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members of the board-I don't know
thbat though-found that I wouldn't
work with them on this Bishop deal
for this dispensary, he went to Mr.
Scruggs, Mr. Smith did, so Mr.
Scruggs told me. and told that if I
got my commission before this elec
tion I would vote against Mr. Morris,
and Mr. Scruggs being a friend of Mr.
Morris of course wanted to hold up
mny commission. Mr. Smith told him
that if he would write to Columbia to
Mr. Evans, or the board, rather, and
ask them not to accept his resigna
tion and to hold up my commission
until after this election he would vote
for Mr. Morris. And I wanted to say,
also, that while I had been on the
board as chairman I haven't been rec
ognized at all as a member. I have
bad no choice wthatever in dispensers
or clerks and have been ignored in
everything which has come up. O
course I have been on there; and Mr.
Evans, i have written to him on one
or two matters and have never re
ceived a reply from him. And it is
customary for the cdhairman of the
county boards to ge: a duplicate of
these orders from the county dispen
-sers, so as to check them up, but he
has never sent me one, and conse
quently I don't know whether the dis
pensaries are straight or not. I just
have my commission, and that is all,
I also wanc to state that the county
board, if everything everywhere else
is like it is in this county, is a com
plete humbug. In the first place, they
go and sign the blanks when there are
no figures on it all. That is the
Q. That is a paper like this? (Pre
A. Yes, sir. they go and sign -hese
papers, and I myself. before I had
any instructions or found out any
thing about the workings, signed it.
Q. This blank here contains the
consumer's profit, gross profits, ex
penses and net profiets?
A. Yes, sir, and stock on hand.
Q. And all of your expense ac
count, the whole business of the dis
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And at the bottom you are re
quired to sign tihis certificate: I cer
tify that I was present and actuall)
assisted in taking the stock of this
dispensary the last of this month and
it amounted to so many dollars, what
ever you found it to be. and ther
you are required to put the itemized
expense account of the dispensary or
the back of it. and that goes to the
state dispenser to show tihac the dis
pensary is correct: you say the sign
-ed this up in bland just like this?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Do ycu know these signatures?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Who's are they?
A. Mr. W. N. Avant and Z. H. Lan
Q. Are they on the board?
A. Yes, sir, I have never received
any duplicates of these orders and
could not tell whether they were
straig!ht or not."
The following report in the News
anid Courier gives the testimony of
Mr. L. Reibling and Mr. C. 0.
Smith. who were one the stand on
Spartanburg, August 11.-Before
the morning session was called to or
der Mr. Blease referred to tihe afflic
tion which had befallen Mr. Horace
L. Bomar. a member of Spartan
burg's bar and an ex-member of the
house of representatives, in the death
of his wife, whose funeral was to
occur this morning at 1o o'clock.
Some of The members of the commit
tee and some of the attorneys pres
ent. he said would like to sihow their
sympathy with Mr. Bomar and their
respect for the deceased by attending
the funeral, and I move that the com
mitree recede from business until
Mr. Frazer seconded the motion.
fittingly referring to Mr. Bomar's
faithful public services and the re
sDect that was due him in this lheur
ci his bereavment. The committee
receded from business until 10.43.
The witness this morning was AMr.
L. Reibling, who testified rhat he had
>been a beer dispenser here for three
years. Mr. Reibling testified that tihe
newspaper fund in Spartanburg was
raised only to buy pen space in the
r:ewspaper, so that the dispensary
p.eople could use it when they wvanted
to inser: matter. Hie was asked cr.
cerning an affidavit, which he haid
made when, prev:outsly examnned hy
stated that he did not recc'iec zay
ing ttiat the newspaper fund had been
raised to "pay fer his trouble.
Mr. Lyon asked if he didn't re
member that he was asked when the
affidavit was taken if it was for edi
torials, and that the witness answer
Witness said: "No. Not for edi
torials. We had nothing to do with
editorials in any way. I was an
open space to advertise if we wanted
to advertise anything." Witness
said that if he stated it in his affi
davit that it was to pay for editorals
he "sure was wrong."
Mr. Lyon then asked him if he
did not remember that when the affi
davit was taken mhe was asked if they
got him to write editorials occasion
ally, and that witness answered, "Yes.
sir. He is a dispensary man. He
always stands for the dispensary and
'always looks out for the dispensary."
Witness said he did not remember,
that if he did so, now he did not
mean in that way; that they did not
get anything from Mr. Henry, ex
cept an open space. Witness said
he must Have misunderstood when
the affidavit was taken. He said that
Mr. Ladshaw, a civil engineer, had
written one letter for the open space.
A Space Purchaser.
He could not recollect who else
wrote any. He said he was one of
the contributors to the fund. Wit
ness said he lhtad told the truth in his
affidavit so far as he understood.
That he was not a lawyer and there
were lots of words in the English
language he did not understand. He
was not perfect in the language. and
he might have made a "mis-slip up.'"
Asked how long he had been in Amer
ica. he said since 1869. Mr. Lyon
closel, examined the witness on his
affidavit, but witness continued to
thbold that the newspaper fund was
simply to buy an open space. He
had forgotten being asked the ques
tion in his affidavit: "You were
showing him your appreciation with
some money,' and answering, "Yes,
sir," and did not recall the next ques
tion, being a Christmas present, and
the next answer, "Yes, sir."
All that he knew about it now, he
said, was "we got an open space."
He was not asked about any of the
alleged bartering of offices, as he
has all along kept as close as a clam.
Smith, Head Of The Clan.
The next witness was the former
chairman of the 'board. Chas. 0.
Smith, the young man who is cred
ited withi managing the deals for jobs
and of holding :the Spartanburg sit
uation in his palms. He seemed
rather excited, quick in his articula
tion and worried. He has a good face
He himself asked to make his state
ment. and, as he is one of the per
sons attacked Ihiere, 'his defence is
I want to state, in other words.
that newspapers have saidI a great
deal abottt me. While a mernber of
the county boa'rd of contrM and
chairman for something over o,ne
year, I want to acknowledge to you
as the committee, that I have not
done my full duty. So far as the fi
nancial part of the business of Spar
tanburg county, so far as the dispen
sary 'has anytVh'ng to do with it. is
concerned, I have looked closely af
ter it the best I could. I know that I
elected Mr. Morris, and the other
members of the board, and after his
election was held. I was looking after
Mr. Morris. When I found him I
found him on Laurens street in a
house lying on the kitdihen floor
drunk, and afterwards he acknowl
edged to me that the woman that
kept that house was a woman he
wronged in Atlanta.
Morris, interposing: "T'hat is a
lie. I did not do any such thing.
Smith: You jast keep quiet. I v,ill
take you there and settle outside the
court if you will wait a few minutes.
Iam teilng the truth. You have lied
Mr. Smith. continuing b.is state
On other occasions I have gone to
that man and have taken 'him a'way
from there drunk and lugged Ihm up
his narrow steps to his quarters over
store and put him in bed, and 'taken
his money out. He tried to make me
take it, but I gave it to his wife, who.
will say. I believe is one of the best
romen in Spartanbu'rg I have held
:im in hed rhere. not oiniy one time,
ut more than that. I can't mentin
ih times I have caried him there
b.+ T hae dAne t T nderstand he
says I have been drunk. an( Zr.
Chairman. I have been pretty full, I
don't deny that. So far as this
Thompson business is concerned,
that was only a joke with Mr. Thomp
son. That is someThing I hlIave never
drawn on o man, a knife, because I
think I am man enough to handle
the majority that come along.
Mr. Sims: Why did you say you
failed to do your duty while a mem
ber of the county board? In what
respect did you fail in your whole
By not turning him down right
then and patting a man in his place.
I understand-I haven't read the
testimony-but I understand, Mr. To
land has said he sent money to me
to secure his election. When I was
first put on trat board whether
through Mr. Toiand's influence or
not. I am satisfied :ie tried what he
could and I see two of the gentleman
herethat supported me. I believe that
is all now in the court room. Wheth
er he did any good for me or not, I
don't know, but he led me to believe
he had When I put them there they
here that suported me. I believe that
were supposed to be put there as
my friends. When I was elected on
the board I told Mr. Toland I would
support him in his next election,
which I did. Now, why would I
.send to Mr. Toland for $275 when I
was going to support him anyway?
and as for sending for thie money
to give Mr. Wall, that is a lie. Mr.
Wall was not going to support Mr.
Toland under any circumstances.
Money could not have brought him
to support him. So he goes along
and he was reelected-Mr. Lanford
and myself supported him-and his
business got in bad shape and he got
behind with the county, and I would
go to him and make him pay the
county. He got behind in some way
with the state. I don't understand
his -first shortage, but it seems he
went to the brewery and they fhelped
him straighten that up. So he came
home again and started his business
and he was way behind with the state
still. He fell behind again. So hbe
was going away. I tried to work
every way I could when he was closed
up. I believe Mr. Carson, attorney
for the Atlanta Ice and Brewing com
pany, took something like 72 half
barrels and turned it over to Mr.
Huseman. That beer was sent to
~him on consignment. He was tro pay
so much a week on back indebtedness
to the state. Tha' di-d not work and
he went away to A'sheville on a trip
and tihiere was a certain woman in
this town of ill-repute (the witness
was interrupted by Chairman Hay.
who stated that :he witness need not
refer to the character of the woman.)
Helping The Dispensary.
Mlr. Smith said he was trying to
show what 'he Ijiad bden trying to do
Ifor the dispensary. Chairman Hays
said he could do that. Mr. Smith
said the woman was where 'he was
going to get the money.
Mr. Blease suggested 'that the wit
neSS oughit not 'be allowed to tell any
thng as to the virtue of any woman,
but if there was a money transaction
he ought to be allowed to tell it.
Mr. Smith: I followed her 'to the
station. and in the freight depot tried
:o get her to give me the money
which then she had, and has yet, and
robably to pay up this shortage for
him. That is my sitewardship. Mr.
Moris: I see, says he asked me for a
book of instructions, and Ithink heI
did, and I told him he ought to know
h'ow to run his place, to open his place
as soon as he could to run it as long
as he could, and to make as much
roney as ble could.
I think I wou-Jd if I had one. I
see further in the State there thatc I
was in Columbia, and he says that I
told him that I sold twelve 'blind
tigers in Columbia. My people tihat
I represent 'don't sell any-butc as
jobbers-and that is infamously
false. I represent one of the biggest
whiskey houses in the world, Fleisch
mann & Co.. of Cincinnati. T have
sold some individual p -0p.:~ in Spar
anburg for Paul Heimer, of Augusta,
but never have I sold a drop of whis
key to a blind tiger to my knowledge.
Most of them were gen:clemen and
ad an open account with me.
Chairman Hay: WVhat jobbers do
'ou sell inl South Carolina?
Mr. Smith: My people sell to :he
ta: dlispensary. sir, and no one else.
n act T dIon': know but one blind
ier in Charleston, an-d :n so far as
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