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A literal /lim-mint made to those who advertiso by > the year. X3r Subacribera may remit by mail, in bills of solvent banks, postage paid, at our risk; provided it shall appear by a postmaster's certificate, that such remittance has been duly mailed. A liberal discount will be made to companies of IJloe or more transmitting their subscriptions together. Postmasters, and others authorized, acting as our agents, will be entitled to receive a copy of the paper gratis for every five subscribers, or at that rate per cent, on subscriptions generally; the terms being fulfilled. Letters and communications mteuded for the estabishment will not be received unless the postage is paid. DEBATE IN THE SENATE. Prospective pre-emption bill. Wednesday, January 6, 1841. I The order of the day being the bill to establish a permanent prospective pre-emption system in favor of settlers on the public lands who shall inhabit and cultivate the same and raiae a log cabin thereon; ami the question being on the amendment offered by Mr. Prentiss, of Vermont, as a substitute for the whole bill, as follows: " Strike out all after the enactfng clause, and insert the following: That every actual settler on any of the public lands to which the Indian title haB been extinguished, except such as are hereinafter reserved, being the head of a family, or over twenty-one years of age, who was in possession and a house-keeper, by personal residence thereon, at the time of the passing of this act, and for four months next preceding, shall be entitled to a pre-emption in the purchase of tne land so settled upon, not exceeding one quarter section, at the minimum ljrice now established by law." Mr. TAPPAN, of Ohio, first offered, by consent, the following amendment: " And provided further, That no person, being the ownsr of land in any State or Territory, who shall quit or abandon his residence on his own land to reside on public land in the same State or Territory, h.u ?/iuin mv ri?ht of nre-emntion under this act." WMWH T1MMW?J "B r r Mr. NORVELL Expressed himself as opposed to the amendment, and demanded that the question on it be token by yeas and nays, Mr. BENTON made.p few remarks inaudible to the Reporter, but believed to have been in favor of the amendment. * Mr. LINN approved the object of the amendment, and thought he should vote for it; but believed there would be great practical difficulty in carrying it out.? He stated that when a section of new land was attached to the State of Missouri, on its northern border, men who held large property in the more settled portion of the State abandoned it, and went to settle . in this new district, that they might obtain pre-emptions. Such had never been the intention of the law. Its beneficent object was to secure a home to the pool man who had none, and not to hold out eno .urage1 men is to the wealthy to remove upon the public lands. The difficulty would be in carrying out the amendj ments, and Mr. L. wished for no law that could not be ' carried out. Whatever gentlemen might say, one (thing was certain?R was impossible to restrain the people of the West from going on the public lands.? - . Gentlemen might as well attempt to stop the course o: the Aier? or the winds. The law, in fact, was adoat leitei, uinl must no remain, whether pre-emntfon Uwi were passed or not. It was not, to be sure, a mattei of entire indifference, for there were some settlers whe did not wish to violate any law of the land; but whether such laws were passed or not, there wen those who would enter on the public domain. Thi whole force of the United States, were it ten time Seater than it is, could nover prevent it. Why not en, pass a general pre-emption law, and provide fo the case as it existed 1 The laws restraining se'tle mcnt could not be enforced. They never had been and Mr. L. thanked God that they had not. But, if f Congress should refuse a pre-emption law, what woul< be the practical result 1 The neighbors who had mad< , their settlement would come together with their riflei on the day of public sale, and the speculator, who wai there for the purpose of buying their farms over thei heads, would receive a very intelligible intimation tha his absence would be more agreeable than his compa ny ; and such " notice to quit" was in every case veri promptly obeyed. He thought, therefore, that th< amendment would be inoperative. A man might be . L _ . U_.l | , even required to swear mm ??u uw icuimtu uvu>. settled home to come on the public land, but in hov many various shapes would such an oath be evaded' Still, if the mover would ?? modify the amendment ai to require the oath as a security, Mr. L. was ready t< vote lor it. Mr. FULTON, of Arkansas, said that he was i representative of the log cabin interest, and it wai their policy to improve every foot of the public land a fast as possible. When the object of the bill was ti enabfc the hardy pioneer to get his little farm at som< two or three cents an acre lower than if he purchase! ft at the public sale, could it possibly be an object witl the Senate to prevent him 1 And, supposing a mat had made one improvement, was that any reason h should be prevented from making another 1 He migh have earned one home for himself, was that any rea son he might not wish to obtain another for his son The question being put on Mr. Tappan's amend mcnt, it was adopted by yeas and nays, as follows Yeas 26, nays 18. The question then recurring on the substitute fo I the bill proposed by Mr. Prentiss, of Vermont? Mjr.SEvlER demanded the yeas and nays; whic. were ordered. Mr. PRENTISS then went into a brief explanr Ition of the amendment, which, from the feebleness t hie voice, was but partially heard by the Reporter. H was understood as objecting to the bill before the Sen ate as being both prospective and as applying to land surveyed and unsurveyed. As it held out an inviti tion, not only to our own citizens, but to aliens fror every land, to come and settle without any cenditior its effect would be to make the public lands an objo< of general scramble. When former pro-cmption bill passed, they always required the lands to have bee first surveyed, and never before had it been propose to make them prospective in their operation. The evil that must follow were inconceivable. Thq bill wen in fact, to supersede the whole land system. It was totally new and untried experiment; such a oncaath Government never had sanctioned, and he hope never would. The whole pre-emption policy was < very doubtful expediency, even when made retrospe< tive in its operation. But this bill proposed an entii new, and, in Mr. P.'a apprehension, a dangerot scheme, and one utterly opposed to the true inleres of the country. Mr. P. had moved a substitute b < way of test of the intentions of the Senate. Mr. CLAY, of Kentucky, now rose and addresse the Senate nearly as follows : The amendment now offered by my friend fro Vermont, by drawing a line between the legislatin heretofore pursued with relation to pre-emptions, an the pew, comprehensive, and interminable legislatic MAnAMil w thnnrpRent bill, opens the whole questic I'lu^vu ... Y > . for diacuiaion; and I avail myself of the opportuni thus afforded, to present to the Senate some of tl general views I have taken of this subject, and I invit in the outset, the serious, and, 1 would say, the soleir attention of the Senate to the bill before it. Befoi however, I proceed to examine its provisions, alio me, in passing, to notice a most navel and surprisii doctrine advanced yesterday by the Senator from Ne York, (Mr. Wright ;) not that I purpose to discui at this time, >he position he assumed, but that I tin here enter my punlic protest against it, lest, should remain silent, it might be thought by any that I yic my assent to it. The Senator s position is, that it competent to a State, under the Constitution, to ado an unnaturalized foreigner to vote in our elections i I Tf VOL. IV NO. 3] wage no war against foreigner*. I respect them whei their character entitle* them to respect. I well know especially the value of the German yeomanry ; a het ter set of husbandmen does not exist on the face of tb< earth; honest, industrious, economical, admirabl judges of the soil, the best judges of laud in allth< country, devotedly attached to their families?that i the character of our German population as I have be come acquainted with it in my own immediate neigh borhood. I will not now stop to speak of the characte of the gallant Irish, whose virtues, and I will adiJ whose defects of character (the virtues far overbullan cing the defects) are so well known throughout th world. I am not the enemy of foreigners, but the opin ion expressed by the honorable Senator from Nev York, is one of immense practical importance; for if am not greatly misinformed, Preaident Van Buren owe the vote of one Stale of this Confederacy, I mean th State of Illinois, to the fact of unnaturalized foreign era voting at our late election, and casting their vote for him. I will not, however, enter on that subjeel and I have adverted to it now, merely that no conclu sion may be drawn from my silence that 1 approve e tolerate the doctrine advanced by the Senator fron New York. I here publicly express an 0|*iniondeci dedly opposite. 1 think that the exeicise of the elet tive franchise always implies citizenship, though citi zenship does not imply the right to the exercise of th elective franchise. I bold that a voter, whose vok may effect or change the entire policy of the country may alter or subvert the Conbtitution and laws of th country, is a component pait of the political power c the country. I hold that the power over the subjer of naturalization has been confided by the Constitutio exclusively to thu General Government, and that n State can constitutionally exeicise that power; an that, therefore, no State qai) confer those privilege ahd immunities, or grant those rights which procee from naturalization. This is my opinion, and 1 at vance it here merely a8 a counter-projet to that e> pressed by the Senator from New York. When foreigner lias once been naturalized, * regard him as brother, as a member of our political community, an as entitled, with some fe.w constitutional exceptions, I all the rights of native born citizens, and to the prote< tion anil dcfince of the Government at home an abroad; but until he has renounced hta allegiance I his foreign Sovereign, and sworn Ixdelity to our cour try, 1 cannot and will not?and I was utterly amaze to hear the gentleman from New York express a di ferent opinion?look upon him as incorporated in ot society, and authorized, by the exercise of the electn franchise, to exert an influence in/insettling or chanj ing our entire political policy, whilst as a subject of foreign Power, he lies under nil his original and natii obligations. If the contrary doctrine be admitted I be a sound one, then, as has been shown by a calci lation which I have seen, the Emperor of Russia, b a proper distribusion of 17,000 of his serfs among tl States of this Union (if the States would have pe mitted them to vote) might have changed the gloriou the triumphant result ofthe vote of November last, ar have continued those in power who, by the full, dec ded, and manly expression of the public will, hai been declared unworthy to be the depositaries of any longer. But it is with another subject that I have risen no to deal?the fearful extension now proposed to 1 given to the Pre-emption System. We have now hi a land system in operation for upwards of forty year Is there any thing in the practical effect of this o and long-tried system which should induce us to r pudiate it for a new, untried, and wild experiment What have been its results'? It commenced, aboi forty years ago, or a little more, in one of the gre Western members of the Confederacy, (the State Ohio,) the settlement of which took place as much twenty years later than in the case of her sister ar neighbor, Kentucky. And what is her populatu now 1 From the returns of the new census it is foui to amount to a million and a half of souls?near double that of my own State, although Kentucky hi preceded her by such a great length of time. And . we then go to Indiana, a still younger sister in tJ . great faintly of States, we shall find that she exhib a population of between six and 6even hundred the sand nearly equal to that of a State which was h . predecessor in the establishment of independent Sti , sovereignty by thirty years. I will not go throu| , the list All the members or the Senate are doubtli familiar with the returns of the late census. All the f great and astonishing results have taken place unc | that system which we are now asked to change, li , wise?is it prudent?is it statesmanlike, to reject a pi f nvni wtflok t.sv* pTorMxfcd r.ueh gterJcus timits, <? ) untried, and, as I believe, a most hazardous expc merit 1 3 What is the history of these pre-emption law B They arose, I think, in the first instance in the ci ? of what is called Symmcs's Grant. John Cleves Sy mes purchased from the Government a large tract f land between the Great and Little Miami rivers, . Ohio, including the spot where Cincinnati now stam He was unable to pay for it, but finally made a co J promise with the Government, and took a less amou I of land. He had, in the mean time, sold out to r u merous sub-purchasers, who, being innocent third pi 3 ties, and having purchased in good faith, were supp 9 sed to have a fair title to pre-emption for tho iinproi r ments they had made and the farms they had open I to cultivation. Congress, accordingly, granted . thein a right to purchase from the Government t z lands they held at the minimum price prescribed e law. Then came the cession of Louisiana, many 5 the occupants of which had settled on their fan 4 while that Territory belonged to the Spanish and t Y French Governments, under grants freely made, wh j others had entered on their lands with confidence th s according to the established usages and customs of t j country, donations of land would be obtained, totai unaware of the change of sovereignty which had pai x ed upon the country without consulting them. T 3 question then arose, what ought, in equity, to be do g in their easel And the American Government car to the conclusion that all who had thus come into p< p session of their land were equitably entitled to t j right of pre-emption, which was accordingly extend H to them. Next came a third case?that of the Kof 1 kia, Kaskaskia, and St. Vincent settlers in Illinois a e Indiana. These inhabited French villages were si t tied in some cases more than a century ago, and wt _ not drawn within the action of our land system t <1 about 50 years since. These people, having settl . under like circumstances to those in Louisiana, w< hi-lil r.-> have a claim couallv euuitable. and pre-empti was granted to them also, Tfhus the system stood I ,r 1830, under Gen. Jackson's administration. Thr for the first time, was introduced an entirely new pri I, ciple, and it is that which is contained in the subetitt for this bill proposed by the Senator from Vermoi There is, however, a wide JitTerence between wf ,f this bill proposes and the practice introduced unc e Gen. Jackson's administration. i. The pre-emption laws, as altered in 1830, allowei s right of pre-emption 10 all settlers on the public'lan k_ from a specified day, who should assert their rights I n fore the expiration of the law, the operation of whi , was limited to two years. This new principle cc tinned to he periodically re-enacted till some seven |g eight years ago, when it encountered a gallant resi n ance from a friend/ who I regret is not by my su ,1 but who has passed from this place, and, according |g public tumor, is destined to a more useful and high t sphere than even that of a seat in this body, august g it may be. Great frauds and abuses were detected p the execution of the pre-emption laws. Speculati ,1 freely used them. Floats especially were found to fraught with iniquity. With the efficient aid of I friend, (Mr. Ewing,) we succeeded in arresting, fo p time, these pre-emption laws. We succeeded in p ,g ting an end to special and unlawful privileges. \ succeeded in restoring the principle ot fair equality ,y the disposal of the public lands. But those interei speculative and others, which are always awa j always watchful, always on the alert, to get pie-emption laws, under the convenient and pli m sihle guise of benefitting the poor, made a rally n 1838. We were then told that not less than thi id thousand settlers had entered the Territory of lor in The Scna'e was assured that these persons could i in he removed from the public domain; that all them ty tary force of the Union would be insufficient to ie move them; and thus, under a species of moral durei Wrtn thrt low of : Anil it 1 Cj J vv\ i? Iiiuuv-ru v\? J/KO" ? ? m now been in operation for two years. But, not c e, tinted with ail the victories heretofore achieved, not i lVV isfied with pre-emption laws restricte<l in point of tii ,g and limited aa to the theatre on which they were to oj iw a,ci gentlemen now come forward with a new and b( (g) er, and more extensive demand. They have sudde become converts to log cabin doctrine, [a laugh,] a I | under a log cabin profession, they demand the passi 'Id a new 'aw< boundless in the space on which it u ojierate, or restricted only by the limits of the pul j * Understood to be the Hon. John Do vis. ?? 1 gpp *mIP?N v>1 " ?* 1 wp'WI v ii n? m in E MAD FOR THE WASHINGTON CITY, SATUR] i lands themselves, and illimitable as to time. Now r with regard to the sincerity of these gentlemen in tLeir - profession of log cabin principles, (though I am very e glad to see that they have profited by the very salutary e lesson afforded them within two or three months past,) a I like to test their profession by their votes. When s my colleague (Mr. Crittenden) offered an amendment, - the effect of which would be to confine the operation of r their bill to real log cabin men, to the veritable poor r who could make oath that their entire property was 1, not worth more than $500, where did we find these - new proselytes to log cabin doctrine 1 [A laugh.] e Were they ready to go with us in thus%estricting the i- bill 1 Were they prepared, by adopting this ainendv ment, to shut out from the privileges of the bill the I rich men?the " baron*"?the owners of manors?the s greedy speculator, and restrict it to the hardy settler e who sought a home for himself and his children. No, i- sir, no; every man of them voted it down. s Let us now pause a moment, and look a little at the t, distinctive provisions of this bill. Heretofore prei emption bills have been retrospective only; this is in r its operation both ietrospective and prospective. HereK;il? kauo hnan lliiiit?>rl AS til tUllP ! J Uliutr pCGOl^llUU Mil ir? u??o WWV.? ? , i- thin is unlimited in point of time so long as there rei mains a foot of land for it to operate on. Heretofore i- pre-emption bills were operative practically only wi'h e reference to some new land, recently surveyed and ? brought into the market: this bill is a proclamation to r, the whole universe, native or foreign, naturalized or e unnaturalized, that the moment the Indian title is ex* if tinguished to any portion of the land held by the :t United States, they may all rush in and take just as n much of it as they please, without even waiting for a 0 survey; and that all the other surveyed public lands of d the United States, amounting to about one hundred ? and twenty uiHl'ons of acres, oo matter how long they d have been in market, and although they may be purI chased at the moderate price of one dollar and a quarr ter per acre, are to be subject to the right of pre-empa tion. This, it is obvious, involves a complete change a in our whole land system; a thorough, radical, entire id change. It opens at once all the public lands, sur* to veyed and unsurveyed, to the operation of a pre-emp8 tion law. d And here let me stop and look for an instant at to what are said to be the sole advantages granted to the i- pre-emptor by this bill; a point on which there exists d the greatest possible misconception, either on the part f- of other gentlemen or myself. The whole practical ir difference which this bill is to work in our receipts re from the public domain is said to be some two or three j- cents per acre. Here is a message of the President a of the United States, sent by him to Congress in Dere cember, 1837. It is, in many respects, a discreet and to sensible paper, so far as ft treats on the subject of the i- public lands. The President here praises the old land >y system as it deserves. He describes those who entei ie on the public domain, without title or pretence of title r- as " trespassers," " intruders," and he recommend* g, the passage of one more pre-emption law, and ont id only, and after that the adoption of stronger measures :i- for the purpose (in his own language) " of preventing re these intrusions." The Senator from Missouri (Mr it Benton) spoke to us yesterday of the President as being a capital pre-emptioner now, although when ht w was here as a . Senator he was decidedly opposed U >e the whole system, and although when he came ink id office he talked about " trespassers" and " intruders' s. on the public lands, and recommended us to adopt Id measures to put a stop to these " intrusions" in future e- It would seem that the President is an attentive listen 1 er to the advice of his friends, and always open to con lit viction. I must admit that he has exhibited nst a lit at tie flexibility in yielding to the suggestions of someo of those who have his ears. I will make my positior as more general. I think that both the Secretary of thi id Treasury and the President have shown remarkable in case in opening their ears to the counsels of gentle id men who are strong advocates for pre-emption lawi ly and for the practical appropriation of the public do id main to the benefit of a few. The Secretary hai if brought down the receipts from the public lands t< he three millions of dollars. They were three million its in 1838, and the very next year they rose to sevei hi- millions. The receipts from this source have beei ler subject to great fluctuation ; the post year a little abov ite three millions. They are now sinking, and it seem gh that the more they sink the more he calls out for pre ess emption laws! pre-emption laws! graduation laws se to save him from that impending ruin in the adminii ler tr&tion of the public domain which his system is aboi :i.i_ I 11 vu IfllllCl. ff tiai, mr, is it pusmuic mat aujr uiauan what shall I say 1?that any man in his senses can t an' ri'li'-nlous a# to suppose that. l>x.rcdu< ri- ing the price of the public lands from a dollar and quarter to twenty-five cents, or, in some instances, t si 50 cents, you will get more money for thcml Y< ise that is the principle assumed by the Secretary of th m- Treasury, and it shows the opinion which operates i of his mind, and in. the minds of the friends of gradue in tion and pre-emption laws. I will not attempt to dei Js. cribe the whole of the consequences of this law. On rn- of its effects is to concert the existing cash systet int into a credit system. Do you not see it 1 What i iu- the fact as to the pre-emption laws heretofore granted sir- They gave the pre-emptioner a credit of two yean x>- The gentleman from Alabama (Mr. Clay) now limit re- his credit to one year; but, whether the term be one ed two, or three years, it changes our land system from to sale for cash to a sale for credit. And thus the whol he 120 millions of acres of the public domain will all pas by under this newly revived credit system. of And who are they who propose this change 1 Th m very men who decry all credit, who clamor for har< he money, who inveigh against banks, and denounce th ile credit system as the source of all our woes ! and ye at, here, now under the name of a pre-emption law, the; he propose to revive the whole credit system! Can it hi lly doubted that such will be the result of the bill 1 Wil as- any man, who can get his land on a credit of one o he two years, buy it for cash 1?especially when he cai ne dispose of his cash at a rate of 18 por cent, interest, a ne prevails in Illinois and some other new States 1 is- This is a grave feature in this new experiment, am he deserves the serious consideration of the Senate. Ti ed what will such a system lead 1 Have we had no ex io- perience on this subject 1 When you have parte< nd with your land from year to year thus on credit, yoi et- will at length have accumulated a mass of debtors oi re whose behalf petition after petition will be presentei till here, and their inability to pay will be most patheti ed cally set forth, till at last your compassion will be mov ?rc ed, and you will forgive these poor debtors the amoun on of their debt, and consent to take remuneration fo till their land in some other form of advantage to the pub in, lie service. i. - . . .i L. -.a. i i :J _?.i in- 11 ih not correct, uiougii it hum ueen muiu mm ic He peated by some gentlemen here, that the sole differ nt. ence effected by the pre-emption law in the price yot lat receive for the public lands is some two or three centi ler per acre. First, there is the difference of six centi which the President states; and how is this madi I a out 1 The public land is sold either by auction or a ids private sale; but owing to correction, to violence, t< :>e- combinations, and the open contempt of law, (a stati ch of things which has grown with the multiplication o >n- pre emption laws,) the proceeds of the auction salei or are now much less than formerly. I cannot bclievi st- with the Senator from Missouri, (Mr. Linn,) that th< Je, people of the United States arc incompetent to protec to their own property. I believe that it can be dome b< ter a steady, tirm, and upright administration of the Go as vernment. I believe that the people of the Unite* in States are capable of protecting their rights against al ors who assail them, whether from within or from with be out. Assuredly, if the Government cannot protec my what is its own, it must be very incompetent to^ro r a tect us and ours. But, I ask, how is the six cent ut- excess of sales over the minimum price, referred to b; Ve the President, made up1 It is got by running at in average over the total amount of sales, both by auctioi its, and by private entry. Now, the amount sold at auc ke, tion is not one-fourth, no, I believe, not one-tenth, par up of the whole. The Secretary takes the auction salc? ... where the IninU hr.nurht from !R!.r? to nil acre, am I*U" ? A "w? ? *rr I in spreads that amount of excess over the whole remain rt v ing nine-tenths of the total amount sold by private en va. fryi an,l then he makes an average, and uraws the in not ference that the whole gain in selling the public land ,j|i- in the established and customary method over whn re. they bring under the pre-emption laws amounts to bu ,flRi six cents an acre! Is this fair I But even this amoun has of "tx cents, under a proper administration of th on. system, would cover the whole expense of survey an iat- sale. But is that all I You are to add two years'in ne, terest on the minimum price, which, on a credit of tw ter- years, amounts to fifteen cents. If one year's cred >|d- only is given, it will be seven and a half cents, whicl nly added to the six cents, makes thirteen and a half cent nd, on every acre of the public domain, which would b age gained by the continuance of the old system, i to But more. This bill amounts to a virtual repeal r bile the auction. That system applies only to new land recently brought into market. But of what avail i an auction if you proclaim to the whole world thi ?JBBBi -"-W ISON1 COUNTRY. DAY EVENING, JANUARY 16, 1841. they may get the land at the minimum price if they will only coine and settle on it, and that beforesurveyl The entire existing svstem is superseded by the introduction of this "wooden horse," with all the means of injury with which it is fraught. I have now described, but not with all that force in which the circumstances of the case would warrant me, the difference between the old and long-established land system of this country and the new and fearful experiment now proposed. You must Irate seen that the change is to be thorough and radical. Now 1 put it to the Administration Senators in this body? to their candor?to their patriotism?to their sense of justice?is it tight, on the close of the administration of a dismissed ministry, to introduce a new and totally different policy in regard to one of the greatest interests of the country! Is it right, is it fair, that the policy of the existing Administration now passing out of power shall be made to lap pver on the new Administration without consulting them or paying the least regard to their judgment in the matter 1 The progress of the Administration of the American Government has developed in the practical operation of our system a new feature, and one of the most profound importance. A different political phenomenon takes place here from any thing which exists in Europe. In European constitutional Governments, when a ministry it dismissed or goes out of office, the King or the Queen, as the case may be, yields to the change of sentiment, and comes round with the nation. But here an Administration may be dismissed and it ill remain far months in power. What, in such a case, iB it their duty to do'! I will tell gentlemen what 1 would do in the like circumstances. I would institute no new measures of policy. I would simply keep the political machine in motion. 1 would giease the wheels sad repair and peterve all its parts in a statu of preparation for the performance ot those high duties for which the whole was constructed; but 1 would attempt nothing new in the permanent policy of the country, foreign or domestic. By such a moderate coarse alone can the evils of the anomaly to which I have adverted be prevented. I would not ask gentlemen to deny themselves a fair exercise of the Executive patronage from now till the 4th of March next I do not ask them to do what was done when Mr. : Adams was expelled from the Presidoncy?I should i say, lost his election. What did they do then 1 The , Senate refused to pass on important Executive nomi[ nations till afler the 4th of March, and then several of thftm Witp withdrawn and anhwfit iiIph ?pnt in hv th? new President The Spnate refused him the constitutional exercise of his official right from the time of his lost election till he went out of office. This I do not ask. I dare to say General Harrison, when he comes, will look at those whom he finds in office, and, if ho finds that they are honest and capable and faithiuI, that they have not been noisy and forward politicians, nor brought their official influence in conflict with the freedom of elections; if any such there be, (a laugh.) I hope he will let them stand (though I fear there will be but few) as monuments of the liberality of Whig Administration, acting on patriotic principles. (Sensation and remarks of "That's fair. But if gentlemen expect that General Harrison, because they, choose to rush on and make appointments, with a view to thwart his Administration, will, when he comes here, fear to do his duty, either they or I have mistaken the man. General Harrison means to be the President on the 4th of March next, which his fellow-citizens have elected him to be. And no premature bill, no stretching out of the policy of this into the next Administration, is going to restrain him from looking at those in office, and deciding for himself whether they possess the requisite qualifications for the discharge of their official duty. But, to come back. I put it to gentlemen whether it is right and fair to make this great change in the land system of the country at such a time! Would 9 you like us to do it if conditions were reversed 1 But there are other considerations which admonish 9 us a^iinst legislating on this subject at the present a time. We have not yet officially received the results 8 of the census for the last ten years; we cannot, theien fore, see whether the new States have filled up as rati pidly as we could wish. Let us first see what is the e number of their population; so that we may judge 9 whether any further stimulant is needed to quicken the rate at which their numbers increase. I know, i indeed, that the result will show directly the contrary From tables which I caused to be carefully construct ,t ed nine years ago, it is shown that the population o _ the new States increases at a rate vastly over that o ,e the old. Take a single example. The population o ._ Illinois doubles itself in six years! What, then, i "K" Ifce'gfOuitit for rtie aflttprWYibf this new system 0 Does it consist in some notions of charity to the poor 3t I have formerly adverted to that subject. Where d< ie gentlemen get theii right to set up eleemosynary lawi n tor the benefit of the poorer portions of the communi ty 1 But if they have, what will be the operation o the system in this respect 1 It is pretended to be foi e the advantage of widows and orphans, (orphans ovei n eighteen years, however.) Is any gentleman here ig g norunt of what will and must, of necessity, be the prac 1 tical operation of such a law? Will a widow ir Maine travel all the way to Missouri that she ma) I receive the boon proposed to be given her by this law i Will not its benciits be confined to the widows of thf locality ? In terms, to be sure, it proposes to contei 0 the pre-emption on all widows and minors. But will nol 8 the benefit, in fact, be limited to widows and minor* residing in the States within which the lands lie 1 e Surely. That, then, is the extent of your charity. j I am not very well, and I do not feel very much ene couraged by post experience in opposition to this bill t My hope is elsewhere; though I would trust that hop norablc Senators would at least pause before they take B such a leap. 1 There are other consequences on which I might r dwell. We have heard that this bill and another al^ lied to it are to increase the revenue: and I believe s that one of them was, pro forma, sent to the Committee on Finance on that ground. The new plan is, to j increase the resources of the now impoverished cxche0 quer; but I have already shown that, lor (he present . at least, the revenue will be diminished instead of inj creased by it; for the amount vested in the public j lands under this law will be on a credit of one or two 3 years, and cannot come into the Treasury till the end j of that time. And as those disposed to make such in. vestments will avail themselves of the credit, there will . be sales to but an inconsiderable amount fur cash, and t a consequent diminution of the proceeds during the r present year. Therefore, with an exhausted Trcasu. ry, with a vast national debt, ascertained and unascertained, besides a large amount, to be soon redeemed, of . Treasury notes outstanding and running on interest, . it is now proposed, instead of replenishing the empty coffers of Mr. Secretary Woodbury, by an imposition at once of duties on luxuries, to increase, instead of removing, the existing deficit in our pecuniary resources. Our land system heretofore has been the admiration of the world for one of its best and noblest features, 8 viz. me pcrrecr security u gave as 10 me lanu uiies 01 f our new settlements. No man who had eyes to see ? the marks upon a corner tree, or upon a stone standit ing in a prairie, could possibly mistake the limits of his e own tract; and no other man could have color of t right to disturb him on the ground of his title. Srcuf kity?absolute security in land titles?has been one - of the highest blessings in the new States. But are I you sure that this will con'iuuc to be the case under J your now pre-emption law 1 Do but conceive how it - will work. Imagine that a new district of rich and t choice land had just been thrown open. The Indian - title has been extinguished, but the fresh and fertile s lands have not yet been surveyed. They are open, y however, to the operation of this bill; and, in the a course of a few weeks, may become Worth from fifteen a to twenty dollars per acre. You proclaim to all who - come rushing in torrents upon tne new acquisition, t crowding, contending, scrambling for the fairest spots i, and best situations, that they shall have a pre-emption, il What scenes of confusion, contention, heart-burning, . VVhnn n itn. IIJ, V" iMWUDum, IUUBI liUiuiniij cimuvi '? ? "? i- tion, heretofore esteemed wiso and prudent in the - management of its public domain, proclaima to all the s world that the firat man who cornea and seizes on it it ahall have it, who can calculate, who can conceive the it confusion, disorder, and mischief which must ensue ? it Who can estimate the effects of the broad foundation e that will be laid for uncertainty, controversy, and litid gat ion in land titles 1 i- Again, this bill must work a vast increase of the o Executive power; for all disputed pre-emption rights it which, according to the cautious policy of Virginia, t, were referred to the decision of the Judiciary by caveat a or ejectment, or bill in chancery, are now ultimately e cast on the Executive of the U niter! States; for the bill provides that they shall be settled " summarily' >f and definitely by the Register and Receiver of the Is land district In which the dispute arises, these officer* is to decide under instructions from the Commissioner ol it the General Land Office. So, the disputant is put " ~Jr ^ j !,! J1 "J II [WHOLE NO. 156. under the Register and Receiver; the Register an Receiver are under the Commissioner; the Commit sioneris under the Secretary of the Treasury, andth Secretary is under the President. Thus, you add iuo mensely to the mass of Executive power, by drawin; within its vortex all the deputed claims through all th land districts. And now, I ask, what right nave yo ?and I put the inquiry more especially to that portioi of the Senate who have been in the habit of esteeinin it as their more peculiar province and duty to guar and defend the Constitution of the United Statesman who, perhaps, have sometimes pushed their zeal on thi subject a little too far)?what right have you, and ur der what principle, or provision of the Constitution especially after the clear and distinct separation in th Constitution of the Judicial from the other department of the Government?what right have y?u to give t the Register and Receiver of one of your land district this indisputable judicial power to decide a questio of title to real estate " summarily," without appea and without the intervention of a jury 1 And the what a temptation do you not present to public oflicei so fcitu&ted! Why, if I am rightly informed, thei was not long since a single pre-emption right near th town of Chicago, the value of which was at one tin estimated as hi<h as $r<J00,000; and the right to sue a property is to be entrusted to a Register and Receivi absolutely and without appeal! Can there be great danger of corruption, or, at least, of favoritism 1 T1 power is tremendous. Mr. President, I have said much more than I ii tended. Both your comfort and my own require th I should here stop; and I.will stop with repeating nc most anxious entreaty to those honorable gentlemc whom in political sentiment I have the misfortune I oppose, that they will pause before they sanction a untried experiment of such enormous magnitude, ask them to wait for the results of the late census; i compare the population of the new and the old State and the relative rate at which both axe increasing; an before they part with a land system which is at th hour the pride and ornament of the legislation of tl Congress of the United States, and which has brougl to the nation such rich and invaluable fruit, to [*use to pause!?and if they will not abandon the plai t that they will at least consent to embark on these tie' experiments with greater light to guide their court than that which they now have. ?toeutg*Sf*th Cortflress. SECOND SESSION. IN SENATE. Tuesday, Jan. 12, 1841. Memorials and petitions were presented by Messr Norvell, Pierce, Ruggles, Wall, Hubbard, and Bei ton. reports from committees. By Mr. PHELPS, from the Committee on lndit Affairs : A bill for the relief of Gary Hinant. Also, from the same committee, an adverse report c the claim of Wm. Dickerson. By Mr. SEVIER, from the Committee on lndit Affairs: A bill for the relief of Sarah M. Charlb and others. By Mr. LINN, from the Committee of Priva Land Claims: A bill for the relief of Jaques Bon ai Alexander Coleman. By Mr. CLAY, of Alabama, from the Committ on Public Lands: A bill to regulate the land offices the State of Indiana, and for other purposes, with i amendment. By Mr. YOUNG, from the Committee on Roa and Canals: Asking to be discharged from the cc sideration of the following memorials: From the Directors of the Mount Carmel Railro Company; from the Legislature of Louisiana; a from the citizens of Allegany in relation to the na gation of Allegany river By Mr. HUBBARD, from the Committee Claims: An adverse report on the petition of Ro Hopkins. | bills introduced, i The following bills were introduced, on leave, tw read, and appropriately referred: ' By Mr. CLAY, of Alabama: A bill for the rc . of the Eagle Railroad and Lumber Company, f By Mr. YOUNG: A bill for the continuation f the Cumberland road through the States of Ohio, f diana and Illinois. a Mr. TAPPAN moved to amend the 9th joint i J* "f tho two Hew^s as follows, which was order*-' i be printed : a " That before any committee of either House s Congress shall report a bill in favor of any prii - claim, it shall be the duty of the chairman of s f committee to call upon the proper department, with r business of which said claim is connected, for r puch facts and evidence as may be in possession ' such department, or any officer thereof, touching si claims; the answer to which shall be reported w i said bill." [ The following bills were severally considered as , Committee of the Whole, and ordered to be , grossed: t A bill confirming to George TuckeT, his heirs or [ signs, a certain tract of land in Alabama. A bill to authorize the Legislature of the State Arkansas to sell the lands heretofore appropriated the use of schools in that State. A bill for the relief of Francis Laventure, Ebene Childs, and Linus Thompson. , A bill to perfect the titles to lands south of the J kansas river, held under New Madrid locations a pre-emption rights, under the act of 1814. A bill for the relief of Daniel Steenrod. A bill for the relief of James M. Morgan. A bill for the relief of Francis* Gehon. A bill for the relief of James H. Relfe. A bill for the relief of Jubal B. Hancock. A bill in addition to an act to promote the progrf of the useful arts. A bill for the relief of Charles M. Keller and Hen Stone. A bill for the relief of Thomas Haskins and Ral Haskins. A bill lor the relief of Joseph Bogy. A bill for the relief of Thomas B. Copes. A bill for the relief of John C. Reynolds. A joint resolution to authorize the Secretary of t Treasury to extend further indulgeince to certain c . i?1.~ pUDii?c uuunn. SPECIAL ORDER. The Senate then proceeded to the discussion of t special order, the bill relating to the permanent a; prospective pre-emption system, when Mr. CALHOUN rose and addressed the Senate length in favor of his substitute for the amendment Mr. Crittenden. Mr. CRITTENDEN followed, and was replied by Mr. BENTON, when, at a late hour, the Seni adjourned. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Tuesday, January 12, 1841. Mr. ADAMS had leave to present a petition Redman Burke and George Wix, complaining tl they have been discharged from work on the pub buildings in Washington: which was leferred to I Committee on the Public Buildings. Mr. GREEN asked the consent of the House to troduce the following re-olution : Resol ed, That the Committee of Ways and Met be instructed to inquire into the expediency and i cessity of laying such duties, for the purposes of re nue, upon wines and silks, and such other articles luxury imported into the United States, as will m the necessary expenditures of the Government, a pay off the debt already incurred by the issue of Tr sury notes, and all such othei debts as may be owi by the Government of the United States, and tl said committee report by bill or otherwise. Mr. TURNEY called for the reading of the reso lion. It was read accordingly, i Mr. PICKENS was proceeding to make some i marks; when Mr. HUBBARD objected to the introduction i the resolution ; and there the matter ended, i Mi. CAMPBELL, of S. C., asked leave to intr. duce a resolution directing the Speaker to issue a su ptrna tim es tecum to Samuel Hart, clerk of the cou ' in Philadelphia, to appear before the House with tl j election returns of member of Congress for the j ' district of Pennsylvania, in 1838. . I Many members objected to the introduction ot tr , resolution, and it was returned to Mr. Campbell, r Mr. SERGEANT, from the Committee on the Ji ; diciary, to which were referred four bills from tl ' ss?. ^ r."- - Senate, vig; for the relief of W*IUi Loamis and Abel Gay; for the relief of Clements, Bryan A Co.; for the reliefof JehnMore; and for the relief of John Carter, moved to be discharged from the consideration of the aid bills, and to refer the three first named to the Committee of Claims, end the lad to the Committee for the District of Columbia; which was agreed U>. Mr. SaaoctNT alao reported the Senate bill further to amend the act providing for taking the Sixth Census, with a small amendment, which was adopted ; and = the bill was then read the third time, aui passed. IMPRISONMENT FOB DEBT., . Mr. SERGKA NT reported the bill from the Senate supplementary to the act to abolish unpriobauicril for d debt in certain cases, without amendment. >- Mr. S. explained the provisions of the bill, and the , a urgent necessity that existed for immediate action upon i* it. And he asked that it might now be put to its third g reading. e Mr. ADAMS moved to amend the bill by striking u out the words " or shall hereafter* be," and gave his n reasons for proposing the amendment, contending that 5 the act, as it now stood, transferred to the States the power which, under the Constitution of the United d States, belonged to Congress. d The amendment was discussed briefly by Messrs. i- Monroe, Thompson, of Mississippi, Fillmore, Curtis, I. V&nderpoel, Barnard,and Pope. , e Mr. EVERETT inquired if it was intended that '* the effect of the bill should be retrospective 1 If that 0 was to be the effect, be thought that the bill itself ought Is not to pass. u Mr. HABERSHAM objected, he said, to the whole I, bill, as well ss to the bill passed at the last Station of n Congress; for he believed the operation was partial, rs He moved, therefore, to recommit the bill to the Comre mittce on the Judiciary, with the following instruc- j >e lions: h "To report a bill to abolish imprisonment for debt er under process issuing from the Courts of the United ? -J* er States in all caaes except where the judgment shall be I'm against an officer of the United States for a defalcation in his office." Mr. PECK sustained briefly the motion to recomttt mil y Mr. SERGEANT explained his views in relation n to the constitutional point as between the United J t0 States and the several States, and earnestly opposed the amendment. 1 Mr. BRIGGS here roae, and reminded the House h> that Mr. Naylor, who was entitled to the floor in \ , Mi *< continuation of his argument, had yielded to bis col- \ j >d league, (Mr. Seroeant,^ under the supposition that ix the bill would be dispoaeoof in a few moments? i" When several voices called for the " previous quesit tion." ? Mr. VANDERPOEL said he would move the pre?> vious question if the gentleman from Massachusetts w (Mr. Briggs) would give way. ? And Mr. BRIGGS havingyielded the floor? Mr. VANDERPOEL moved the previous quesS tion. And there was a second. The SPEAKER said that the previous question would cut aff the motion to recommit, and would bring the House to a vote, first on the amendment, and then on the third reading of the bill. And the House ordered that the main question should bo now put. g Mr. ADAMS asked for the yeas and nays on his amendment, which were ordered, and, being taken, were yeas 31, nays 110. So the amendment was rejected. And the bill (having been ordered to a third reading m at this time) was read a third time and passed. It is in the following words. >n A BILL supplementary to an act to abolish imprisonment for debt in certain cases, in Be it enacted by the Smote and House of Repre)n 4rentativea of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the act entitled "An act to abolte ish imprisonment for debt in certain cases," approved ad February twenty-eight, eighteen hundred ana thirtynine, shall be so construed as to abolish mprisonment ee for debt, on process issuing out of any court of f.ho in United States, in all cases whatever where, by the an laws of any State in which the said Court shall be held, the i nprisonment for debt has been, or shall ds hereafter be, abolished. n- Mr. SERGEANT, from the Committee on the Judiciary, reported three bills from the Senate, viz. ad To confirm to the State of Indiana, the land selectnd ed by her for that portion of the Wabash and Erie cavi nal which lies between the mouth of Tippecanoe river iv and Terre Haute, and for other purposes. \V f , of To prevent the counterfeiiting of any foreign copper, \ yal gold, silver, or other coin, and to prevent the bringing into the United States or uttering any counterfeit foreign copper, gold, silver, or other coin/ To amend an act entitled An act more effectually to ' ,ice provide for the punishment of certain crimes against the United States, and for other purposes. These bills were then committed to the Committee /, of the Whole on the state of the Union j, ' 0 Mr. CAMPBELL, of South Carolina, again asked i ln" leave to move a resolution, which was read at the '; Clerk's tabls, and is as follows: W 7to Retailed, That the Speaker of this House J quested to issue a rubpatna duces tecum to Samuel Hart, Esq. prothonotary of the Court of Common 1 Pleas for the city and county of Philadelphia, direct? ing the said Samuel Hart, Esq. to appear personally jfl or by deputy before this House at 1 o clock, P. M. on ! ? Friday, the 15th instant, with the election returns and al' other papers on file in his cffice relating to the Con- f\t -k Kre88'ona' Election in the Third Congressional Dis " tnct in the State of Pennsylvania in 1838, there to be ',l'1 examined in evidence in the case of the contested election now pending between C. J. Ingersoll and in Charlea Naylor, from the said Congressional District. / en- Several members objected. Mr. CAMPBELL then moved a suspension of the - \ as rules to enable him to introduce the resolution, and the question was put and decided in the negative with- M | i of out a division. for PENNSYLVANIA CONTESTED ELECTION. V 7er The House resumed the consideration of the case \ I of the contested election from the Third Congression^r. al District of the State of Pennsylvania between Mr. nj Naylor and Mr. Ingersoll. Mr. NAYLOR resumed his argument from yester- | day in support of his right to the seat now held by 1 him ; and before he had concluded, " .1 S The House adjourned. ? I IN SENATE. f I Wednesday, Jan. 13, 1841. . I The Senate met at the usual hour, 12 o'clock. j l ph After prayers and reading of the journal, Mr. . I Kerr, Senator from Maryland, appeared, was quali- I fied, and took his seat. 1 After othei morning business, of an unimportant cha- I 1 racier, consisting of private bills, &c., z-'lffl j he Mr. KING, according to previous notice, on leave, I |e. introduced a bill regulating our commercial intercourse I I with the port of Cayenne in Guiana. IB I Also, a bill to authorize the Secretary of the Trea- \l 1 sury to refund certain duties collected on the French I he ship Alexandria; both which, on motion of Mr. K. 1 ml were referred to the Committee of Commerce, together 'TuB with the correspondence relating thereto, and ordered ^ at to be filed in the Clerk's office. of The resolution of Mr. Tappan, offered yesterday, I came up in order, prescribing certain duties for the I to chairmen of committees of Congress, in relation to .to nrivate claims: which was laid over. Mr. GRAHAM, from the Committee on Revolu- I tionary Claims, reported a bill authorizing the building I of a monument in commemoration of the services of H Brigadier Generals Davidson and Nash, of North Ca- I rolina, who fell in defence of their country : which I was read, and ordered to a second reading. I P The bills yesterday ordered to be engrossed (which fl 0 are noticed in Tuesday's report) received their third fl y reading and were passed. fl 'lC The morning hour having expired, the Senate re- H ' e sumed the consideration of the pre-emption bill. The H question now pending being on the amendment propo- H in" sed by Mr. Calhoun to the amendment of Mr. Critten- H den : on which? fl in' Mr. PRESTON was entitled to the floor. ie" Mr. PRESTON then rose, and with his accustom ve". ed ability and skill enchained the attention of the Sen 1 ? ate in a speech of an hour and a halt, in opposition to ee, the amendment. fl Mr. SEVIER then rose and expressed a desire of ea' speaking, but as the hour was late, moved that the far nR ther consideration of the subject be postponed till to lat morrow; which was agreed to. Mr. PHELPS then submitted a resolution in rela- fl 'u~ tion to the death of the Sergeant-at-arms; directing I the Secretary of the Senate to pay the sum of five fl re" hundred dollars to the order of the wiJow of Stephen I Height, deceased,,late Sergcant-at-Arms of the Sen- fl ?' ate, to defray the expenses of placing his body in a se- fl cure coffin, properly protected, in the Congressional fl burial ground, at Washington, and the expense of th? I transoorlation of ihe bodv to his friends in Vermont. I rl and its burial there; ami that he further pay to the I ,e aaid widow, the salary of the tleeeaaed, for the reaidue M W of the term for which he was elected. After Rome conversation on the resolution by Meaara. 16 Wright, King and White, it was adopted. The Senate then proceeded to the consideration of l" Executive business, and, after a short session, ad- I ,e journed 1