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THE ST. PAUL GLOBE.
VOL VII
THE COMING MAN!
A Careful Estimate of the
Character of President
elect Cleveland-
Several Kindly Disposed Persons
Form Him a Cabinet
Free of Charge.
Dorman B. Eaton and Judge Tboman, !
of the Civil Service Reform Com
mission, Express Themselves
in Cleveland's Favor.
The Defeated Candidate, in a Lengthy Inter-
View, Says Pointedly that He Would
Have Been Elected If It
Hadn't Rained.
Prominent Republicans Spending . Their ;
Spur- Time in Explaining How Their
31 an Didn't Get Vole* Enough.
So.trrtf Colliding Lihrlif to be. Upturned t»
the Senate— Tin- Urn Id ynilr.M ft ant
a Cabinet Petition.
Th« Next President.
| Special Telegram to tbe Globe.]
Albany, Nov. 16. — The fact that Cleve
land bad been elected has been so thor- '
oughly established in men's minds here for
the last three days that when the final an
nouncement came it caused little excite
ment. At the state house Gov. Cleveland
has been attending to his business as U6uul,
to all appearances the least interested of all
around him in the result. Col. Lam on his
secretary, has been constantly in receipt of '
telegrams announcing the progress of the j
canvass. • The results he would I
from time to time announce to ■
Gov. Cleveland, who would simply j
nod bis head iv silence and go on with bis
routine work. While all around him were •
anxious and excited, he showed no feign of
interest in anything save his duties as gov
ernor of New York.
THE EXECUTIVE CITAMIIEU
in the new capitol at Albany is a most com
modious and extremely handsome room. It
Is richly furnished, ■ decorated with life size
pictures of historic citizens of New York,
and is one of the sights of Albany wire it not
that it is Gov. Cleveland's office, but now
that it Is daily occupied by the president-elect
Of the United States, the first executive elected i
by the Democrats in twenty-lour years,
it is doubly an object of interest.
At a large desk at the northern
end of the room sits Gov. Cleveland. His
office hours are from 10 a. m. to 4p. in.,
and so far during all the excitement of the
campaign he has hardly missed a minute
from his desk. He is a man about five feet,
eleven inches in height, weighing 250
pounds, compact and muscular in build and,
to all appearances, both mentally and phys
ically strong. The pictures of him shown
during the campaign are in the main cor
rect likenesses, but they fail to show the ex
pression of his eyes, which . are clear, bright
and fearless. He is always dressed
in a black Prince Albert coat and
black pantaloons, and his sole neckgear Is a
black silk ribbon. In manner lie is ex
tremely easy and cordial, in no way arrogant
or conceited, has not the slightest trace of
what is known as the "big head," and his
every appearance is that of a successful busi
ness man at the head of a large establish
ment, who has much to do but is yet
. CALM and SELP-IIELIANT,
under tbe consciousness of being thoroughly
competent to perform his work quickly and
well. He has none of the pretenses of a
vain man, none of the hesitancy of a weak
or blundering one. He is entirely free from
■elf-assumptions of any kind and his manners
are those once described as being "The best
because you noticed no manners at all."
Day in day out his office is crowded. The
door swings wide open and all who please
can enter. There is no guard at the en
trance, no flunkeys around. The governor
is always Democratic and as easy of access as
a hungry lawyer anxiously waiting for a fee.
In and out the crowds go. ! Some of the vis
itors are his friends come to see him, most
of them strangers anxious to look upon the
next president. To all of his acquaintances
he has a greeting and a handshake and
pleasant words for any stranger who wishes
to speak to him.
NO INTRODUCTION
is thought necessary, and tbe different
Etations in life of bis visitors seem to make
no difference in the kind of greeting given
them by the governor. A large part of the
visitors are women, and they wander around
the room, look at the .pictures, admire the
furniture and fittings and constantly glance
curiously at the quiet man working so indus
triously at his desk. Now that the excite
ment of the presidential electioa is in a
manner alloyed by a knowledge of the result
the minds of the politicans are turning to
other things, and the main question asked
here is: Who will succeed Lapbam in "
THE UNITED STATES SKXATK.
There seems to be great unanimity of
opinion on one point, and that is that Lap
ham will not, but outside of that all is specu
lation. To properly understand the situa
tion here it must be known that the fight be
tween the stalwarts and the half-breeds that
has been smoldering for years has now I
broken out stronger than ever, and it will
be an impossibility to elect any Republican
without the aid of Democratic votes who
Is prominently identified with either faction.
The complexion of the leglsla- )
ture -^ is not yet fully decided, |
owing to numerous contests, but the
gen will probably be a tie, and the Repub
licans have a small majority in the bouse,
giving them the legislature on joint ballot.
The Stalwarts have a fair proportion, almost
if not half. Whltelaw Reid was understood
at one time to be a candidate, but the stal
warts will have none of him, and now that
Blame ie defeated, as the Half Breeds de
clare, by Stalwart votes, they are defiant and
inclined to be dictatorial. Repoits come
from Washington that President Arthur de
sires to continue in public life, and could be
led to accept the senatorebip, but the Half
Breeds say be gave Blame no support, and
they" will now punish him for it. If .
BOSCOB COSKLIKO
will accept the position he can have it, as the
stalwarts will vote for him and so will the
Democrats, a thing they will not do for any
»ther Republican. It may, of course, happen
that in the course of time the present bitter
ness between the two . factions of the Repub
licans may partially heal up, but it seems
hardly likely In view of tbe fact that there is
no Blame in the White house to apply the
soft oil of federal offices to their hurting
lores. The half breeds say openly that the
"italwarts beat Blame and ; in view of
the fact . that ; : Oneida /• ;■;. J. county,
Onkling'e home, ■- v gave;:, || Cleveland
a majority where It gave Garfield' 4,500, that
none of the Grant family and none of the
Frelioghuysen family .voted for i Blame and
that ! prominent Stalwarts. ' all over the state,
Daily (Klnbe.
either stayed away from the polls or voted
for Cleveland, they have some reason In
their madness. In fact, were it not that the
Blaincitcs ere dividing their curses between
the Stalwarts, the Independents, tbe Prohib
itionists, the national committee and Rev. ,
Dr. Burchard, they would probably become
altogether frantic when a Stalwart's name ■
was mentioned. Tbe latter, however, are
cbeerfuliy complacent and make aid? re- i
marks about Folder being avenged. In '
regard to tbe formation of -
CLEVELAND CABIXKT.
there is of course much gossip, but no
news. All is conjecture, and no one knows
except Cleveland and be wont tell. Indeed,
it is ridiculous to think that he has yet made
up his mind. It i* known, of coarse, that
the south wants the postoffice and the attor
ney general's office, and that it is generally !
conceded that it Is a moderate demand. The '
treasury department will go to New York
state and the remaining positions ne dis- '■
tributed around. McDonald, Bayard,
Thurman and McClellan are all talked of and
are prominent candidates. If the postofHce
goes to the south. Reagan, of Texas, may •
get it unless the fact that he was in Jeff
Davis' cabinet raises too great a bowl among .
the bloody shirt wavers. As stated above !
the matter is as yet entirely one of guess j
work and will remain so for some time. The !
principal business of the Republicans just '
now is figuring out
HOW THE THIXG WAS DONE.
As Bail before each BM has some particu- '
lar element which be blames, be it the Inde- '
pendents, the .Stalwarts, the Probitilllonists, ;
or the Rev. Dr. Burcbard. The Delmonico j
supper comes in for its share of
cursing, but the one thing that all
New York Blame men unite in condensing
is the Republican national committee.
When John I. Davenport said that Elkins
did not have ability enough "to run a tramp
lodging house in the Bowery with any hone
of success," be voiced the unanimous sen
timent of the defeat (1, and Mike Organ
touched a responsive chord when he
declared that they were "all '»'
set of chumps." As near as it
can now be figured out, the national com
mittee gave up New York early in the fight,
and planned to curry Indiana and Connecti
cut, thus electing Biain'e without this sUte.
Accordingly the committee took all the
money away from here to invest it in other
states, and now that the plurality is so small,
and it is evident that 120,000 judiciously ex
pended in the city on election aitemoon
would have changed the result, tiie wrath of
the defeated is perhaps justified.
Cleveland and Civil Service Reform.
Wasihxutox, Nov. 10. — Tbe views of lion
Dorman B. Eaton, president of the civil
service commission, in regard to the prob
able effects of Cleveland and Hmd ricks'
election upon the maintenance of the civil
service law, Lave, beeu obtained by a repre
sentative of the associated press, and «arc i
given in the following report of the Inter
view:
• Question. — "You are from New York, Mr.
Commissioner, and know u;i.il Gov. Cleve- ■
laud has done there for civil service reform.
Please give the associated press the facts and
your views as to what Le Is likely to do rela- j
tive to removals and to the civil service act
and rules."
Mr Eaton— These are very delicate ques
tions for one in my position to answer." I
have taken no part whatever in the late cam
paign. I have not the least right to assume
to speak for Gov. Cleveland or bis party. J
Haviug acted with the Republican party from
its origin, I can hardly speak without some
party bias. Nevertheless, 1 will frankly tell
you what I think. We shall have an admin
istration absolutely Democratic in policy, but
whether with a member of the cabinet repre
senting those without whose votes the Demo
cratic party would have failed, 1 will not
guess. But the civil service act will not be j
repealed, either at the coming session
or during this generation. Gov. Cleveland's
party would oppose any attempt to repeal it,
Republicans as a body would resist, and the
senate would defeat such an attempt. The
rules will not be abolished. They will be en
forced under tue new president, but not, I
fear, with 6Ueh enlarging breadth of applica
tion and. such moral support from the party
in power as would hare been the case cer
tainly bad President Arthur been re-elected,
and probably had Mr. Blame succeeded. The
disinterestedness and patriotism of the^oun- |
try are not very equally divided between the !
great parties, but, in my opinion, my party
has much the larger part of the intelligent
conviction which has thus far supported
civil service reform. Great numbers of
persons in the Democratic ranks an- so prej
udiced and uninformed on tbe subject that
they will clamor for removals for the sake of
patronage. They do not comprehend that a
party which could only elect its candidate by j
the aid of the Republican friends of reform
has no chance if it alienates those friends in
the future, when they are sure to be far more
numerous and powerful than now. They
still believe in the old proscriptive spoils
system, not comprehending that it is
doomed, and caring more, as do many Re
publicans also, for a four years' saturnalia of
spoils than for all the future beyond that.
A great struggle in the Democratic ranks
over the issue of reform is, there
fore, certain . The statesmen of the party,
Bayard, Pendleton, Garland, Carlisle,
Randall, Cox, Morrison, Tucker, Hewitt,
Willis, and others, each of whom has already
spoken and voted for the civil service act, ]
will stand by the new president in its sup
port, but many worthy Democrats, and all
the demagogues, spoilsmen and rabble of the
party will be against it. Republicans will
stand together for the act and the rules, an
xiously waiting for the Democrats to rule
themselves. The president will lead the re
form element of his party, and bis clear con
viction, high sense Of duty, his courage and
bis strength of character will secure victory
There is no public man in this country who
has a higher sense of bts moral obligations i
in official life, ' or who is
more certain to withstand mere partisan
and selfish appeals than Gov. Cleveland.
This is a great element of power, and popu
larity, too, as the people now feel, and lest
my motives be misunderstood let me add
that he has never done me a favor and that I
could neither ask nor accept one at hi*
hands. Many officers outside the rules and
some within will doubtless be removed for no
very good reasons, but, so far as possible,
Gov. Cleveland will prevent mere 1 political
proscription. He cannot attend to every
thing. Much will depend on the members
his cabinet and especially on the postmaster
general. If there are. as is charged, some:
officers who have used their influence to en
orce assessments and neglected their duties
and violated the proprieties of their stations
to engage in party warfare, . the fate they
have challenged may very likely await them.
If persons are to be selected for public work
irrespective of politics they had better attend
to that work and not meddle with the elec
tion."
Question — "What has Cleveland done in
New York to warrant this estimate «f Wait' 1 .
. Answer — "Buffalo was a . city almost as
partisan, lawless and badly governed as Cin
cinnati. .Upon ' being made sheriff Mr.
Cleveland exhibited those , qualities which
are being more and more needed and ap
preciated by the people.' T^ey comprehended
M.PAUL. MIXN. MONDAY MORXIXG, NOVEMBER 17. 185-L
and approved bis spirit He was elected
mayor by votes from both parties in that Re
publican city. His life as mayor vu a con
tinuous struggle for honesty and fidelity in I
office against the Jobbers, spoilsmen and I
partisans, who bad long preyed on that city.
He mastered the situation and became known
as the Teto mayor. Hi« fearless way of deal
ing with them is shown by the language of
his vetoes." :
Commissioner Eaton has quoted from
Cleveland's messages, from his letter accept
ing the International nomination and from <
otber commnnlcations to bow his decisive
and unequivocal endorsement of the civil
service act, and pays a high tribute to the
honesty and on partisan business capacity of
Got. Cleveland as evidenced in his admin
istration of the affairs of the state of • New '
York, and continues as follows:
"The rapidly growing reform sentiment of [
tbe country has been demanding more hon- !
esty, courage and administrative capacity i
with less politics In executive places. Gov. '
Cleveland has tbe distinction of being !
tbe first/..' man since Washington who
has been elected president because he pos
sessed these qualities in a prominent degree.
They have advanced him more rapidly to tbe
head of tbe nation than military glory ever
did any one of ber favorites. To believe that
such a man, witb suet a history, who never
sought an office, will come to the national
capital to repudiate his pledge* and all that is
best of lit official life, to make hostile all the ;
Republican Journals which now support him,
to ruin tbe prospects of his party an 1 disgrace ,
himself and bis country by overturning a '
work of reform kindred to that upon !
which his own distinction rests only to se- (
cure a free field for pjtronage,mongering and ,
spoils system and debauchery, that such an
assumption should be made by aoy sensible,
well-informed man is to me simply impos
sible. If lam mistaken In this view, I hope
the rules will be utterly overthrown before
the March winds are over. If the Democrats
enforce tbe spoils system policy they must
take the consequences. No true friend of
reform would have any part in a perfunctory
and deceptive enforcement of the rules
mutilated in essential parts. He would
rather await their certain resurrection four
years hence over the graves of their enemies.
JUDGE THOMAX SPEAKS.
The views of Judge L. D. Tboman, the
Democratic member of the commission, were -
aJso obUined on tbe same subject discussed ;
by Mr. Eaton.
♦'What do you think will be President
Cleveland's policy as to civil service reform I"
was asked. .
"I do not know, but it would seem that
his past public utterances and acts are a
sufficient guarantee that bis policy will be
conservative and in thorough sympathy with
the present civil service laws and rules."
"Will there be many removals of govern
ment officials from office <"
"Ye*, sir; and many will remain. lam
satisfied that thorough administiative reform
will cause, the removal of many officials
wbo»e places need not be filled, and .If a
pulley la purnucd by which the business of j
the government will be conducted on busi
ness principles, the biennial reg
ister in two years from now
will contain several thousand - less
names than it does to-day. As to disturbing
subordinates in these public offices, much
will depend upon the beads of departments,
bureaus and divisions, and also upon their
efficiency in the places they occupy. There
never has been such a thing as a 'dean
«<•<■[).' Tbe power of removal is not
abridged by the civil service law, but places
made vacant cannot be filled within the
classified service without a requisition on the
commission. Thus it is that tbe mo'.ive for re
moving thoroughly efficient and trustworthy
clerks Is gone."
In tbe course of further conversation,
Ju lee Tliutnun took occasion to say that,
"had Mr. Blame been elected, be would have
made more removals for political motives
than Mr. Cleveland, because in a political lift
of twenty-three years, much of which
time was given to seeking
the presidency, many pledges and
promises must have been made, and, as a
second reason, until his letter of acceptance
appeared the public had not been advised
that Mr. Maine was in sympathy with a re
form of the civil service, and in no speech
during the campaign, although he made
several hundred, did be refer t)
this question. Governor Cleveland,
Judge Tuomas continued, "had declared
him»eH on every occasion that he addressed
the public in favor of the syptcni of reform
that Is now being successfully carried out
under the provisions of the Pendleton Mil
and the rules promulgated by President
Arthur, who at all times has given the com
mission hearty and unwavering support."
Rlaiiie Interviewed.
Bostok, Nov. 16. — The Junrr.nl'* Augusta
correspondent sends the following interview
witb Blame:
"I asked Mr. Blalne what he thought
would be the result of the count in New
York, and he rcpiit d that he had no more
meant of knowing it than the unborn child.
Ho had from the first had no
other desire than that a fair
count should be .made, and
so far as he was personally concerned he
would bo content with either result. Suc
cess would not elate him and defeat would
not depress him. He was engaged in ener
getic and profitable work, which had been
interrupted by the campaign, and the deep
regret that he would feel at a Democratic
triumph would be altogether for his party
and the country, not for himself.
"I lived too near the presidency In 1881,"
Mr. Bluine added, after a long pause, "and
have too keen a sense of its burdens, it* em
barrassments and its perils to be unduly anx
ious for the office."
To the inquiry how he accounted for the
closeness of the election in New York, Mr.
Blame said:
Well, considering the loss by the bolt of
the independent Republicans and the far
larger loss from the action of the Republican
Prohibition the wonder at first sight is
that the Democrats did not carry tbe state by
a large majority, as they confidently expected
they would. This result was prevented by
the great accessions to the Rcpublicon ranks
of Irish and Irish-American voters and work
ing men of all classes, who sustained me be
cause of my advocacy of a protective tariff.
They believe, and believe wisely, that free
trade would reduce their wages."
"You really think then," queried the re
porter, "that you got a considerable vote in
New York."
"Ob, I had thousands upon thousands,"
replied Mr. Blalne, "and should have bad
many more but for tbe intolerant and utterly
improper remark of Dr. Bucuard, which was
quoted everywhere to my prejudice, and In
mauy places attributed to myself, though it
was in the highest degree distasteful
and offensive to me. But a lie, you
know, travels very fast, and there
was not time before election to overtake and
correct that one, and so I suffered for it."
I asked Mr. Blame if be thought the Irish
American vote was orgauized at all or bad
competent leaders.
r ; "Yes," said he, '"I was deeply impressed
by the ability, the earnestness, and the sin
cerity : of those whom I met.
There, for instance, is Patrick
Ford, of the Irish • World. He is
a man of the most unselfish devotion to any
cause be espouses, possessing a great faculty
for organization, with - marked ability and
untiring energy. Gen.', Kerwin, of the
Tablet, has, in a large degree, the same char
acteristics, is a far-sighted and able man, I
with a fine record as a Uuion soldier. ... The '
Irish Xation, edited by John Devoy, also gave j
us strong and valuable support. Alex
ander Sullivau and John Flnertv
were powerful on the stamp,
and did royal service. .'• Both are natural ora
tors of the fervid Irish type. Sullivan's
tariff speech In v Toledo contributed very
largely to the defeat of Frank Kurd. ■ These
men, with others whom I did not personally
meet, have made a break In the Irish Demo
cratic vote— one that I: believe will widen
and increase in the future as the full
significance of the attitude of the
Democratic party on the - tariff
question becomes understood and appre
ciated. Our Irish and Irish-American, citi
zens will in time ret tired of voting in ac
cordance witn the wishes of the English free
traders."
I raid to Mr. Blaise that the Irish in Bos
ton thought be understood . the character of
their people better than any other Republican
leader.
Blalne replied that It would be egotistic
for him to assume that, but said there was
perhaps a strong leaning of the Irish ele
ment towards him because of the fact that
on his mother's side he was of Irish decent.
In Pennsylvania, bis native state, he had
received an enormous Irish vote,
some counties, . hitherto strongly
Democratic, having been completely reversed j
in their popular majorities by tbe change of I
tha Irian In bis favor. This, however, was,
of coarse, due in part to the fact that he
stood so distinctly as tbe representative of
protection to American industries, an idea
which prevails with more force in Pennsyl
vania than in any other state.
"Bit." said I. "did not you lose corres
pondingly in the German vote)"
"Not at all," replied Mr. Blame. "All
through the went tbe Germans supported me
nobly. How else could I have carried Chi
cago' by 9,000, Cincinnati by 5,000 and
Cleveland by 5,000! ' Ohio, Wis- ;
consin, Illinois and lowa have
the largest German population
in the west, and I carried them by splendid
majorities. Such able and influential editors
as Markbrclt, in Cincinnati; Kauffman, in
Cleveland; Praetorious, in St. Louis, and
many others brought great strength to
the Republican cause. German orators
were also mAst effective In
the stump Brucker. GotUchalk, and men of
that stamp exerted great influence. There
was an immense effort made to prejudice the
governor against me, bat it failed, They
are a wonderfully cool headed people, inflex
ibly honest in their conclusions and just in
their judgments, and I have abundant
reason to thank them for their
generous support. • I shall not soon forget It
At different points in the west I found Ger
man and Irish clubs cordially uniting in
public demonstrations."
Tour correspondent brought the conversa
tion back to New York by asking Mr. Biaine
if be thought the Prohibitionists were honest
in their support of St. John.
"I have never during tbe campaign, re
plied Mr. Blame, "reflected upon the motive
of any man, and shall not do so. I content
myself with saying that tbe Prohibition !
were misled, and that they did not correctly |
measure the possible result of their course.
I received from many of them the assurance
thai my candidacy made their actiou diffi
cult, because they really wanted to
vote for me, but they seemed to be . under
the stranze delusion that the temperance
cause could be promoted by supporting their
own presidential ticket, and by their course
they influenced prejudicially the national is
sues which were really at stake."
"You attribute the close vote In New York,
then, Mr. Blalne, solely to tbe action of the
Independent* and the Prohibition
Not solely, "replied Mr. Blame, "according
to numerous letters received , from centrtl
and western New York, it would seem that
the rainy day lessened the Republican vote.
Tbe Democratic majorities lie :n the cities,
where, by a few minutes wait : on a good
pavement a man ' reaches .\i» potting place.
Tbe Republican majorities are' in the
country, where large numbers live three,
four or even five miles from the polling
place, which, on election day, had to be
reached through muddy roads, due to a rain
storm. Had the day been fine, the Republi
can majorities in the rural counties * would
have beeu increased. One good judge writes
we lost probably 10,000, but all agree on
from 3,000 to 5,000. The - actual
difference between the tad parties In
the final count, which ever way it goes, will
perhaps not exceed 1.0110, about one twelfth
of 1 per cent, of the total vote, or one voter
in every 1,200 for the entire state. So, if
the Democrats really carried New York by
this small margin: as the latest
news indicated, you ssk! how
easy a fair day might have reversed the re
sult, but treat" political battles, like military
battle often lost or won by an apparently
trivial Incident or accident which which no
human foresight can guard against." -
Mr. Blame turned homeward at thh point.
He seemed to be in perfect health, and, as
far as any one could judge, in the best of
spirits. He told me that lib long tour of
forty-two days on tbe stump bad -not in Uk
lea*t degree fatigued Lite.
Ills Monumental Che+k.
Pittsbuko, Pa.. Nov. 16. J05. D. Weeks,
treasurer of the national Republican. commit
tee, was in the city to-day and returned to
New YorK to-night. In an interview be said:
"It U impossible to tell what the national
committee will do when tbe official count is
finished. Tue board of county canvassers
have no power to chauge the face of the re
turns except in case of manifest clerical er
rors and under certain conditions to count
ballots that were rejected by them as blanks
or defective. . Any action look
ing to a change Id the re
turns except as above , stated,
niu.-t be brought before tbe courts, who have
power by uiauuamus to instruct inspectors
and canvasser* to change the tace of the re
turus. The national committee will stick it
out as long as there I. any bone. The Re
publican people of this country expect tbeir
national committee to exhaust every means
within their power to reach the actual results
of the election, and until it has done tbat it
will remain In active service. As far as I
am concerned, I think there is still some
hope."
Counting the lilectoral Tote.
[Special Telegram to the Globe.}
Washington, Nov. 16. — A rood many able
newspapers are informing their readers that
the electoral vote will be counted by the two
bouses of congress in accordance with tbe
twenty-second joint rule. There Is no twen
ty-second joint rule now in force. There Is not
in existence any rule or law governing the
counting of . the > vote, so that
the only regulation for that
Important duty Is the very vague and gen
eral provision of the constitution, which was
adopted before it was dreamed that there ever
would be a dispute over an electoral vote
which would not be settled at the farthest by
tbe electoral college itself. In " consequence
of this lack of a provision for counting the
vote it is a matter of congratulation that the
electoral vote la not likely to provoke objec
tion when it gets to congress.
If there were any • prospect of
disputed returns, congress would be in just
tbe same condition that it was eight years
ago, when, after, the election had taken
place and was claimed by each party and each
party controlled one branch of congress, tbat
body had to attempt tbe - delicate task of pro
viding some way of settling the disputed
points. The situation would 'be worse now
than It was then in tire respect that then an
electoral commission bad never been tried,
now it has been and nothing could induce
both parties to agree on a repetition. .«
There is some interesting political .; history
connected with this twenty-second joint rale.
It was' adopted: February 1865, at which
time Oliver P. Morton was not a member of
the senate, . but < tradition 'credit* him with
the inspiration of it. It provided that, in
case of dispute, the two bouses shall separate
and no affirmative action shall be taken
without the agxteibe*t of . both.', house*, nor
{ (lull any state's rote to which objection I
i* made be counted uolcm buth '
houses agree to it. At this time '
the Republican party wu in absolute posses
•lon of both bouse* of congress and promised ,
to retain that power indefinitely, This rule ,
afforded the Republicans extensive oppor- i
tun i ties for throwing ouUvotesof Democratic
■ states when necessary. it was a simple mat
| ter to get a vote objected to, and when it was
• objected to either one of the bouses could
prevent its being counted. The Democrats
could not get even with the frame until they
controlled one of the two houses of congress,
which there was bo Immediate prospect of
their doing.
Under this rule the electoral Tote was
counted in 1565, 1869 and 1873. During all
this time, the Republicans controlled both
bouses of congreat, and It bad not occurred
to them that the rule was not an admirable
one. In 1873 it cave the senate the oppor
tunity of rejecting the vote of the state of
Arkansas, which the bouse was willing to
admit, on the ground that the returns were
only authenticated by the seal of the secre
tary of state. If debate had been
permitted, it could have been shown that
that was the only official seal in the state.
In 1874 there was a tidal wave, which swept
a large Democratic majority into the house.
This congress met in December, 1575, and
at the first session the Republican senate
adopted and sent to the house a resolution
re-adopting all the joint rules in force dur
ing the previous congress, except
the - twenty-second Joint rule.
| The rule bad out-lived its
usefulness when another party had the
house. Republicans bad no notion of allow
ing a single bouse to throw out the Vote of a
state when one of the houses was Demo
cratic. At the same time it began to occur
to the Democrats of the bouse that possibly
they bsd not appreciated all the beauties of
the twenty-second joint rule while the Re
publicans wielded it, and they
began to understand that there were
channels in which the rule might be useful,
so the house simply referred the senate reso
lution to the committee on rules, and noth
ing more was beard from it.
In August, 1878, after the presidential
nominations were made, and the country
was fairly started on the campaign which
threatened to result disastrously to the Re
publicans, the senate, congress then being
about to adjourn, informed the house
that, as it bad made no reply to the senate's
resolution about readoptlng all the joint rules
but one, the senate would no longer recog
nize any joint rules as in force, and since
that time there Lave been no joint rules.
Speaker Randall made a ruling once, based
on theory, that the joint rules could not be
abrogated by the senate alone, but this rul
ing did not commend itself to the judgment
of parliamentarians. In the spring ot
1870 Senator Morton introduced a bill to
govern the counting of the electoral Tote,
which provided that unless two sets of re
turns came from a state the vote of a state
should not be rejected unless both houses
concurred in the rejection. This was in an
ticipation of Democratic objection to the
votes of southern states as returned by carpet
bag returning boards. Under Morton's bill
the senate could prevent the bouse from re
jecting these returns, so that the Morton bill
was as well adapted to the situation as the
old twenty-second joint rule was to the pre
vious situation. This bill did not become a
law, but its essential features are incorpo
rated in the house bill, which the senate
passed at the last session of congress, but
which the house has not acted on. The
bouse referred the bill to a committee, of
which Win. W. Eaton, of Connecticut, is
chairman, and be has introduced a substi
tute for it which can never become a law,
because no senate, whatever may be its poli
tics, will agree to it.
Eaton's bill provides that when the electo
ral vote of a state is objected to, the question
on sustaining the objection shall not be put
to the two houses separately, but shall be put
in joint convention, each member voting
I individually, so that the bouse could easily
oat-vote the senate. The senators will never
merge themselves with the members of the
more numerous branch of congress into a
Joint convention.
•
Brooklyn Wants an Office.
|Speiial Telegram to the Globe. |
New Yonjc, Nov. 16. — There will be some
disappointment in Brooklyn If Go/. Cleve
land, upon reaching the White House, does
not recognize the Kin,;* county Democracy
as the political factor in his elevation . There
is no lack of assurance on the part of the
faithful across the bridge in asserting that
they made Cleveland governor, then
nominated him for president, and then
elected him, and If this doesn't count
with him they would very much like to know
what will count. Singularly enough, this is
not a machine Democratic view alone, but
the crowd of higher grade politicians who
circle around the Hamilton club repeat in
essence what may be beard on the street cor
ners, and around the city hall it is a question
now who is to be the next president- chief
adviser in Brooklyn, and interest in
this ' question is all the greater
because of the great expectations existing. If
there is not some heart burning as to the
outcome itwiil be. a surprise.
Klugslcy, it is admitted, did more at Chi
cago to make Cleveland the nominee than
any other man, but Beecher, it is urged,
bears off the honor, and should be preferred
in the White bouse counsels. Already there ;
is a dispute. The Independents
think that Carl Scburz should
have a portfolio and are confident, that Mr.
Cleveland will bestow one upon him. The
Democrats say that if Cleveland wants to dig
his grave as soon as he reaches the White
bouse, be will appoint Schurz, but that If ' he
istcus to good horse sense, such as be is
more likely to get from Kiogskv
than from the Plymouth pulpit, be
will settle with Scburz in ~ some
other way. ' The Independents think
that the state patronage should be disposed
of with a single eye to building up their party,
so as to compel the next Republican state
convention, or the Democratic state conven
tion, to nominate Mayor Low tor governor.
The Democrats want to know if they are to
he fed at tbe second table. They rather
think tbe president owes something to their
support. The Independents demand what
they want, and the Democrats look to King
sley.
Many ask: "Will Gen. Slocum be secre
tary of war!" He was sacrificed at Syracuse
for Mayor Cleveland, or Buffalo, and he was
sacrificed at Chicago for Gov. Cleveland, of
New York. If Kings county bad said the word
at Syracuse or at Chicago at the critical time
Gen. Slocum's friends believe be would .be
the president elect to-day.
" Many ask, "Will Hugh McLaughlln be col
lector of the port of New York!" He Is now
viewed as one of the ablest politicians in the
state, and G rover Cleveland has besrun, .it U
said, to have for him the same warm feeling
that Mr. Tllden has always shown him. Ms-
Laugblin's lriends say that, now that the
Democrats have triumphed, be has no ambi
tion except to live the rest of his days under
a Demociatic administration. He started bis
political career In the navy yard in the time
of peace, and be will be glad "in all prob
ability to help put back there the survivors of j
the old company of employes that helped
him Into politics when 'he was their fore
pan.ißaj
Before an v plans for the future can be laid
In federal politics in Brooklyn the size of
Cleveland's gratitude to either must be as
certained.
Cleveland's civil Service Views.
Washington, D. C, Nov. 16. — A southern
member of the Democratic national commit- ;
tee says that in the course of a conversation ■
Got. Clevel>nd said to him: If there is any j
one matter to which I have given my fullest :
attention it is to reform and increase the ,
efficiency in the civil service. When I i
came to Albany as governor I found
nearly all the departments full of clerks,
whose political predilections were Republi- j
can. The state officials who came Into office
with me called upon me shortly after my '
accession and asked what were my views in
relation to removals from public service for
political reason. One gentleman,
whose department is perhaps
the most important office, said
my office is full of extreme Republicans,
appointed by Gov. Cornell. Now, what am '
Ito do! I replied: You are responsible to
the people for the good administration of i
your office. Your confidential subordinates'
should have been selected with great care,
and those you doubtless will appoint from .
your personal friends. There can |
be no objection to your making inquiry
respecting: the qualifications, Zealand ability
of your 'official force. If a clerk* is faithful
and competent be should be retained, no
matter what bis political predilect ions may
be. During my term I have discharged no
employe from an executive department
for political reasons and ■ many
of Gov. Cornell's personal followers
are still in the service of the state. If lam
elected president," said Got. Cleveland,
with emphasis, "the clerks in great depart
ments at Washington, who are fit for their
positions, will remain in office. Ability and
zeal in the service will be the measures of
usefulness. The rules of the civil service
commission will govern all minor appoint
ments."
Of President Arthur's position, another
member of the committee, tells the two fol
lowing stories: The first, describing Presi
dent Arthur's attitude and the second why
the New York Democrats employed Roscoe
Conklln^to see that they bad a fair count.
On Wednesday night, Not. 5, '.
the Blame Republicans in New
York became very uneasy over
the outlook and called on the president to
assist them in some way, how I do not know,
to put New York in the Republican column,
lie listened to them, and when they bad
stated their wishes he replied: "I don't see
what I can do. My own opinion is that the >
Democrats have carried this state.
Everything indicates it thus far. t
would not interfere if I could, and I trust
no person who claims to be a friend of mine
will lend his hand to any scheme to thwart
the will of the people."
Just before leaving New York the presi
dent learned that Win. H. Robertson, col
lector of the port, had gone up into West
cheater upon a political mission. He said to
a friend:
# "Tell Robertson to keep out of this business.
I do not wish or I do not care — either one or
the other of these words was used — to re
move htm from office at present, but he holds
his position to discbarge an important ser
vice to the government and not to tinker In
politics, and h#will seek bis own interests
by attending to the business of bis office and
letting some one else do the dirty work of
politics."
When on last Friday we learned that Mr.
Evarts and Geo. Bliss were to have charge
of the Republican committee, we sent
for a dozen of the leading lawyers of this
city and state of New York and took counsel
with them, among others, such men as ex-
Senator Kernao, Judge Tbeo. Miller of the
court ef appeals, Judge Schoonmaker, ex
attorney general and others, and asked them
to suggest one or more persons whose name* j
and reputations would be a guarantee to the
Democratic voters of New York that their
case would be properly looked after. One of
the most distinguished of the gentlemen
named said:
"If the case is to get into the circuit court
I think Roscoe Conkllng would be the best
person to defend it. Judge Noah Davis
stands in some awe of him, and the adaman
tine check of Col Bliss will not
serve him so well If Conkling
is opposed to him. Then Conkling
owes Evarts an old grudge, and this will give
him a chance to settle it, which will be very !
gratifying. Besides this Mr. Conkling is
particularly well posted upon the statutes
relating to the conduct of elections. Every
Democratic lawyer and judge who heard of
the suggestion approved It, and we
followed their advice. The members of the ;
committee who waited on Mr. Conkling to f
retain him all remarked that there was an '
air of gratification in his acceptance which •
was marked, and he assured them that their
case should bare his best attention.
Male! % a Cabinet.
I Special Telegram to the Globe.)
Chicago, Nov. 16.— Times has col
lected the opinions of various prominent
Chicago Democrats as to President Cleve
land's cabinet, and resolves them into the
following: Secretary of state — Bayard;
secretary of war— McClellan ; secretary of
the interior— secretary of the
nayy — attorney general —
postmaster general — Vilas; secretary of the
treasury — Randall: Secretary of state—Tbur
man; secretary of — McClellan ; secre
tary of the — Lamar; secretary of treas
ury—Randall; secretary of the interior —
Schurz; postmaster general — attor
ney general— McDonald: Secretary of state
— Bayard: secretary of — McClellan; sec
retary of the navy Han ton ; secretary of the
treasury — Carlisle; secretary of tbe
(Continued oil Fourth Pace.)
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