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TWO SAY CIVIL WAR WILL BRING RUSS TO THEIR SENSES Americans From Republic Say inrniinff is the Real Man to Bring Order Out of Chaos; Slavs Hate bngiisn Let Russia have one year for smashing good civil war and then she will be all right. General Korniloff's defeat by the Kerensky faction was a shame. Feeling against the Americans is net yet much In evidence In Rus sia, but the Russian attitude against the English is one of in tense anger. This hatred is also reflected by the English toward the Russians. Before the Kerensky provisional government wss overthrown It was very evident more trouble was coming. Korniloff is now at liberty and is In Moscow with two former provisional government men "hatching up" something which may yet save Russia. He Is nei ther a radical Socialist nor Roma noff lover, but a believer In prose cuting the war against Germany. Harbin is an "outlaw town."- It Aimht tn h noticed. In the abore sentiments four American businessmen from various parts of the United States size up the situation, past and present, in troubled Russia, where they have beenjin the interests of their linns lor i three years. They are L. Worrell, Chicago road machinery man; R. Matthews,, sales man of machinery for the manufacture of ammunition; G. G. Young, salesman for a Boston automobile firm, and J. M. Renfrew, representative of the Gen eral Electric Co. All of them are in Honolulu today bound for "home." With the exception of Matthews, they left Petrograd two weeks before the overthrow of the Russian provis ional government by the Maximalists and Bolsheviwi socialiotlc f actions. He left only a day or two before the out break and the overthrow of Kerensky. Frankly they admit, with American candor and expression, that "things vere getting too hot for comfort or business" in Russia. Although there was revolution and Enarchy in the air, it was really the collapse of Russian credit which drove them out of Russia, much as they ad mit the situation was one not promis ing for personal safety. Before it was generally known to the outside world that Russian credit had become unre liable they had advised their firms to accept nothing but American dollars in New York or other International ex change cities. "There were plenty of Russian ru bles, but they were 'all Mex to us. We did business In the ' last few months strictly on an American dollar In New York basis," one of them ex plained. . "What Is the feeling of the Russian people towards Americans?" "Oh, they were treating us all right, even good naturedly standing our talk ing to thena In Jargon Russian. But their attitude always depended on who had talked to them last That's im portant about the Russians. The man who talks to them last will have the raost Influence erai If he was the first one, they replied collaborate. Continuing, one of the Amerlcani added: "The Russian feeling against the EngUsfils intense. Yes, he admit ted to a side remark of a companion, "It Is reflected in the English hatred of the Russians" Asked when internal affairs would be different In the great northern country, they again collectively an swered: "There will be hopes In about & year after Russia has had an opportunity for a smashing civil war and some body gets In control. It was a shame Korniloff was defeated. He was Rus sia's best bet a few months ago. How ever, he Is at liberty now and Is In Moscow 'hatching trouble for his ene mies." Later it was explained that Mellin koff, first president of the provisional government, and Rodzlnka, another prorslonal government man in the earlr days, are aiding him. . When told that Japan had an nounced she was to send an army to Harbin and another to Vladivostok, one of the Americans declared: "Well, Harbin certainly needs it. She Is an outlaw town now." No one of the Americans would pre dict how Russians would accept the sending of either Japanese or Ameri can armies to her country. They are a Jealous people, even though extremely good humored in some respects," was the only com ment. - CHURCH LEADERS Fred B. Smith will address a speci ally . invited group of church leaders at a supper conference to be held in the Christian church this evening. Supper will be served at 6 o'clock. "A Stronger Church for the New (World" Is the topic chosen by Mr. Smith for his address, which will deal with united efforts on the part of the churches. As chairman of the Com mission on Inter-Church Federations of the Federal Council of Churches of Christ in America, Mr. Smith Is a national leader In this movement Mr. and Mrs. Smith leave for the mainland Wednesday morning after a two weeks' stay In the Islands. After taking a leading part in two large conventions, Mr. Smith expects to sail for France to do his part In helping win the war. A letter has been received by the board of supervisors from Harry S. Mueller, secretary of the City Planing ; Company of Wichita; Kansas, asking for a copy of the report The Beauti fying of Honolulu." to be used In gath ering data for plans for beautifying the city of Wichita. TO HEAR SMITH RACES MINGLE AT UNVEILING OF LONDON BUST "If the Ea6t and West must meet somewhere, then let those who under stand both East and West be the teachers," said Representative Henry W. Temple of Pennsylvania in a talk before more than 100 representatives of all races at the Pen-Pacific Union dinner at Lanikea last evening. "Here in these Islands you have a chance to make one half of the world understand each other. Your organi zation, which is formed primarily to bring together the peoples of the great Pacific has solved the problem. We must learn to know each other, and we must not forget that the races of the East can teach much to the races of the West and we can teach the East." Dr. Temple's talk brought applause from the many members of the various races who were gathered around the tables. There was a general spirit of good fellowship, and each guest pres ent Mas asked to stand up and tell his name and his business: Among-the speakers were Governor Lucius E. PInkham, Dr. Temple, Rep resentative J. Arthur Elston, Wallace R. Farrington; W. F. Ftear, R. O. .uatheson. Representative Oscar Bland, Representative Edmund Piatt, Representative B. F. Welty, Y. Sogam, William Kwai Fong, W. C. Pong, and John C. Lane. Alexander Hume Ford, the ruling spirit of the Pan-Pacific movement, was complimented for the great work which is being carried on to bring the peoples of the Pacific into closer rela tlons. His large pumpkin pie occu pied a prominent place in the center of the room. The one pie was en ough to feed 500. Congressman Elston of California outlined the character of the late Jack London, saying that London was one of the biggest figures In literature, and he was pleased to unveil the bust of a Callfornian who had carried his message throughout the Pacific. As the; bust was unveiled the crowd stood at attention. Governor Pinkham said that he had been a friend of Jack London and had always found the friend of Hawaii a real man in evary sense of the word. He brought out the fact that London had visited - Molokal and had come back with 'a real story to tell to the world. Mr. Matheson said that he had been a close friend of London's, and had at one time written an article which caused an enmity between the writer and. himself. He remarked that in time he had eaten his words and had come to appreciate the true worth of the man. Representative Oscar E. Bland of Indiana told of Hawaii's problems, and remarked that one of the things which was outstanding was the love of country shown by the residents, and he believed that the people of Hawaii were more universal In purpose than the people on the mainland. Wallace R. Farrington, who was asked to officiate in cutting the big pie, told the guests that the pie belt of America was in the New England states, but, westward the course of pie was wending its way, and Cali fornia had given to Hawaii and Ha waii in turn would give the pie knowl edge to the peoples of the Orient William Kwai Fong told of the prob lems that confronted the Chinese peo ple in Hawaii, and remarked that many of the Chinese here were real American citizens in every sense of the word. He said that his son had joined the colors, and wanted to be a real American. Y. Soga, editor of the Nlppu JUL de fended . the system of teaching Jap anese to the children In Hawaii. He said that the children, could learn much from the traditions and langu age of thai Japanese people, and be lieved that for the best interests of the Americans and Japanese the chil dren should learn the language of their fathers. : Representative Piatt of New York remarked that here was a gathering of the races In a friendly spirit He added that the old families of the Revolutionary period were being placed in the melting pot with the others! "It is time that, every nationality laid the cards on the table and show what they have," said B. F. Welty, representative from Ohio. He said that we ought to know each other bet ter, and then we will be able to work together. He said that America was for Americans and did not believe that we should Import 30,000 Chinese to Ha waii unless they wanted to become real Americans. Walter F. Frear said that there was an absence of race feeling in Hawaii and laughingly remarked that Instead of a pumpkin pie Hawaii was a minced pie. John C. Lane gave his Aloha to the visiting congressmen and remarked that Hawaii had men big enough to handle the land law situation without the assistance of the congressmen. W. C. Pong pointed out that America was one. country which had been kind with the Koreans and the Koreans in Hawaii were living as brothers with the members of the other races. Those present were: Hon. Henry Lee Myers, Japanese Con sul R. Moroi, R. o. Matheson, Portu guese Consul A. de Pessoa, Hon. J. Arthur Elston, Chinese Consul Woo huan Twang, W. R. Farrington, Hon. Joseph Fern, Hon. Miles Polndexter, Prince Kuhio, Governor L. E. Pinkham, Placido Alviar, D. I. Mori, Hon. Wal ter F. Frear, Wm: Yap Kwai Fong,Hon. Oscar E. Bland, Hon. Wm. H. Thomp son, C. K. Al, Jno. McCandless, Chas Chilllngworth, M. C. Pacheco,-A. L. Castle, T. Imai, Link McCandless. Hon. BenJ. F. Welty. K. Yamamoto, T. Ka wasaki, Hon. John C. Lane, Hon. Jas. V. McClintlc, Mr. Chuck Hoy, Geo. A. Brown, Rev. S. C. Park, Y. Soga, Geo. P. Denison. A. D. Castro, Hon. Thos. Gallagher, Wong Lung, John Guild. A. H. R. Vielra; W. C. Tong, D. B. Mur doch, H. L. 'Holstem; !Hon. Wm. E. Carter, Hon. Saml. J Nichols, Rev. A. Akana. R. H. Trent T. S. Lee. Dr. Dai Yen Chang. F. E. Blake. M. Okumura. Hon. Edmund Piatt, Hon. Henry W. Temple, : Ho Fon, Gen. Sam Johnson, I Portuguese Organization Re fuses to Accept Authority of Purported Mainland Head - Because a man claiming to be the supreme president of the mower or canirAtinn on the mainland demand ed the books, documents and funds of the Sao Madeira Society, a local ror tumiP hranch lodge, in order to el feet a purported reorganization of the Honolulu society, the memoers oi ui Sao Madeira have retained attorneys m Hpriarft that, if necessary. the will go to court to determine their rights. - ' At the nolicfi station today is the day book of the local society, which. members declare, they piacea in i" hands of "Sheriff Charles H. Rose last night for safe keeping, after they had refused a demand of the so-called su preme president of the mother lodge to turn it and other documents and funds over to him. The supreme president, say mem f th( San Madeira, came here about two months ago for his health. He is said to have attended a recent meeting of the society, but did not an nounce" that he was the supreme presi dent. He was approached by mem bers and told that, if he were an offi cer, they would appoint a committee to welcome him and formally present him to the other members. He is said to have declined this courtesy, insist ing that he was not an officer. It is further alleged that the su preme president exhibited a letter, supposedly from the California lodge, to the effect that, if. the Sao Madeira Society was disorganized, he should reorganize it and take charge of the books and funds while the reorgani zation was in progress. A member of the Sao Madeira declared today that the members of the society had re fused to surrender the books on the ground that the society was not disor ganized and that it had the right of appeal before any action could be taken. A meetine was Held last night at which, members say, the so-called su preme president called for a vote for the admittance of a man who is al leged to have been refused member ship on a number of occasions. They declare that on one occasion it was necessary tn call in the police to have this man ejected from the meeting place. Members sav.that the visitor then demanded that the books, records and funds be turned over to him, and thai thev refused, whereupon he attempt ed to secure possessio nof the minute book. The president of the local so ciety then advised the members to submit the matter to the local courts to determine the righs of the local so ciety. Members say that the Sao Madeira is not disorganized and that there is no apparent ground for a re organization at this time. It was reported today that both the society and the so-called supreme pres iden have retained attorneys. Mrs. Ella Peabody Osborne of this city died shortly before noon today at Queen's hospital following an ill ness of more than a year and a half, and which had rendered her a con stant invalid for the last several months. Funeral arrangements will be announced later. Mrs. Osborne, whose maiden name was Ella Western Peabody, was born at Newburyport, Massachusetts, March 22, 1852, and was thus 65 years, 8 months and 5 days of age. She was the widow of Amos Wright Osborne of Colorado, whose death occurred in 1908. A little after her nusband's death, Mrs. Osborne, accompanied by her niece, who was then Miss Julia Pea body, came to Hawaii to Join rela tives. Mrs. Osborne became matron of Mills school, and held that position for three and one-half years. She later taught in a private school on Kauai, was manager for a year at Kaiulani Home in this city, and still later took private classes in English and mathematics among the young Ori entals of Honolulu. She was a mem ber of Central Union church and an active church woman. She took a silent pride in the active and success ful part she played in the fund rais ing campaign of the Y. W. C. A. some months ago. In May of 1916 she underwent a critical operation from which she re covered quite fully, but the following February she was compelled to under go another which left her much weak ened. After this she never again re gained her former strength, though her courage and optimism during these days was remarkable, as she seldom referred to her suffering and bore it cheerfully. As a young woman Mrs. Osborne had exceptional vocal talents and delight ed in solo and chorus work. Near relatives in Hawaii are Mrs. Anna Peabody Dodge and Mrs. Grace Peabody Boardman, sisters; Mrs. Frank E. Blake, Mrs. John F. Stone, Miss Charlotte Dodge and Miss Anna Johnson, nieces; Mr. Francis Dodge, Mr. H. Stuart Johnson and Mr. Horace Johnson, nephews. Sablroco Samonta, K. Yasumorl, Mi McClellan, Mr. Kinney, Hon. Louis B. Goodall, Hon. Allan T. Treadway, Kim Tong Ho, J. L. Coke, Juan Rajala, Ka shlro Shibayama, Rev. Stephen L. Desha, S. W. Cho, Hon. Jas. McLaugh lln, Hon. W. E. Hess, James Wong Leong, F. H. Halton, J. L. Holt, Hon. Sydney Mudd, Curtis laukea, Ching Shal, Rev. T. Horl, Duke Kahanamoku, Hon. E. Lundeen. Owen Merrick, E. P. Irwin, A. P. Taylor, R. J. Baker, Chas, Wong, Chu Gem, Dr. S. Rhee, Lee Let. K. Ishida, A. J. Erly and Hon. C. Frank Reavis. Advertising never offered such gol den rewards as on the eve of. Hono lulu's most prosperous Xmas season. Get veur sharf, Mr. Merchant! MRS. OSBORNE IS CALLED BY DEATH HARDQR BOARD IS OUT $5000 Uvlu OF PUBLIC MARKET TO PACT FAILURE IS DISCONTINUED Failure of the Standard American Dredging company of San : Francisco to carry out an alleged plan to bid on the placing of a hydraulic fill on Pier 2, Honolulu harbor, has cost the ter ritory the useless expenditure of ap proximately 15000. As the result of an understanding between the harbor board and the dredging company's representative th dredging company's local representa tive that hydraulic material could be placed on the fill at a low figure, thus providing a big saving to the terri tory, a wooden retaining wall was constructed on the pier site at a cost of $4,867 some months ago. The wall has Just been removed by the harbor board in order to save any material possible for salvage before it had be come unfit for use. According to the story told by har bor board representatives today, the moard was approached by the repre sentative of the dredging company after that firm had secured a dredg ing contract with the army engineers. It was proposed that the board use the waste material from the. dredg ing, and plans were presented by which this could be done. Believing that a big saving could thus be made ior me territory, me uoara contract ed for the construction of the wall and as soon as it was completed call ed for bids on the fill proper. It was supposed that the low bidder would be the Standard American Dredging company at the theoretical figure of 12 cents a foot, it was said today, but to the surprise and dis may of the board the company offer ed no bid whatever. The lowest other bid was 60 cents a yard which was considered by the board as impos sible. All bids were rejected accord ingly. The proposed fill was to amount to 36,000 yards, to be reduced some by the proposed swimming slip. Chairman W. R. Hobby expressed the belief today that the work can be done under the loan fund, but dot un til money is available from the sale of bonds, but the construction cannot proceed as cheaply as would have been possible had the hoped for con tract been secured. As the Standard American has not yet appeared on the scene to fulfill an army, contract more than the year old, the army has already awarded an emergency contract to the Ha? waiian Dredging company in order that the work on the new quarantine wharf might proceed. PROMOTION COMMITTEE NOTES Mr. Rob Wagner, the Saturday Even ing Post writer, under date of Nov. 16, writes: . . "Charlie Chaplin is now In the thick of building his new. studio, and it will be the best th Hollywood. He will be at work in three weeks, T have no doubt that Syd Chaplin will be over in the islands before long to make some pictures. Charlie has him very enthusiastic. "We all agree that we never spent a happier three weeks than we did witk you-all. "Our regards to all our hosts that's some commission for you." Mr. Henry H. Hart, city attorney of San Francisco, has just given his 26th lecture on Hawaii. He would like to eet Thrum's Annual for 1882 and 1883 to complete his set. Can anyone oblige? The Kaiser's physicians have ord ered him to take a much needed re6t. WE STORE EVERYTHING JAMES H. LOVE JAPANESE SILK GOODS AND CURIOS, KIMONOS AND EMBROIDERIES. SAYEGUSA 1120 NUUANTJ STREET, JUST ABOVE HOTEL piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiijiiiiiiiiiiiiw 1 The Initial Alexander The I A repertoire of classic, eccentric,; oriental and popular dances V I 4 Days, Nov. 27, 2S, 29 .arid -SO : Program from 9:45 p. nft. to l:OOa.m. :. I ADMISSION BOc. ; .' ' , ; : : .. . : EESEByED. SEA73. $l.C0 iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiioiiii IL DIVISION Official Announcement Says Its Purpose Accomplished, No . ; Need For It Now Honolulu's only retail meat market that has been" able to undersell other similar local concerns, and to give to the public meat at a figure consider ed fairly reasonable, has been put out of business. : An announcement issued late yester day by the territorial marketing divi sion Is to the effect that beginning Saturday, December 1, the retail de partments of the division will be dis continued by order' of the board ; of agriculture and forestry. The divi sion will continue to sell at wholesale only such Island products as are re ceived.";:'. -'.B: The announcement states that the discontinuance ,of . the retail depart ments is due to the lack of equipment and an uncertain supply of a sufficient variety of island products. C. S. Judd. executive officer of the forestry board, says that the retail market was mere ly a side issue when the market was started, i and points out that it was only! meant , to be continued If there proved to be a need for It, but It was found that the market for the products was already established without that, so there was no need of continuing It According to A. L. Castle, executive officer of the territorial food commis sion, the discontinuance of the retail department is a wise move. He de clares It will do away with the anta gonism with : which . the wholesalers and dealers hare regarded the mar keting division- ''I am sure," be con tinues, "that the food commission feels that it is a step forward and will re sult in a much more satisfactory opera tion of the market In every way. Here is' a comparison of some oi the meat prices at the division's re tail market with, the average prices maintained at other city markets : Terr. Mkt Others Round steak ..... .23 .27 Rib roast .23 .27 , Sirloin ........... .24 .32 ; Tenderloin .24 .35 Pot roast ........ .23 .27 Rump roast . . ... . .23 .25 : Hamburger ; . . . . . .' .23 .24 LEPERS HAPPY, SAYS ARTICLE BY DR. GOODHUE In an article published recently in the Medical Record, Dr. E. S. Good hue, of Honolulu, describes life at the Molokal lecer settlement. Dr. Good hue takes the stand that the patients1 on the little strip of land on windward Molokal. are nanny, and that the 600 lepers enjoy life to Its iullest. Mr.j Goodhue has had copies of the article! published in circular form and is dis-l tributing them among the islands. "Of course, there is, the pathetic side, to life at the settlement, but a spirit of wholesome mirth pervades the place," writes the physician, "but it is i ceruumy uoi u bau as uusum vi son tanum lire, comiort ana nappmess smile everywhere. There Is hope In the. hearts of many who have but a: mild form of the disease, and when ! they are ready, and leave, they go with the love and leis of their fellow patients who remain." Dr. Goodhue speaks highly of the work being done by Brother Joseph Dutton, and of the strides made by those In charge of the work. The Paris Municipal Council has been asked to name a street after President Wilson. CITY TRANSFER COMPANY PHONE 1281. Opening of 1917 Celebrated BETA mmmmm Will: WITH Ajunmee Our -Dollar Sale . . - - -. - . . . - I J . !- ..--;. i- ".' ' - - " " '" -' -' ?" (- -. . : -v --JI " ' Stamped Goods " - . - -. .. Fine Nainsook Nightgowns and combinations stamped in a variety of pretty designs, $1.00 each. ; s : Bath Towels and Laundry Bags, high grade quality, at $1.00 each. , u Hair Ribbons in a large variety of plaids, Dresden and plain colors, 4 yards for $1.00. Special Values On The Second Floor - Muslin and outing, flannel,' nndensneaf, crepe kimonos, bungalow aprons and dolls at $1.00 each -v. y:0.' .- ' ACE Hotel St., Winy Dp People Wea!? Glasses? Two Main Reasons: 1. To see better and easier. 2. To relieve the distress and pain caused by eye-strain. - A scientific and; thorough examination, of tho eyes is essential if glasses are to accomplish their . results, ';;V.-'"7"" DRP RySHFORTH Optometrist and Optician 'X ' Wall & Dougherty Rooms 37-38 Second The case of Antone 8 lira, a chauf feur, who was arrested last week and, charged with an attempted assault on a young giri, was continued until to morrow. ' The case was called! this Winter Entertainment Season ). g MM Russian Dancer 'qf Ment is I near Fort Floor Young Bldg. morning In police court, and sereral witnesses took the stand. The 'girl complainant is said to hare run away from school, and Silva,'; who is her brother-la-law, took hsr from the school to her home. Optical Dept iaii A.