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FOURTH HOSPITAL !
HANGS IN THE AIR.
Senate Decides That Anoka Is Not Entitled to Its
BUT HfISTIJJGS DOES NOT GET IT,
The Senate Not Being Ready, Apparently, to Commit
Itself to the Verm il lion River's Scenic Site —
A Parliamentary Tangle.
Anoka has lost the hospital.
But Hastings has not gained a hos
The fourth state insane hospital seems
to be a man without a country; less
fortunate than the foxes, which have
holes, or the birds of the air, which
can build nests.
From 2:30 yesterday afternoon until
11 o'clock last night the senate stuck
persistently to the fight, with only a
little over an hour recess for supper.
The matter was finally put to a vote
about 10:30, and on a show of hands
in the committee of the whole Anoka
was ruthlessly slaughtered on its mo
tion to adopt the report of the minori
ty committee. Anoka was about six
The Hennepin delegation, however,
interpolated a trick which was sharp
enough to get through — the crucial test
of a political artifice.
Senator Morgan moved that the rec
ommendations of the majority being
two, the question be divided. The op
position opposed this. Senator Wyman
called attention to rule 28. which
seemed explicit enough, and Senator
Stockton, in the chair, permitted the
division. The first recommendation,
practically the "reverse of the minority
report, was adopted by practically the
same vote that the minority vote was
defeated by, except that some of the
adherents of Hastings had come in
since the first vote.
The final recommendation of the
committee was as follows:
We recommend the introduction and pas
sage of a bill having for its object the set
ting aside of the location of the Anoka site
as the site for the fourth hospital, and pro
viding for the purchase of the site offered
by the city of Hastings, and once selected
by the* commission, together with the ap
propriation of $15,000 for the same.
It was divided immediately after the
The second section, carrying the ap
propriation, was then beaten, 26 noes
to 24 yeas, not all of the senators who
voted to set aside the Ancka deal,
©eemingly, being convinced of the jus
tice and wisdom of selecting Hast
When the thing came up in open sen
ate, the chairman reported to Prest
dvnt Gibbs that the report of the ma
jority had been adopted with the sec
tion referred to above stricken out.
The report of the committee was then
adopted without dissent, but there
arose a considerable parliamentary
tangle as to just where the rest of the
report stood. President Gibbs ruled
that as the full report was before the
senate when it was referred to the
committee of the whole, it was still
before the committee and could be
acted on at will. The Hennepin mem
bers tried to shut it off last night by
a motion to adjourn and did finally,
but not until after a motion to table
the rest of the majority report was car
ried. It is thus in the power of any of
the Hastings adherents to call the mat
ter from the table any time they have
The argument, which was a special
order for 2:30, precipitated another call
of the senate. There were less than a
dozen absentees and these were sent
Senator Howard moved that the
special order be considered in open
Benate. Senator Greer, as a substitute,
that it be in committee of the whole.
The substitute was adopted, and
President Gibbs called Senator Dunn,
of Fairmont, to the chair.
Senator Young moved to adopt the
majority report. Senator Dunham thai
the report of the minority be recom
mended for adoption. Senator Iltis sent
to the desk an article from a Minne
apolis paper stating that the Chaska
brick-makers were to get the contract
tor the brick to be used in the con
struction of the new state capitol, if
they would withdraw in favor of Hast
ings. Senator Iltls sent also a tele
gram from the brick-makers denying
tht truth of the allegations contained
in the article. Senator Iltis said that
while Chaska had the best site, there
not being another in the state so ideal
for such a purpose. It had three rail
roads, water, drainage, brick, an<l last,
but not least, fine scenery, in the peace
ful enjoyment of Which the shattered
minds of the sufferers might be re
stored to health and strength. Mr.
Carlson, before voting for the location
at Hastings, asked the Chaska delega
tion what he should do, and the only
answer he gv»t was the admonition to
vote for what he considered tfh-e best
interest of the state. He had relatives
in Minneapolis and he did not want
them poisoned by sewerage from an in
sane hospital at Anoka. He drew a
picture of the germs multiplying in
the river water that muist have struck
ttrror to the souls of the Hennepin
Senator Dun-ham said the site select
ed by the commission was without
doubt a suitable one, and that was
what the pet creating the commission
authorized and directed it to select.
The Southern part of the state had a
large number of the state institutions,
and two of the thro? insane hospitals
already selected. The Anoka people
•had not. run down any other site, but
they asked the lesrlslature to consider
the matter in fairness to their city,
to the commission and to fhe northern
part of the state. The soil at Anoka,
which had been condemned by the
rivals, had contributed to the state
fair half nf tho exhibit of Anoka coun
ty in pas* years. The location was
healthful. There was no malaria. The
poaetbilUlefl of drainage were excellent.
Tlfero was on the site a spring water
supply srrpotrr than the entire flowaee
of the Vermlllion river. wltptp. he said,
the miller had been compelled to turn
exhnust ste-am on the ice in the mill
pond to get water for his wheel There
T/ould be a err^at saving. *,f>«L!a4- said,
on coal freights. At Haying's, $ reach
the high level, a siTV'r of ; t,w.s or three
tniles would be necessar-yi.
The legislative committee .:ha<s been
told, as the legislature had beeen told,
that a great fraud had been com
mitted, but the committee could not
find it, and its majority and minority
members alike exonerated every mem
ber of the commission. He felt sure the
senate would approve that verdict.
Senator Young said it was an un
usual proceeding for a legislature to
bo called upon to inquire whether a
commission of its creation had faith
fully performed the duties which were
imposed upon it. There had been
reason, he thought, for the suspicion
which had attached to the suddon
change o£ heart on the part of the
commission. It was due to the peo
ple to know what had been done, and
why it had been done. He discussed
the question raised as to whether the
location at Hastings was complete,
holding- that it was. They were there
to perform an administrative duty, and
when they had done it, they were
throug-h. He had visited both sites,
and if there was not something lacking
In the soil of the Anoka site, then he
could not understand why it was given
up largely to gnarled burr oaks. He
compared the drainage facilities at
Anoka with those at Hastings to the
disadvantage of the former. The Hast
ings site had natural advantages too
great to be ignored, he thought, and,
yet the commission had voted to re
move It to Anoka.
A recess of ten minutes was taken to
ventilate the senate rather than the
Senator Culkin said no one would
deny the power of the legislature with
the governor, to change the location of
the hospital, or other institutions, but
it should not be forgotten that the
state had approved the judgment of
the commission. It had expended this
money. Its acts had been given the
fullest, freest and fairest investiga
tion and the Hastings people were
given every opportunity to prove these
charges, and yet no imputation or
dishonorable act was cast upon any
member of that commission, save that
Alvah Eastman / was given several
pages in the report because of an as
serted "lack of courtesy." When tho
news was flashed across the state that
Hastings had been chosen, a large sec
tion of the state felt that an injustice
had been done. A section of the state
had been given another hospital, when
it alredy had two almost within a
stone's throw of each other. He de
fended Mr. Hoper eloquently. A poor
man, unknown to the public at large,
was called to explain a vote to a body,
any member of which, however honest
he mig-ht be, might be embarrassed to
explain why he voted thus and so on a
Taking up the advantages of the
site, he said he represented 35,000
people in the counties of Wright and
Sherbume. These people wanted a
place iwar them where they could visit
those of their friends and relatives
who bad bet-n stricken with mental
maladies. It was a melancholy pleas
ure, but it was a privilege not to be
They felt that they were not asking
too much in asking that a hospital be
located west and north of the cities.
He had seen this proposed site at
many seasons of the year and it was
fertile. Many men had made fortunes
on this site and surrounding farms.
Hastings had been fairly whipped, but
now it came • and asked the state to
fight their battle for them and help
them out. As for the advantage claim
ed for the stone on the Hastings site,
it was immaterial, in the light of
modern constructive science, which
built hospitals, not of stone, but of
steel and brick.
It was unfair to place south of the
city practically all of the money col
lected from the people of the state.
Public institutions were no man's boun
ty, but, other things being equal, geo
giaphical equities should not be de
spised. If the Hennepin delegation
was not afraid, it would be well
enough for the state at large to grant
that the sewage would not be deleteri
ous to Minneapolis. It was conceded
that Anoka had the superiority in ge
ography and in fuel supply, and, in
justice to that cit5 r , he was confident
the senate would adopt the report of
Senator Morgan's recognition follow
ing another champion of Anoka was an
encouragement of the hope that a vote
would soon be reached. He reviewed
the reports and said that, when ail
was read, the difference between the
two was that six favored one site, flv>
the other. In view of this practically
even division of opinion as to the nat
ural advantages of the respective site 3,
the senate would interfere with tho
acts of the commission, throw away
the money it had spent, cast discredit
on the community in which it had
spent it, all to satisfy the demands of
another disappointed community.
Senator McHale wanted the senate
to look over both sites in a body. He
believed it one of the most important
matters that would come before the
legislature. Not one of the members
could tell but he himself might some
day be an inmate of such an institu
Senator Yale said that, in creating a
commission, it was hard to avoid get
ting a lame duck. When Jesus selected
his twelve, one turned out wrong, and
it developed that he received thirty
pieces of silver. Now. however, men
were wiser, and, if Judas lived now,
he might have covered it up. He
thought Alvah Eastman and O. C. Mer
rlman were brighter than Hoper, to say
the least. The verdict of the commit
tee was not guilty, but he thought it
was in the sense of not proven. The
contract between Hastings and the
state was not legal, because it was not
in writing, but it was a moral obliga
tion none the less. The senate had th>:
ri^ht to go over the proceedings of a
commission which had cast dishonor on
Senator Schaller said no legal tech
nicality should be permitted to come
between the state and its most abject
wards. It was not a question of coal
rates or of railroad trains, but of right
and wrong. His words might not be
given ns much weight as they would
were he not among those who felt that
an injustice had been done. What was
there honorable about the action, of the
commission? When Mr. Hoper voted
for Hastings, he was pure; when h*
voted for Anoka, he became an object
of suspicion. He would not charge that
Mr. Hoper had received any considera
tion for his vote; he never had. He had
mistaken the temper of that commid -
sion when they decided that the hos
pital should be located at Hastin&a.
He thought that was a finality.
For that he had been compelled to
suffer tortures most condign, the scorn
of his fellow men, so bitter that he had
THE SAINT PAUL GLOBE: FRIDAY, MARCH & 1897.
spent many sleepless nights. He spoke
from the heart of v outraged man.
The argument that the northern part
of the state should be given something
was met by the fact that the center
of the state was fifty miles north of
The senate was not asked to turn
down the. action of the committee, but
of Mr. Hoper. Was there anything so
sacred about an act of bad faith like
this that the legislature could not be
permitted to set it aside? It was not
a transaction , that an honorable man
would lend himself to, if he took time
for reflection. Right and truth and
justice should and would triumph in
A recess was taken at this point until
7:30 p. m.
Senator Stockton was called to the
chair after a call of the senate showed
but a few absentees.
Senator Wyman said the thing had
reached a regrettable stage when a sen
ator from Dakota county was accused
by his constituents of a deroliction.
Though no fault of his he had been
placed in a most uncomfortable posi
tion, but that was not material to the
subject under discussion. Senator Wy
man said he had no word of commen
dation for the man who changed his
vote. He did not blame the people of
either city for coming before the legis
lature in defense of its rights, but the
question was simply this: Hastings had
gone to the particular expense. The
people of Anoka, however, had given
a site fully as good, in Ms opinion, as
that at Hastings, and had gone down
into their pockets and added $8,000 to
the amount appropriated by the state
for the purchase of the site.
Senator Young— Where is the evi
dence to show that?
Senator Wyman— lsn't it in the re
Senator Young— lt is not. It is not a
proper subject for. discussion.
Senator Wyman — The legislature is
to blame, if any one is to' blame, for the
present condition, not either of these
cities. It is the result of the action of
the commission created by this legis
lature. I do not excuse the commission
for its conduct, but two wrongs would
never make a right. Would it be right
tc placate Hastings by outraging
Senator Schaller then resumed his
speech. It was probable, he
said, that his memory was
more intelligent as to certain happen
ings shortly after than it would be
after a year and a half. Mr. Hoper
then said he was actuated by the peti
tions. He evidently forgot that he was
to select a hospital for the whole state
and not for the Seventh district. These
massive petitions were signed by 193
people, none of them nearer than Alex
andria and Fergus Falls. "I do not
care how he was persuaded," exclaimed
Mr. Schaller. "We are not attacking
the commission, but simply Mr. Hoper's
bad judgment. Are we to be bound by
this unsatisfactory explanation of a
It was urged against the location at
Hastings that it would require a
change of cars. And within his mem
ory patients were taken to the first
hospital by wagon. The beautiful lo
cation at Hastings would ten times ex
ceed any. possible harm that might be
done by this ten minutes' delay at the
union depot. If the people of Anoka
had given $8,000 or any other amount,
no legislature would let them lose it.
It ha.d been argued that to charge
this location would be to establish a
bad precedent; rather, he said, would
it be to disestablish a bad precedent.
He wanted the legislature to declare
that that sort of business was not to be
tolerated in a state where white men
live; in a state where honorable men
live. The legislature should take the
bit in its teeth, and disaffirm this lo
cation. Let it be understood hereafter
in this state that a decision once made
by such a. commission shall stand once
and for all. As to the action of the
Anoka people in "cinching the thing,"
it struck him that people who were so
suspicious, were not above suspicion.
He called attention to the fact that the
Dunham bill now pending provided
for an appropriation of $6,000 for drain
age of the Anoka site. He also took up
the waterpower question, and assured
the senate that it was just what it
had been represented to be. He sent a
report of the engineers to the secre
tary's desk, and it was read.
Senator Dunham— Why didn't the
people of Hastings get this power for
their electric plant?
Senator Schaller— Because they could
not get it for that purpose.
Senator Stebbins, the author of the
bill, creating the commission, said
that as he originally drew it, it provid
ed that the board of trustees of the
insane hospitals should be on the com
This was forbidden, however, by one
of the members being a member of the
senate. Then it was amended to pro
vide for three members of the board
to have places on the commission, but
the senator from Winona objected to
that, and the bill was drawn as it now
exists. As to the present power of the
legislature, however, the law expressly
required that the commission report
to this session of the legislature.
Senator Howard said the question
was whether the commission had done
its work properly, and whether its de
cision was satisfactory to the people
of the state. The fact that they once
favored Hastings, did not confer on
the people of that city any vested
rights. Thero was no excuse for these
reiterated imputations that Hoper had
been improperly influenced. It was
not unusual for a man to change his
mind. The highest tribunal had done
Anoka" s water supply was pure, that
at Hastings must be from s-hallow
wells. Hastings had no right to come
in to the senate with its grievances
any more than had Chaska.
Senator Thompson said that the par
tisans of both cities having spoken,
he would try to represent the state at
"large, which was the sole party in in
terest, and would have to pay all the
bills. He believed as he had believed,
that the hospital should be located near
the two cities, and he would like, an
opportunity to see both sites before
he voted upon it.
Senator Greer said he had opposed
the creation of an outside commission.
Wright county had been promised the
hospital before the commission was
ever created. He believed that the
commission was appointed with clean
hands. It was not loaded. No mem
ber of it had ever lived in Hastings.
If the president and secretary had any
predlsposition to any city, that was?
toward Anoka- Nothing recommende'l
the Hastings site but its prime fitness.
Senator Sttieehaa said that when
the hospital was planned it was in
tended to be for the accommodation
chiefly of the cities of St. Paul and
Minneapolis. He called attention to
Senator Culkin's charitable explana
tion of Mr. Hoper's erratic action, that
It was due to the petitions, and said
the explanation was not borne out by
the facts in the case, as they came
from the lips of Mr. Hoper himself
as he sat on the witness stand. The
senator went into this in detail. He
also took up the statement which had
been made that the committee was
unanimous on the geographical supe
riority of Anoka. The question was so
framed, he said, that the five who
thought the sites were geographically
equal were forced to remain silent. He
said that the three hospitals now held
1,000 Inmates from the Twin Cities, the
Sixth district 309 and the Seventh 367.
Hastings was practically as accessible
to Duluth as Anoka, as the greater
part of the travel was over the St.
Paul & Duluth. When the quarries
on the site at Hastings were consid
ered, the Anoka site was totally unfit
for consideration for the purposes for
which the commission had selected it.
The sites were covered with snow
when the committee visited them, but
there seemed no reason to believe that,
in this respect the Anoka site was in
the least superior to that at Hastings.
The financial argument should not be
considered. The state would deed back
the Anoka site for just what it paid for
it, and no one would lose anything.
The original action of the commission
had aroused no erf ticism : Hs reconsid
eration had, as an inspection of the
state press would show.
Senator Culkin said that, if the sen
ate adopted the majority report, it
sent the venerable senator from Anoka
back to hts constituents dishonored
and disgraced. IS it desired to do this,
it should find, some other pretext.
Senator Yale moved the previous
question. h ■ b-
The minority -report was beaten on
a division, 23 to ,24. The majority re
port then came Up. Senator Morgan
moved the di vtoiowiof the question so
that the senate coujd vote separately
on the negative proposition setting
aside the Anoka- location, and on the
positive propositiensaselecting the Hast
ings site from aU f fhe field. Senator
Young said the>motlon to adopt the
report was indivisible.
"We have said ,th^ judgment of that
commission is not worth anything,"
exclaimed Senator Morgan. "Why then
should we accept tbe Hastings site?"
Senator Yale a^igd the courtesy for
the majority repgrt which had been
given that of tire 'minority.
Senator HowaccL ite>ved to strike out
the appropriation clause.
Chairman Stockton ruled that the
question was divisible, and it was di
vided as follows:
The vote on the simple proposition to
set aside the location at Anoka was
2S ayes and 2a noes. The vote was
then on the proposition to purchase
the Hastings site and appropriate $15,
--000 therefore. The vote On this was
24 ayes and 26 noes.
The committee then rose. Senator
Young moved that the report of the
committee be adopted except as to the
last subdivision of section 6 of the
findings of the majority.
Senator Yale moved to amend to add
to the report of the committee of the
whole the appropriation provision, but
The report was then adopted as made
29 to 23, the vote being as follows:
Ayes — Collester, Currier, Greer, Hanna,
Hanson, Heneman, Iltis, Keller, Larson, Mas
terman, Miller, McArthur, McHale. Ozmun,
Pottgteser, Reishus. Ringdal, Roverud, Schal
ler, Sheehan, Smith, Sperry, Stebbins, Stock
ton, Sweningsen, Thompson, Wing, Yale,
Noes— Barr, Cole, Cronkhite, Culkin, Dun
bam, Dunn, French, Fuller. Hodge, How
ard, Jones, Johnson, A. G., Johnson, W. E.,
Knatvold, Lloyd, Morgan, Peterson, Potter,
Spencer, Tfceden, Thorpe, Whitney, Wyman
Absentees — Stevens, Sevatson.
The senate then adjourned, leaving the
Hastings location and appropriation in the air.
THREE BILLS REVIVED.
Each Had Previously Been Laid to
The house voted again yesterday to
take up the consideration of three
measures which it was thought had
been disposed of one way or another.
Representative SooAt's bill (H. F. 178)
to provide for the .licensing by cities of
bicyclists, was defeated Tuesday by a
narrow margin, in 'the absence of the
On motion of Mr.Felg the bill, which
he said he, and he felt sure others, had
not properly interpreted, was called
up, the vote by/ which it was killed
reconsidered, and it was placed again
en general ordefs.
Representative bill (H. F.
193) providing for special assessments
in certain cases in cities of given popu
lation, was taken' ujs again upon the re
quest of tihe aut-lror, who explained
that the bill although passed by the
house, was unconstitutional, in that
the framing did not brirfg it to any
of the three population elaesfications
as laid down by the Sheehan amend
ment to the constitution. The bill was
again sent to general orders for amend
The last of the two was a bill provid
ing" for a farmers' seed grain fund,
which, although indefinitely postponed
by the appropriations committee, was
after some debate placed with the bills
on general orders.
EXLrARGIXG ITS DUTIES.
Bill That Is Intended UD Kill Oft
Mr. Donnelly introduced a bill (H. F.
722) to submit a constitutiorial amend
ment as follows: .
The supreme court of the state of Minne
sota, in addition to its- other powers as given
and defined by the constitution of this state,
is hereby ' required to exercise the following
powers, viz. :
Whenever any act is pending before the
legislature of this state and a question as to
the constitutionality of such act is suggested
by any member of the legislature, any mem
ber thereof may frame a question respect
ing the constitutionality of such act, if
passed, and submit such question to the su
preme court for its- decision thereon; and it
shall be the duty of such supreme court to
immediately consider and determine the con
stitutionality of such act, and transmit such
decision to the branch of the legislature re
quiring such decision.
Chairman MeGill, of. the special committee
to devise means for the relief of the unem
ployed, submlted the, resolution drawn by Mr.
Martin, asking that the committee's authority
be so widened as to allow the adoption of
plans for the assistance of the unemployed,
not only in the cities, but through the state.
Mr. Jacobson gave notice of debate, and the
matter went over untif today.
Attempted Hol«l-I p.
According to the story told by John Mc-
Garry, an attempt was made to hold him up
last evening at the corner of Seventh and
Williams street. A stranger of whom he
gives a very accurate description stopped him,
he says, poked a gun in his face and de
manded his money, ftefore there was time
to carry out the programme some people ap
proaching scared away the wouldbe highway
man and he made ,©ff in the direction of the
Seventh street bridge. McOarry reported the
matter to Offleier --Phil Twohy and at the
central station. Mj-CJarry lives at 909 Fau
quier street. k '
Charles McCoy was arrested early this
morning on a charge of vagrancy. He is re
cently out of Stilfwatef, it is said, and the
police are inchnedcte ,connect him with the
affair, if it proves' an attempt was actually
Wedding Parts ot Twenty Attacked
VIENNA. March 4.— Advices from Belgrade
say that during the last few days murderous
outrages have been committed by Turks and
Arnauts on Christians in various parts of
old Servia. Near Prilip a priest and two
peasants were murdered, and near Tetome a
wedding procession was attacked and twenty
one persons were killed or wounded.
Manager Freedy. of -the Northweatern Tele
phone exchange, afforded the members of the
Commercial club a treat yesterday by show-
Ing them what could be done with the long
distance telephone. The circuits to Fargo
and Grand Forks were kept open for sev
eral hours, and as thje members had an ex
tensive acquaintance In these towns, the
wires were kept hot.
Bpsbtcy Cttri TstATXKrr for torturing, dlsflg.
tiring, itching, burning, spd scaly skin and scalp
diseases with loss ofitair. r- Warm baths with Cv-
Ticttba. SoiP, gentie^tftpllcatlons of Ctmcinn*.
(ointment), and fuUfftoacp of Cutiouba. Rksol-
Yint, greatest oi blood purifiers and humor caret
!» «oM ftroeehotit the world. Pottii
DBro ft Chcm. Cobp.. But* Prop*., Rotton.
09- " How to Cure Itching Skin DiMafe*,"frM.
RED ROUGH HANDS^^^f^r 4
A Handsome Complexion
is one of the greatest charms a woman can
possess. Posboki'b Complexion Powder
OH FREIGHT fIfITES
DISCT SSIOV lIEPORE THIS HOUSE
COMMITTEE OW RAILROADS
NO DISTANCE TARIFF BILL
C. W. BU3TN PRODUCES STATISTICS
SHOWING THAT THE COST OP
TRA\ SPORT ATION
HAS BEEX MATERIALLY REDUCED.
Mr. Grover Also Refutes Statements
About the Great Northern— A
The house committee on railroads
held its open meeting last night at the
capitol to hear arguments for and
against the Douglas "distance tarirf
bill" now in its bands. In addition
to the members of the committee and a
number of representatives, there were
present Mr. Douglas, the author of the
measure; C. W. Bunn, counsel of the
Northern Pacific; M. D. Grover, the
Great Northern solicitor, and P. H.
Rahllly, of the State Farmers' Alliance
Mr. Lovejoy, chairman of the commit
tee, stated that Mr. Douglas was In
disposed, and, instead of speaking to
his bill, would prefer to hear the rail
road lawyers, and, if able, reply to their
statements. Mr. Bunn spoke first. A
number of statements were made, he
said, by the minority of the grain and
warehouse committee, who favored the
passage of the bill. They were along
this line, viz.: That the coal rate to the
Red river valley was higher than that
of any other s*ate in the union; that
not a syllable of evidence had been
offered when the railroad counsel were
heard by the committee to show that
the rates were not higher in this state
than in any other state; that the ex
isting rates on coal and grain were
higher than those made by any other
railroad, save the Union Pacific, and,
lastly, that the bonds and stocks of the
roads in this state were plentifully
watered. Mr. Bunn commenced by
saying that he himself had made a
statement concerning the coal rates in
the presence of the author of the bill,
and had cited the case of Cox Bros. V3.
the Lehigh Valley road, in which it
was shown that the road was carrying
coal from the mine to the Atlantis
tidewater, a distance of 135 miles, at a
rate of $1.50, which was considered a
reasonable rate. This road carried
8,000,000 tons each year, making a rate
of 1 cent and 1 mill per ton per mile.
The Great Northern., on the other
hand, carried but 6,000 tons per annum
and moved it the rate of about 1 cent
per ton per mile. In some instances
there were competing points, and ho
believed that the Northern Pacific rate
was about the same. The author of
the bill had, he thought, made a pecu
liar objection to the rate on the North
ern Pacific to Moorhead, which was 1%
cents per ton per mile. Mr. Bunn cited
a number of other statements he haj
made before the committee, and con
tended that the rates of the Western
roads, on coal especially, which was
hardly more than peddled in the West,
would compare very favorably with
those of the Eastern roads. He read
from a table showing the truth of his
statement, as follows:
Reckoning from Duluth—
Present rate. Rate proposed
Miles. by bill.
Brainerd 118 12 8
Little Palls 129 12 9
Sauk Centre 187 14 11
Fergus Falls 217 14% 11%
Breckenridge . .242 15 12
Crookston 299 16% 13
E. Grand Forks. 32s 17 13%
Moorhead 256 15% 12%
Mr. Bunn compared the above present
existing rates with the corresponding
rates on other lines, and showed the
I Minnesota figures quite fair and equit-
I able, and concluded this part of his
argument with the statement that he
trusted it will not be again stated that
he had not offered to show- that the
rates in this state were not the high
est in the United States.
Mr. Douglas had made the assertion
that the rates on hard coal had not
been lowered for eighteen years, and
that the wheat rate had been lowered
but half a cernt since 1878. To disprove
the truth of these assertions Mr. Bunn
cited the fact that the wheat rate to
Litle Falls had been lowered since 1880
from $3.40 o $1.75, the present rate. Mr.
Douglas declared he had made no
statement as to Little Falls, where
upon the attorney replied that if he
was legislating for only a section of
the state, he should withdraw his bill.
Mr. Bunn went further. He gave a
table of rates on hard coal since 1880,
to the following points, with the present
Brainerd $3 40 $150
Fergus Falls 3 40 2 45
Wadena 4 20 2 00
Detroit 4 80 2 50
Lake Park 4 80 2 65
Moorhead 500 300
The last place, the author's home,
refuted the assertion, and the reduction,
Mr. Bunn said, had been gradual.
As to the statement that wheat rates
had been reduced but one-half a cent
in the time mentioned, Mr. Bunn read
from the paper book in the celebrated
Steenerson rate case, showing that the
rate from St. Vincent had been cut
down from 35 to 18 cents; Moorhead,
25 to 15V& cents, and Fergus Falls, from
23 to 14 cents. Mr. Bunn toox excep
tion to the relative rates which are
charged on cattle and grain and ex
plained that cattle are shipped from
a point in Montana to Duluth at & less
rate than wheat for several reasons,
the chief of which is that the cars in
which the cattle are shipped are avail
able much more promptly. Mr. Bunn
went all through the list of statements
made and offered strong arguments
against the measure.
Mr. Grover submitted facts and fig
ures to show the cost of construction
of the Great Northern as refuting the
statement that the stock was watered,
and expressed the opinion that the
legislature had the right only to make
rates on stuff shipped from point to
point in Minnesota.
Mr. Douglas spoke for some time and
covered much of the ground gone over
before the grain committee.
Mr. Grover concluded his argument
in reply to Mr. Douglas at 1:10, and J.
H. Rahilly, representing the Farmers'
Alliance, was given the floor. Mr. Shell
suggested that twenty minutes be given
the speaker. Mr. Rahilly appeared to
take no notice of the suggested time
limit, and immediately started off by
stating that It was really amusing to
him to hear the attorneys for the rail
roads talk about the interest the roads
had in the welfare of the people. The
railroads of the state, he claimed, were
violating the law daily, and this, fact
he could prove to the satisfaction of —
Just at this point he was interrupted
by Mr. Johns, who said the matter
under discussion was the Douglas bill,
and owing to the lateness of the hour
he would have to demand that the
arguments be confined to this particu
lar measure. Mr. Rahilly apologized
and explained that he was not prepared
to speak on the Douglas bill. Nearly all
the members brightened up at this re
mark, and an instant later a motion
to adjourn was made and carried.
The committee considers the matter
again this morning.
Debts and Credits.
Representative Grondahl introduced a Mil
(H. P. 729) which provides for the repeal of
the law which permit* debts to be deducted
from credits. Under the present law a per
son who owns credits such as mortgages
notes, etc.. may have his debts deducted
therefrom and pay taxes on the balance, while
a person who owns other property does not
S? ve^ h , 18 debta deducted, but pays taxes on
tne run value of the property. The bill pro
poses to do away with what the author con
siders unfair discrimination against the poor
taxpayer and in favor of those who own
The following reports on bills were made:
From Corporations Other Than Municipal—
S. F. 291 (substitute for S. P. 164, by the
senate judiciary committee)— To authorize and
confer perpetual succession upon corporations
organized for the purpose of operating pri
vate cemeteries. To pass and to be substi
tuted for H. P. 328. Adopted.
H. F. 542 (Lovejoy)— To compel transfer
agents to exhibit transfer book or list of
stockholders. To pass. Adopted.
H. P. 543 (Lelluian)— To make stockholders
Jointly liable for the wages of all employes.
To be indefinitely postponed. Adopted.
H. F. 638 (Scott)— Relating to payment of
fees for filing articles of incorporation. To
be indefinitely postponed. Adopted.
S. F. 107 (Stevens)— Authorizing corpora
tions other than those for pecuniary profit
to increase the number of their trustees. To
From Banks and Banking—
H. F. 451 (Goss)— To make it unlawful for
banks to loan money to their stockholders.
To be indefinitely postponed. Adopted.
H. F. 107 (Felg)— To amend general laws
relating to interest on money fend usury.
To pass. Adopted.
H. F. 633 (Lovejoy)— To conform all sav
ings banks to uniformity of powers, rights
and liabilities, and to provide for the better
protection of depositors. To pass. Adopted.
S. P. 253 (Spencer)— To provide for reor
ganization of insolvent banks. To pass.
Prom Municipal Legislation—
H. F. 477 (Schmidt)— To authorize cities
to acquire sites for public docks. To pass
as amended. Adopted.
S. F. 200 (Theden)— To repeal law allowing
the village of Excelsior to establish a water
works department. To pass. Adopted.
H. F. 639 (Parker)— To authorize villages
to issue bonds to pay existing Judgments.
To pass. Adopted.
H. F. 650 (Goss)— To provide for the sep
aration of farming lands from cities or vil
lages. To be indefinitely postponed. Adopt
S. P. 140 (Sheehan)— To authorize cities to
compromise claims against such cities. To
be indefinitely postponed. Adopted.
S. F. 158 (Sperry)— To amend general laws
relating to uses and trusts. To pass as
H. F. 686 (Hicks)— To establish primary
elections in conformity with the law govern
ing general elections. To be printed and
placed on general orders.
From Mines and Minerals —
H. F. 307 (Vail)— Giving a lien for better
protection of miners and others employed
about mines. To be adopted.
H. F. 270 (Vail)— Providing for the appoint
ment of a state mining inspector and assist
ants. To pass, with no amendments. Adopt
H. P. 308 (Vail)— To amend law providing
for liens by laborers, material men, etc. To
From Binding Twine—
H. F. 437 (Kelley) — To encourage the grow
ing of long fibre flax for spinning within the
state. To be printed and placed on general
From Public Health, Dairy and Food Pro
H. F. 691 (Stockwell)— To prevent adultera
tion of sugar and saccharine products. To
H. F. G9O (Stockwell)— To prevent adultera
tion of food Jellies. To pass. Adopted.
H. P. 689 (Stockwell)— To prevent adultera
tion of cereal breadstuffs. To pass. Adopted.
H. P. 515 (Brusletten)— To prevent adul
teration of spices and condiments. To pass.
From a Special Committee—
H. F. 422 (Dunn)— To require a majority of
all the persons voting at an election to adopt
a constitutional amendment. Amended so as
to require three-fifths of the people to vote
and at least one-third of the total voters
being in favor of the amendment. To pass.
From Insurance —
H. F. 344 (Shell)— To provide for Incorpora
tion of co-operation assessment life and cas
ualty insurance societies; with a substitute,
H. P. 720. Placed on general orders.
S. F. 246 (Thompson)— To authorize insur
ance companies to Insure against loss by
burglary and theft. To pass as amended.
H. F. 468 (Parker)— To define and limit the
powers of insurance companies to do busi
ness within the state, dividing them into
classes and forbidding one company to do
more than one class of business. To be in
definitely postponed. Adopted.
H. F. 319 (Lang)— To amend Insurance law
of 1895, to permit the organization of com
panies to Insure threshing machines. To
H. F. 528 (Scott)— Relating to the employ
ment of clerks by the insurance department.
To pass. Adopted.
S. F. 134 (Stevens)— To amend the law re
lating to title Insurance companies. To pass.
S. F. 13 (Knatvola)— To authorize the or
ganization of mutual creamery fire Insur
ance companies. To pass. Adopted.
H. F. 409 (Reeves)— To authorize foreign in
surance companies to become Minnesota cor
porations by paying the usual fees. To pass.
Banks and Banking —
H. F. 037 (Schmidt.)— Relating to the gov
ernment of banks. To pass. Adopted.
Corporations Other Than Municipal —
H. F. 199 (Kelley)— Relating to state fees
of corporations. To pass. Adopted.
H. F. 720 (Substitute for H. F. 344, by
committee on insurance) — To provide for in
corporation and regulation of flexible prem
iums of assessment societies. General orders.
H. F. 721 (Donnelly)— To prevent more than
one agricultural society In each county from
receiving state aid.
H. F. 722 (Donnelly)— For a constitutional
amendment providing that the supreme court i
shall decide the constitutionality of any act
submitted to it by the legislature. Judi.-iary.
H. F. 723 (Davles) — To amend probate code
providing that the sheriff shall execute all
warrants, etc., for the probate court. Judi
H. F. 724 (Staples)— To establish a probation
system for juvenile offenders of the law I
in all counties of 50.CC0 or over. General legis
H. F. 725 (Smith)— To amend law relating
to bonds of contractors upon public buildings,
H. F. 726 (Douglas) — To legalize sheriffs'
certificates on mortgage foreclosure sales. Ju
H. F. 727 (Ferris) — To regulate and license
atnployment agencies, requiring bond of
H. F. 728 (Coe) — To protect workingmen in
their Just rights, authorizing labor organiza- ;
tions. Placed on general order*.
H. F. 729 (Grondahl)— To repeal the law
permitting the deduction of debts from cred
its in the assessment for taxation. Taxes and
H. F. 730 (Goar)— To define the boundaries
of counties where the line is the meandered
shore of a lake or stream. Counties.
H. F, 731 (Snyder)— To authorize any city
council in cities of 50,000 to license persons
engaged in theatrical installation. Municipal
H. F. 732 (Sampson) — To repeal the special
law relating to liquor law In the village of I
Dassel, Meeker county. Indefinitely post- !
poned, as S. F. 416, passed under supension \
of the rules, covers the same ground.
H. F. 733 (Dahl)— To inquire agents of all
fcredgn corporations to file with the secretary
of state certificates of authority before doing
business within the state. Corporations.
H. F. 734 (Dahl)— To provide for the ap
pointment of an agent to accept service for
all foreign companies doing business within
this state. Corporations.
H. F. 520 (substitute for H. F. 334, by the
Twelfth judicial district delegation)— To de
tach Renville county from the Ninth and at
tach to the Twelfth judicial district.
H. F. 333 (Fosnes)— To create an additional
judge of the Twelfth judicial district
H. F. 99 (substitute for H. F. 27. by the
committee on general legislation) — Relating to
liens on logs and lumber.
H. F. 117 (Soule)— To provide for the relief
of Ellen Rush. Amended to $40 per month.
H. F. 177 (Schmidt)— To legalize defective
H. F. 328 (Cray)— Relating to provide cem
H. F. 205 (Fosnes)— To legalize certain cor
S. F. 135 (Hodge)— Relating to public
H. F. 3GO (Johns)— To legalize certain fore
S. F. 416 (Hanson)— To repeal special law
of 1891 regarding liquor license money in the
village of Dassel, Meeker county. Passed un
der suspension of the rules.
S. F. 421 (Wyman) — To repeal chapter 54,
General Laws extra session 1881, relating to
a specific tax of 1 cent a ton on all iron ore
mined. Passed undei suspension of the rules.
house: odds and ends.
The house, by a rising vote, on motion of
Representative Coe, adopted a resolution of
condolence for Representative J. H. Reiner,
whose brother has just died.
Representative Dahl Introduced a resolution
providing that hereafter all bils sent to the
committee an claims and by that committee
either recommended for pasage or amended,
be printed and then sent to the committee on
appropriations. The resolution, which con
templates a change of house rules, was re
ferred to the committee on rules.
THEY GO o]l RECORD
ST. PAUL RETAILERS EXPRESJ
THEMSELVES OX THE DEPART
MENT STORE QUESTION.
THE UNION MET LAST NIGHI
AND ADOPTED A SET OF RKSOLU.
TIOXS TO GO TO THE LEGIS
STREET CAR MATTERS DISCUSSED,
Xeetls of Merriam and St. Anihonj
Parks Referred to by the Alder-
men cif These Districts.
The special meeting of the St. Paul
retailers' union, held at the Ryan las>t
night, for the purpose of taking actioc
concerning the department stores, was
well attended. There were some forty
Within fifteen minutes after Presi
dent Bowlby called the meeting to or
der, the union adopted a preamble
and resolution requesting the leg-is
lature to pass a law that will restrici
department stores by providing for an
occupation tax or a graduated scale o<
license, to be paid by retail merchants
upon the various lira* of merchandise
sold by them.
Prior to the adoption of the resolu
tion, Emil Geist suggested that a com*
mittee from the retailers' union be ap
pointed to investigate the bill now be*
fore the legislature regarding the de«
partment stores. T. B. Myers read
some figures regarding the effect of de«
partment stores on the retail trade. The
figures showed a marked decrease in
those lines of trade coming into com
petition with the department stores,
while the reports of the various lines
not coming in such competition showed
a large increase.
President Bowlby then put the ques
tion on Mr. Geist's motion to adopt
the preamble and resolution. The mo'
S?2 Prevailed by almost a unanimooui
vote the only member voting in the
negative beins Jacob Mannheime" Th 2
preamble and resolution, which are
fol?ow SS - tO th 6 le&lslature > read afl
Gentlemen: At a meeting of the St. PauJ
? lM? r f h Un ? a n hel , d at the Ryap hote l Ma?cl
tinn, w Jf c i olo ? ing Preamble and resolu
tions were adopted and a committee appoint.
5e and^uS ° Ur rqmi " taUv " in the 8en '
Whereas, It Is desirable, in the interests oi
good citizenship, that in every community th
people may engage in the various Industrie
on their own responsibility, and
Whereas, anything which tends to central
™i ai V d .£ la^ c Under the domination and con.
th °l l Hf few the business of the merchant
the shopkeeper and the tradesman and r*
duce them from employers to employes ti
detrimental to the Interests of the people and
Whereas the tendency of the age is toward
the centralization of various lines of trad,
under one management, thereby reducing th«
possibilties of Industrious tradesmen and
SSSSed^ffiTnS 1111 ' C ° mPetlnS Witt
Whereas, department stores have become ■
grave menace to the business and real pros
£ /* '^crests of the state and have re
tarded the development and general welfar<
of the communities wherein they exist, and
am% de . Btroyed \° a dangerous degree the in
dividual occupations of the citizens and thew
abi.lty to earn a livelihood, and
Whereas, such stores have centralized nu
merous lines of business under one manage
ment in such a way as to lessen, and in
f£ me ™ a nV°, entlrel y dnve out of business
the- small dealers and vacate a large amount
of business property. Therefore be It
Resolved, That the legislature of the staU
of Minnesota now assembled enact laws
conferring on the municipal governments of
the state power to restrict department storea
by pioviding for an occupation tax or a
graduated scale of license, to be paid by re
tail merchants upon the.r various lines ol
merchandise, vended, and for preventing
fraud and deceit in advertising or describing
goods orfered for sale.
Secretary Morrow then read the de
partment store bill introduced by Sen
ator Theden. At the conclusion of the
reading, Mr. Myers offered the follow
ing resolution, which was at once
Resolved. That a committee consisting ol
as many members as there are individual
lines of trade represented in the membership
of the St. Paul Retailers' union, be appointed
by tho president to confer with the propei
senate committee for the purpose or reviewina
and revising the classification of schedule)
in the bill before the legislature entitled
an act authorizing cities to tax certain oc
cupations and privileges."
In accordance with the resolution
President Bowl by appointed the fol
lowing committee: W. J. Dyer. Kmil
Gelst, Frank Plnska, Percy Nasrh. R.
A. L,anpher, Geo. Lennon. C. B. Bowl
by, Charles Treadwell. P. W. Sturte
vanf, Charles F. Pusc-h. J. Strong S.
O. Greer, A. T. Hall, John Tenvoorde
J. C. Nolting, Allen Black, F. L. Winch
and Max M. Herman.
Aid. Shepard and Aid. Allard attend
ed the meeting for the purpose of call
ing the attention of the union to the
urgent need of Improved street car
service to and from the midiway dis
Aid. Shepard said that the citizens ol
Merriam Park were badly handicapped
In not having: proper street car service
and facilities between that district and
the central business portion of the city,
Tn consequence of the absence of these
facilities. Aid. Shepard assured the re
tailers' that much of the trade that
ramr> from the midway district was pro
!n£ to Minneapolis instead of St. Paol
Aid. Allard. ppeaklnpr for the Hamlin«
and St. Anthony Park districts, con
firmed Aid. Shepard's statements. He
also informed the union that tihe Ham
line people proposed to secure a street
railway connection with the interur'han
line at Prior avenue, and when that
was accomplished still more trade
would probably be diverted to Minne
Rome discussion followed during
which the desirability of a Union depot
loop was also touched noon. Finally
the union adopted a resolution offered
by Mr. Myers, directing 1 the chairnmn
to appoint a committee to confer with
the common council re^rardiner the
measures now before that body for the
establishment of a Union depot loop
and for improved street railway facili
ties between the center of the city and
the midway district. The cormr.itt'e*?
appointed complies C. B. Bowlby.
Frank PinsVa and C. W. HalT. Tho
committee will receive the support at
the entire organization.
The union then adjourned to meet a
wieek from next Monday nlgrht.
The committee appointed to confer
with the senate committee on Senator
Theden's bill will meet this afternoon
at the Ryan.
SITUATION AT THE FORT.
There was no change in the situation at
Fort Snelling yesterday, and now that Presi
dent MeKinley is in charge it is not expected
there will be any. Mrs. E. R. Lawrence, it
is thought, will continue to distribute mail
at the fort for the next four years if she
wants to. Mrs. Lawrence, it seems, was her
self duly appointed to the position and wat
not filling the place of her deceased husband,
It seems that Capt. J. H. Woods is the in
spector who was ordered by the Washington
authorities to go out and take charge of the
office and move it to the end of the bridge. H«
wired to Washington that that meant the es
tablishing of a new office in St. Paul, and
asked for further instructions. Nothing ho*
since been heard in reply and until further
orders from the department, things wili re
main as they are at the fort.
Is Spring: or Winter Coming?
A curious ornithological combination «ai
noticed today in the Midway district; a small
flock of snow buntings and several Just-arrived
horseshoe larks were grouped in close prox
imity. This to a puzzle to the weather wlsw.
for the mow bunting is a sort of living cola
wave flag, and the horseshoe lark a harbinger