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THE TIMES' PAGE OF LIVE SPORT NEWS
WITH OAK PARK TEAM
AH the football enthusiasts or
Tacoma are at Seattle today
watching th« great gridiron con
: test between Oak Park of Chicago
and Wenatohea Wish school.
Oak Park has cleaned up every
thing met thus far this 1 year.
Wenatchee lvta shown herself to
' be among i !:i- leaders in ttoa North
west but critics hardly think the
Apple Pickers, stronger than' at
least three other teams in t.it-ts
state. WenaK however, Is
not to -ik> sneered at and the con
test will be vulliable to show about
the relative strength oif eastern,
Pete McVeigh Now Wants
The Big Ones
batter up liis fists on any more
cheap 4>ugs. He wants to hit som«
-•thinß thai bus ■ re; .11 mi ion now.
Louis I .on ir has challenged Pete
to a little «rame of fisticuffs in tfhu
roped BMM but Pete scorns the
offer. He Is looking for big game
mow. His recent victory of Chick
Hudson here iuus put courage into
the little fellow and the wants to
do battle with someone now that
wHI give him reputation if he
Let's Give Mahmout a Chance
to Prove Gotch's Assertion
Ily Tip -WrlKht.
I This Is the fellow whom Franf?
Qltch declares Is the best heavy
weight wrcstlej of them all.
Ootch outilil to know; ho has beat
• n the bunch.
i It la. not strange, but Interest
ing to those who keep tab on the
rough work of the promoter*, that
Mahmout in not si yon another
chance at the real stars.
Last year, it may b« recalled,
Malunout nut Zbyslko twice. The
first win 11 h.unli, ip match. In
which the Bulgarian waa to topple
the Pole In one Jiuur After work
ing the puhlii- Into v mur-frenzy
with the bluff that they wire to
meet In private, they consented to
- let the public give up eood money
to watch them. - v *
| The result was th it Malininui
didn't throw Zbyszko. It In doubt
ful If he really triad. Hut ho
thing- looked so exciting that when
a return match was announced,
the public waatlcklod. That's a
weakness the putflli* displays oc
casionally. ' The pair met and
Zbyszko. won. although those who
have accn Mahmout upon other oc
casion* could not understand how he
managed to let his hu?o opponent
to turn the trick.
' But Zybszko was due to win. He
' was to meet Gotch later, bo could
not be defeated.
. Later, when Gotcu was talking re
tirement, the men near the top of
■ the gam« decided Dr. Holler would
-be the next champion. Us had been
with Got eh, and having a noodle,
was supposed to have* picked up a
, lot of Inside stuff. Holler was no
nutty over this championship thing
I that the squirrels barked every
time they got near him, and he fell
for the bunk.
; But Muhmout settled the Seattle
nan's aspiration*. A lot of peo
ple Imagined Roller was due to beat
< Mahmout, and when the Bulgarian
put on the work the fact that
I Roller had been crossed out was ap
parent to good Judges of physlog-
I noray—the wise guys showed their
surprise so plainly.
■; Now, whether It la because he
< tossed "Roller _ when ho wasn't In
. tended to, or because he Is really
th* best of them all, ns notch In
• sists, Mahmout Isn't getting any big
< matches these days. Someone id
I preventing his appearance where
the kale grows fast. I
M If Mahmout is the /*>? at wrestler i
In the country, th« public, which
BASEBALL WRITERS VOTE
OLD OFFICERS INTO OFFICE
BBC. TREAB. .W G WEART. PRES. JOB JACKSON.
Only an Infant hi years, but a'
• giant -An..- stature, ,; i the ;. Baseball
Writers' association la ', one of the
■ powerful . Influences ©it I baseball.
'',' It j was 'due \to ■ the"; association
that a few sensible change* In th«
mips were made last year and It
! I »!>ntilf> other changes 'will i be
mAd o: next - mont when ' tine nil
and western high sdhool font lull I.
be Ohlc&so lads went throng i
practice Saturday at Seattle mid
the SeatU« enthusiasts looked on
with considerable admiration.
Just how much of thle admiration
was due to the jvivunco reputation
of the team remains to be Been to
* Oak Park Is about three pounds
heavier to th« .man than We*
natchee and is more evenly bal
anced. Wt.:\jt< certainly has
some stars that will -probably out
.shlno a.nyt;h!r ; from Chicago but
whether they will have the team
work -remains to be seem. I
Loniw Anslin Is trylnß to B<"t
Itattlhie; Xr'.-ni to oome km and
give McVeigh Ijattle.
McVeigh was sparrln.j; partneT
with Ad Wolgast before he trim
| mcd up tie Dane and McVeigh
■ says if Wr'^ast can trail nee the
I Battler why 'he can, too. If he.
fails to induce Nelson or Home of
tins other big one* to come to Ta- 1
coma 'he will so to California In
the spring and try to do something
Is so keen to spend . Its money,
ought to demand that he 'ho given
a crack at Zbyqzko and llacken
schmtdt, without having Ills hands
I Wouldn't bo surprised, basing
my opinion on what I have Been
Mahmout do, what I have been
told by men close to the wrestling
throne and from what Ootch says,
that if he is given a chance Man
mout can make both ITackcn
; schmldt and Zbyszko look like SO
rents Hex With a hole through the
(■ommitbee meet*. i .. o
,r; ; At the v annual meeting, held
in t New * Y«ri<\ whan < th« Na
tional ' and American leagues were
meeting. A President Joe . Jackson ]
of Washington waa re-«loct«l and i
Secretory W. G. Weart iof Phila
delphia .: was I not s only ■ re-elected, 1
but elected to the office of treas
urer as well. |
A Question of "Rats in the Garret"
BASEBALL MEN'S IBEAS DIFFER
ON HOW TO INCREASE BATTING
Baseball club owners and man-]
agers have their own ideas about
Increasing batting. Some of them
want the number of balls reduced
to three; others want the foul
strike rule amended; it Is also sug
gested that the pitcher he placed
farther away from the plate, and
some believe that the game Is
nearly perfect as it (stands.
The Times has asked the opin
ion of several managers and club
owners, and replies have been re
ceived from eight. What these
men think of the problem is told
in their own words. „
It will be noticed that promi
nent baseball men i<ll over the
country generally l|m with Mike
Lynch, the robust. manager of
The Tigers, who would like to see
several changes in tho rules.
BY MIKIO LYNCH,
Manager, Taroma, X. W. Leaßiie.
How to increase baiting is some
thing that lias teD bothering
baetbail men for a long while. |
The public likes to see plenty of
work with the stick and baseball
men want to give, the fans what
they want. I think there would
be an increase in batting if the
foul rule was changed or abolished
altogether. Of course, tbis might
hurt the buuters some, but they
could get used to it. If they
would set the pitcher back a few
feet I think things would improve,
too, but tfiat would" be hard on a
pitcher. However, most players
arc-u't pitchers, by the way, and
the pitchers could accomodato
themselves to the new distance
without trouble. Reduce Hie num
ber of balls, too. There'll be
more stickwork if three balls walk
BY T. C. -SANDY" GRIFFIN,
Owner Syracuse, N. V., S. League.
I think if the foul strike rule
was cut out there would be an in
creaso in batting. A batter is
handicapped when he makes two
fouls. Another good thing would
be to cut out the spitball.
RY CLAUDE H. VARNBLL,
iwner Fort Wayne Central L-eag
The mibstltution of three balls
four would force the pitchers
to "Kroove"' the bull and result in
BON long, clean hits and better
bunting. It would also hurry the
game by abolishing th« long waits
while pitchers are "working" the
BY 808 QUINX, "
Secretary CoTuiubiu? American
The fewer changes in the rules
the better for the same. This
applies to the agitation for more
batting. You hear cries for more
batting, but you'll notice the close
games hold the rapt attention of
the spectators. The most plaus
ible method to increase batting
that 1 huve heard of is to cut the
number of balls to zhree. This,
however, would reault in more
passes, and nothing is quite so dis
gusting to a crowd.
BY U I). SMITH,
Owner Terre Haute Central
League Club. j
I suggest, that in order to in
crease batting, th« patcher bej
moved back. Ido not recommend
that be be moved more than five
feet, however, as it would entail
too much of a hardship on the
boxmen to ask them to work
from too great a distance.
BY R. F. KJNSELLA,
President Springfield Olub,
Three I League.
I am unable to suggest a way
to Increase batting. 1 am of the
old school and believe batters are
born, not made. I oppose the
abolition of the foul strike. To
abolish the rule would, in my
opinion, hurt the game, especially
In casea where teams have a uuiu-
THE TACOMA TIMES.
Iber of good bunter9. jFojir
strikes might help some, bjit I
believe the rules are stisfactofy
to the public.
BY JOHN' MORRISSEY,
1 Manager LaiisclnK Club, Southern
There are two ways to increato
batting. One is to elimlnat* tho
' spit ball, aud the other towbol
'|lsh the foul strike. The first may
■ como of itself, but it Is qmstioß
' able If the fans will stand fos the
1 latter, as it would slow uu» th«
game. There is no way to in
crease tatting without taking
1 something from the pitcher, and
; every rule that has been adopted
to that end has really worked to
! big advantage.
Owner Omaha Western League
Use a livelier ball, set the pitcli
er back to tho middle of the dia-
Pertinent Sport Paragraphs
WAS I INSANE?
Harry Thaw Jfrank Chance
Bat Nelson Jim Jeffries
Bob (.'hauler Jacques de Beaufort
T. R. liUpton
How the mighty have fallen! Charlie Carr is to manage Utica,
in Ihe New York State league.
With Ebbetts off, the schedule committee is a sure cure for
long-drawn-out base ball season next year.
Wonder will the Carnegie peace fund commission use the major
portion of the fund to keep marital or martial peace?
He Owns the Doves.
for a Few Minutes
JOHN P. HARRIS. "_ I
John P. Harris Is temporary
owner of the Boston club of the
National league. Harris purehks4d
former owner Dovey's stock., ..bfct
will sell out to W. H. Russell Of
New York and L. C. Page of Bo
ston. It is said that $40,000,haa
.already been paid to Harris, leaI*-
ing $70,000 to be paid. This, wlj!
give Russell Mid (Page 95 percent
of th« stock, v v I
JENNINGS WONT :
•WIbKESBARRE, Pa., Dec. 26.
—That Detroit would trade 'Ty
Oobb, its star outfielder, 'to the
Washington Americana for Pitch
er Walter Johnson, was denied to
day - by ' Manager Hugh Jennings.
Jenninigs ridiculed | the .report| and
said ' r"rvat the ■ Dctrojt i fans would
lynch Ihim If 'ho let Oobb go. •
iiniiid, or change the Etrlke and
ball rule to three and three, and
more batting will follow.
The use of a livelier ball is the
best suggestion,-to my mind. I
am opposed to any change in
rules. In the Western league we
used the liveliest ball made last
season, and as a result had more
.200 hitters than any league in
the country. This makes the
games more interesting to tho
fans, and I believe would improve
the game everywhere. Good, clean
hitting enlivens a gamo greatly. .
BY JAMES C. McGILL,
Owner Denver Western League
The public likes to see batting.
My idea to increase suck work is
to reduce the numbor of balls.
I/et three balls waik the batter
and you'll see more hitting. It
may be hard on pitchers if the
number of balls is reduced, but
they'll soon get used to it.
Fred Lake to Lead
BOSTON, Dec. 2 4. —With «he
change orf ownership of the Bos
ton National and St. Louis Amer
ican league clubs, It Is said 1 Fred
I^ake will become manager of the
western team. Lake la at present
manager of the Boston club, tout
is to be succeeded by Fred Tenny.
"Where Good Fellows Meet"
Downstairs, Berlin Bldg., 11th and Pac.
Tales of Great 'Uns
Wiben Bill Armour, then man
oxer of the Cleveland - team and
owner of the Toledo club, went to
Burlington, la. and plucked Geo.
Stovall from t.he bushes, he grab
bed a ycnr.?-'er all ready to break
into the iblg league. ' And the
streak of blue fire Stovall 1-eft be
hind him is still remembered.
The old tlm©rs-<ta' the Nap pay
roll, Lajcle and Bradley especial
ly, d.'iin't treat t'h>e recruit very
well, at first. Strange to cay, for
men who could ahoot a ball M|M
the infle'.d and hit a man's glove,
they took to thipowing wild, mak
ing it difficult for the bis first
baseman to «et the ball. The im
pression galne.3 ground that the
vets were trying to iihow up the
kid and the crowid :?ot after them.
On the way from Burlington to
Cleveland Armour Imipresr.fd four
vit*l points on Stovall. What .he
said to him was:
"Always .get the ball before you
get the bag; the bag is no good
without the 1»a'..1.
"If you have to step away from
the baig to take the tlhrow, do it;
never let t&H ball get by for the
sake of keeping your foot on the
"Every time yo<u .hit the ball
run bt out, no matter how small
your chance of reaching first aihead
of the ball may be.
"iXeep talking all the t.time you
are in Mie game. Never mind what
you talk about, jnst keep youv
.taw working; have something to
say all the time."
Stovall obeyed. He became one
of the .best fielding first base
men in the- business. He still goesj
to first like a colt and he is one
Camp Cooking for Boy Scouts; Things You
Must Know to Qualify for Higher Honors
By O. Ij. Gilninn.
It's about time s>ome of you
scouts began thinking about quali
fying for a higher scout rank.
Scouting, you know, runs in
grades—tenderfoot, second class
scont and first class scout. After
you have made first class you will
be allowed to qualify for any of the
many honors, such ns ambulance
man, aviator, bee-farmer, tfugler,
cook, electrician, farmer, fireman,
horseman. Marksman, pathfinder,
photographer, printer, signaler,
You have already be«n told how
Ito qualify yourselves for tender
To deserve the honor of a aec
ond-ciass scout badge you must:
•Have at least one month's ser
vicn as a tenderfoot.
♦Know elementary first aid and
♦Have an elementary knowl
edge of signaling in either the
Morse semaphore or wig-wag
♦Be able to track half a mile
in 25 minutes; or, if you live in
a citx. describe satisfactory the
contents of one store window out
of four, observed for one minute
♦Be able to go one mile In 12
minutes at the "scout's pace."
♦Lay and light a fire using not
more than two nvatches.
Cook a quarter pound of meat
and two potatoes without cooking
utensils other than the regulation
' Have at -least 25 cents In a sav
Know the 16 principal points of
When you come to look theso
over you will find that you know
many of them already. Those
marked with a star have already
been explained In these articles.
The compass diagram will show
you the sixteen points of the com
pass which you are required to
know. Now I'm going to give you
a few hints on cooking.
The "billy" mentioned in the
rules is an English 'term for a
compact cooking kit, conalsting of
a cup, stew-pan and boiling pan.
So far as I know, "billies" aren't
made in this country. Anyhow,
a quart lard pail carefully cleaned,
a small steel frying pan, a tin cup
and a goodsized spoon are all the
cooking tools you want.
You don't need any of them to,
cook meat and potatoes. Whon;
you havo a good bed of red-hot!
embers under your scout's fire,
J>nrv your potatoes in them to
bake, taking care that they are
protected from live coals by a_thin
covering of dead ashes, and" are
entirely covered from the air. You
can roast meat by running a stick
through it, holding it far enough
from the fire bo that it will not
scorch, and turning the stick
round and round.
Boiled meat, the adage says, Is
'spoiled meat, ■ but you can beat
of the gabbiest inflelders playing.
He is one seasoned veteran who
never forgot ihis manager's .in-
structions —and that's why tbrM
or four American league clubs
want to % take him at almc^t any
When Riu.be Waddell was burn-
Ing up the American Imbw far
Connie Mack In Milwaukee^ which
was before the team was trans
ferred to Philadelphia, he male
(iba wise one sit up and take notice
The Brewerp wore playing the
first of a double-header and At
went 17 Innings' before Wade.ll
finally beat the White Sox, who
we're .playing against title foam
blowers. ' '
- Waddell looked so good in that
first game that Mack decided to
use him In the second, and v said,
as the big fellow walked to the
lenoh, .hot and flushed:. "Ru.be, do
you think you can work in the
"Don't know until I .get warm
ed u;>," announced the left-hand
ed freak, as he grabbed a towel,
amd mopped his face.
In 1904 wihen the going was
rocky for the Athletics, Rmbe
Waddell, Bitting in front of the
hotel in Now York one evening,
-announced to several newspaper
men: "They say virtue Is its own
reward and 1 guess it is a fact.'*
! "How's that, Rube?" ane of the I
cor respondents asked.
"Well. I promised Connie I'd
"beihave this season and I've kept
my word so far, but I ain't win
ning half las many games as when
1 I was working both sides ol the
this game if your meat is bpof.
by waiting for the water in your
pot to boil before you drop it In.
This keeps must of the meat Juices
in. Then wait until a jab with
your sheath knife tells you It is
done. You can boil your potatoes
along with the meat. This is slow
but an excellent way to cook in
a permanent camp.
Your frying pan offers you a
quick iiiciil on the hike. Greasy
meat will fry in its own fat. But
all meat isn't greasy. So make
a good fat strip of bacon rind a
permanent part of your cooking
outfit. Rubbed over the inside of
a hot. frying pan it will supply
plenty of frying grease.
Peeled and sliced thin, your po
tatoes will fly finely along with
The best way to be a good camp
cook is to hang around the kitchen
Ijjfllfo NONE BETTER
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ROELER IS TIEED
AND WANTS A REST
" Dr. B. P. Roller, the Seattle
doctor-wrestler, says he Is "all
dragged cuC and he Is goln<g to
take a good long rest. Ho lias net
the fa!.nte«tj'dea that ■!)« !s out ©X
the wrett'-ing >;anie. -Doc neve/
could; see why he should not M
a real champ. But he admits that
he is temporarily .done for. Ho
.aye he has been touring tihe coium
try and going at such a clip (that
he is completely enervated and Is
easy fot 1 the .-ecar.d raters. H«
•will r?st up and then go in the
game again and try to-get to tie
Former Stars vs.
Can the old basket ball stars
"coiue back"? •
That will be dtveided Friday
night when former stars.in the lo-
CM Y. M. C. A. and high school
teams will tackle the present Y.
M. C. A. team at tlie association ,
The oldtimers aro home fining
college now and a game has beelS
arranged. Of the old star team?
will be Bert Cook. Karl Staatz, ,
Bob Haddow, Collier and Jlere
dith. Tho regulars against tlu'in
will be Mill, ('rain, Morton, .'agger g
of Bowbrs Starts
"Fa-coma bowlers will have a big
1 week during the lioliday.s In
addition to the Bankers' league,
which will have three games this
week, the Commercial league
will begin its schedule wihitih is to
nan away into next spring. The
1 play In this leaigue will- open with
| the Pioneer Bindery and West
j Oast Grocery coimpan^ teams.
China raises about hnlf or the
worlfl's tea. The total iiroduetion la
estimated at 1,200,000. pounds.
BOY SCOUTS SHOULD STUDY
COOKING SCENE CAREFULLY
, TO TAKE IN'ALL ITS POINTS,
ALSO THE COMPASS—FOR THE
SAME REASON. .
and see how your mother does it
And whjle you are hanging around
you might aa well bring in some
wood and water, empty the ashos, *
and either wash or wipe the
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