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SCfVPPS - HOYfJUtD U. S. GRAND JURY MAY PROBE GRAFT IN NATIONAL GUARD Department of Justice Investigation Into ' Alleged Forgeries May Be Asked by Val Nolan. SECRET SERVICE AGENTS ACTIVE Jhree Company Commanders in State Militia Asked to Resign After Federal Charges Are Revealed. BY WILLIAM H. M’GAUGHEY Times Staff Writer * Probability of federal grand jury action in alleged na tional guard graft and fund irregularities was indicated today by Val Nolan, United States attorney. Mr. Nolan revealed that two cases of petty graft had been brought to his attention several months ago by secret service agents. “If there is evidence of other cases of graft in the In diana national guard, I will ask the department of justice to step in and conduct an investigation,” Mr. Nolan asserted. Cases of alleged falsifica tion of vouchers and check forgeries have been dis covered by investigators of Comptroller-General J. R. Mc- Carl’s office in Washington, The Times learned yesterday. No report of this investigation has been received from the comp troller-general's office, Mr. Nolan said. In the event of prosecution, any evidence from that sourse prob ably will be turned over to the at torney-general, he said. Results of the investigation con ducted by secret service operatives here concern cases of fund irregu larities of two officers of the In diana national guard, Mr. Nolan said. The cases were not presented to the federal grand jury at the last session. Three Asked to Resign Although Adjutant-General Elmer F. Straub asked three officers to re sign as result of the federal gov ernment's investigation, he has taken no step to press prosecution, he said. In the shakeup that is under way, more company commanders will be asked to resign. General Straub told The Times yesterday. Information from Washington in dicates thousands of dollars in na tional guard funds have been taken in the last few years. Forgeries Are Charged Colonel Robert T. Young, former state disbursing officer, was sen tenced in September. 1933, to the federal prison at Atlanta for five years for the embezzlement of $20,- *OOO in national guard funds. The cases investigated by General Straub reveal an alleged forgery of government checks by Harry R. Piles, former commandant of the Greensburg unit, and of alleged fund irregularities in the guard units commanded by James C. Gabriel, Crawfordsville, and How ard E. Ross, Evansville. All three officers were asked to resign. Piles was appointed commander of the Greensburg unit upon the recommendation of Captain John Friday of Shelbyville, over the pro tests of a number of Greensburg citizens and of the American Legion post there, according to officers of the unit. Captain Friday is successor to Colonel Young as disbursing officer. SWITZERLAND WILL RETAIN GOLD PARITY Balanced Budget Will Not Be Altered, Says Government. Bti United Per ax BERNE. Switzerland. March 28. Switzerland will adhere to the pres ent gold parity of the franc, the government announced today, an swering reports that the country is in danger of being forced off the gold standard. The announcement said the gov ernment would not allow r its bal anced budget, established last Oc tober, to be endangered and will ' oppose any additional expenses not covered by revenue. MARTIN INSULL QUITS DETROIT FOR CHICAGO Former Utilities Operator Faces Em bezzling Charges. Bn United Prcrx DETROIT. March 28. —Martin In sult was taken aboard the 12:40 p. m. Michigan Central train to be returned to Chicago where he faces trial on charges of embezzle- j ment connected with the collapse j of the Insull properties.. — Times Index Auto News 8 Berg Cartoon 12 Bridge 19 Broun 11 Classified 17-18 Comics 19 Crossword Puzzle 19 Curious World 19 Editorial 12 Financial . 14 Good Old Days 3 Hickman—Theaters 11 Lippraan 14 Monuments of Literature 11 Pegler 11 Radio 17 Bporta 16-17 State News 10 ; Wallace Series 4j Woman’s Pages 6- 7 The Indianapolis Times Increasing cloudiness with probably rain or snow late tonight and tomorrow; warmer tonight with lowest temperature near freezing; colder tomorrow night. NR a; V 1-IM yf Wl DO OUR PART VOLUME 45—NUMBER 275’ * ATTACK STORY TOLD BY GIRL Mrs. Mary Beyerlein Tells of Plunge to Evade Accused Pair. Unable to climb the short flight of stairs to municipal court room three. Mrs. Mary Beyerlein, pretty 18-year-old girl who leaped from a third floor window during a drink ing party at 451 North Illinois street Sept. 27, today told of the alleged criminal assault upon her by two local men during the party. Mrs. Beyerlein wore braces to support her back as a result of the injuries she sustained in the fall. She was assisted into the ~ourtr oom by her mother, Mrs. Sue Chadwell, 273 North Holmes ave nue. Because of her physical condition, Judge Dewey Myers held court in the detective bureau on the first floor of the police headquarters building. In the room, Richard Heymann, 30, of 2339 Spann ave nue, and William Bowers, 24, of the Colonial hotel, charged with the alleged attempted criminal assault upon Mrs. Beyerlein, watched shamefacedly as she walked to the witness stand. Frankie Ralston, theatrical pro ducer. who with Bowers and Hey mann, is charged with possession of marjuana cigarets at the party, was not present. His attorney ex plained that Ralston was in Can ada with a show. Hearing on the charge of possessing the narcotic cigarets was set down for April 20. In almost inaudible tones, Mrs. Beyerlein told of meeting Bowers at a downtown drug store on the afternoon of Sept. 27. when he sug gested first that they go to a show and later invited her to the North Illinois street apartment. Mrs. Beyerlein testified that they met Heymann at the apartment and both men tried to ply her with drinks, and when Ralston entered the room forced her to smoke a marijuana cigaret. When Bowers and Heymann attempted to attack her in the bedroom, Mrs. Beyerlein testified, she jumped from the window. Both Heymann and Bower denied the alleged attack when they took the stand and both protested that they had been drinking heavily and were vague about the incidents of the party. Under cross-examina tion, both men admitted that they had not gone to the assistance of the girl after she leaped from the window. Judge Myers bound Heymann and Bowers over to the grand jury for further investigation under SI,OOO bond each. Five Dead in Chilean Floods By l Filled Press ANTOFAGASTA. Chile. March 28. —Torrential rains in the Andes have caused floods and washouts which so far today had resulted in five dead and 100 injured, beside enorm ous property damage. Communica tions with the interior were dis rupted. LOOK AT WORLD THROUGH THE EXPERT EYES OF GREATEST FOREIGN AFFAIRS AUTHORITY To obtain for newspaper readers a first-hand, authoritative pic ture of the w-orld situation today. William Philip Simms, foremost authority on foreign affairs, is touring the world for The Indianap olis Times. He now is in Japan, from where he has dispatched his first series of five articles, and will proceed from Tokio to Shanghai, Nan king, Peiping, Harbin and Vladivostok, then leaving for Moscow and other European capitals. Mr. Simms, now Scripps-Howard foreign editor, was bom in Grantville, Ga.. Aug. 28. 1881, started his newspaper career on the Atlanta Journal, going from there to the Cincinnati Post as dramatic editor. He began his foreign service as Paris correspondent for the United Press in 1908. remaining there until the outbreak of the great war. During the world conflict, he was a war correspondent in France. Belgium, Italy and Russia. Simms was chief of the United Press bureau in Paris during the peace conference. Returning to America, he was sent to the Orient in 1920 by the Scripps-Howard newspapers, returning to cover the Washington naval conferences as a far eastern specialist. Mr. Simms is holder of the British war, British victory and French Verdun medals. He is a fellow of the American Geographical Society and a member of the Academy of Political Science and the Ypres League. The first of Mr. Simms’ dispatches appears tomorrow. Dillinger Plotted to Free Terror Mob Pals by Disguising Gangsters as Guardsmen, Captain Leach Reveals BY BASIL GALLAGHER Times Staff Writer A FRUSTRATED plan to free t£ree members of the In diana “terror mob’’ from the heavily guarded Lima <O.) jail in which John Dillinger, escaped desperado, planned to use gang sters disguised as Ohio national guardsmen, was revealed today by Captain Matt Leach of the state police. With Harry Pierpont, Charles Mackley and Russell Clark safely Imprisoned in the Columbus (O.) penitentiary and the heavy mili tary guard which surrounded the Lima jail for more than a month disbanded, police throughput the middle west relaxed today for the first time in many weeks. Captain Leach pictured Dillin ger as a hunted man with his hand against the world, hiding in an obscure Chicago flat, deserted by his henchmen because he is “too hot” and afraid to venture into the streets even at night. As Pierpont and Makley pre pare for death in the electric chair for the murder of Sheriff Jess Sarber of Lima and Russell Clark starts today on a life sen tence for the same crime, Captain Leach pronounced the gang’s reign of terror at an end. “It’s curtains for Dillinger now,” said Captain Leach, em phatically. “He’s licked. Hamil ton, Burns, Fox and Van Meter, all wanted as members of the gang, are afraid to go near him. He’s too hot.” a a a SEATED at his office at state police headquarters at the statehouse, Captain Leach pointed to a row of rogues gallery pictures on the walls. Across the pictures of Pierpont, Makley and Clark, and other dead or captured mem bers of the gang, heavily penciled “X’s” had been made. An “X” across the scowling countenance of Dillinger had been erased. “He’s a tough hombre,” said Captain Leach, gazing with a hint of admiration at "Whittling” Jack’s mug, “but he’s really through. He can’t win now.” “From information which came to us, we have learned that Dil linger actually made an effort to free Pierpont and the other two men from the Lima jail.” Captain Leach added. “The plan called for eight gangsters dressed in army uniforms to pose as Ohio national guardsmen. “Another gangster was to dress as a lieutenant. The plans vrere to have the gangsters enter Lima at night and hide in town until just before court adjourned in the afternoon. The plan then called for the fake lieutenant and sev eral of his “soldiers” to present fictitious papers purported to have been signed by Governor White to the sheriff ordering the prisoners to be turned over to the “military authorities” on the pre text of moving them temporarily from the jail bscause of a raid scare.” “Dillinger did not take active part in the plan,” Caplain Leach added. “By that I mean he did not go to Lima himself. But he sent Hamilton and Burns or sev eral other members of the gang there and they reported back that the plan was impossible to exe cute. The scheme fell through for three reasons. First, the tip to me w'hich I passed on to General Bush at Lima, causing an in creased vigilance; second, the fact that Dillinger could not muster enough men to carry the plan through, and third, that General Bush, who is a thorough soldier, knew all the men in his outfit and anticipated even the most fantastic move by the gangster.” Four Are Slain in Voting Outbreaks at Kansas Citg By United Press KANSAS CITY, Mo., March 28. The death toll in Kansas City’s bloody municipal election jumped to four today when P. W. Oldham, a bystander, succumbed to a bullet wound suffered when he happened within range of duelling gunmen of the victorious Democratic machine. Oldham was unlocking his hard ware store last night when three carloads of gunmen opened fire on Deputy Sheriff Lee Flacy, a Demo cratic challeger, as he entered a nearby delicatessen store. Flacy, mortally wounded, re turned the fire, killing Larry Cappo, north side ward-heeler, riding in one of the attacking auto mobiles. Flacy lay dead and Oldham INDIANAPOLIS, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 28, 1934 “There is no question that Dil linger was ‘fingering’ the Lima situation,” said Captain Leach. “When the plan which I have out lined fell through, Johnny decid ed that his pals would have to ‘take the rap.’ He’s too smart to stick his head in a noose.” a a a CAPTAIN LEACH yawned wear ily. He pointed to a pile of correspondence on his desk deal ing with Dillinger’s escape. “If I don’t get him soon. I’ll go nuts,” he said. “I haven’t had a decent night’s sleep for about six Origin of Wirt's Charges Laid to Crusaders Head Economic Liberty Society Chief Made Statement to Roosevelt, Dr. Raymond Moley Says. By United Press NEW YORK, March 28.—A possible clew to the origin of Dr. William A. Wirt’s sensational Communist charges against the administration brain trust was reported today by Professor Raymond A. Moley, former as sistant secretary of state and once an outstanding figure in the so-called trust. COOK COUNTY JAIL IS STONEWALL HOTEL IN MAN’S LETTER HOME By United Press CHICAGO, March 28.—“ Dear Dad: I won’t be home for a short time because I am detained on business at the Stonewall hotel, 2600 South California avenue, Chicago.” So wrote Lenn Fordyce to his father at Buchanan, Mich. The father asked detective chief William Schoemaker for more in formation, to which Mr. Schoe maker replied. “Dear Mr. Fordyce: I am very sorry to tell you that the Stone wall hotel your son mentions is none other than the Cook county jail. His business is gvernment business, since he is accused of transporting a stolen automobile from one state to another.” SAFE IS BLOWN TO BITS: S2OO IS TAKEN ‘Burglar-Proof’ Strongbox Is Shattered by Yeggs. (Pictures on Paee Fifteen) Office of the Blue Diamond Coal Company, 55 South Forest avenue, was wrecked completely and a sup posedly “burglar-proof” safe was blown and battered to bits by yegg men last night. The yeggmen used an acetylene torch, huge sledgehammers and other heavy tools stolen from the Pennsylvania railroad coach shops nearby. A hole was burned through the heavy iron shell of the specially built' bank type safe to a 2,000- pound concrete “filling” which was blown with nitroglycerine. A small, round inner safe then was taken outside the office and cut open with the acetylene torch. William O. Bender, manager, es timated there was about S2OO cash in the safe. Hourly Temperatures 6a. m 16 10 a. m 27 7a. m 17 11 a. m 31 Ba. m 23 12 (noon).. 35 9 a. m 24 1 p. m 38 w r ounded when the cars roared away. The delicatessen battl# occurred as votes were being tabulated to give the incumbent machine, con trolled by Tom J. Pendergast, a 59,000 vote majority over the ticket of the Citizens’-Fusion party. William Finley, Negro Democratic precinct captain, was shot to death by mobsters who entered a polling place early yesterday. TJius, to the tune of pistol shots and thwacking clubs in the hands of thugs, was Kansas City’s famous “Little Tammany” returned to pow er over the city government for an other four years. The victorious mayoral candidate was Bryce B. Smith, incumbent. His opponent was Dr. A. Ross Hill, former president of the University of Missouri. The Fusionists elected two city councilmen. Sheriff Thomas B. Bash issued a pickup order for Joe Lusco, north side Democratic leader, to whose or ganization Cappo belonged. Two men were arrested in connection with the delicatessen battle. Shortly after the Negro finely was slain, Charles Casciola staggered into a hospital near the scene, suf fering from bullet wounds. He re fused to tell officers how and where he was wounded. The Kansas City Star, one of whose reporters, Justin D. Bower sock. was among the many slugging victims, denounced the election in a front page editorial as “a disgrace to Kansas City, a blot on Missouri.” The newspaper offered a $5,000 re ward for evidence leading to the ar rest and conviction of the reporter’s assailants. Complete returns from the city’s 461 precincts gave Smith 141,117 votes and Dr. Hill 81,749 votes. The Fusionists elected two city council men to break the unanimously Democratic council. months all on account of Dillin ger and his mob. “I nearly had him a week ago in Detroit,” Leach said, a gleam of excitement creeping into his eyes. “I was there when Herbert Youngblood (Dillinger’s Negro companion) was shot at Port Huron. That spoiled everything. Johnny was on his way out of Chicago' to Detroit. We knew where he was going. We knew where he had a car hidden. Then Youngblood was shot and Dillin ger, who is no fool, beat it back to Chicago. The fact that Dr. Wirt was in Warm Springs, Ga., coincident with the visit of George A. Christians, head of the Crusaders for Economic Liberty, was recalled by Dr. Moley in a copyrighted interview in The New York World-Telegram. a Scripps-Howard newspaper. Chris tians was agitating for monetary reform. Dr. Moley said that Mr. Christians told Mr. Roosevelt—who then was President-elect—that he was merely “The Kerensky of the revolution. Dr. Wirt was not present during the interview, but later mingled with the other visitors at the hotel, which was the center of gossip about governmental affairs at the time. That was the single occasion, to my best knowledge, on wh..n I saw Dr. Wirt.” Dr. Moley added. “Whether Dr. Wirt met them in Warm Springs, talked with them, or now knows them or their views I can not say,” said Moley. “I do not know that Dr. Wirt was in Warm Springs on or about that time and that I talked with him. It was my only meeting with him.” Incident- 1$ Recalled (Copyright, 1934, by United Press) CHATTANOOGA, Tenn., March 28.—George W. Christians, presi dent of the Crusades for Economic Liberty, told the United Press here today that he told President Roose velt at Warm Springs, Ga., on I Dec. 1, 1932, that he was “only the Kerensky” of the American revolu tion. “If you move to the third stage of the revolution, to the ‘Lenin’ dictatorship stage, you’ll be the first man in history to do so,” Mr Christians said he told the then President-elect, who replied: “‘Well, Oliver Cromwell did it!’” As far as I know, I never told Dr. Wirt anything,” Mr. Christians said. Story Branded ‘Bunk’ By United Press WASHINGTON, March 28.—Dr. William A. Wirt’s “brain trust plot” charges today were termed “bunk” and “Wall Street propaganda” by members of the house rules com mittee considering a formal in quiry. Sharp attacks on the Gary school superintendent marked the com mittee’s hearing on a resolution of Representative Alfred L. Bulwinkle (Dem„ N. C.), for an investigation of the charges by a special house group. M ERCUR Y~TOUCHES~I6. NEW MARCH 28 LOW Warmer Weather for Tonight Is Forecast by Bureau. Slumping to 16 above zero early today on the heels of a cold wave, the mercury set anew low for the date in history of the T ndianapolis weather bureau. Tile previous low for March 28* was 20. in 1923. Warmer weather tonight, tfith rain or snow tonight and tomorrow, was forecast, with a new cold wave expected to move in by tomorrow afternoon or night, ac cording to J. H. Armington, local meterologist. The mercury was not expected to drop below freezing tonight. WAGE HIKE ANNOUNCED BY TINPLATE COMPANY Ten Per Cent Increase to Affect 1.800 Employes. By United Press MANSFIELD. 0., March 28. A 10 per cent wage increase for em ployes of the Empire Sheet and Tinplate Company here, effective April 1. w’as announced by Carl H. Henkel, president of the company today. The wage hike w’as ordered to meet new levels in the steel indus try. and will mean an increase of $250,000 in the company’s pay roll during the remainder of the year, affecting some 1.800 employes. SUGAR BILL INTRODUCED i * Compromise Proposal for Production Put Before House. I By United Press WASHINGTON. March 28. —! j Chairman Marvin Jones of the' ! house agriculture committee today j introduced anew compromise sugar l production bill, fixing the domestic j beet sugar quota at 1,550,000 tons I and domestic cane sugar at 260,000 1 tons. ROOSEVELT AIDS MASS SENATE FORCES FOR VOTE ON VETERAN VETO VAN MiySTO BACK VETO OF VETERANS BILI Indiana Senator Decides to ‘Stand By President and His Program/ BY WALTER STONE Times Staff Writer WASHINGTON, March 28. Taking a position diametrically opposite to that taken by his Demo cratic colleagues in the house, Sena tor Frederick Van Nuys, Indiana’s junior senator, announced today that he will back the President in the fight over the independent offi ces appropriations bill. Shortly after the overwhelming vote in the house overriding the President’s veto yesterday after noon, Senator Van Nuys was asked by The Times correspondent how he intended to vote. The senator replied that he wanted time to study the President’s veto message, and compare the President’s new executive orders, restoring certain veterans to the pension rolls, with the provisions in the vetoed supply bill. This morning, Senator Van Nuys gave out the following formal statement: “I shall vote to sustain the Presi dent’s veto. I receive hundreds of letters every week from all classes and conditions of -Indiana citizens, urging me to stand by the President. They feel and I feel that the one way out of our present difficulties is strict adherence to his program. Robinson Plans Speech “The only way I know how to stand by the President is to stand by him. This I have done, and am doing, irrespective of personal or political results.” Indiana’s senior senator, Arthur Robinson, Republican, will vote to override the veto. In a speech be fore the senate today, Senator Robinson is expected to lay the groundwork for making the veter ans’ issue the dominating issue in his forthcoming campaign for re election. Resentment at the afilure of the administration to extend them more recognition in the matters of patro nage is one of the unconfessed rea sons why Indiana Democrats in the house kicked over the traces and voted yesterday to override Presi dent Roosevelt’s veto. Two questions were asked of each Indiana congressman who voted to override the President’s veto. 1. Why did you vote to override the veto? 2. How do you intend to balance the budget? Ludlow Makes Reply Their replies follow: Louis Ludlow: 1. “Because I thought the legislation was fair, i both to the veterans and the gov ernment.” 2. “We’re not balancing i the budget, anyway.” Finly H. Gray: 1. “Because I wanted to fulfill campaign promises to my soldiers. I told my soldiers that I would not vote to reduce their pay more than the pay of others.” 2. “I’d balance the budget by paying off enough bonds to stop $400,000,000 interest. Then I’d have $300,000,000 left after making up the difference between congress and the President.” James I. Farley: 1. “I thought the World war presumptives and the Spanish war veterans should be re stored to the rolls.” 2. “If this un- ! balances the budget, the same amount can be deducted from some ■ other appropriation already made, : from whatever appropiration the President thinks best.” William H. Larrabee—l. Because thought it was the right thing to do. 2. I’m not ready to answer that \ question now. I’ll answer it later I think your questions are unfair j Kidnaped by Red Giberson , City Man Tells Police Ernest (Red) Giberson. his hair dyed black and sporting a small mustache, is reported to have been in Indianapolis early today where he itidnapped and robbed a local man. taking his victim for “a ride” to No blesville, scene of Giberson's recent spectacular escape from jail Mud-spattered and cold after a long walk, O. A. Dart of 517 North Alabama street, who told police he has known Giberson for five years, walked into police headquarters early today and told of being kid naped by the red-headed suspect in the slaying of Sergeant Lester Jones. Dart told police that Giberson was accompanied by a middle-aged, heavily-built man who wore a pis tol hidden beneath his coat. Dart told police that the bandits robbed him of $lO, giving him a dime for carfare. A blue sedan bearing Michigan license plates pulled up at the curb in the 300 block North New Jersey street shortly before midnight, Dart told police. The man whom he later positively identified as Giberson, stopped Dart and flourishing a re volver, ordered him into the sedan. Entered is Seond-Clas Matter at Postoffiee. Indianapolis. Ind. HE’S ‘FOR’ PRESIDENT giL gs njjr^ Senator Van Nuys , AIR MAIL BIOS AREJUTLINED Companies With Canceled Contracts Must Oust Former Officials. By United Press WASHINGTON, March 28. Transportation of air mail will be returned to private companies within two months, with all airlines eligible to bid so rtemporary con tracts if they purge themselves of former officials charged with fraud and collusion. Postmaster General James A. Farley announced today. Advertisements for bids will be sent out by the postoffice depart ment this week, calling for sub mission of bids within fifteen days. Successful bidders will be required to start operations within thirty days after contracts are awarded, Mr. Farley said. Fifteen routes will be flown at the start, covering slightly more than half of the mileage formerly covered by commercial air routes. Companies whose contracts were cancelled on charges of fraud and collusion must change their corp orate set-up, Mr. Farley said. In adidtion they must have dismissed all officers w'ho were connected with the so-called “spoils conference” held by Postmaster-General Walter F. Brown in 1930. Mr. Farley said he had been ad vised by lawyers that existing air lines could revamp their companies in a "reasonable time” and be elig ible to bid on the temporary con tracts. However, it was emphasised that changing their corporate setup would not qualify them ig any of the new company officials attended the 1930 conference. < “The temporary contracts will be made for a period of three months,” Mr. Farley’s announcement said. The postoffice department will have the right to extend such contracts for one or two three-month : periods.” ROOSEVELT SETS SAIL IN ASTOB'S YACHT Leaves Jacksonville for 10-Day Cruise. By United Press JACKSONVILLE, Fla.. March 28. —President Roosevelt sailed from i this picturesque port today for a ten-day cruise in southern waters. His son. James, accompanied him. The nations chief executive, seeking rest and relaxation after months of arduous administration duties, departed aboard the Nour mahal. palatial yacht of Vincent Astor. Accompanying him also w’as a group of close friends w r ho were shipmates with him on previous trips of the Nourmahal. With Dart in the front seat the men drove to Lebanon, where they purchased gas. As they drove far ther north to Frankfort, Dart said, Giberson and his companions con versed in low whispei was surprised when the banaito dtd into Noblesville, where Giberson is wanted for escaping from the county jail more than a month ago by sawing away several bars in his cell. At the time of his escape, the desperado was awaiting trial for the murder of Sergeant Jones dur ing the robbery of the Peoples Motor Coach Company in Indian apolis last year. Menacing Dart with a revolver the pair drove Dart back toward Indianapolis, where they took $lO from him at Rockville road and West Washington street. He was told to “beat it" and “keep his i mouth shut,” he told police. '■ HOME EDITION PRICE TWO CENTS Outside Marlon County, 3 Cents Result of Bitter Battle Hinges on Three or Four Ballots. CHAMBER IS CROWDED Debate Is Started as More Than 100 Members of House Look On. By United Press W ASHINGTON, March 28. —ln an atmosphere of excite ment, the senate today de bated President Roosevelt’s veto of veterans pay restora tion legislation. The veta w r as overridden yester day by the house. 310 to 72, and sim ilar action by the senate would en act it into law despite the Presi dent’s objections. Majority Leisder Joseph T. Rob inson announced he was ready for consideration of the veto message. It was expected that about two hours of debate would precede the vote. There was no clear indica tion of the outcome. A two-thirds majority was necessary to override. Galleries Are Crowded Galleries were crowded and more than 100 members of the house crowded the rear of the chamber as the senate approached the test which was to determine the admin istration's hold over congress. While Mr. Roosevelt was defeated in his plea for ratification of the St. Lawrence waterway treaty, the test on the veterans’ pay cut issue was regarded as more important because of the insurgency w’hich has developed within the President's party. As the President’s veto message was read—the first order of business —senators paid little attention. Some last minute efforts to solicit votes still were in progress. Alice Roosevelt Longworth, in green and occasionally adjusting a longnette to glaze at the scene below her, sat in the galleries re serves for guests of senators. Cutting First Speaker Senator Bronson Cutting (Rep., N. M.), was the first speaker in the 1 debate. As the debate proceeded the sit uation narrowed down to the dispo sition of three or four still doubt ful votes. They could throw the decision either way. Senator Bennett Champ Clark ( Dem„ Mo.), of the group insisting on higher veterans’ benefits, said he thought the veto would be over ridden, but that the result hinged on decisions still to be made in a few cases. If the President is over-ridden in the senate the bill automatically be comes law. It carries $228,000,000 more than budget estimates—sl2s,- 000,000 for government workers in partial restoration of pay reductions and the remainder in increased vet erans’ compensation. Needs Thirty-two Votes It requires a two-thirds majority to over-ride the veto. Robinson had to be sure of thirty-two votes to make ce: ‘ lu that it could be sustained. While President Roosevelt called attention in his veto message to the fact that the congress had not pro vided tbfi extra $228,000,000 by taxa tion, his opposition was based more on principles than on the money involved. “My disapproval of this bill is not based, solely on the considera tion of dollars and cents,” he stated. There is a deeper consideration. You and I are concerned with the principles herein enunciated. I trust that the congress will continue to co-operate with me in our com mon effort to restore general pros perity and relieve distress.” The President referred to the so called “presumptive” cases which would be restored permanently to the pension rolls under the bill he refused to approve. ‘Presumptive’ Cases Issue Showing that he was willing to grant certain increases, Mr. Roose velt by executive order affected in creases for both World war and Spanish war veterans. But any “presumptive" cases restored to the rolls were placed there only pend ing a review. This is the point he has fought for throughout the bit ter veterans controversy. “I intend now by regulation forth with to direct an appeal by the ad ministration of veterans affairs in each and every one of these disal lowed 29,000 cases (the number re moved from the pension rolls after judgment that disabilities were not service connected) with the further direction that in the final determin ation of these cases every reason able doubt be resolved in favor of the veteran, and every assistance be rendered in the preparation and presentation of these cases. “While these cases are pending the veterans wil be paid 75 per cent of the compensation they received prior to the time they were removed from the rolls. If the appeal is al lowed they *lll receive back com pensation. Only in cases disallowed by the board of appeals will the vet eran thereafter be permanently re moved from the rolls.”