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THE PACIFIC COMMERCIAL ADVERTISER, AUGUST 2b, 1884.
i i wiinin tue leper reservation. He stated uv:hctcu j,uuu wouiu corer tne ex penditure. Agreed to. Minister Guiicn moved a new item of $16, 000 in aid of boring new artesian wells. He explained that at the last sessisn of the Leg islaUre nearly $85,000 was appropriated, but very little of it was used. About $2,500 had been expended on the Island of Molokai in the waj of making survey i. He wanted it understood that this sum was to be de voted in aid of boring wells, or rather an encouragement. Mr. W. O. Smith alluded to appropria tions made by former Legislature, where there had been no satisfactory result. He did not think that the country could stand any more appropriations of this kind at this time. Mr. Bishop said he did not think it was wise for the Government to spend money in artesian wells for private individuals, and was Apposed to any appropriation for that purpose. The $16,000 item was then rejected. Mr. Nakaleka moved an item of $5,000 for artesian wells on the Island of Molokai. Agreed to. Mr. Dole moved an item of $15,000 for the purpose of securing historical paintings of the islands, and the ancient legends. He admitted that it was a kind of a luxury, but was something that should be attended to. The motion was lost. . Mr. Dole moved a now item of $500 for " the purchase of Queen K&piolani's oil por trait at Williams'. The motion was lost by a large majority. Mr. Gulick moved an item of $5,000 for as sistance in boring artesian wells at Makua, Oahn Island. Mr. Howell was opposed to spending money for the benefit of private pirties. If it was to be a benefit to the Government it would be different. Mr. Bishop said the probability is that after the experience had no, success would follow any tench appropriation. The motion was lost. Mr. Gibson moved a new item of $3,000 for publication of the only History of the Hawaiian race prior to the advent of civiliza tion, written by the Hon. Abram Fornander. Agreed to. One of the inquisitive native members asked what language the : book was to be printed in. He was informed by Mr. Gibson that it was intended to publish it in the English language. Then a motion made to re-con sider the vote was agreed to, thus re-opon-ing the question. Mr. Gulick explained the merits of the work, but said that if it was to be published in the Hawaiian language it would cost $12, 000 cr more. Mr. W. O. Smith did not think that matter of this kind and paintings were necessary, and the country must wait until there was more money on hand. Mr. Kalua opposed the proposition. The motion was lost. Mr. Gulick moved an item of $12,000 for the codification of the laws. Lost. Mr. Gulick moved an item of $23,441.92, balance due for the furnishing and comple tion of the Iolani Palace. A list mi the bills were sent up to the desk to be read, The bills accompanied the list. ' Mr. Kalua condemned the action of the Minister of the Interior in bringing on these bills at this time when the House was to adjourn in a few dajs. Mr. Judd said he. had been unable to present them, but that the Finance Com mittee was aware of this indebtedness. Mr. Dole inquired why this matter had been delayed mntil this late day. Mr. Godfrey Brown, Chairman of the Fi nance Committee, stated that the motion bad teen made to refer this matter to the Finance Committee. He was sure they would never report favorably on it. Amongst those bills there was one of $5,600 owing to Mr. Lucas. Two months ago he (Mr. B.) bad asked Lucas if the Government owed him anything. He said "Yes, five or six hundred dollars." He did not know any thing about Colonel Judd's bills until a day cr two ago. As far as he could see they were items of personaU expenses. Mr. Pilipo spoek at great length against the introduction of bills of this kind at this stage. S4 Mr. Nakaleka made a speech, favoring the reference to the Finance Committee. Mr. Gibson said here was & matter of ac counts, none of which had originated in any of the departments. They had been brought into notice by His Majesty's Chamberlain. He was not conversant with them. The Department of the Interior had thought proper to lay them before the House at this late day. Ho would be glad to get the opin ion f the Committee of Finance even, and 6hould like to see the question of these ex penditures referred to them. Mr. Hitchcock wanted to know how long this expenditure by the Chamberlain, un warranted, was to go on? Are we to pay the Chamberlain's bill for the palace, un warranted by the Ministry? His Majesty's Chamberlain had no right to run up bills, unauthorized, for the palace, its repairs or its furniture. These bills, amounting to $23,009, were brought in at tbe end of the se3sion. This was unjust, and they had no right to bring the subject up. . Mr. W. O. Smith said in looking over these bills he found them charged under six different headings, and a large portion of them really came under the household ex penses of His Majesty. They could not ex amine these accounts to-morrow. What the committee felt most keenly was tbe submis sion of this multitude of items at the last hour. Such action was unprecedented. It was useless to refer the matter to the com mittee, and improper to pass these items. The President said the question before the House was the reference of these documents to the Finance Committee. The motion was put and carried. Governor Dominis announced that His Majesty had been pleased to sign several bills presented, but had withheld his signa ture to the Act providing for the protection of creditors- against fraudulent insolvents, which would compel all traders to keep their books in English or Hawaiian. The House adjourned at 10 o'clock p. j. EIOETT-X1XTH DAT. Fkidat, August 22, 1834. The House met at 10 a. ar, Minutes of previous meeting were read and approved. On motion of Mr. Aholo, Governor Domi nis was appointed a select committee to in form His Majesty that the House would not be ready to adjourn on Saturday, but would be ready for that act on Tuesdav next or such day as might please His Majesty. Agreed to. On motion of Mr. Bishop, the bill in rela tion to the tuition fees, to be charged parents of scholars in certain schools, was taken up on its second reading. Mr. Bishop said that he was so confident that the bill would meet the requirements of the present time respecting these matters, that he thought it was advisable to experi ment with such an act for the next two years. The bill wa? ordered to a third reading on Friday. The bill to amend Section 8 of Chapter 79 of the Penal Code, relating to the recording of marriages, was passed. The bill to authorize William R. Austin and his associates to construct a railroad in the streets of Honolulu, was passed. The House then went into consideration of the Appropriation Bill. Mr. Eaae moved a reconsideration of . the vote by which the item for immigration was allowed and passed. A long debate ensuea untu a recess was had until afternoon. AFTERXOOX. Mr. Eaulukou said the object of tho re consideration of the item was that if the Ja panese immigration scheme did not suit, the Government ought to have the power to turn their attention to another race of people. Mr. W. O. Smith said it was too patent that this measure was in the interests of a member of the Assembly. It was fully un derstood in the first place, what was the ob ject of the vote, and now it was brought forward in the interests of a private person. He was ashamed of such a proceeding and and he was astonished at it. It was not necessary to say any more. Mr. Geo. Macfarlane said it was not neces sary to say any more in the strain cf tho Hon. Member for Wailuku, but it was neces sary to say a few words in refutation of the insinuations which had been made by Mr. Smith, and also .'by the Hon. Member for llilo, Mr; Hitchcock. They were all labor ing under some misapprehension about tho item in the Appropriation Bill. He had borne in mind during the session that 'speech was silver, silence was golden." Having passed the gold bill, he had hitherto preferred the gold basis, but circumstances had compelled him, at this late day in the session to return to the silver basis. He had refrained from sneaking on account of his interests being varied and extensive, and he did not want any dishonest motive to be imputed to him. On the subject of immi gration he felt obliged to give his views en aceount of some of the remarks that had been made by the Hon. Member for Wai luku. The Committse on Immigration say there is good prospect of obtaining a supply of Japanese at a reduced cost, and they were asked to throw aside the efforts of three or four legislators towards the repop ulation of the country; efforts which have been so" far succepjful that they can get as good a supply cif immigration from the Azorean Islands as they need. They now asked to borrow this money, for what ? a good prospect only. There is no - statesman ship nor business in such action; not even common sense. He disclaimed any antago nispto Japanese immigration. Let us have Japanese if they suit. He did not mean the Government, this House or the planters. He meant the country at large. If they suit better, then their course was clear and their duty is plain. In the meantime corn- mon prudence teaches them to follow in the course of the Minister of the Interior, and not to give up old business before they get the new. From what he knew of Japanese, a large immigration would be a boon to the country, a valuable contribution to the future prosperity and welfare of the Islands. It would, however, be childish to expect too vote upon one side or the other. He was not much from the new prospect. . If they favorable to Chinese immigration. He was stopped the Portntruese immigration, the in favor of ajiy other immigration, pro planters would be the first to growl about vided the country does not suffer by the it. change. It was no use disguising the Mr. Isenberg No. Mr. Macfarlane continued: During the last three-weeks he had re ceived application for 300 Portuguese, but no applications for Germans. lie did not wish to discuss the superiority of the Portu guese as against tho Japanese. With regard to Chinese population. There was every argument in favor of Chinese as a laborer, it he fails, to show he is a good citizen after v he pays his taxes. They were not there to legislate for the planters only, but also for the welfare of tho nation. If Por tuguese immigration stops, in three years what proportion .would there be on planta tions? There was nothing alluring about plantation life as some of the honorable members would lead them to believe, that they would renew their contracts. They would try every other means of making a living for themselves, and it is for the good ef the country they should do so. They had to see the small interests flourish as well as the larger ones. They must limit the im migration according to the demand, and as long as applications were received at the In terior Office. The present system has not been created by a bundle of red tape, but at much labor and an expensive process. It has been built up gradually, and be believed it now to be a perfect system. Mr. Isenberg How about the last con tracts? - Mr. Macfarlane They are being perfected now. It was a slip. Any scheme is liable to err. When he went to London he made the contracts so simple and plain that no question arose. The present contracts were made without his knowledge, and in pursu ance of an arrangement between the Govern ment and Mr. Hoffnung, and a mistake had been made. He had nothing to do with it, though charged by the Bulletin. He had nothing to say about the two further ship ments. It rested between the Government and Mr. Hoffnung. The question can be brought within very narrow limit. They had brought immigrants from the Portu guese Islands. They think, but they do not know that they can get better labor from Japan. They ought to find out whether they were right or not before they cut off the present source of supply. It will take twe years before. tney can aeveiop Japanese im migration. In the meantime those who want them will have to wait. He was in favor of immigration only, and leaving it to the discretion of the Government what na- tionalitv they introduce. Mr. Hichcock said, he was muoh edited by what had been said by . the Hon. Noble, and what he knew about plantations on Ha waii, if they passed tne motion they would shut up the door for the importation of Por tuguese. Mr. Cecil Brown said, as he understood the bill, a trial is to be given of Japanese immigration.. On the failure of Japanese tne balance oi tne appropriation win be ap plicable to Portuguese or other immigration, and he did not think any other construction Could be put on the clavse as worded in the Appropriation Bill. If the Government find it is not suitable, then they will turn to such other nations as they find most suitable. Mr. Isenberg said the immigration of Portuguese, was, on the whole, a good thing, but they have been expensive labor to plantations. They often came in when no other labor could be had, and for that reason they wers beneficial. But he thought it too expensive to continue to bring them in as fait as they have been .coming. The same with Japanese. They cannot afford it even two years. There is not a better laborer for the plantation than a Chinaman. They cost the Government nothing. He did not like to have all Chinamen, and for that reason he liked to see Japanese and Portuguese coming. $390,000 is altogether too much. He advocated opening tho door for China men and they would have all the labor they want. If they would leok round the coun try, they would see the improvements made bv Chinamen. He would like to know who had done so much for the country as the Chinamen? Valleys that were lying in rushes are now thrifty rice plantations. Mr. Gibson said he did not see sufficient reason for raising this question. He begged to say as regards the ..immigration purposes the Government purposed to give the pre ference to Japanese. The costly mission of Col. Iaukea was for that purpose. He thought they ought to devote their sole study to see what can be accomplished in I fhe way of this Japanese immigration. If I not practicable then the Government must turn its attention to some other immigra- I tion. He was not willing to assist in chang ing the Appropriation Bill from the form in which it now stands. Mr. Aholo said he was in favor of the re consideration of the item, so there could be no doubt as to what the wording of the item implied. Mr. Bishop stated that it was undesirable to nut &nr restriction on the Government. Let those who want Japanese have them and ic iro Pnrtnrmese have them. The Attorney-General said he resented the idea expressed by the Hon. Member for Hilo for saying that any member that votes for this item is voting for a job. The Islands want cheap labor. Ke would not planter's interest in thee Islands, and it is the duty of the Goternment to help them, and while they were playing at politics it is a question that has to be treated in a dif ferent way. In reply to Mr. Isenberg, he stated that he had a petition signed by 54 planters asking for Chinese. , When the first step was taken there was hardly a dis interested voice but what vtcd for $50,000 for Japanese immigration. It is one thing to vote money and another thing to pay it. (Mr. Bishop That's true.) What would they do if the bonds were not taken? JIe considered it a concealed slap at the Minis ter of the Interior and the Board of Immi gration to pass th item as iu the bill. He ad often bien indiscreet, I but was always candid. When such language came from the Hon. ' Members lor llilo and Wailuku he would not vote to rub it out. But h wanted to let them know that he did not vote to put up a job. Mr. Howell moved to iurert after tho words "if impracticable" "then such other immigration as may bo practicable." The following was the vote on this amend ment; Ayes Gibson, Gnliek, Bishop, Dominis, Cleghorn, Isenberg, Dowsett, Mott Smith, Judd, Walker, Amara, C. Brown, Aholo, Kalua, liichardson, Kanealu. W. O Smith, Kamakele, Gardner, Hitchcock, Kauwila, Kauhane, Nahinu, Pilipo, G. Brown, Kauna mano, Dole, Howell, Palohau,, Kupihea. Noes Bush, Kaae, Kanoa, Macfarlane Kaulukou, Keau, Lilikalani, Baker, Kaulia, Nakaleka. Ayes, 30; noeu, 10. .,.- Mr. Dole, from tho Judiciary Committee, reported on the matter of painting the Ha waiian Hotel, They considered the painting of the exterior of the hotel came within the province ofthe lessee, and they therefore recommend that the resolution be indefi nitely postponed. x ' Mr. Smith moved the report of the Com mittee be adopted. Mr. Kaunamano moved to indefinitely postpone. Mr. Kaae moved'to lay on the table. Car ried. Mr. Cleghorn, speaking on the item to aid the Royal Hawaiian Society, said that there was a debt of $1,500, and it would cost $1,500 to extend the stables. Mr. Eaulmkou moved to strike the item out. Item passed as in tho bill, $1,000. Mr. Nakaleka moved to strike out the item of aid to nurseries. Mr. Kaulukou moved to pass it at $5,000. Passed at $12,000. , Mr. Kaulukou moved to insert $22,000 subsidy to City of Paris S. S. line, provided they are put under Hawaiian flag. Mr. Hitchcock ..asked where, in the name of all that was good, was the end of this ap propriating money ? Mr. W. O. Smith protested ? gainst .the Hon. G. W. Macfarlane voting, as also did the Hon. Dr. J. Mott Smith. Mr. Macfarlane said that . he had not a dollar f stock in this matter. The vote was taken and resulted in a tie. The President voted with the Noes. A question of doubt was raised, and tbe Ayes and Noes were taken as follows: Ayes Kaae, Kanoa, Kaulukou, Keau, Lili kalani, Baker, Amara, Kaulia, Ahelo, Kama kele, Gardner, Nahinu, Kaunaiaarjo, Palo- hau, Kupihea, Nakaleka. . Noes Gibson, Gulick, Neumann, Bishop, Dominis, Cleghorn, Isenberg, Mott Smith, Judd, C. Brown, Richardson, Kancalii, W. O. Smith, Hitchcock, Kauwila, Kauhane, Pilipo, G. Brown, Dole, Howell. ' Ayes, 16; noes, 21. Mr. moved to take up the bill relating to pilotage dues. Lost. Mr. Aholo moved to re-consider the item of support of prisoners. Carried. The Minister of the Interior moved to in sert $87,000 for support ef prisoners and guards fer the prison. He stated they had previous experience that the system of ap pointing soldiery, to the guard of the prison was found to work inadeqately. Motion to insert the item lost. At 5 p. m. the nouse took a recess until 7 P. M. EVEKINO SESSION. Fkidat, August 23, 1884. The House met at ' p. m. Goy pominjg stated that he had waited on Hia Maiestv and conveved the resolution of the Assembly concerning prorogation. His Majesty informed him (Gov. D.) that ve WOuld be pleased to prorogue the Assem- bly at noon on Saturday the 30th inst. APrBOPBIATIOK BILL.. The Minister of the Interior said that the sum of $500 for elections had been passed during the afternoon, and he had inadver tantly not noticed it, He pointed out that according to the new law, the expenses of elections would be considerably increased. He therefore moved to re-consider the item, and that it pass at $1,000. The Minister, not having voted on the question, he was ruiea out oi oraer. Mr. Richardson moved the re-considera tion of the item. Carried. Mr. Gulick moved it pass at $1,000. Mr. W. O. Smith opposed the item, as the matter had been very fully discussed on the second reading. At the last election, fees had been paid to the tax collector for making out the ofhcial voting list, which was nothing more than part of hia official duties. The expenses at Wailuku did not exceed $10 or $15. It seemed a small thing to talk about, but it shewed a spirit of lav ishness. Mr. Gulick said he would not attempt to reply in detail to what had been said, bnt it weuld appear that it was a personal mat ter. It is fortunate that they have a re quirement of this kind, showing they have more voters and more accommodations to be provided for at the elections. Mr. Godfrey Brown said that the Minis ters thought the expenses at tbe other poll ing places were in proportion to Honolulu. lie innintuinfd that the number of voters were dt-crt--Hin throughout the Kingdom and eveu if they did increase, it would not increase the expense. In answer to Mr. W. O. Smith, Minister Gulick said ho could not give the exact ex penses, not having the figures before him. Tho Attorney-General said knowledge is conveyed through the press, and lit tie as he liked newspapers, let the money be spent, as every voter has a right to be informed of what is going on, and it is the duty of the Government to furnish him with that in formation at any expense, and that can only be done through tho press. Noticing his friend, the Hon. Member for Lihue, about to rise, the A1;torney-Gneral said he was. not alluding to him as a proprietor. One thousand dollars is little enough for the in formation conveyed by the newspapers in the matters of elections and other business f public importance. The Government ought to be allowed to spend $500 or $l,00O as long as it is for a good object. Better to allow the Government to spend tho money than that tho money should be spent by any private party or cliques. Motion carried, and item inserted. - Mr. W. O. Smith moved to re-consider the vote on the report of the committee on the inspection of boilers afloat and ashore Carried. Mr. W. O. F mi th. moved it be made the order for Satui day. The Attorney-General said there was; something enticing in saving life, but there wasHomething more enticing, it is a month ly salary. He gave h's reasons for present ing the hill, and also his reasons for oppos ing it. He had suddenly become impressed with a notion of retrenchment. He bad been wicked in the past, but proposed to be. good whilst lie staid amongst them He was partly compelled to this course for the sake of the lawyers in the House. Let the steamboat owners be responsible for explo sions, and let the lawyers reap the benefit. He thought they had better defeat this bill for fear of losing their reputation. He felt for the planters and also fer those who carry natives from island to island. Let theta defeat the bill, and leave the safety of the people to Providence. ... Mr. Kaulukou moved it be made the order of the day for Monday. Carried. Mr. Cecil Brows moved the item of $18 OOO'for Palace Stables be stricken out. Mr. Howell moved it be reduced to $S0OQ. The ayes and noes were taken on the- mo tion to strike out. Ayes Baker, Cecil 'rown, Kalua, Kanea- f lii, W. O. Smith, Gardner, Hitchcock, dm- wila, Pilipo, Godfrey Brown, Dote, Palo hau. Total, 12. Noes Gibson, Galick, Neumann, Bishop, . Dominis, Cleghorn, Isenberg, Dowsett, Bush, Mott Smith, Judd, Kaae, Kanesv Walker, Macfarlane, Kaulukou, Keau, 3J1U kalaai, Amara, Kaulia, Aholo, Richardson, Kamakele, Kamhane, Nahinu, Kaonaxaano, Howell, Kupihea, Nakaleka. Total. t? Mr. Isenberg moved to pass the it eta at $10,000. Lost. Item passed as in the bill at $18,000. - Mr. Judd moved to re-consider tho itsta of $2,500 for painting historical pictures, and purchasing a portrait of Queen Kapk lani. Lost: - ' Mr. Cecil Brown moved that all the itnsta under the head of the Interior Departceent pass as a whole. Carried. Mr. W. O. Smith moved a re-consideration of the item. Motion lost. Mr. Isenberg moved to take up the Pilot Bill. Motion lost. . FTXANCE DEPARTMENT Mr. W. O. Smith moved to strike out the item of salary for Auditor-General. Motion lost. Mr. Kalua moved the salary ef Deputy Collector-General be raised from $5,000- to $6,000. Carried. Mr. Godfrey Brown moved to raise the salary of Collector at Mahukons, from $300' to $2,000. Mr. Dole moved it pass at $1,200. Passed at $2,000. Mr. Godfrey Brown moved to reduce the salary of Keeper of Steamer Warehouse from $1,200 to SGOO. Carried. The Attorney-General moved to raise the salary of Keeper of Kerosene Warehouse from SGOO to $1,200. Mr. Howell moved it pass at $900. Passed at $1,200. Mr. Godfrey Brown moved to raise salary of guard at Mahukona to $1,200. Carried. The Attorney-General moved to re-consider the item of salary of steamer warehouse keeper, and that it paas at $1,200. Carried. Mr. mtchcock moved to increase salary of guard at Hilo to $1,800. Carried. ' Mr. Bishop moved to raise the item of In cidentals to Custom House to $5,000. Passed.