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Vol XXXII XXXIINo No 44 Jacksonville and DeLand Fla Wednesday November 1 1905 Whole No No16 1620
Experience With Alsike AlsikeWherever Alsikehcrcycr AlsikeWherever
Wherever it can be grown we rec recommend reeonuuellll reconnueud ¬
ommend the trial of alfalfa But on onflatwoods on11atwoods onflatwoods
flatwoods land or any soil where the thewater thewater thewater
water level is near the surface alfalfa alfalfaAvill alfalfawill alfalfawill
will not thrive On such lands we wesuggest wesuggcst wesuggest
suggest that you try tr alsike or Swedish Swedishclover Swedishcloer Swedishclover
clover The following from the Ohio OhioFarmer OhioFarmcl OhioFarmer
Farmer gives g cs the results results of the ex experiments cxlcrimcuL experiments ¬
periments of four farmers farmersNO farmcrsNO1 farmersNO
NO NO1 NO1I 1 1I 1I
I have had alsike and timothy timothymixed timothymixcd timothymixed
mixed for pasture the last four years yearsand ycarsU1l1 yearsand
and have found it a very vcr valuable pas pastnrage pasura pastnrage
tnrage tnrage ura e It is i very hardy will stand standxylose s11I1dCosc standclose
close Cosc grazing and is next to impossi impossijfcle impossile
jfcle ile le to freeze out standing the winter wintermuch winterpmch wintermuch
much hotter than either the mammoth mammothor
or o little red Then again a ain if you want wantit wantit wantit
it for mowing mowin there is no finer feed feedthan fccdthan feedthan
than alsike clover especially if you youhave youhavc youhave
have timothy and clover mixed as a ngreat aeat agreat
great eat many farmers now do I sowed ISowedahout sowedabout sowedabout
about 14 acres of rye field this spring springin sprinin
in April to alsike and timothy to tohave tohave tohave
have a permanent pasture I have havea
a fine set et of both and may mow for forhay forhny forhay
hay another year I stacked the rye ryein ryein ryein
in about one week after cutting so as asto asto asto
to not kill out where the shocks stood stoodand stoodand
and have pastured three head of ofhorses ofhorsesfie ofhorses
horses horsesfie five head of cattle and thirty thirtyeight thirtycight thirtyeight
eight head of hogs ever since besides besideshave hesidcshae besideshave
have five head of lambs running on onthe onthe onthe
the same for a few weeks past pa t As a apasture apasturc apasture
pasture or to mow for hay I think it itis itis itis
is unequaled by any of the t1J other clo clovers cloYcrs clovers ¬
vers As 11 to being a benefit to land it itcertainlv itcertninly itcertainly
certainly is but I would prefer either eitherthe eitherthc eitherthe
the little red or or the mammoth if I Iwere Iwere Iwere
were sowing principally for a fertiliz fertilizer ¬
er the little red for a root crop and andthe amIthc andthe
the mammoth for a mulch I have haveabout havenhout haveabout
about 18 acres of the mammoth I cut cutfor cutfor cutfor
for seed this season and naturally ex expect expect expect ¬
pect a big crop of corn from that field fieldanother ficIllanother fieldanother
another year as the ground is covered coveredwith coercclwith coveredwith
with the clover straw left after cut cutting cutting cutting ¬
ting the seed seedXow seedNow seedNow
Now as to poisoning horses I nev never never never ¬
er had any trouble until this summer summersince l summersince mmmersince
since harvest I bought a black blackhorse blackhorse blackhorse
horse with a white nose and white whitehind whitehind whitehind
hind feet this spring and it is proven provenconclusively procnconclusivcly provenconclusively
conclusively to me that the saying is istrue istnle istrue
true for this particular hon horse = e got ot both bothhind hothhind bothhind
hind feet and his nose poisoned and andpretty andpretty andpretty
pretty badly at that I am of the opin opinion opinion opinion ¬
ion that had I kept him oft when there therewas therewns therewas
was heavy dew or rainy weather it itwould itwoulll itwould
would not have poi poisoned oned him as for fora
a time when first turning him out I Iwould IwouIll Iwould
would not allow them on pasture pasturenights pasturenight pasturenights
nights < or rainy days Ila s and had no trou trouble trouhIe trouble ¬
ble until I got to leaving him out alto altogether altogether altogether ¬
gether But other horses hor < es without withoutwhite withoutwhite withoutwhite
white noses or feet were not affected affectedAll affectCl1All affectedAll
All in all I think it worth my while whileguarding whilegU3nIin whileguarding
guarding against those things in in order orderthat ordcrthat orderthat
that we may grow ow some alsike clover cloverAs cloerAs cloverAs
As to its being poison internally I Ihave Ihave Ihave
have never had any trouble and have havepastured havepasturccl havepastured
pastured all kinds of stock from fromhorses fromhorses fromhorses
horses to sheep sheepR R H Doyle Union UnionCo UnionCo UnionCo
Co O
I NO NO2 NO2hlle 2 2While 2While
While hlle this is my first fir t year car for sow sowing sowin sowin
ing in my m neighbors have been raising i ifor it itfor ifor
for a number of years ears and I am am s swell so soweIl sowell <
well convinced that I now have 4 4acres 40 40alres 40acres
acres seeded with it and the growth TOwth Is Iswonderful is iswondcrful iswonderful
wonderful While hlle horses with whit whitnoses whitcnoses white whitenoses
noses are more easily poisoned than tharothers thanothers thanothers
others I have pastured it with both hotlhorses bothhorscs bothhorses
horses and cattle and no bad results resultsfollowed rcsultsfollowed resultsfollowed
followed and mixed with timothy m mbetter nobettcr no nobetter
better hay can be found If desired desiredfor desiredfor desiredfor
for hay ha I would advise sowing timothy timothjwith timothywith timothywith
with it Many Ian sow it for seed alone aloneI
I have known it to yield eight bushels bushelsper bushelsIler bushelsper
per acre while a yield of four to six stobushels sixhushels sixbushels
bushels is not uncommon If desire desirCllfOl desiredfor < l lfor
for seed it should he sown on lane lanethat la landthat d dthat
that is not overrich It yields the tlubest the15t thebest
best seed on what we commonly call callupland call11pl callupland
upland 11pl a 1111 One of my neighbors never neveireseeds neycrrcscccls neverreseeds
reseeds but lets it reseed itself but butI butI
I believe it to be the best to sow sowlightly sowlightl sowlightly
lightly when necessary to reseed 1 1never I Inever Inever
never heard of any an land being injured injureilby injurcclhJ injuredby
by its use Try some < of it for hay hayand h3JfIIul hayand
and also for seed seedE E T Lowe Loan LogatiCo LoanCo LoganCo
Co O
0 0NO3
NO NO3 NO3In N O 3 3In 3In
In answer to D Simpson Wood Wood Co CoO
0 in regard to alsike clover will say sayAfter S3 S3After sayAfter
After a seed crop of alfalfa has been beertaken beentalicn beentaken
taken off in a dry year to all appear appearances 31lpearmces appearances ¬
ances it looks dead but the follow following follo folloin following
ing in spring it will come up much thick thicker ¬
er than first seeded if the ground ound Is Isnot Isnot Isnot
not cultivated Last fall my m field I cut cutfor cutfor cutfor
for seed was absolutely bare not a aparticle aJlnrtic1e aparticle
particle of clover grass gra s or even evenweeds eenweeds even evenweeds
weeds to be seen I sowed some timo timothy timoth timothy ¬
thy th seed ced and harrowed the ground groundthoroughly groundthoroughly ounll ounllthoroughly
thoroughly and last spring timothyand timothy tfmothynul
and clover came up and we cut a afair afair afair
fair crop of mixed hay from it itIn itIn ItIn
In regard to alsike being a benefit benefitto
to the ground the most experienced experiencedfarmer eXllerienccclfarmel experiencedfarmer
farmer that I know of in its use says saysthat sasthat saysthat
that its soil is better for corn than thaneither thaneithcr thaneither
either of the other clovers As to its itspoisoning itspoisoning itspoisoning
poisoning the feet or noses of horsethe horse horsethe horsesthe
the farmer spoken of above said he hehad hchad hehad
had pastured pas llrell fifteen acres continuous continuously ¬
ly I for fifteen years and no animal had hadhad hadhall hadhad
had a sore nose or sore feet Many Manyfarmers ManyfarmelS Manyfarmers
farmers in this count county are leaving the themedium themcdium themedium
medium and going to alsike the price pricefor pricefor pricefor
for seed being much more than for formedium formecIium formedium
medium Once in fifteen years two twocrops twocrops twocrops
crops of seed have been cut the same sameyear samerear sameyear
year One year seed was cut from al alsike alsilic alsike ¬
sike that ripened in the wheat stubble stubblefrom stubhlefrom stubblefrom
from which a crop of wheat had re recently recentl recently ¬
cently centl been cut cutTlie cutIhe cutThe
The writer this year cut fG < X G bushels bushelsfrom bushelsfrom
from 011 17 toy acres this being much the thebest thehest thebest
best yield heard of in the county countyThere calmt calmtThere countyThere
There is no better hay for sheep than thanalsike thannlsi1ie thanalsike
alsike unless it is alfalfa The dust dustis dustif
is if I not found on it like that on medium mediumclover mediacloverT t tcIOerr
clover cIOerr T S Baker Hardin Co O ONO Oo ONO
0 0NO4
NO NO4 NO4hcn 4 4When 4When
When hcn very ver dry dr and hot weather weathercomes weathercomc weatherconics
comes after the first cutting alsike alsikewill alsiliCwill alsikewill
will die otherwise not and it is a agreat agreat agreat
great soil improver As to poisoning poisoninghorses poisoninghorses poisoninghorses
horses with white feet and noses I
think it is another weed that does doesthat doesthat doesthat
that I know we we had a a weed that did didthat didthat didthat
that fifty tift years car < l ago before anything anythingwas any tiling tilingwas
was known of alsike I was the firstman first tirstman firstmail
man in our locality to sow alsike and andmy andm andmy
my m neighbors all saw that it was a agood agood agood
good thing thin and now nearly all sow it itwith itwith Itwith
with good results Our way is to sow sowthree sowthree sowthree
three quarts of timothy to the acre in inthe inthe inthe
the fall with wheat or rye and in the thelatter tlleIntter thelatter
latter part of March or first days in inApril inllrll inApril
April llrll when the soil < oll is honeycombed honeycombedthen hOtJecombedthen
then I sow my m clover seed I sow four fourbushels fourbushels I Ihnshels
bushels medium red clover seed and andone aUllOllC andone
one bushel alsike well mixed on thir thirty thirty ¬ I It
ty t acres with very good ood results It Itthen Itthen i ithcn
then gives g cs mixed hay lJa of the very elJ best bestquality best1lmlity bestquality
quality Last Tune we mowed a field fieldof flchlof fieldof
of eighteen acres and got fortyeiglit fortyeiglitfourhorse fortyeiglitfourhorse t tfonrhorse
fourhorse loads of the very best hay hayIt hayIt hayIt
It gives better yields and beter quali quality ¬
ty t when mixed and I have this exper experience experiencc experience ¬
ience that when red clover fails alsike alsikewill alsiliewill alsikewill
will be a success I have sown it for forthe forthe forthe
the last ten years cars and will never do dowithout dowithout dowithout
without it ItE E K Bohn Berks Co CoPa CoPn CoPa
Pa
Green Velvet Beans Poisonous PoisonousTo
To The Florida Experiment StationGentlemen Station StationGentlemen StationGentlemen
Gentlemen GentlemenA
A few days d1 s ago my family suffered sufferedfrom sufferedfrom sufferedfrom
from the effects > of something like likepoisoning li1eIoisoning likepoisoning
poisoning from eating green cen velvet velvetbeans velvetheatH velvetbeans
beans Will ill you kindly let ct me know knowif Imo Imoif
if there has l been > een en any an poison poison discover discovered ¬
ed in this variety of bean beanThe beanThe beanThe
The circumstances c leading up tcH tcHthe tt ttthe to tothe
the above inquiry inllu lY are as follows followsAt
At the grove rove hero we are growing growingabout growingabout growingabout
about 40 acres of velvet beans for formarket formarket formarket
market the beans now being well welldeveloped welldmeOped welldeveloped
developed in the pod but perfectly perfectlytender pcrfectlytendcr perfectlytender
tender and white I suggested to tomy tom tomy
my m wife that we have a few as an anexperiment ancxwriment anexperiment
experiment cooked for dinner in the themanner themanncr themanner
manner ordinary Butter beans are arecooked areCOOkCll arecooked
cooked viz boiled in salt water until untiltender untiltendcr untiltender
tender and served with a dressing dressingof
of butter black pepper and milk milkThis milkThis milkThis
This was wa done and at dinner the en enthe enthe enthe
the family which consists of my mywife mywife mywife
wife myself m self two < small JIall children aged agedand agedand
3 and 4 and a nursing nursin infant partook partookof partoolof
of the beans freely frecl and I freely freel con confess confess confess ¬
fess that in taste odor and appearance appearanceno
no variety Yarict of garden bean in our ouropinion ouris ouropinion
opinion is better The remaining ar articles articlcs articles ¬ I
ticles of food foo making up the dinner dinnerwere Ilinnerwere dinnerwere
were lightbrcad cornbread coffee coffeeboiled colTechoilel coffeeboiled
boiled ham stewed corn canned to tomatoes tomatoes tomatoes ¬
matoes pumpkin pie and grapefruit grapefruitserved grapefruitenccl grapefruitserved
served with sugar and cocoanut Also Alsobutter Asobutter Alsobutter 1
butter and sweet and butter milk All Allof Al1lof AllHof I
lof of which the fabily ate more or less lessDinner leRsDinner lessDinner
Dinner was served as is usual on onthe onthe onthe
the farm at twelve and no ill effects effectsappeared effectsnjJpearccl effectsajpearel
appeared until after the two small smallchildren smallchildren smallchildren
children had eaten their supper at atfive atfiye atrive
five oclock which consisted of bread breadand bread1lI1I1 breadand
and milk and were put to bed In Ina InCll Int
a t few minutes both children complain complained ¬
ed of being heln cold and commenced to toshiver toshiver tostriver
shiver with copious vomiting at short shortintervals lihortI
intervals until the stomach was en entirely enI entirely ¬
I
tirely empty Fever began he an to rise at atabout atahont atabout
about ten oclock and continued until untillate untillate untillate
I
late in the night when it disappeared
leaving both children pale and ex extremely extrcmel extremely ¬
tremely trcmel weak At about nine oclock oclockI
I was attacked in a similar manner mannerbut mannerbut mannerbut
but with more intense effects The Thechilly Thechl1l Thechilly
chilly chl1l sensation lasting for more than thantwo thantwo thantwo
two hours in my m lower limbs after afterwhich afterwhich afterwhich
which fever rose The nausea was wasintense wasintcnse wasintense
intense hut owing to digestion having having1completely havingcomplctcl havingcompletely
completely emptied the stomach no nothing nothing nothing ¬
thing was expelled My Iy wife was wasattacked wnsattnckccl wasattacked
attacked in precisely prel selO the same way wayabout wayabout wayabout
about twelve oclock oc k with the result resultthat resultthat resultthat
that the rigor lasted la tel but about fifteen fifteenminutes fifteenminutes fifteenminutes
minutes but was so violent that it itwas itwas itwas
was impossible for her to control her herlimbs herlimbs herlimbs
limbs even when in bed under several severalthicknesses severalthicknesses < 3eeralthiclmcsses
thicknesses of blanket blanketAs hlankets blanketAs
As s you ou will see from the above de description decliption description ¬
scription < of each case all were effected effectedin
in in about the same way The two twochildren twochildlen twochildren
children were able ableto to expell the beans beansfrom beanoSfrom beansfrom
from their stomachs and recovered recoveredmuch rccoveredmuch recoveredmuch
much quicker My 1 wife entirely re recovered recoered recovered ¬
covered in 35 11 hours but with me it itwas itwm itwas
was different having eaten the beans beanson
on Friday Frllla at noon the 13th and at atthis atthis atthis
this writing Sunday night I am still stillsuffering stilIsUffering stillsuffering
suffering of the weakness bavin having just justleft justleft justleft
left my bed this morning morningBeing mornln mornlnHeing morningBeing
Being situated eight miles from frommedical frommedieal frommedical
medical aid we had no doctor as no novery nocrJ novery
very crJ dangerous affects appeared or orrather orrn orrather
rather rn ther were over before we could send sendout sendout sendout
out It appears to me that a chenical chenicalanalysis ch che I1ical I1icallI1aJ nicalanalysis
analysis lI1aJ sis should be made of green greenvelvet greenychet greenvelvet
velvet beans both raw and boiled as asshould asshouhl asshould
should any an poisonous property be bepresent beprescnt bepresent
present in them people should be bewarned bewarncil bewarned
warned Thanking you in advance advancefor advancefor uhailcefor
for the requested favor and asking askingpardon askingpardon askingpardon
pardon for the length of this letter I ISncccssfnl Ialll ISuccessful
alll
Successful Cannery CanneryIn
In a talk to a TimesUnion reporter reporterW
W T AV Blackner manager of the theDelray theDelraJ theDelray
Delray packing and preserving plant planthas 1lanthns plantbas
has tli this to say sn about the success of oftheir oftheir oftheir
their canning business businessOur husinessOut businessOur
Our principal canned goods are arepineapples areIineapplcs arepineapples
pineapples tomatoes beans etc The Thepeople Thepc Thepeople
people pc ple all over Florida and many manycities manycitiS manycities
cities In eastern and northern states statesare statcsare statesare
are taking a great interest in this thisplant thisIJlant thisplant
plant which of course is encourag encouraging cncuura cncuurain encouraging ¬
ing in to i1 1 ut We make a specialty of offanning ofnuning ofcanning
fanning ripe fruits especially pine pineapples pineaifples ¬
apples which we can secure < direct directfrom directfrom directfront
from the fields fieldsWhile ficldhile fieldsWhile
While hile North Mr Ir Blackner closed closeda
a deal with a firm at Erie Pa for forq
q 10000 worth of his canned goods goodsAt oods
At t intervals for years past Orlando Orlandohas Orlandohas Orlandohas
has talked of establishing a canning canningfactory canningfactnr canningfactory
factory factnr During Dmin the palmy days of ofthe ofthe ofthe
the pineapple industry industl in this city it itwas itwas itwas
was a favorite topic of conversation conversationand convers = ation ationand
and samples < were even put up UI and andspeculated andspeculated
speculated upon The success of this thisDelray thisDellfi thisDelray
Delray Dellfi factory proves that our folks folkswere foikswere folkswere
were on the right ri ht track if they had hadcarried hallcarried hadcarried
carried it out The turtle canning canningplant canningplant canningplant
plant of this place though on a small smallscale smallscalc smallscale
scale seems to be a success Some Someenterprising SomeenteTIJri Someenterprising
enterprising enteTIJri < ing individuals will happen happenalong happenalong happenalong
along sometime and will put all our ourfarmers ourfarmcrs ourfarmers
farmers to work along this line

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