands of true hearted . "uthei tiers in our midst, who, while mealies ing that the State alone has control over the question, and that the inslitution is too intricately inter woven in our social and political sys teme to he now destroyed, would yet ladly get rid of it if it w CI e, practi eable. 'Tihe Co'nvenitiun of Fehr uary, 1 85 !:ad this qiueslionai before it-at the m -tiln ,.t Mr. De Yamipert, of Mo S--it refused to adopt a declara. . , uat slav ery was at moral and a aea blessing. Mr. Y., from this, .maceel that the mere fact that Genl. P'o;rce deplored slavery, threw no hs .aile in the way of his being su, arted banmy Southern Rights man. Vhen, the circumstances under which e ' male the remark are conashia e , the declaration was divested .a the seemiaing of an ohjecti.' h.I renmaaark was alledged to l - j uisedI in a speech tiaade I. ac, Pierce inl his war up1ia I. od, for having winked too ta. . upion F reesoilism; and in tha - j specl, he told the people that thCir imlivi d ual views, as to the good or evil Uf slavery, must give % ay to the consti tutional lrotecilii .. ch1 tlhe institu tion etj ' -. . it was s.,:., n e* - it you sup port Pica ct* ,ut. vni ise the ecmiprao maise, which we have soa often dle atounaced, andl thet Blaltimmaaie platform is relied upon as tauthiority lfar this assertion. Mr. Y. here read the re solutions of the late Democratic nia tionial conaventioni on compronuse, whlich are in these wvords. 9. That Congress has no powver under the Constitution to iaterfere with or control the domestic institu tions of the several States, and that such States are the sole and proper jumdges of every thing appertainaing to their own affairs, not prohibited by the Constitution; that all effonte of the Abolitionists or others maude to indcuce Congzress to inaterfere with ciuestiobs of slavory, or to take incipi ent steps in relation thereto, are cal culated to lead to the most alarmaing and dangerous consequenaces; and that all such efforts have an inevitable tendency to diminaish the happiness of the people and endanger the sta bility and permanency of the Union, and ought not to be countenanced by any friend of our pialitical institu tions. Jiesolved, That the foregoing pro position covers anad was intended to embrace the whole subject of the slavery agitation in Congress; and, therefore, the Democratic p~arty of the Union, stanading on this national platfornm, will abide and adhere to the faithful execution of the acts known as the compromise measures, settled by the last Congress-the act for retrnin~g formta'e fm.,: --"" or labor, included; whioh act, being designed to carry out an express provision of the Constitution, cannot. with fidelity thereto, be repealed or ro changed as to destroy or impair its efficacy. Resolved, That the Democratic party will resist all attempts at re renewing, in Congress or out of it, the agitation on the slavery question, under whatever shape er color the attempt may be made. H insisted that this resolution did not endorse or condemn the late com promise; on the contrary, it appeared to him to be a studied avoidance of opinion upon the policy of that com promise. It simply pledged that party to a faithful execution of the laws. If this had boon stricken out of this platform, and it contained no allusion to those acts whatever, still Gen. Pierce, if elected, would have been bound in the very firac act he performed as President-yea, in be ing made the President--to have ta ken oath to adhere to and abide by the faithful execution of those laws ! And, said Mr. Y:, even if we were now to nominate Gen. Quitman, and should elect him to the office, that would, ex necessitate rei, be also his first official act ! Mr. Yancy, after a further notice of the Baltimore Denocratic plat form, passed on to consider the last, or second question, via: Was not a separate nominatien necessary to preserve the integrity of, the South. ern Rights party? He contended, on the contrary, that such a course would effectually destroy it. He said that it were in vain that we should close our eyes to the circum stances which surrounded us. When the Indian chief fell ufortally wound ed, and on recoguizisirg;-ii the; shouts of the victorious band, the voice of his friend, and exclaimed, 'the voice of Minarroa in the midst of my foes!' he but uttered a melancholy and soul-subduing fact, which is too true as to the position we occupy in the midst of our countrymen. Contend. inig singly and at every sacrifice for -uuthern Rights, we have ever been but a small minority, even among Southrous; only preserved from con teint, on account of the paucity of our numbers by reason of our earn est faith and self sacrificing devotion to principes. No longer seeking a dissolition of the Union-on account of the past we are seeking to bring about such an administration of the affairs of the country as will vindicate and defed cur rights, as well as the rights of all When forced to fall back upon this policy by overwhelming maijori tiesof .r o% n section, we held out itat .cements to the national parties to sup.ose that our support might he olattei, it their nmotiitation was mi1hltcneced by out claims and just de- I iU:im, . At that time, who hped or exC.i , siutclh a nouination as that of t.t.al P.erce? None. Buch ana. ,:as Ki n t..t. a pproach to us, and how tar, Vn . h411 b. U1ti n Bu-elt anman is Gen. Pt-ice, untthmer c nsid eredi as a JL Iat tts uman or a foe to frcee~sina Abe Southern Rights wintg uf te Deumocracy, after a se vere cointest, stuceeedl in originating and mtaking the nomtination of G3en. Pierce. It was amade confessedly upont the iruin of th~e hopes of every promiinentt canedidate who~ had been inmstruimeantal int imposing thne compr-o nise upon the countiry, and had imde it a hobby-htorso for po'litical preferimenit. It was the dheathi kanell to the aims aind hopes anid schemes of the Foote andt Cobb hictions ini the South. Ms. Y. said, -1 speak but the voice 'fa fixedf fact, n lhen I say, this qulestion was dectde fo tr us before we assemble-.I Morec thnain one half thne memabe.rs ofj our harty-rcogntiz ing the goo l faith in which the nomti nat ion was miade- hookinig upon it as a signtal tritumph over corrupa P~resi dentii aispiranits aind schemoers, and a rebutke to Southern traitors, and as a peace offering to the distracted South-have already enlisted in the support of Pierce. 'The debate you have listened to already, has reveal ed thne fact, that a large party in this very body, are determined to sup port that nomination, and have only held back from a previotus avowal of that fact out of respect to the decis ion that the party shtould come to in this session of the convention upon its course. A separate nominmation, apart from all moral and np1ola claration of war by one fourth of our party against the balance; and when the war would close, enmities , d prejudices would create a gulf be. tween the divided merbers of our small band, too wide for even after contingencies to span.' Mr. Yancey concluded by saying, that one objection which had been urged against the course he had re commended, he rather thought, was the reverse of an objection, viz.: That supporting a nomination of ever. a sound man, by a national party, was dangerous, as calculated to give ascendency to that party. lie, on the contrary. congratulated the peo ple that the great controlling party of this country had brought forward such a man as Gen. Pierce-had cut itself loose from old fogyism and the long and intricate machinery of Con gressional President--making-and had once more tuned its powerful influence in a direction in which all well-wishers of the country could wish it God speed. Not that 'arty was even now sound on the South ern issue-but it had scotched, in some measure, the elements of dis cord in its bosom-and the country had a right to expect from its nomi nee a sound and healthy administra tion. [The above constitutes but a skele ton sketch of a speech, which took two hours of Mr. Yancey's rapid de livery.] The Nest E egislattare. The last " Hamburg Republican" after adverting to the various sub jects that will claim the attention of our next Legislature, concludes with the following judicious remarks on the Electoral question: The election of President and Vice President by the people, also, that of the Governor, instead of being elec. ted by the Legislature. 'T'hese two questions are eliciting attention in every portion of the State, and in some sections creating considerable excitement, and made a party ques tion in the election of members to the L-gislature. They are of a grave anl important nature and in our opinion, of such a character, as to de. mand at the hands of our Leg'slature, the abolition of the present system. Our State is the only one in the Union, where that privilege is with held from the people, and the right reserved to pOliticians and office seekers. Why so I Is it because our Legislature is composed of more wisdom than any other State and the people of less. In the first place, we should be proud to entertain such an exalted opinion of the Legislature; but in the second place, we would be sorry to acknowledge such a State as our home, where the people were not intelligent enough to vote for Governor and Presidential electors. No, such is not the case. The truth is, the people have had too much confidence in their rulers to think for themselves until brought to the preci piCe of destruction; but recent de veluopments have caused the people to think, speak and act for them selves instead of trusting all to poli ticians. The crisis of last sunmmer op)ened the eyes of many, and caused a watch of suspicion to be placed over the rulers of the State affairs. Politicians are not to ho trusted where self-interest comes in contact with thc welfare of the people. What do they care for the prosperity of the State, so their acts are compati ble with their own interests. It has been argued that in giving th'e elecdion of President and Vice Pt esident to the people, that it would he attended with too much inconven ience ! We should like to know, if call ng an extra-session of the Legis hituire is not attendled with equal insconvenience as well as an addition al tax to the peolhe without any ad vantage, except gratifying the whims of desig'ninsg politiciana an dlema gogues? ilow is it in the election of' the Governor? Why, lie is chosen, elected and installed in offiec with reigns in his hands before the peole~ know who are the aspirants. All (lone by a few scheming politicians. Wy is it done? Is it because the people are considered too stupid and not intelligent enough to cast a vote for a manm capable of' discharging the duties of the office? or is it too much trouble to the people to meet bien nally at the ballot box of the pre cinct and vote for the Chief Magis trate of the State? or is it too Re r'ic~ian ilh? ce' i, it hnot a.'iMi enough after the old English customs and aristocratic notions entertained and cherished by many or the lineal descendants. With these suggestions. we leave the sulject, with a deter mination to throw our small mite into the scales whenever opportunity of. fers. Relying on the intelligence of the voters itn selecting representa tives, fit and capable of reforming the evils of which we have such just cause of complaint, krom the Cahiden Journal. Populttar Electiosns. We are no lactionist, yet, there are some things ih otur State Government which we should like to see changed. For instance the present mode of elect ing Electors for President and Vice President, subjects the State to unnee esciry expense, and inconvenience. Every four years an extra session of the Legislature must be held for this especial purpose, or the vote of the State is lost. This of course subjects us to a heavy expense, and there is no necessity ihr it. The Legislature must either alter the time of its sitting, call an extra session, lose the vote of the State, or give the election to the people, where of right it belongs. It may be urged in behalf of the present mode, that all these difliculties may be removed by altering the time of the meeting of the Legislature. This would subject us to inconveniences also, and reasons may be shown why this change should not be made. We do not however, upon the plea of inconvenience to the State, or from pecuniary considerations, urge a change ; these are only collateral reasons, and do not involve in them selves any importance, or touch the principle. We are in itvor of coin. rnitting to the hands of the people the management of this business, from motives of a higher character than that of mere expediency, believing as we do that free suffrage is consonant with the true and genuine rinciples of lii, erty, and the grounuwork and very basis upon which all republican insti tutions must rest. Let the people be educated ! Call it by whatever name you may ; it is one it our texts, and one too, which we shall ever take pleasure in urging up on t:e minds of our readers. Call it hobby-be it so, it is a good one. The people should read, think, and act for themselves. How deplorable, and humiliating is the ignorance of the rmasses upon the most cornunoa and simple matters of our government. The people seem contented to leave the decision of all these natters in the hand of others, who think and act with out dir ect reference, in too many cases, to the good of those whon they repre sent. " A liberal and enlightened public opinion, whose approbation is the result of mature wisdom, and whose jtust condemnation is tempered with generosity." This is the idea-a just sentiment, which can only result from the people being educated. We attributo much of the want of general intelligence among the people. to the thet nearly all the important elections are taken frum themn, and given to the Legislature. It may be urged that, by giving these elections to the people, we open the door for demagougeisn much wider-that influences will be admit ted more itajurious in their elfects upon society. We think not ; a word in reply will suflice for this objection. Those who are dispose-d, may now act the part of demmagogues to ia mluch ai greater extent-they can deceive the people much muore ethfetually tan they cold under the plan we propose. If it is urged, that already too nmany elections are ini the hands of the people, we ask wherec can this power more properly rest ? To deny it, is to strikei at once, a blow at. the very fountion i oifall democratic principle, to say that, the people aro not cap~able of1 deciding for themselves. Vt ho thlen can decide? If such be the case, why let the people say who shall be their Clerks, Shmeritfs, Tax Collectors &e? Let othlers more compe)tent, be delegated with all au thority, to do all their thinking and acting for them. Let tho people be comae as phiant clay in the hands of skilltezl potters, who are to mould and fashlion them after their own notions mere figures, lby which the sagacious politic-al arithmetician may make his caeulations. The people, it left to the hent of their own inlclinaitionls, will be disp'osed to do right. Thue masses of the people of our State, are wofully deficient in knowl edge pertaining to our State alliirs. They have never relied upon them selves, but have takeni too muclh for orthodox, becauso leadinmg muen hatve tanght them so. WVe knowv of no rca son why South Carilina should at ht ra with such remarkable pertinaicity to certain aristocratic notions peculiar to herself, which makes it almost a dis tinct and isolated State fmrom othems, which have the same community of in torests, and are Identified by common tac~- --fl n fneninitV and ,!.tinv. We ask, what peculiar benefit hae we Oe rived from our singular course? Ars we in advance of our eom peers Ininter 1 ligence, happiness or wealtn I Until within a few years, wQ jiavo been far behind others in every .cass of enterprise. It is possible that. *s may yet feel a consCious pride in leii Carolinians, yet there is much o which we may not boast. Many of our systems need remodeling, and a general modification might take place, which would result, we doubt not, in good. To make ourselves distietly intelligible, we are in ftvor of giving the election of Governor and the ele tors of President and Vice President to the people. WHAT COULSE SHALL WE PLItsUEI -We frequently hear the enquiry, "will the subject of Secession entet. in* to the election?" that is, the approach ing election for memnbers of the Le ishiture. "No; we have had enough of it," is the invariable reply, To feelings of the people, seem to be decidedly against the agitation of the subject. This is right-its discussions would be fruitless as to good, buc productive of much evil. In fact, we cannot perccive, how those those who have expressed themselves as satisfied with the result of the deliberations of the Convention, in April last, cai consistently enter into an excitement and discussion of the subject at this time. In the Convention, both parties united in saying, although South Carolina had suilcient cause to justify her in seceding, that it was not expedient to do so at that time. Has anything turned up, reo dcringit, any more expedient .ow/ Nothing, either in federal legislation, or among the Southern States. Thu prospects of co-operation, which we presume, more than anything else would add to the expediency of the measure, are certainly no brighter. If then Secession was inexpedient at that time, it is now, and therefore ,'; a discussion of the subject woul'dI4 useless-a work of superrogation. AU~e 'ille anna mer. STREET SCENE IN SAN I" RANCICO. I wish you could be here, says a late lecter to the Boston Traveler, and stroll occasionally through its streets with me. You would, I doubt not, be deeply interested; and many a remark in your peculiar'tyle wonld be elicit ed, which woul affbrd me great satis f.cti.n. Promenade, for instance, on Sunday, through our Commercial street, which is the greatest thorough fare in the city, and extends by the aid of what is called Long wharf, far Into the harbor. During this walk you will meet albost every specimen of humanity of which you have ever read or heard; from the aboriginal- of our own country to the descendants of Cortez and his followers. Then would the Chinatman call to your mind the picture in your juvenile geography where he is represented with a stick on his shoulder from which is suspended a quantity of rats, eats, or other mier ehandize, with his closely shaven head, front which depends a long braided quene. Next you will see the dark amid villainous looking Lascar, his Lead su rounted by something resembling resembling a lantastic smoking cap; and mnerously interspersed among the crowd. you will hear the chattering of' French, Giermaan, Italian-in feet, of. every niatiomn on earth. Most of the womien whom y ou meet, are the Spans isha, Mexican. aid Chileian,-hardly ever an A mericana, though frequently French and Gjerman. The Mexicans and the Chilenians are for the most part fniphecs du pave, educated to their earliest youth. They are called Greaseritas, anad appear ina the streets, invariably with a shawvl thrown over their heads, and dressed in gay colors. On anzy day but Suit day you will hear, as you pass along, the chinking of money on the tables i the gambling saloons, which are vi numlerouls and public, and where many innocent young and eld men too are vict imized and robbed in a few uminutes of what it has taken them, perhaps, years of hard toil to acquire. TIha moust elegant saloons ini tee city are those w here gambling is carried on, amnd as they appear in the evening, brilliantly illuaminated and echoing with the most enachanting unsic, (fhe p~robably nto ether city in the United States, and fewv in the old world, can surpass this, in that particular,) it Is not to b)e wondered at that miany' should be enticed into these roads to - rud. An Irishmnm who had just landed, said the first bit of meat he ever ate in thais country, was "a roasted potato(3 boiled yesterday; and if you do not believe mue, I can show it to you, lor I have it in my pocket now." *M- Down East they put a fellow in jail for swindling, Tho andacious chap had dried enow and sold it fet