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THE LIE PASStu
By J. M. Walker and W. W.
Smoak of Walterboro.
Major Black Excserated of the Alleged
Attempt to Ingratiate Himself lato
the Favor of Representative
Walker Along with Chair
man H. H. Evan, -
At the meetirg of the dispensary
investigating committee in Columbia
Wednesday Mr. Lyon put up witness
es in the matter of tale charge that
Maj. John B- c'< ar d Mr. H. H. Evans
bad tried to Ingratiate the: s. I-s Into
the favor of the houce of repr. s;ita
tives from Colleton county.
Mr. Walker made a .emenr de
claring firmly that Maj B'eg b
had nothirg to do wirtn the tiarsr c
tion. He said that so much of it as
related to Mr. Evans and nimself was
purely of a personal nature. He denied
that he had been warned or advised
not to make draft cn Mr. Evans for
$75 to pay for a gun. He dclared in
effect tnat it would have been unnat
ural for him to have voted against
Mz j. Black.
Mr. W. W. Smoak, cashier of the
bank at which the draft was present
ed for payment, swore as positively
that Mr. Walker had connected the
names of Maj. Black and Mr. Evans
in telling him for wha purpose the
money was to be-used. Mr. Simoak de
clared further that he had pointed
out to ?dr. Walker that he was mak
ing a step which he might regret and
that, when the draft came back with
out payment because of Mr. Evan's
absence from Newberry at the time,
Mr. Walker stated to him that he was
glad that it had turned out that way
for the sake f appearances.
Before the session for the afternoon
was over, quite a lot of feeling arose
between Mr. Smoak and Mr. W ilker,
and the lie was passed. Tne marshal
of the conmittee, Mr. F. S. Strick
land, grabbed Mr. Walker, and others
held Mr. Smoak until the two wit
nesses quiested dovwn. Q iite a lot or
commotion was made, and Chairman
Hay announced that a continuance of
the disturbance wculd result in some
body being jpiled. The dispute arose
out of a matter of whic Mr. Lyon
himself knew no particulars until Mr.
Smoak told it. Mr. Lyon knew in a
vague way that Mr. Smoak knew
soniething else, and by Mr. Lyon's
handling the situation somewhatadro
itedly Mr. Smoak was prevailed upon
to testay that Mr. Waiker had told
him that Maj. Black had given Mr.
Walker a $40 suit of clothes. This is
the statement that Mr. Walker denied
with so mucht feeling.
ME. WALTER S sTATIERENT.
The first wItness put on the stand
yesterday afternoon was Mr. J. M.
Walker of Colleton, who has repre
sented that county in the house of
representatives for four years. He was
aaked by Mr. Lyon what he knew of
a certain matter, and in a frank man
ner lhe told all that he knew. He put
the whole business on the ground of
personal friendship, said that his con
science had been clear in the matter
and that he had regarded Mr. H. H
Evans, the other party of the tran
saction, as an honoratle gentleman.
He declared that Maj Black had noth
I .g whatever w co #.th edie transac
-t iall started last year, during fair
week, he said. He was in his room
at the Columbia hotel with several
,gentlemen, among them Mr. H. H.
Evans, Mr. Richard Black, a brother
of Mat. Black, Hon. E. T. L. F.tte of
Bamberg and Hon. J. E. Harney of
Barnwell. It was discussed there that
Mr. Evans would be a candidate for
reelec Ion and that Maj Black might
offer as a candidate for c p;Lc on ithe
board. The talk drifted to the subject
of all going on a hunt and he invited
them all to come down to Colleton to
go on a kunt~ with hims.
Mr. Evans asked Mr. Walker if he
llad a good gun. Witness replied that
he bad nothing but a single barreled
gun. Mr. Evans then said that he had
a good gun which he wculd like to
give Mr. Walker if the latter wu d
accept It. Mr. Walker stated that he
would be glad to have a good gun. 02
his return to his home, he received a
letter from Mr. Evans in which It
was stated that he didn't know how
to buy a gun and for Mr. Walker to
draw on him for $75 for the purpose
of buying a gun.
Mr. Lion asked Mr. Walker If Mr.
Smoak had not cautioned him wnen
he went to the barnk to make the
draft. This Mr. Waiker denied. Mr
Smoak had not said that it was high.
ly Improper and 'would appear that be
had-sold his vote. He said that he
had not beard that he had becn criti
cised by the people-of Walterboro. As
soon as he had heard cf it he had stat
ed that he would like to come before
M'-. Lyon, he said, had told him
then that he did not think that he
would x.u~h the ii qiry into this mat
ter. Mr. Lyon asked if he had not
qualfed that expression of opinion,
and Mr. Walker said that he could
not recollect it. Mr. Walker stateo
that during the session of the legisla
tore he had seen Mayor Peurifoy and
sorme other witness who had been sum
moned here from Walterboro and they
told him that they did not know for
what they bad been sommoned, hut
thought it was in connection with the
use of request bocks, and it was not
until af ter the legislature had at j urn
ed and he had gone home did he hear
why the committee had summoned
these people here from Walterboro.
WEY IT Wo'ULD HELP HIrr.
Mr. Walker then tock up the mat -
ter of the telephone conversation in
which he communicated to a member
of his family the result of the election
of members of the board of dispensary
directors. He said that the ma'i who
intercepted that message is a skulk
ine cur. He fc und that the legisla.
ture would not ar j jurn sine die until
late in tie day Saturcay, throwing
him until Monday getting home, so
he used the long distance 'phone to
notify his family. in that conversa
tion he had spoken with pleasure of
the election of Maj. Biack and stated
that It had meant a good deal to him.
in explaining this conversation, wit
ness said that the reason wby M;j
Black's election would help him Is be
cause that gentleman has so many re
latie In C111eton and Beaufort coun
ies, and as he had worked hard for'
iaj. Black's election he could expect
bem to hIIr him in bis campaign for t
olicitor. That was all there vias in 1
t and he regrets that Maj. Black's
iame has been brought into the tran
etion in this way. M j. Black had
aeen one of the most pspular men in
Dolleton county and had been mayor
3d sher.ff and he has a great many
friends, and it was natural for him to
support Maj. Black.
Mr. Walker said in reply to Mr.
Lyon that he does not know why Maj.
Black severei his connection with the
dispensary as shipping clerk and does
not know, except by information that
Maj Ba.ck was connected with U1
mar & Co. He had gone to M -1j Black
while te legislature was In session
and had ask.d Maj. B'ack did he at
that time represent them in any way
and M j. Black had replied that he
did not. Mr. Walker said he ha. done
this becauie some people were making
campaign talk to that eff-c- and he
wanted to be able to reassure Mr.
Mr. Lyon wanted to know how long
before this had Maj. Black ceased to
represEnl Uiman & Co.
BLACK S PRIVATE AFFAIRS.
Mr. Walker said he was unable to
Ray, as he was not going around pry
ig into Maj. Black's private affairs.
Fie stated in reply to Mr. Lyon that
ae knows it to be unlawful for the
dispensary to buy whiskey from a
house represented in this State by
drummers, but he denied with some
feeling that Maj. Black was a "drum
mer." Mr. Lyon tried to find out in
what capacity Maj. Black represented
the house, but Mr. Walker was unable
He admitted that he had felt glad
that the draft on Mr. Evans bad been
returned unpaid, as Mr. Evans was
away from Newberry at the time-.or
he had confided afterward to his wife
that although he had made the draf6
as between friends, still under the
circumstanczs somebody might try to
make capital out of it. He denied
making such an adm'ssion to any one
else. Mr. Walker stated positevely
that Maj. Black had nothing to do
with the gun transaction and thab
after the return of the draf t he had
never mentioned the matter to Mr.
Evans in any way.
Full ,wing the testimony of Mr.
Walker was that of Mr. Reid, mana
ger of the Bell telephone c Mae at
Walterboro. He is tne son-iniaw of
the dispenser at that place, he sc.id,
and sometimes works in the dispen
sary.'He admitted that it was through
him that the convcrsation btwe.oen
Mr. Walker and a member of nis fan
ay was made public. On tho day of
the dispensary elections there h"
been a number of inquiries at his 1,
lice to the result, as many people
were interested in Maj. Biack's candi
dacy. There had been no news uatA
Mr. Waiker called up and he told sev
eral who were in the exUnange at tae
time making inqulires wnat Mr.
Walker was saying as to the result of
the election. Mr. REed said that at
tune moment he had not thought of
any significance In Mr. Walker's say
ing that the election of Maj. B,-c -
meant a good deal to himseir, Waacer.
He had not commented on it at tee
time. Upon being questioned by Mr.
Walker, Mr. Reid said that Maj.
Black is one of tne most popular men
of Colleton county an:i that when he
was a candidate a number of Colleton
county people came up hefeto work
for him-among tuem the mayor of
Walterboro and other responsible citi
)IB SMOAX S 5TATEMENT
Mr. Lyon then pzt uip Mr. W. W.
Smoak, cashier of the Farmers' and
Meronant's banic of Waltertoro. Mr.
Smoak said thaa,.rYe transaction. had
occurred on the 17... of November Of
last year. When Mr. Walker present
ed Lhe draft for collect oa he said that
Mr. Evans and Mr. Black had promis
ed him the gun. Mr. Smoak swore
positively that he had advised Mr.
Walker that as he is just a young man
starting out in life it might not be
wise for him to make this draft.
Whether or not intended that way, it
might have the appearance of selling
his vote. To this Mr. Walker made
some kind of reply and walked away
as a customer came in the bank and
the draft was forwarded for sallection
of Mh. 87 - placed to the credit
ofM.Walker. L.ter, on the~ 29 -
of November, the draft was returnec
unpaid, as Mr. Evans was not in New
berry and Mr. Walker, so Mr. Smoak
stated in his testimony, told Mr.
Smak that he was very glad of it,
for he had been thinking of what Mr.
Smoak had said and had come to the
conclusion that Mr. Smoak was right
about it, and the matter might have
Mr. L;on then recalled that In a
conversation with Mr. Smoak some
time ago the latter had let fall some
statement to the effect that Mr. Wal
ker, in guileless manner, had told him
f something else, but Mr. Smoak was
compelled to cbserve that in confi
decs. Mr. Smnoak admitted that he
had sid something of the kind to
Mr Lyon. The latter then pu'- it up
to Mr. Smoak as a matter of duty to
tell what he knew. Mr. Smoak re
quested tbat he be not forced to dolit,
and stated that he would not tell un
less he were so forced.
WANTED IT ALL TOLD.
Mr. Hay, as chairman of the com
mittee, asked several questions to as
certain whether or. not this evidenca
would oc relevant. Mr. Lyon admitted
that he did not know what Mr. Smoak
knew. Mr. Smoak stated, in reply to'
questions, that it was a matter be
tween Mr. Walker and an cifcial of
the dispensary. Mr. Hay was about
to rule the matter relevant when Mr.
LaFitte, legal representative for Mr.
H. H. Evans, interposed an objection
that the transaction referred to must
have been between Mr. Walker and
some dispensary cffial on offcial bus
iess, and not business of a perstnal
nature with a man who happened to
e a dispensary offical.
Mr. Smoak then said: Mr. Chair
man, before I answer that question of
Mr. Lyon, let me ask 30ou this, if you
consider the question of Messrs. Black
and Evans cifnring Mr. Walker that
gun or the $75 to buy that gun as be
ig a relevant question."
Mr. Hay--Would that be a relevant
quetion. bUder the ch cumstances
related by Mr. Walker and by you
this afternoon, It is relevant. It was
a direct dealing between him and an
cler of the dispensary. Tne fact
that this man then an cm2car of the
dispensary and up for reelection would
make it revelant.
Mr. Srncak-" I fear that this is rel
evant then, Mr. Chairman."
Mr. Walker--"I would like to state
ths, Mr. Chairman, if he knows any
thing in connection with me, 1 would
like for him to tell it."
Mr. Smoak-"You absolve me from
that pledge of secrecy, thern?'
Mr. Walker-"If you know any-1
THE LIE IS PASSED.
~bfi Smdik theii c6n'inued: -' e
be mattie lI hav'd referende to, gFn
lemen of the committes, is this. Mr.
Nalker came into my bahk about two
nontb's ago and asked me about some
lotuies. He had on a suit that was not
u:.de by the tailors that I had repre
,ented for these young men. I will
state that that club is not in force
iow, and I am taking the measures
ast so. Mr. Walker said 'the suit
wtat I have on cost $40.' Now he says
John Black gave me this suit of
>lothes, and I saw him pay some tail
>r in Columbia $4., for It. Now you
better not tell that in the light of
shm gun episode.' And that is all.
Mr. Walker-''I want to say this,
In reply to what Mr. Smoak said about
6he suit of clothes. A part of what
he said Is true and a part of what he
said is absolutely false, not a tinge of
truthfulness about it. It had been my
custom of buying suits from him and
he had given me a commission off from
time to time of 10 per cent., and while
I was up here or at the time I came
oack up here about which I spoke
some minutes ago, I saw scme clothes
around here that 1 liked in a store
and mentioned it to a gentleman here
and he said that I could be saved 25
per cent. of on the suit by buying
them. I bought the suit of clothes
there at a rate less 25 per cent and
paid the money for it. I told M:.
Smoak that this suit of clothes was a
$40 suit. That much he told the truth
about. About the balance he didat
tell the truth about. That is wnat I
wanted to say.
Mr. Smoak-"Mr. Walker, did you
mean to say that you didn't tell mt
that John Blac gave you $40 to buy
a suit of clothes?"
Answer-"No, I didn't and you lied
when you said it."
Mr. Smoak-"You lie, sir."
At this there was quite a distur
bance. The marshal, Mr. F. S. Strick
land, grabbea Mr. Walker an.i otners
grabbed Mr. Smoak. Tney were very
much excited. Senator Hay causion
ed them that if they did not behave
;hey would be put in j il. The com
mittee then went into excu.ive hes
sion on other matters.
DENAIUR Z D ALCOHOL.
Congress His Passed a Bill Traking
Off the TAx.
The house ha adopted the senate
amendments as to denaturizid alco
hol and tne ui wiI become law. Bj
some Inexplilcale way we at first un
derstood tnat this bill had reference
Lo r.-JeLu.g d the Lariff. Some other
- z . into the same mistake.
Ene ol takes off the revenue tax ano
not the tariff tax. But at mnat iL is
a good measure and it is hoped that
onrough nais aiconol the Stau.?dard OLh
camany may be stuci a serlous
oluw. I is said to te superior to oil
as an fliuminant to be usea in the or
ainary lamp. A galion of it coLat
it" and burns twioe as iung. foi
motor engines it may take ne place
of gasodne. It may be manutacburea
oneaply, it is said, and Liy be made
from grain, fruit, potatoes and pro
eably from other farm products. Per
naps a new and proraole mndustry
win be opened up for farmers. First,
though, peopie will have to get ac
customed to its use. Walle all whc
will be thus benenited are doubtless
indignant at trust exactions it will
ue iund hard to get a general change
from oli to alcohol. But if 1t is so fazi
superior, safe and iatLin~g and les
costly a good maraen ought to De
opened for it in time. We agree
with the Columbia Record that it
would be the greatest pity if people
with this chance to a wat tne octopus
should neglect it, especially wrien
Laney can better themnssives hnancially
and otner wise. We hope overy body
vilil encourage the denatuaized alcohol
industry. Pronilbitionists may Dait
at the nanre, tbut they can embark In
the business withcus deserning a
principle. Such alconol Is not dunk
acle. Let's nave a aenaturizedi alco
MUsbt Fzy signale.
The following postal order, recent
ly Issued to postmasters by Fourth
Assistant Pcs:master-General P. V.
D. Graw, is of interest to all people
who receive mall on rural routes:
1. O-i and after July 1, 1906, pa
trons of the rural d li very serv:ce wrill
be required to display signals on their
boxes when they-leave mail In them
for carriers to collect, as, aft er - that
date, carri rs, when seiv ng tbeir rou
es, will not be req'uired to open and
examine any mnail boxes except those
to which they have mail to deliver
and those on which signals are dis
played to indicate there Is mall for
carriers to collect..
2. Those patrons whose boxes are
not provided with signals must attach
some device which, when displayed,
will plainly show passing carriers
there Is mail to be collected. It is not
nccessary that such device shall be
either complicated or coatly ; a very
simple arrangement will answer the
3. Carriers must lower the signals
on Boxes after making collections,
providing no mail is left therein; and
must display the signals when- they
depost mail for patrots, unless the
patrons have made request to the can
trary. . ares utb
4. The carer ut aeistructed
to promptly inform- patrons of their
routes with regard to this Order, and
you should, without expense to the
department, use such other necessary
means for informing them as will se
cure a complete urderstanding and
full compliance by all patrons on the
5. Two copies ot th.is letter are
herewith inclosed, one to be immedia
tely posted by you in a prominent
place in the public part of the post
i fie, and the other to be placed on
Row aiueh is She Worth?
If a man has the misfortune tio lose
hs wife, at d there is no member of
the family to take hei- place, he be
ins to realize that a housekeeper is a
cstly luxury. Besides, the first ex
pense or her weekly earnings, there
will be a vast differenca in the cost of
running the house, for without a par
onal interest, many of the little
c.ncmies of housekeeping will not be
praictised. A word to the wise Is euf
cient. How much is your wife worth
G you, leaving sentiment entirely out
af the question? Is she worth a wash
.ng machine, a bread mixer, a clothes
wringer, a nice carriage and a safe
orse, or a few kind loving words
Murdered *n Mongolia.
Reuben Monley of SagInaw, Mich.,
was murdered on the border of Man
olia, 400 miles north of Peking, on
eptember 2, by a Fren~ch adventurer
tyling himself as Vicomte Laverger,
mth whom he was traLveling.
Between the Investigation Com
mittee and a Witness.
WOULD N)T REPEAT
Rumors Because He Thought People
Character Too Sacred to be Hurt in
Thit Way, and He Was Ruled
for Contempt of the
The invest-gating committee ha
another row on its hands. The Stat
says as a result of having become ei
cited and used profane language I
the presence of the dispensary invest:
gating committee, Mr. W. G. Childi
president of the Bank of Columb!
and also of the Columbia, New b rz
and Laurens railroad, hag b .en cite
to appear before the committee o
the caarge of contempt.
It was apparent at tbe time tha
Mr. Childs did not mean to sho,
contempt for the conmittee, but h
meant to express very forcib .y hj
position in regard to testifying againE
certain dispensary people through tb
medium of repeating anything whic
he had beard in a joking manner an
might be taken to reflect upon th
integrity of honorable men.
Mr. Lyon was trying to get the I1
furmation so that the committe
could pass upon its relevancy. He bs
submitted the matter for the con
mittee as a whole to pass uoon whe
Mr. Childs very excitedly ex-laime(
"Well, by God, I would go to j dl N
fore I would tell these jokes, and M:
Lyon had a right to confer with n
before If he wanted to "
Mr. L ion stated that he woul
leave the matter to the committei
Mr. Hay, the chairman, atated th
Mr. Childs could be excused from ti
witness stand. The latter went ct
of the senate cta ,a'nr vowing that t
would not tell anything to refla
up.n anbAdy else if he had heard:
in a j king way.
Mr. Lyon, thinking that Mr. Chii.
had txmeeded the proprieties of ti
occasion in defving the conmittee b
fore the testimony had been insiste
upon by the committee, made the r
quett that Mr. Cnilds be made to ri
peat the jokes he had heard so as tt
committe could j .dge if they wei
relevant to the investigation.
Chairman Hay replied:
"Well, Mr. Lyon, 1 do not kno
that we should discuss this matt
any further right now. We can tal
it up in the committee and discuss
imong ourgelves-the bearing of it.
Later on the committee issued a
order for Mr. Childs to appear befoi
&te committee on Tuesdasy and sho
cause why he should not be attache
for eontempt of the committee in b
ing guilty of disorderly conduct ai
contempt in the presence of the con
mittee cn Friday, the 1st day
June, A. D., 1906 Herein fail not.
The position taken by Mr. Chilt
in refusing to repeat these rumors
not a surprise to those who knc
him. He is just such a man as wou
do a thing of the kind, and lust suc
a man as will go to jail if he continu
of the opinion that he ought not1
repeat these rumors.
WHAT CAUSED THE ROW.
The following is the testimony
Mr. Childs which lead up to t
troub'e, Mr. Lyon was examining MI
Q Have you ever heard anybri
confess or acknowledge in any wi
that they received any profits or di
Idenids arising from either the R c:
lard Distillery Company or the (I
lumbia Glass Works?
A. No, sir.
Q Now, Mr. Childs, you are in as
tive business around the city of C:
limbia here, I presume, frequently
A 1 very seldom ever leave my o
fice except to go to dinner or on bul
Q Your bank does some collectin
for creditors of the dispensary ?
A. I think so.
Q. Don's the l'qu'.r drummers
to ycur bank there or you nave
good deal of correspondence or thini
of that sort with them?
A. YEs, sir; liquor drummers con:
around when they want checks casi
.Q Have any of them ever state
than they paid any graft to anyC
these dispensary cfflcla?
'A. 1 have no recollection of an3
thing of that kind.
Q Lsu's see if you can't remember
a. IL would not be fair for me in
i ;king conversation to make a re
mrark that would rfiect upon an:
body, and I never heard anybody sa
in seriousness that they paid rebate:
Q Tell us the j akes.
A. I cannot remember the jokes
It has been four or five years ago.
Q Wnat was the nature of thos
A. I would not be able to testif
as to jokes in remarks made. I hav
never beard any remarks reflectini
seriously upon the members of th
board of centrol.
Q We want to know the nature c
the j ,kes.
A. I do not remember distinctl:
enugh to specify.
Q. You know distinctly enough I
stabe whether they wero complimen
tary or whether they were not compli
A N~o, sir; I do not.
Q You do not?
.KA No, sir.
QAnd yet you recollect that thers
were joke ?
A. Yes, sir; there always was an<
there is now.
Q. And it impressed you suffi ient
ly so remember that there was a:
kinds of j akes going on, but you can
not remember the nature of thost
A. Na, sir; I cannot remember be
cause it czdiht reflect upon somebod,
and it wou'd be unjust to reflect upo:
Q Could you remember who the
men were who were doing this joking!
A. N,, s8-; it was just some o:
those traveling men and not men wh<
would be taken on the inside.
Q. How can you reach the conclu
sion that these parties would not be
taken on the inside of the gra'ting
matter if anything was going on?
A. Because if anything was going
on the heads of the concerns would be
doing it. not the subordinates.
Q. That is the opinion that yo;
draw from the l'quor drummerm?
A. Yes, sir; I say If there was any
thing of that krinel going on tbe hadi
would not entrust it to. any of their
bordinante-dt mere- -+
know if there was anythirg goirg on
IQ anything that I was the head of I
would b. the only one that knew it.
Q. You cannot remember any of
A. No, sir.
Q. Now, Mr. Childs, this is a very
mportant matter that I am qleston.
ig you about.
A. Yes, I think it is. If I knew
.nything that would assist you in the
natter I would be glad to give it tc
Q. Espncially this matter of the
Carolina Glass company. I wish tc
s understand the matter fully and free
ly, and if I understand you, you kno,
nothing about any stock being held Ix
trust for anybody else?
Q. That you have never been I
parzy to any such?
A. No, sir.
Q. That you have not transferre
any stock for any one?
S A. Yes.
e Q. Ycu deny that without an:
Q. That you have stated everythini
- fully and freely withr-ut any reserva
a A. Ye.
Q Now, did Mr. Linahan ever dis
cuss with you the matter of graft. an
rebates and so on?
A. No, sir.
Q. He never made any statemen
to you in reference to matters of tha
0 A. N3, sir.
s Q. Mr. Childs, how many miles ar
t you president of in South Carolina?
d Q. Seventy fiv?
A. Yes, sir.
e Q How many miles of railroad ha
the Southern in the state of Sout]
A. Oti, I have no idea.
d Q. Well, sir, you have a rough idea
n A. I think five or six or seven hun
dred. I have never figured it out. C
couree I could do it.
Q How many ha&the Atlantic Coa
e A. Oh, I should think three- or fou
d hundred. May be more.
Q Well, sir; what about the -Sea
Lt A. Well, the Seabaard bas abou
e three hundred or four hundred; abou
t three hundred and fifty miles I woul
Q Now, Mr. Childs, you keep ul
I presume, with the freights that pas
over these lines, you have a generE
e knowledge on that subject of th
B freights that come into the state C
A. I have a' general kuowledge c
what comes in on. my road. I do nc
Inw ab-ut anybody else.
Q What percentage of th- disper
e sary bu3iness do you handle?
A. I haven't the slightest idea.
Q. Have you any id-m abouG wha
w your road handles at al.?
tr A. No, that would be a matter fc
, the auditing department. Ha c ul
i figure it up for you without any trot
Q. It is not a matter of belief tha
W y ur road handles the larger pfrt c
tt e freight that comes into the diu
9: nsary? ?
S A I think we ought to.
id Q You think you ought. to?
A Because we are the only Till
manite ro td 'n btitow.1, a-id it is
isTillmanite institution, and when th
Sdispensary was started every roa
~boycotted it. When the Darlingto
riot came the other rodads cnt it.
went right up to Governor Tillma
to and stood right by the administrotic
and the C. N. and L. stood right u
to it and Senator Tillman and miyse]
a are personal friends, and we hav<: bee
ie getting a big part and cught to hai
r. a big part.
Q Are you sure you are accarate i
ly those statements you have madL ?
~y A. Yes.
v. Q Are you postive of it?.
1- A. Iam. YoBDEv.:r hard of an
o- car being shipped ten or twelve mile
out of town on the 0., N. and L. ani
blinid tigers unloading the wiske;
>- from it.
,- Q Explain the sItustion.
A. If you read the papers you woul]
t. have seen where a man got killet
s- sending his wife up on that road.
Q Did you see that ?
.g A. I resd it in the papers.
Q. So that is hear-;ay ?
A. Yes; but you are making me givi
:o you hearsay.
a Q. Wont ycn give us hearsay 01
~s those j ,kes?
A. Nc; that is too sericus; I woul]
e not tell a jokd that would ftlso thi
~- character of somebody else.
Q Don't you regard that as seriou
d -tnis man getting -killed ?
>f A. That is his own fault./
Q Well, he got shot down?
r. A. He wasn't shot down; the traii
ran oier him and killed him. I sup~
? pose the ccuris will will adjudicati
;.Q Don't you know that the Sea
,borrd road paid those taxes aloni
y at the same time thia' you pade
A. Yes and did it at mysuggestior
.because I was very close along wit)
e Q I supposed you said that you pali
y A They didn't do It until I gol
e them to do it. I wanted them to bring
g that Western whiskey in here.
e Q I thought you said they protest
f A. The seaboard did protest at first
and afterwards reconsidered it.
y Q. Who were these alleged j ukes
o A. O.1, I am not going to tell you
- anything ab-.ut these jokes. I do not
.remember it dattnitaly enu.i4h to
Q Mr. Chairman, of course it is im'
possible to bring information to know
whether It le reeelant .or Irrelevant. I
e did not expect that Mr Chils woiuld
give me a conference te'ore he was
I put cn the stanid, cons~egaently I did
not go to him. I did'not know what
-be knows abnt that at all but evi
.1 dentaly he has heard something and
.t seems to me that he ought to be re
a qaired to do it.
A. Well, by God, I would go to j dl
-before I would tell the jokes; and Mr.
1 Lyon had a right to confer with me
2before if he wa.nted to.
The Chairman(Senator Hay): You
have not been required- to answer yet,
Witness: We]] I will say right now
that I ain't going to answer and, if
necessary, I think I should he allow
ed to be represented by c.unsel.
Mr. Lyon: I do not care to examine
the witness any further, Mr. Chair
man. He is with the committee.
Witness: (is he was leaving) you
know where to find me if you want
me. I am at my office, but I am not
going to do injustice to anybody.
It is easier to keep a friend than to
recover him when lost..
T . MI AcRE i
OF THE GREAT H 3Y MAKER AL- c
Some Reasons Why Our Farmers
should Try to Raise Taig a
Without apology I again call the t
attention of the readers of The Pro
gressive Farmer to alfalfa, or lucern, 0
as a forage crop and improver of the t
9ol; also as a money crop says T. B.
Parker, in last week's issue of Farm
and Ranch the statement is made I
that the first crop of alfalfa hay is I
now being rapidly sold in Texas at 1
from $12 to $14 per ton. When we c
consider that they often get'from five I
to seven cuttings annually in that e
State, making from three to five tons r
of hay per acre, it is easy to under- s
stand why interest In the crop is
Alfalfa, being a legume, especially
recommends itself to Southern ag-i- I
culture, as all legumes do, because of I
its power of gathering nitrogen from 1
the air through the agency of the e
bacteria infesting the nodules on its
roots, thus through these agencies 1
largely reducing the cost of the ferti
lizers necessary to supply plant root 1
in our soils. Legumes open a wide
field for experiment to our farmers
and offer to them great possibilities
in crop rotation and soil improve
Interest in the crop in North Caro
lina is increasing. Ten years ago the
plant was probably not known in more
than a dczan counties in the State,
and by but a few persons in those
counties. while at this time it is be
ing tried in an experimeital way in
probably half or more of the connties
in the State. The same thing can be
said of all the territory in which The
Progressive Farmer circulates. In a
few years I am confident the acreage
t in those States will be very materially
increased. Many failures will be re
r corded in these first experiments and
quite a number may q, -t the crop in
disgust, bit enough will hold on and
prove that it can be profitably grown
t to insure an increased acreage in the
t near future. The changes that are
bound to come in our methods of
farming will make It necessavy to put
in crops which will not require the
-constant cultivation that many
l Southern, crops now require.
e To illu3trate what can be accom
Splished by perseverance, I will state
that quite a number of acres were put
in alfalfa near Goldsboro, N. C., last
t spring, a $ew farmers putting in
several acres each. They had rain in
abundance and the grass and weeds
soon over-powered the alfalfa. Most
of the experimenters there have given
t the crop up as unsuited to their lands,
therefore unprofitable. Among the
r experimenters, however, was Mr
John S. Davis, who put in about one
acre, prepared the land accrding to
directions by deep plowing, liberal
t manuring and heavy liming. The
f same fate that overtook the alfalfa of
others overtook his also. The crop,
so far as alfalfa was concerned, was a
comparative failure, but he was not
discouraged to the point of quitting
In August he replowed the land, or
cut It with a cutaway harrow, and
-resowed in alfalfa the first week in
1September. The land was in fine
econhition, and within a very few datys
dhe had a perfect stand. Thie alfa
Dcontinued to grow, and Mr. D.avis
Ibegan to reap his reward the first of
lthis month in a magnificent crop of
t fmne a'falfa hay. He said It averaged
Ptwo feet high, and from the, acre he
secured three two-horse loads of the
lvery finest hay. To be sure, "one
swallow does not make a spring," nor
does one experiment establish a t..ing,
lyet It makes one feel mighty good to
have things go his way, especially
after an apparent failure, such as Mr
Davis had last year with his alfalfa.
I simply mention this to show ho e
one may- succeed with perseverance,
Iwhere with less persistence failure
Vwould be charged up against him.
Some time since in talking with an
alfalfa grower of several years' experi
ence, he said that spring Is the time
to begin the preparation of land in
tended to be put In alfalfa the coming
fall. He gave it as his experience
that all lands intended for -.lfalfa
should be prepared several months In
advance of the sowing so as to permit
the manure to thoroughly permeate
the soil an-d go through the changes
that seem to be necessary to secure a
good crop. In view of thIa, It will be
well for those contemplating putting
in alfalfa this fall t'o prepare the land
now by plowing well, mnaiuring
liberally and lin.lrg heavily, a ton to
the acre, and sow in peas. In Augusi
cut the pees off and make hay of
them; disc the land well or plow sbal
low and sow Inoculated see d. With
this management the chances will be
good to get a crop of alfalfa next 1
spring, and others to follow.
There is now be fore me an exten- I
sive report on sifalfa growing in New~ S
York in whica ev: rg exoerimnentt
shows the value cf lime. Withoait a l
single exception, the crop was heavier
where lime was used than where nc C
Ilime was used. L'me seems to in
crease the chances tor suceful in
oculation and t'1e development of the
Unless land is very fetile or already;:
contains bacteria p'eculiar to the al fat
fa plant a person nead not et x.,.et to i
grow alfalfa without Inoculation. t
That has been thoroughly demon c
strated. Notwithstanding t'e many
failures that have been reporited from I
the "cultures" sent out from Wash
ington, a- d from those bo:ught from
manufacturers. I nave great faith It.
them. In passing, 1 will say these e
"cuture s" are~ not now sent out from '
the government on dry cottaan as
formerly, but in a liquid torni, tbere
by insuring greater success .dn their
use. I have faith In the "cultures" 0
because I have succee'4ed with them, IJ
both at Hllsboro and Goldsboro. The t
acre in alfalfa grown by Mr. Davis, e
and just referred to above, was from d
treated seed and the Inocuhition Is as a
tine as I have ever seen. In January e
Prof. H. H. Blume, State Hurt cul
turist, and I visited the farm and ex
amined the alfalfa for evidences of a
cacterla. We found it in abundance. P
Prof. Hume took a few plants to 0
As with all other crops alfalfa will h
succeed in some soils better than inp
others. Well-drained alluvial soils, tj
such as some of our creek bottom3 t
that are not subject to overflow and B
are well above water, which will per
mit the long roots of alfalfa to go
down into it and get ncurishment
far below the reich of the roots of
orinary crops, are Ideal soils for al- fr
falfa, which sols with "hard pan"j
will not usually grow it succesfully.r
These alluvial soils must be elevated, dj
well drained, and free fro-n acidity. c
n- coure a geat deal of alfalfa is E
rown on solis that do not belong to
Ie alluvial class. E tech grower can
rperlment. and find cat for Wmaelf
ie adaptabiliy of his ownsull to the
Remember these things: Alfalf
mn be grown either in spring or Ir
:s fall. I consider fall sowir g pre
rable in the Cotton Btlt proper, anr
pring sowing best in the more elev
ted and cooler sections. For fa'
>wing the seed should be in by th'
5th of Septenber and in many in
Lances earlier seeding would be bet
er. For spri g sowing the land
rould be better if prepared in the fab
r early winter and the seed put In
he first of April.
The land must be prepared
horoughly by deep plowing, liberal
anuring and liming. Of course the
and must be well drained, for alfalfa
annot stand a wet soil. It is a waste
t time and money to sow a'falfa in
oor land, or on land not well prepar
d. If one succeeds the crop will well
epay for all the time and money
pent in preparirg the land.
For experimental purposes an acre
s enough for any one to begin with.
f one c-m grow an acre successfully
Le can then enlarge as chcumstanes
ermits. If a yerson does not wish
o risk an ac'e, a half acre of a quart
r of an acre will sffice.
I prefer heavy seeding, not less
ban 30 pounds per acre, thougb
nany successful growers contend tha!
wenty pounds of seed are sificient
rhe seed should not be covered- top
eep From a half inch to an inch Is
>ently deep to cover.
The Queidou or Taxatton.
The true reason for the pro-ninence
)f the tariff question and other ta
luestions lies in the fact that taxation
s always with us, go where we will
It is like a shadow that clings to us
iDtil we reach the grave. President
adison, writing to John Adams, in
818, about the discussions oi the tax
ng power in the convention which
ramed the Federal Constitution, said:
The at tempts to distinguish betweer
Legislation on the subject of taxes and
)I her subjects terminated in the dis
losure that no such distinction exist
Taxation, therefore, enters as an ele
ment into all legislation, .and is the
basis of all. If it bears equally upor
persons in proportion to their abiit3
to pay, it is just. If it discriminates it
avor of any person, corporation, 01
elass, against any other person-, corpor
tion, or class, it is unjust. A protec
Live tariff' necessarily and avowedly
makes such discriminations, and i,
therefore unjust. It can only be sus
tained upon the ground that Injustice
is right, because it results in prosperi
ty to certain individuals and corpora
Lions. Piracy, high-way robbery, ani
larceny could be sustained by the sam(
If a few men were privileged by la
to loot every ship and every city the
ould find, and rob every person the]
met, the privileged class would soor
become as prosperous as the trusts an
monopolies which have grown up undej
Lbe Dingley Tariff, and for the verj
same reason-they would get some
ing for nothing under the operation o:
law. The law in the one case would be
Lhe shelter of rugged and bloody men
and the law in the other case would be
and Is, a shelter for soulless corpora
ions and- trust magnates; with the
same general results-the accumula
ion of all wealth in a few hands. A
law licensing highwaymen, pirates ani
thieves to take all of every man's prop
rty above a certain amount in the
name of taxation, would be more di.
rect and more honest tihan the taril
law which the stand-patters are s(
The }resident is, therefore. mor4
bonest than the majority of his party
when he boldly advocates confiscatiox
is a refuge from the effects of the
Dingley tarriff, which the stand-pat
ers seek to perpetuate. And the abuse
)f power in the name of taxation,
which he proposes, violates the consti
ution no more flagrantly than the
protective tariff does. But betweei
:e two evils, the honest man wilJ
:hoose neither. Both schemes prove
y their glaring iniquties, that a grad
ates income tax, which would take
nly from those who are able to spare
~omething from their surplus revenu
~s,and only in proportion to such-abil
ty, is, after all, the only just solutior
f the Federal tax question, and, there.
ore, of all other questions of legisla
ion; there being at the bottom no dis
inction between legislation on the
ubject of iLaxes and on other s.uojects.
Nearmng the Eud.
Terrible predictions concerning
hat will happen to this poor old
arth during the next twenty-five
'ears were made at a prophetic and
~econd Advent conference last weeki
n London and while they diffaree
oewat in details, they all agreed
hat- the end of the world Is at
band, they were not quite sure
whether the final catastrophe wil
ame on May 2. or April 9, 1931, bu'
hey are quite sure that one of thesE
tes will prove to be the right one.
nere can be no doubt that the world
as nearly outlived its usefulness, the,
rpets declared. The wars and
artqnakes which have affleted l'
ecenty are p oof positive and al
ba is rrquired to fulfill th~e prcphe
es is the coming of anti-Christ, wh:
Isomewhat nkindly Identified witt
An Obj ot L-eson
The standpatters should keep their
yes on Brother Taft, he is such a
lttle American" that he hasordered
le Panama Commission to buy 20,
)0 barrels of British cement instead
patronizing the home made article,
roduced by the cement trust. It is
ue that he safed the government 37
nts a barrel, or 87A400, on this one
eal, which the trust loses over and
bove a fair profit and if he continues
2s patriotic policy the trust, that
ntrol the price of other articles used
SPanama, will lose in the same
roporton. The American consumer
cement and other trust products
ust buy on less favorable terms than
:s own government as 'ong as the Re
blican politicians refuse to revise
e tariff that protects the trust and
i A merican people continue to elect
The British ship Captain Cowell.
om Melbourne, April 21. for Coro
11, has been wrecked at S3.nta Ma
L. Twenty-two of the crew were
'owned, Ir cluding all the clfl uers ex
pt the first mate, who with three
H~av2 tor Old aide.
Is there really "n room in heaven
for an old maid,".as ,a prominent min
ister in a Northern city recently de-:
clared? Coming with the seriousness
and solen nity of a pulpit utteranee,
the assertir n, which might serve as a
passable, though ancie it. joke, be
Marriage is broadening in its ten
dencies and in its effects disciplining;
but can it entirely reform or change
the nature of either man or woman?
Women certainly do not always stay
single from choice. Singleness is not
always a deliberate sin. As society 1s
at present. the meetings which result -
in marriage are purely accidental, aiod
if the right man does not present him
self, is a woman to be blamed for not]
taking one of whom she- does rot ap
prove and for whom she does not care? 7
When.we speak slightingly of the "old
maid" we allude not so much to the
fact that she has passed her youth
without marrying as to the character
istics of the narrow life, such as timi
dity, coldness, loquaciousness or fin
ickiness which prevent comradship..
But these characteristics also apply to
many men and to. many married wo
men. By nature woman is much bet
ter than man. Angels are likened to
her, that -heaven may be brought
dowrto the level of man's comprehen
son. Thousands of old maids who,
through devotion to parents.'sacrifice -
for others or application to work, have
.permitted opportunities for marriage
to pass tht m by, are of spotless souls,
whose unselfish lives bring much of
heaven down to earth. Only the wings
are lacking to carry them to Paradise.
The preacher who would shut tnem
out of heaven either knows little about
what heaven is for, or is incapable of
appreciating what qualities fit people
for a home in that blessed place. It is
astor ishing what rot is uttered from.
the pulpit sometimes.
Good Por the souL
The Wall Street News, -which is a
reputable financial journal of New
York, and which did all it could to
defeat Mr. Bryan in 1896,.makes this
"However desirable it was to defeat
the free silver agitation in 1896. did
the end justify the means employed to
accomplish that defeat? It is not too
much to say that the money spent in
1896 to prevent the election of Bryan
resulted in political debaucher, such
as was never before experie in-the
i United States, and from which the pol
itics and business of this countryhave
not even yet recovered. It--is not far
from the truth to say that the country
has suffered more by reason of the pod-'
litical corruption of the 1896campa..".
i than it would have suffered from Ze.
iriumph of free silverr lamentable as
that would have been. Btya's tri
umph-of -free silver would have given
the markets a terrible shock, but Pry-.:
an could not have really done- much
harm in a practical way, and thecoun
try would have made a speedy Tecov
ery from the dicaster, but it will take
many years to recover from the efects..
of the political debaucher.v which has
been brought about by the abuse-Ocf
millions of dollars -in political cam
o "~ whlo were in a poition t
know say that oldMark Hana hada
corruption fund in 189*6 of $1,000),000
to defeat the people's .choice in the
election of that year, much of which
was contributed by so-called Demo
crats of the Grover Cleveland stripe::
Is it any 'wonder that the country is
still feeling the effects of the debauch
ery brought about by the use otsach a
corruption fund? An- honest opi
cot fession, like the one made by the~
Ne ws, ought to humilate the so-called
Democratic newspapers in the-South
who heiped. Mark Hanna with his six
teen mill'ion dollars in corruptIon mon
ey de feat the honest and fearless Dem-.
ocrat, William Jennings Bryan. Chick
etis will come home to roost.
SoME will see retributive justice In
the. killing of .five men by lightning at
a Sunda* baseball game at Mobile,
but;- as the Newberry Observer says,
it might have been the same if they
had been on the spot on somneact of
mercy, or if it had been Saturday or
Monday. But, all the same, the Amer
ican people are fast forgetting the
commandment, "Remember- the Sab
both day to keep it holy."
THE Charleston Post thinks it is
about time forithe dispensary investi
gating conimittee to wind up its work,
make its-final report and gave the peo-.
pe an opportunity of studying the.
situation and cast their ballots ac
cordingly. Our cotemporary must
posseses its soul in patience. The comn
mi tee will wind up when its appro
priation is spent and when it think.s
its 'reports will do the most good for
IT is just as true today i's it ever
was that the safest and most honor
able way for a man to e cure a com
petence is to do it little by little, tak-'
ing a life time for the work. The baste
to be rich and make money fast is the
economic curse of -Ameri'ca today.
Every man wants to draw a prize in
the business lottery and it is seldom -
that he is content with small savings
and safe investments.
SENATOR Bulkeley, of Connecticut,
who defended his subscriptions from
trust funds to the Republican cam
paign fund, is president of a life insur
ance company and not a fire company
as has been stated. So it was the mon
ey of widows and orphans, that this
stand pat Republican stole to help de
bauch the voters.
k'OOR old Stoessel! They are going
to shoot him dead because he surren
dered Port Arthur after a six months'
eroic defense scarcely without parall
el in the annals of war. That is the
verdict of the Bussian courtmartial.
If anything -was lef to stamp infamy
upon' the Russian depotism this act
crowns that infamy.
THE United States government Is
going after the men who 'ynched a ne
gro in Chattanooga, taking him from
the custody of the United. States
court authorities. A rule of con
tempt has been sought from the Su
preme Court by the Attorney General
nd a number of residents of Chatta
nooga have been named as the guilty
In Australia several kinds of snakes
re eaten roasted. They are said to
be equal In delcacy and flavor to th~e
finest stewed eels. An E ag!ish trav- .
eler decl-res tihe steam from the
roastirg reptiles is by no means un