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News and Vitwt
Truth and Sincerity
Are Practically Attempting To
Fill What Demand There Is
For Second-Class Ball.
If There Is Room for Another
Circuit Public Is Willing
Jo Be Shown.
It l« the general opinion among fol
lowers of baseball that outlaw leagues
attempting to compete with the majors
and the higher classes of minors stand
little show of success. The backers of
the newly organized Columbian league,
which was launched at Chicago, Sat
urday, with prospects of teams at De
troit, Chicago. Kansas City. Milwau
kee, Bt. and Louisville, have the
right Idea about the only way possible
to make good. They will not compete
with the majors
In announcing that they do not In
tend to make war upon th? old organ
isations and that they do not Intend
to pay enormous salaries for players,
but will content themselves with what
they can get at reasonable prices, they
Lave practically taken the stand that
they will offer only second-class ball.
Again, they will play on dates not
taken by the big teams. In other words
they do not intend to compete with
the major clubs, enter a field
which la now occupied in the cities
named by semi-pro team*. Whether
there Is money enough in this field to
pay the traveling expenses of teams
taking long jumps is a question that
only experience can decide definitely.
The promoter of the Detroit club. A.
John Roeslnk. has managed semi-pro
team* In this city for some time, hold
lug the games at Mack park. On Sun
days he has had quite a following and
evidently has made some money, but
he has not affected the attendance at
Bennett Park.
In reality, aside from the hlgh
."cundlng name of the league and the
long distances teams will have to trav
el, there does not seem to be much
► difference between the minor teams
• that are engaged each summer In the
towns of the new league and those
of the new organisation. They will
cover the same field with aome ad
vance, perhaps. In the class of playera.
* Aa in the theater line there may be
.room for lower priced attractions lu
c lh« same city with the high-classed
places, and, if then- is. the competi
tion loving American people will be
perfectly willing to show. However,
the hero-worshipping fandom would
lather see Cobb and Baker have a run
in at third from the right field bleach
ers at two bits a throw than see sec
ond raters from behind the plate at
fifteen cents.
Nobody has any kick on the new
league. Its backers have Just as much
right to try out their ideas at their
own expense as the founders of the
American league did, and there are
doubtless many who would hall with
glae any little disturbance they may
chance to kick up for the present base
ball organisation of the country.
The award of Pitcher Salmon to the
Wgrkmen by the National Commission
Yffterll* Had been claimed by the Car
dtnsfcr is a forecast of what may be
common in Class C leagues as a result
of the new provision which makes an
affidavit necessary with the signing of
each contract before It can be filed
with Secretary Farrell.
'Salmon was a school boy player
whom. Bresnahan, b?Th« St. Louis Na
tions. thought he had clamped by «
agreement To play with him
after his term at school had expired
In the meantime Connie Mack signed
ihe boy. Now he Is awarded to the
Athletics in spite of Bresnahan's pro
Hitharto in minor leagues it has
been possible to secure "accepted
terms" over a Player’s signature,
which practically bound him to the
riub getting his autograph, but which
was not a baseball contract that would
disbar him from playing amateur ball.
It could be arranged to keep the play
er's signing under the hat until the
college season was over, but in case
there was a contest the first agree
ment stood.
Now the player cannot sign unless
he wishes it to be made public through
an affidavit. The managers can get
all kinds of verbal or even written
promlaea, but they will not hold In
baseball uoleas the contract la proper
ly filed, as was the esse with Pitcher
Buffalo Is throwing a fit or two be
cause ft is afraid that It is going to
lose some of the Detroit players which
, it thinks it has coming. Here is what
one Buffalo writer says about It:
| “The fact that Manager Stallings
has had a conference with Manager
Callahan, of the Chicago White Sox.
end that he is due to have a further
talk with President Navln. of Detroit,
has turned the eyes of the Buffalo
fans westward Manager Stallings
had the promise of several good plat
ers from Detroit last year, but Man
agar Jennings was unable to get
waiters on all of them, and the Buf
falo Infield was weak all reason as
a result. President Navln, of Detroit,
stnde his purchase of the Providence
International league team, (with
Hugh Jennings. Ty Cobb and others).
It naturally anxious to turn all hts
vurplus material oxer to the Provi
dence teem, and would do so at once,
for a previous agreement with the
ll.'.ffalo management, tn the confer
ence between Stallings and Savin.
i the matter will undoubtedly be Axed
i up. so that Buffalo will K*>r pome of
Ihe plnywra, and Providence, the
others. “Chick” Lathers, the Infield*
, Vr. "Dei” Drake, of the outfield, third
baseman Moriarly, "Big" Ed i.afltte.
the leading pitcher of the Interna
liens! league two years ago. and out
. fielder “Davy” Jones, are the Tigers
slated for release rrnvidenc* wants
. there ail. hut Buffalo has s contract
a irb Detroit for surplus plaver* and
Manager Stallings may insist on its
CHICAGO, Jsn. 15.—President
Murphy, of the Cubs, today re
fused to confirm the report that
Roger Bresnahan. of the Car
dinals, Is to trade First Base
man Konetchy to the Cubs in re
turn for Reulbach and Jimmy
Smashes Distance Mark at Ar
cadia W ith a Leap of
126 Feet.
WINONA. Minn.. Jan. 15. —Eraar
Lund, the crac k ski jumper of Chip
pewa Falls, Wis.. is expected to set a
new world's record in ski jumping in
the International tourney this winter
following his sensational work on
Thompson's Hill at Arcadia yesterday.
Lund leaped 12« feet on the Tamarack
Bkl club's course, a few minutes after
Mars Haugen bad broken the old rec
ord by leapiug 124 feet.
Unless Consulted About Palzer
Go, Johnson Will Balk
In July.
CHICAGO, Jan. 15.—Jack Johnson
made good today on bis threat to run
amuck among the plans for a world's
championship fight between himself
and Jim Flynn.
"There ain't gonna be no fight.”
This was the big black s first state
ment. lAter he qualified it by saying
that unless he la consulted immedi
ately regarding plans for the Flynn-
Palzer battle he will withdraw from
the agreement to fight Flynn next
July. Johnson's complaint is made
under his agreement with Jack Cur
ley. Flynn's manager, that neither
fighter shall go into any bouts before
i the championship affair without the
j consent of the other. Johnson says
he ac*-eed to Flynn’s fight With Kublak
: but he was not consulted about the
Palzer fight and declares that should
i Flynn be held to a draw it would ruin
the prospects of the championship
battle. Johnson intimates that a
money consideration might Induce
him to agree to the Flynn Palzer
ST. LOUIS, Mo., Jan. 15.—There
will be two Walahes with the White
Sox dn their training Jaunt to Texas
this year. Vincent Walsh, the 15-year
old pitcher of the champion Wabadas
of this city, will make the Jaunt with
l Comiskey s men. Ed. Walsh, the fa
mous spitball pitcher, is reponslble
for the lad's opportunity to take a
peek at the southland and visit the
camp of a big league team in train
ing. He will have a chance that
comes to few youths of his age.
Big Ed. Is no relation to the young
ster, but interested himself In Vin
cent after having seen him pitch a
few games for the Wabadas. The
Chicago pitcher and Vincent’s father
were schoolmates, and the two of
them, with old Joe Quinn, former
star second sacker of half a dozen
major league clubs, journeyed out to
the Wabadas’ park to see the lad
work every time the White Sox were
in town last season.
NEW YORK. Jan. 15.—The ques
tion of the ability of a skillful boxer
to whip a slugger will be determined
Thursday night, when Abe Atteil, the
world's champion featherweight,
meets Knockout Brown, the slugging
lightweight. Atteil is regarded as the
shiftiest fighter in the ring, while
Brown has a terrific “kick” In eack
hand. Atteil will concede 12 pounds
to Brown.
NEW YORK, Jan. 15—Willie Hop
i pe. the youthful billiard champion,
and George Sutton are practicing harS
j for their match for the world s 1* 2
1 balk line championship, at the Hotel
Astor, on Feb. 7. Hoppe defeated
Sutton for the championship on Nov.
2R, but neither player was satisfied
with the result, as the heat In the
hail made the balls roll Improperly.
SAN FRANCISCO. Cal., Jan. 15.
Fight fans here hailed with delight
today the announcement that ‘•One-
Round” Hogan, who has been cam
palgning In the .east, has been match
ed to meet Tomv Murphy, of New
York. In a 10-bound fight here Jan.
31. The boys will weigh In at 138
pounds at 5 o'clock.
CHICAGO, Jan 16.—Manager Jim
my Callahan, of the White Box. an
nounced today that be will start for
the southland about February to. Cal
lahan will precede the team about ten
days and will take a string of three
pitchers and two catchers with him
The Box will make their early training
trip through Texas
I ■♦•■ A—• - . T
I# ■**«• tfcat H. R. leak# wa«
ranked, nr Pan told that hts pretence In
I the rapacity of a book!# ru not
aeadad at Juarea.
They're going to drop one football
mandate next summer, when vareliy
candidates trot out for preliminary
The whip, like, ' Fall on that ball,
freebie!” will be missing. In its place
coaches will shout to vet and new
comer. "Pick it up can't you? Get it
on the bound.”
Varsity inflelders will be In de
mand and trick-tumblers will be out
of date.
Sam White, of Princeton, the big
blonde end who defeated Yale and
Harvard and made the Tiger cham
pion of the east, is responsible for the
new order. His trick of snapping up
a loose bail and scoring touchdowns
did more to speed up the game than
any one play of the season.
Many critics have said "White Is
the luckiest guy that ever wore mole
skins.'* but his success was not due
to luck, but to persistent practice In
grabbing a hounding ball.
The real story of Sanford B. White's
(yes, that's his name) great work In
the Harvard and Yale games dates
back a year.
In the Yale-Princeton game Nov.
Wednesday—Detroit **Y” v*. Bat
tle Creek ”Y" at Battle Creek. Uni
versity of Detroit vs. Niagara Uni
versity at Niagara Falls.
Thursday—Detroit "Y ’ vs. Grand
Rapids “\" at Grand Rapids; Uni
versity of Detroit vs. Canisus Col
lege at Buffalo. D. A. C. vs. Over
lands at Toledo.
Friday—Detroit ”Y" va. Evans
ton "Y" at Evanston; Rayls vs. Hope
College at Holland. Western vs
Adrian High at Adrian
Saturday—Eastern vs. Ann Arbor
High at Detroit; Central vs. Pontiac
High at Detroit; Friendship Lodge
vs. Bav City *‘Y" at Bay City.
The fifth annual edition of Spald
ing’s Official Baseball Record for 1912,
edited by John B. Foster, has Just
been published and contains a fund
of Information for every follower of
the national game. The Record is a
timely work of reference, containing
aa it does the complete averages of
each league in organized baseball
major and minor—with diagrams
showing the weekly standing of each
club In each league, a short resume
of the season In each, and a hat of
previous champions. The book is not
wholly statistical, however, as a his
tory of the past year In baseball,
chronologically arranged. Is presented,
an account is given of the evolution
of the hall from the early days to the
present cork center ball, the 1912
selections for the Spalding Baseball
Hall of Fame, world series records,
and minor league happenings.
CHICAGO. Jan. in.—Hugh Duffy,
former manager of the White Sox, Is
rnroute for Milwaukee today to take
charge of the affairs of the Brewers.
Owing to owner Havenors Illness, It Is
thought Duffy will he In active control
from now on.
Is it good business to make a man
ager out of a star player?
Experience* Indicate It is not The
latest example Is Hal Chase, who re*
signed as leader of the Highlanders.
No player has more ability than
Chase; no player has more gray mat
ter; no player quicker to take advant
age of opportunity; no player more
popular with his team mates Appar
ently he would make au Ideal man
ager. yet Chase had au unpleasant
year in 1911.
When George Stallings was leader
of the team he did the driving, while
Chase did much of the directing
When Stallings was in trouble. Chase
' loomed up as his logical successor
[Chase retained his power of directing,
'bu: he lacked the driving ability.
Chase proved to be too good a fel
flow to make a manager.
.Contrary to < nato.nt his new duties
did not sffect his playing in fact his
[work ass player would have been
l>krd to improv* ojl
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12, 1910, Daly, Yale captain, missed a
punt on his 22-yard Hue, and White
recovered the ball.
He fell upon the ball because he
had been drilled to do so day after
day. by coaches who adhered to the
old order instead of seeing something
new, when It was shown to them.
White had a better chance to score
at that time than he had this year,
when he succeeded twice, but he
obeyed orders, even if In doing so he
broke a lot of l*rinceton students.
All that winter and last spring,
Princeton talked of what "might have
been.” White always insisted he
could have scored, but the men who
"knew" football laughed at him.
Despite this attitude White began
to work on his Idea. He kicked the
ball about and practiced grabbing it
on the bound, until baseball practice
When Princeton called for football
candidates last September, White re
turned to the attack. He insisted
upon his theory and to
Keene Fitzpatrick was delegated the
job of discouraging the man with a
Though Smothering Sarnia 5-1,
Detroit Missed Capt. Piett
In Game Saturday Night Team-Work Was a Lost Art With the
Detroit Hockey Seven.
Although the Detroit hockey team
had but little trouble in smothering
the Sarnia seven with a 5-1 score,
Saturday evening, at tne Arena with
out the services of Capt. Piett, who
was taken out of the game because
of protests from the O. H. A. on ac
count of alleged professionalism, his
absence was noticeable. Piett has
been the main factor in holding the
men on the forward line to team play
and while the Individual efforts of the
orange crew were top-notch they were
not In unison enough to count as much
as they should have.
John 1.. Sulllvaa ha* takes off •lx«y
pounds lately by leading the simple
life In the country.
l alled Mate* Gold asaorlatlna’a tour
nament will by held at Chicago next
Praak WrWanae and Johnay G«e
echel, southpaw bowl*r*. will meet for
a serb-s of games at Fett’s alleys Fri
day evening and another the Thursday
following at the Printers' club alleys
for a side bet of |55.
A meeting of Windsor hockey en
thusiasts to complete arrangements for
a league In Windsor has been tailed
for tonight.
Joksaos mmyn f or bett should refrnet.
ffure! That would take more news
paper spare.
Rasters defeated WrWlllnn nt basket
ball Saturday afternoon. «« to 10.
Cleveland will base a heavyweight
bowling team In the A. B C tourna
mert. the men averaging 204 pounds.
While he Is bring generally label
ed as a managerial fallurb ( doubt If
any ope could have made a better
showing than Chase did.
With a pitching staff regarded as
the best In the league, he was con
ceded a chance to finish well up. The
pitching staff was one big reason for
Chase's failure. Instead of showing
the torm expected the staff w ! a« an
in and oitter. Injuries to several play
ers. as well as his own serious Ill
ness. was a combination that would
have floored the best.
In time the playing manager Is
liable to become extinct In the major
league* Experience ha* shown that
the duties of manager are enough for
ary man. In National league
j Fred Clarke and Frank Chance will
j probably manage from the bench this
(year. In the Nmerlcan league Jimmy
! Ca'h’ban. Ikvbhy Wallace and Jfike
Htah will he playing managers and
I Htahi tbe only one in the game every
t da j.
Fitzpatrick, fortunately, knows a
good thing when he sees it and as he
watched White grab the ball time and
again, seeming to outguess the oval
as It hopped craxily In an unexpected
direction, he realized the value of a
man like White with a loot>e ball.
Upon Fitzpatrick's recommendation,
the coaches began drilling the eleven
in picking up the ball instead of fall
ing upon it, and w'on both of Prince*
ton’r big games.
Princeton ranks White above Poe.
John DeWltt. Phil King and other
heroes. He Is the only individual who
ever won games from both Yale and
Harvard through his own efforts.
White doesn’t care for football.
Baseball in his forte. His ambition
has been to wallop Yale. He has on
a few occasions.
It was White's hit In the final Yale-
Harvard game of 1910 that broke a
4 4 tie an*i won the series. Against
Harvard last spring he won with a
three-base hit that scored three men.
Laier. Yale-Princeton game, he scored
the winning run. He has made a
name as one of the best orange and
black basketball players.
It is hard that Piett should be
forced to remain out of the games
with the O. H. A. teams. The offense
with which he is charged, it seems,
is playing with professionals at some
time or other in his career with Ca
nadian teams, and he says that he
has never received a cent for his ser
In case the Canadian amateur body
which has supervision over this mat
ter, refuses to see Manager Brown's
side of the argument, it is likely that
American teams or at least those not
connected with the O. H. A. will be
played In the future. Houghton is
one of the promising teams that is
looking for games with the Detroit
Saturday, Archie Hamilton filled
Piett’s place and did It in a very ac
ceptable manner. Hamilton is an old
Toronto player and he knows the
game from face-off to time.
On the forward line Hannenburg
and Farlow managed to cop four of
the goals secured by Detroit, getting
two each, while Gillies aided with an
other. On defense, Black starred, his
rushing back of the puck after break
ing up a Sarnia attack, was great.
Kmery played his usual strong game.
Prout at goal didn’t get a chance to
shine, getting but few stops.
For Sarnia, Proctor was the only
man to score. Goaltender Cameron had
a lot of work to do, and did It in a
spectacular manner Had It not been
for his agility, the counters for De
troit would have been more than
MONROVIA. Cab! Jan. 16.—Al
though the training season Is still two
months away, Frank Chance, of the
Chicago Cubs has already begun hia
attempts to holster up the Bruin In
field. He has signed 1a Smith, of Red
lands. Cal., touted as one of the class
iest shortstops on the Pacific Coast.
Fur-Lined Coats
Cheap as Plain Cloth
NEW YORK. Jan. 15 Arthur
Devlin, of (he New York Giants,
once regarded as the premier
third baseman of the country,
uiay wear another uniform in
1912. Devlin, tired of warming
the bench, has for hla re
lease. Baltimore Ts anxious to
secure him if National league
clubs will waive ou his services.
So Athletic Teams of Smaller
Colleges In Illinois May
Be Blacklisted.
CHICAGO, Jan. 15.—N0 end of dis
cussion and some ill-feeling has fol
lowed the vote of the “Little Five,"
college conference in letting down the
bars for summer baseball. This sub
ject has been a bone of contention at
every meeting of the “Hig eight” con
ference, and it is expected to be the
rock on which the conference may
split up. It is also predicted that the
Athletic teams of the “Little five."
Ijtke Forest, Monmouth, Knox, Ar
mour Institute and Beloit may be
blacklisted by the larger colleges.
Observations From
The Sporting Dome
There will be a singular condition
cf affairs in the major leagues this
year. In the National league it has
been variously asserted that the
Giants, Phillies, Cubs, Pirates. Reds.
Brooklyns and Cardinals will llnish
In the first division. This leaves only
the Bostons for the second division.
In the American league the different
claimants have the Athletics. High
landers, White Sox. Tigers, Red Sox
ami Naps for the first division, so that
the second four will consist of only
Washington and St. lx>uis.
George Reason, manager of the De
troit branch of the Cartercar Cos., has
Just received a telegram from the New
York show, stating that William Jen
nings Bryan had visited the displays
of the different 1912 models and had
selected a Model “It” Cartercar
Mr. Bryan purchased this car ex
pressly for the use of Mrs. Bryan.
He studied the operating chassis on
exhibition there very carefully, and
finally chose the Cartercar on account
of its remarkable simplicity, safety
and ease of control.
He has had a very good opportun
ity to study all the leading makes of
automobiles in his various tours over
the country, and it speaks well for
the Cartercar that It should be chosen
by one so well acquainted with motor
NEW YORK, Jan 15.—New York
yachtsmen have been Invited to par
ticipate in the great trans-Paciflo
ocean race from Ran Pedro to Hono
lulu. which will start on June 11. #
O'flrlrn (isl« §IO.OOO f
Friends of Joe O’Brien, who know
uhat they are talking about, positively
declare that he Is drnwtng down 110,-
000 a year as the official representative
of John T Brush in New York. Be
sides he is allowed 12,500 expense
money to be used as needed in main
taining the social end of his position.
Olympic Too Early.
Chicago athletes do not approve of
the plan to start the Olympic games
on June 29. claiming that it does not
afford enough time for training, par
ticularly for the collegians.
Hoppe and McGraw Partners.
Willie Hoppe, the billiard champion,
pnd John McGraw, manager of the
Giants, have become partners as bil
liard-room owners in New York.
Central’s Basketball Team Looks
Like One of Championship Caliber
24-23 Victory Over Ypsilanti Teachers Makes It Look Good To
Central Supporters.
Central High school basketball
team looks good for a championship
this season after their 24-23 victory
over the Ypsl teachers, Saturday
Cp to last week, Central had attack
ed nothing but weak high school
teams against which they piled tip
points galore. Then, without any
Edittd by
. »
Dickinson and Schaub, Semi-Pro.
Players, and MacConachie,
Have Places.
( hick Lathers Is Mentioned as
A Tiger Who May Be
Offered Position.
A. J. Roesink returned this mornlpg
from Chicago where he attended a
meeting of the magnates of the newly
organised Columbian Baseball league,
with a franchise for the Detroit club.
He announced that three men naw
in Detroit would be among the play
ers In the new team. Horace Dickin
son and Joe Schaub. outfielders who
ha\e played with Uoeslnk’a semi-pro
teams for some time, and Gerald Mac-
Conachie, who belongs to the Norfolk.
\ a . team, are the men.
M ith these three men as a starter
Manager Roeslnk will build up hla
teum from players who may be ob
tained from semi-pro teams all over
the country or from the league teams
In the national organisation.
I am optimistic in regard to tha
success of the new league,” said Mr
Roes ink this morning. ”1 have al
ways drawn good crowds with semi
pro teams at Muck park and shall ex
pect to do the same with the club In
the new league.
m JU i ßt J lo .* are tr y ,n * to get
( lev eland Into the organization In or
der to assist Detroit in holding qp
this end of the circuit M. A. Bobick.
a Cleveland man with plenty of finan
cial hacking, will probably enter. He
wanted, as I did, to get into the Uni
ted States league, but when Its back
ers decided not to come this far west,
he turned his attention to this west
ern organization.
T he cities who are now in the or
ganization. are Detroit, Chicago, Mil-
K «ui»as City, and 3t Louis,
with Louisville, Cincinnati, Indian
apolis and Cleveland possibilities
“Moat of the criticism of the league
has been along the line of lack of
financial backing. I have two mon
eyed men in Detroit back of roe in
this proposition so that there la no
tear for Detroit on that score
“As for players. I shall not try to
rob the big leagues, but will confine
my efforts to picking up men about the
country and here and there a major
league player who Is dissatisfied with
his Job.
Chick leathers of the Tigers, for in-
Manc'e, might want to consider a Job
with me. I understood that there ii
evefy possibility that he will be sent
to Providence against his wishes. He
may want to drop organized baseball
and play with my club. However, I
have not as yet consulted him about
‘ I figure that I have an east side
crowd to cater to, the same as Bennett
Park has a west side crowd. The east
side Is nearly as large as the part of
the city west of Woodward avenue and
it has a better class of baseball pa
trons. Parks In the western part of
the city have failed, while Mark park
In the eastern has been a decided suc
“There is one thing I object to. and
that Is having the new league called
an outlaw league. I don't see yrhy
It is an outlaw any more than another
theater In the town would be an out
law theater.
“The players In the Detroit club will
he paid from S2OO to $250 a month.
The admission to the games will be
from 25 to 50 cents. We will play
here only when the Tigers are away,
alternating with the Cleveland team
in case It comes .into the league. Thus
you see we are in no way trying to
buck the big leagues, but are rather
trying to cover a field they do not en
NFW YORK. Jan. 15.—Marty Dales,
lightweight boxer, of Denver, Col., will
meet Young Battling Nelson in a ten
round fight in Brooklyn, tonight. The
boys will weigh in at 130.
graduation they humped up against a
fast college five and managed to nose
out a one-point victory. •
Central's passing was very accurate,
and the basket shooting excellent.
Besides that they fought out from be
hind a four-point lead that the teach
ers bad on them In the first half to a

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