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News and Views Truth and Sincerity ATTEII HUS ONLY DIE ,011 MORE IS CHAMPION OF FEATHERWEIGHTS —GARVEY. Cleveland Writer Thinks That Age Will Have Told Its Tale on Abie {CILBANE WILL BE STRONG Question in Tomorrow’s Bout Is, Can Johnny Equal Abe's Wits? V By J. P. QARVEY. CLEVELAND, 0.. Feb. 21.—Cham pions must come aiul champions must go. Consistent with this order ot things, one is coming uud one i» going tomorrow, when the two great est featherweights in the world meet *U the historic fistic arena at Vernon,. Cal. Abe Attell, while a noble little performer and the best of his time, cannot go on forever. No champion ever was able to. and the peerless liebrew, his wonderful accomplish ments notwithstanding, cannot be ex |n*cted to upset the precedent let by the physical makeup of man. l-ike the rest of the fighting leaders ot various decades, he must bow to the inevitable. Abe Attell. next Tuesday, will be 29 years old. He must combat ago well as the splendid assault of the youth from Cleveland. Can he suc cessfully cope with both? It lie can and does, the boxing fraternity must again admit the genius of the veterau, as it has been forced to do so many times In the past, and accept his mas tery as a thing unassailable, for an other long period of months, or until the further advance of time makes inroads upon his strength. For if At tell defeats Kilbane he must indeed have his head about him and he must call upon the last ounce of general ship and ring craft that 12 years of experience have given him. I here fore, if Abe wins, ii will be because ,e is the belter scientist, using his ait rather than his strength, to gain him the victory. That is the whole problem in this contest—the doubt as to Attell’s phys ical powers, whether they have suf fered by the march of time, and the uncertainty that Kilbaues artistry will be a match lor the cleverness ot the Hebrew champion. Attell, as we know’, has led the featherweights lor tho past eight years. He Is consid ered supreme in his class and ills abil ity to meet and defeat men of all sizes up to lSu pounds further gives him favor with the sporting public. I < I K» the other hand. Kilbane has yet to prove his ability. Ol course bis Cleveland followers know his capabil ity, but the country at large does not. His knowledge of boxing and its in tricacies is only three years and a Half old. Whether or not he has ad vanced sufficiently in that time in the science of the game to warrant a i>o sit lon alongside Attell, Is open to question. Kllbane has climbed rapidly. He hffi# been an apt student. And he has applied himself diligently to the task of learning all' the ins and outs of box ing from the simple left Jab up to the laeutty of figuring the weaknesses ot an opponent. Nature supplied him with an abundance of talent. He has always been fast of foot, quick 10 think and quick to act. Careful study taught him how to hit. how ro pro tect himself, how and where to uae his speed. Johnny is undeniably a finished all-around boxer, whose heart is young. But w’lll his craft be equal to the craft of At tell ? That’s where the battle will be fought in—in the respective brains of Kdlbane and Attell. The brain of the latter carries all the tricks of the game. More than a decade of experi ence has rendered him expert in ver satility. If one style fails. If the open ing he wants Kllbane to fall Into does not present itself, Abe will try for a different kind of an opening. Kllbane will be doing his own bluffing, will he playing for his own favorite punch. It will be a battle of strategy, in every round, with the champion and the as pirant, each devotiug his concentrated attention to outguessing the other. . On® littUi allp,-<>««* -u-isling mmcaMtla tion, and bingo!—over goes the punch that may mean defeat for one or the other. And yet each has to chance just such x conttfigeucy. The writer believes Kllbane will win this magnificent battle of wits. There has not been a featherweight like him in recent years. If he cannot beat Abe Attell there Is no other boy lin the universe who can do It. Kll •ane, I think, is every bit as clever of brain and of body as Abe. He is stronger, faster, and younger. Attell haa the self-assurance, but It Is doubt ful If he has the strength he once had. Bvan if he were as strong, I think Kllbane would be a match for him. Johnny has the required confidence. Since he met Attell a year ago last October In Kansus City, he has felt equal to the task of toppling ihe Cali tornlan from his throne. Then he was a boxer of the hit and get-away sort. Johnny has undergone a trans formation. His knockout of Joe Rivers proved shim a fighter as well as a clever man. He Is sure of himself now; he knows he haa the punch any time he wants to Use It. 1 look for Johnny to be on top of the champion and force the fighting from the first round on. He will be hard for Abe to hit on account hit shiftiness and varleiy of attack and his speed at getting in and out. He will make Attell miss him by wid er margin than any other man Ahe haa fought. And all the time he will u* fighting as wall aa boxing. 4 _ There will be little running away this time on Ktlhane’s part. He will likely get atung often and bard for the finrt ten rounds, but Johnny ran take p punch as well as Abe. I expect Attell to azeel at close range fighting and at long range as well. If he slugs toe to toe with' Abe, Attell will likely inuas up his features. But depend on tiger Pitching recruit HAS FIGHTING SFIRIT IN HIS COLLEGE BASKETBALL <jk Aid t , * * j \ ~<r • Ia JOII* A. IX Bi t’, the Clevelander to have his head working all the time. He won’t do what he finds out he can’t do. Kilbane won’t get well started be fore the tenth round because he is a Marathoner, while Attell will be grad ually tiring, owing to the pace he will be forced to travel, and long about the sixteenth round you will find him stalling SHORT 'LENGTHS Tbe lire** « r»i« rn Trvttlag circuit opens at Muitfhall on July 2. Grand Hi. 1 ul*. Kalamazoo, l»**trolt, Cleveland, lu.iutur, Peoria. Galesburg. Milwaukee. Springfield. .Muskogee, Dallas and Pilot nix all get dates. Hilly Carpenter, of Saaluaw, all but knocked out Jimmy VVnelan, of De troit. In an eight-round bout at Flint last night. ••*‘ld" Wyatt hat been ehoarn captain of Kastern High’s track team. Pros pects at Eastern are bright. The I . of I). Junior* defeated Mr- Milian High five at the university gym yeritrday, ;l3 to 12. CATCHER MATTESON OF BAY CITY TO ALBANY AT.RAN Y, N Y. Feb 21.—An nouncement was made here today that Catcher Matteson, of the Ray City, Mich., team had been purchased by the local club of the New York State* league. POGGENBURGIS AGAIN THE BILLIARD CHAMP NEW YORK. Feb. 21.—J. Ferdinand Foggenburg is today the proud pos sessor of the international amateur 18.2 billiard title, having defeated his old rival, Charles F. Conklin, of Chi cago. last night by a score of 400 to 191 in the final match of the tourna ment. NEGRO BOXER REPORTED DYING AS RESULT OF BATTLE IN CLEVELAND - - - CLEVELAND, 0., Feb. 21. Charles Ellis, u Negro boxer, is reporled dying (hie morning rrr a local hospital, the result ot a blow over the heart he re ceived In a bout last night with Joe MutlO, ftfi Italian athlete. Ellis fell unconscious when Motto landed tils blow, and he ouly partly revived early today. News and Gossip of The Boxers Can’t Be Policeman, 80 May Be White Hope—Joe Mandot Gets News paper Decielon Over Pal Moore— Lewis Is at Weight for Fight with Gibbons. Milwaukee fight promoters waxed joyful today with the information that Fred had failed to pass the physical examination as a city policeman., was bent on police duty. This falling, the promoters say he will listen to ‘ white hope" noise and Jack Johnson's crown is In danger, l.ehner was u trifle overweight to qualify as au o fftcer. Sport writers today give Joe Mandot. of New Orleans, the unanimous newspaper decision o\er I'al Moore of Philadelphia, In their 10-round bout at New Orleans, yesterday uflernoon. Mandot was forced to extend himself in the last round to win. Moore slowed up nfter a spurt In the ninth. Willie Lewis announced today that he was already down to weight for his fight on Friday night with Mike Gibbous, the St. Paul w^ltcrweight, at th« Empire Athletic club. New > o r k. He says that he turned down an alluring offer 10 go to France be< ause he was confident he could whip Gibbons. Kill Ilurua, t-bu.Ww York w'Fsratde'TTjtWweight, Is today clamoring for another bout with Jack Goodman who W’as given a newspaper decision over him last night at the Fairmounl Athletic club. Although Goodman was the cleverer, he was floored once by a vicious left hook. ■ « t’arl Morris and Jim Stewart, "w hlte hopes," are training today for an other battle at the Kmpire Athletic club. New York, on March 20. Announcement Is made that Puckey McFarland and One-Round llo gan have, finally agreed on terras an and will mix In a 10-round affair at the FaJrmonnt Athletic club. New York, on March 4. THE DETROIT TIMES: WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1912. THE,TIMES SPORT PAGE THAT OUBUC IS SCRAPPY WIS SHOWN it HIS WORK WITH CHAUNCEYJOHNSOH Played a Hard, Aggressive Game Against “Y” Basketball Captain • WAS NOTRE DAME STUDENT Opposed Association at Light Guard Armory Here Four Years Ago By RALPH L. YONKER. I hir John A. Dubuc, the Montreal Tiger recruit, who will match his l row rag with a half-dozen others for a job as hurler on the Tiger staff, has the fighting spirit, tie is one of the scrappiest men on the diamond TMs is gathered from his showing against Chauncey Johnson, the De troit "Y” basketball sfar who oppos ed Dubuc four years ago when the Noire Dame team was defeated by the association men at the Light Dust a annory. Johnson, as every fol lower of basketball in the city knows, is no easy mark for an aggressive player, but even Chauncey respects the fight the new Tiger displayed in that game. "He is a very aggressive fellow,” says Johnson. . "He wan after the ball •veiy minute and scrapping for it at every turn. He played hard all the lime and his work was so strenuous that It Inclined to roughness a good deal "in ray opinion he has the proper fighting spirit. He was out for all there was in it in basketball. I op pofce.l him here and saw hlin play at M. A. C. under collegiate rules and he showed to great advantage." It goes without saying that his ► pliif Is going to help him, both in getting a Job on the Tiges and in making good after he does. Hughie Jennings likes lots of light. So does every live manager. When you drop in from Montreal, John, don’t forget that fight. Billy Evans, the famous umpire, tells a- story of "Chick” Lathers, the former Tiger, who has just signed his contract with the Providence Grays. "The fact that Manager Hugh Jen nings. of the Detroit team Is a frater nity man. saved Chick' Lathers a tart reprimand soon after he Joined the Tigers,” says Evans. T.athers was a star third-baseman at Michigan university and could hit the ball. When he graduated Jen nings signed him and In the east I-athera delivered the goods several times, as emergency hatter. Upon the return of the Tigers for a long home series. Lathers wus called upon to save the day. A hit meant a tie at least and possibly the game. "The youngster was opposed by a veteran pitcher, who never having faced Lathers did not know what to pitch. He tried to make him hit at a couple of poor Dalis, but failed and then laid one over, and Lathers drove it to right, but the hall went foul. The next was a hall and the next a long foul. "With the count three and two, the crowd was excited. At this interest ing point, several of Lather’s fratern ity brothers entered the grandstand and one emitted a whistle, to which every member of the fraternity is honor bound to recognize. "For an instant Lathers turned his head toward the grandstand and in that instant the pitcher slipped one across, to the disgust of Jennings, coaching at third. "Don’t inspect millinery when you’re up there in a pinch,” said Hughie sar castically, as he walked toward the bench, ”1 wasn't rubbering at anyone. Hughie,” returned leathers. “Didn’t you hear the frat whistle?” "Jennings said nothing, but to this day many a Tiger wonders how leathers escaped without a rasping. The baseball season of 1912 for Chi cago officially starts tomorrow night, when Manager Janies J. Callahan, of the Chicago White Box tracks south ward. blazing the trail to Waco, Tex as', where he will he joined shortly by -admnrr gnirrt ar Ifte Houth Side club. Ralph Mogridge and Joe Benz will accompany Callahan to Waco. tlfiy Russell Last To Bign. Clarence D. (Lefty) Russell was the last of the Athletics to sign his eon* trac; —and if he does not improve in disposition and performance he will be the first to go. Queer Training Stunts By Attell While Working - In Preparation For Battle With Johnny Kilbane VERNON, Cul., Feb. 21. —Here's u new one In the way of sparring part ners that Abe Attell lias put over and he claims it is the Itvcst hunch that has ever come across m some time. The Idea, or this stunt, is to give the champ an iron-clad jaw atul 10 strengthen the muscles of the no»k. It is ulso great stuff to limber up Lie muscles of the shoulders and back. Abe, in training for his tight wit . Kilbane, said that the exercise h< got with this dog is far ahead of any system now used for the same pur pose, including the wrestling tactics adopted by other champious to obluin the same results. Every movement ol the animal is fast and unexpected and the twists and jerks that lie gives (bo stick brings every muscle iuto pla> better than any form of wrestling in- vented. 0. OF 0. CONFIDENT OF TRIMMING NOTRE DIME With Heaphy and Hardy in Shape, Campbell's Men Will Be Strong The most lmi>ortant basketball game of the season for ihe L. ol D. is scheduled for tonight when the Red and White meets Notre Dame at the university gymnasium. Such is fha interest in the game that arrange ments have been made to provide ex tra seating capacity for the large crowd expected. Notre Daine is ranked with the best in Indiana this yeur. They have s string of victories that is imposing, one of them being over Loach Camp bell's men on the Notre Dame floor. However, the local athletes are epn fident of pulling u victory from ilie Hooslers this evening. With Heaphy and Hardy both back in shape, the team will be greatly strengthened. One-half of tonight’s game wlii be played under A. A. U. ruies. and one half under the collegiate code. There will be two preliminaries to the main battle, the first contest com mencing at 7:30. AVIATOR’S FUNERAL IS HELD WITHOUT MOURNING AT HIS OWN REQUEST LONDON, Feb. 21.—1n ac cordance with a wish expressed In a letter to o friend, the fu neral or Graham Gilmour, the who was killed in a fall lust week, was held today with out any evidences of mourning. The casket was taken to the cemetery in a motor van and white flowers were barred. —At Clayton's At Clayton’s— Now’s the time! Any Man’s or Young Man's S2O, $22.50 or $25 Winter Suit or Overcoat $ 1 -—the house is yours at ... ♦.. IHP • = That’s a proposition that strike* 4*4**? etrttrely too jrmwi nrnrtel Entire stocks are included—-there’s a Suit or Overcoat in just the style and .it for men or young men of every build—they're all hand-tailored—the materials couldn’t be better at the *ogular price — and the famous Hart, SchafTner & Marx clothes are included, lake your pick—Suit;t and Overcoats that were great values all season at S2O, $22.50 and $25 are yours now $14.7->. All S3O, $.35, S4O and sls Winter Suits and Overcoats now S2O All $15.00 and SIB.OO Winter Suits and Overcoats now $lO All SIO.OO and $12.50 Winter Suits and Overcoats now $0.65 (Ml and Iliad; Suit** -ilouc ex«c|»te.l » Vi Off Boys’ Winter Suits (ft. Overcoats (Mine Sui’M al«*n« cxrepttd.) Final Reductions on < ill if* sliicTcs «*T Hoy* 1 Winter Put - ntitihifO*. sweeter'*, Legging*, Aluf t.rr*. Spring Apparel In! Burl arrival* 1 n«*l title* many flr.v new tl.thg* in Hurt. S« hatfn. r A Nl \r\ ciotjies. .luMn IV Si• lami lint*-. #:!..%<* sivi. flay tun Spc«lal end lender Hat!*. It.!*) aiml M. spring iT«»lf i ii|m, ra»r t«* as. Mxnlinti .n Shirt*. t*» an. Kl> etc , d*\ Wh»n you t.*»jtr m min t the (a ’ that **l«yi'M» 'I 'l 11 •‘•-I • 1. ♦.•» l »< L* 1 l ;' , [ prl* ea, v«, 1 .in*i- ti, ..p.| w»i« rti.n in-.* Site T* ’ i dw ■ —— F. G.Clayton Cos. Tht Store , . at Satisfies. §;%*,jC' > • * mil■ * 4 ABE ATTELL SPARRING WITH HIS NEW TRAINER. OHIO TRACKS. DISLIKING NEW ROLES, TO QUIT I, U Anti-Hobble Legislation and .Point System of Determin ing’ Winners Not Favored CHICAGO, Feb. 21.—A large num ber of trotting tracks in Ohio are to be withdrawn from the American Trotting association, it was announced today, as a result of the adoptiou of a rule by that organization gradually eliminating hobbles in pacing races. Cnder the rule adopted at lust nights meeting here, no horse under live years old will be permitted to wear the straps in 1913. ami none under six years old in 1914. The Ohio racers, known as the "The Ohio Fair Boys, ’ and a number of other half-mile tracks, are expected to join 'he Na tional Trotting association which per mits the use of fHe hobbleß. Another rule changing the system of deciding points also met with op position. This provides that horses taking second, third and fourth places shall be determined by adding up their positions in -the various heals. Cnder this provision « horse winning one heat and then dropping way baric will be placed behind a horse that may have finished second in each heat. Dingley To Drive Simplex. Bert Dingley. famous for his work with a Pope-Ha rtford on the Pacific slope, will drive a Simplex in the next 500-tnlle International Sweepstakes race at the Indianapolis Motor Speed way. VV. H. Cat Ison, of Los Angeles purchased the Simplex mount In New York last week and will also enter Dingley in the Santa Monica May 4. This makes the eleventh entry to the Speedway event and Dingley is the fourteenth driver named A great lot of $1.50 and $2 Shirts at sl.lO These nr»* a’.l goad, at tplo pattern*, new H.i.* t»i*ii«ini • l’Jcuiml tu tti line Percales. Madina. etc. Actual St and ».' . idnn-d Shills at II 10 Big Reductions On Ml f in. y ''eats. All 1 ur and I'tii Lined \ut«* Cl» an t * P t* Ml I . > n* I and I'JnniH-teti.- POdtn* >;,< . , | T ,1 > k f V> Mil*-’ I id. W \\, n I» :• v M* - f - *’ ■-» * i;t... i;t i.u BOTH BROWN AND KELLI EXPECT TO WIN BATTLE Kelly is 7-1 Favorite—Greeks Line Up Behind Brown; Italians Behind Kelly CHICAGO, Feb. 21.—With Hugo Kolly, “come-back" middleweight, a 10 to 7 favorite over George "Kuock out" Browu, and with the foreign pop ulation of Chicago "betting its head off." more than a thousand tight fans prepared today to go to Kenosha lor the 10-round battle between the Ital ian and Spartan tonight. The entire Italian population hat? lined up bemud Kelly while the Greeks are support lug llrown. Both men are confident. Kelly de clared today he expected 1o bo able tj» outbox the Greek and win cn points, but added that he did uoi be lieve such defensive tactics would be necessary and predicted a knockout. "1 realize Kelly has W on me as far as experience is concerned." said Brown, "but just you watch for the flash Brown wins' any time alter the sixth round." FRENCH DOGS MONOPOLIZE ATTENTION AT BIG SHOW NEW YORK, Feb 21.—Although there are 3.out) aristocratic canine* on exhibition at Westminster Kennel Club's ahow at the Grand Central Palace, the French police dogs are mouoi>oliziug the time of the major ity of the visitors. Among the win ners "was six vear-old Alice TaThlerf of Bronxvllle. whose Boston terrier landed a blue ribbon. Thi» Is Trus, Too. Opt' really never realizes that there ate so many valuable business propo sitions running around loose until it conic* time for the ball players to t-ign up. J Edited by RALPH L YONKER Going fast — These $6. $? and $7.50 Trousers .*3.85 And ihey'cl go lifter If men Knc\' "hat grvff value they really are Artual IK. $. ami I* *59 Trnuaer* in line allwool Worsteds*. Tweeds ami Cheviot a, mostly 11. S * M make and everv pair hand-tailored; they've tC 85 $2.50. $5 and $5.50 Trousers at $1.95 Sjd»n«lld T•owner* for lintli men ami ySoina men, nimlr ip nlcohitfl < riaht in • **** ma re*, l W»u ■»te»l*. «t>\ The *•* ••(.n * I*. >tv|i-«, Aclmtl I ••** ami t \ nl’ies I* n Itl'l I' If *‘••11 I' I f _ | $4 to $6 Trousers at $2.95 for Met; ap-i Young .Men i-onaerva tlve. irml-p' R ami f’ill p»-« »t'le* In »Il • w «»e ! •|'d ... \\ orated* Mini ** li * \ lota. a'l weTlh at 1-1 |. hum) worth 49 g a *.. s,it« free..,- ROOM FOR FIVE HUNDRED 1 HTRAS IT WINDSOR t. ti Graves and McCloskey Will To Show Before Extra Half- ; Thousand Fan* Tonight - There will he room for *OO extra, faus at the Gravea-McCloskey battle at the Windsor Athletic club tonight, seat* having been placed from tbt: ring to the west wall of the new roots of the club's quarters. Ihe main go this evening will bo between a boy who slashed Paul to pieces recently, Graves, and an unknown front New York, McClps- This Mickey boy has been ing at the International club in thia city .for some time, confining hie at tentions to work there. His appear ance tonight at Windsor will be hie first to give local fans a line-up on tthat he cau show. His looks, however, are with hlf He has the stocky build that looks as if it» owner would refuse to budge an inch before the most determined op position. He lias been working hard for this coming bout, as It evidently will mean ranch to him to cop It. u Graves is fairly well known. His victory over Bikora is the achieve ment that gives him most prominence locally. While Bikora will never make a champion himself he has tbe stuff to stop n lot of aspirants for the highest rounds on the pugilistic lad der. Thus If this Graves can defeat him. lie looks good. Joe Wallace, Hilly Rooks* protege, and Lew Glownoy, of Detroit, wit box the six-round semis. Both a•• clever young fellows and the beat should be good. Young Dutton aud Dick Arland, both of Detroit, will fi nish the opening amusement. PEDERSON TO TAKE ON GOTCH’S TRIAL HORSE - CHICAGO. Feb. 21.—The queetiqji of whether Jess Pedersen will have, the light to a meeting with Cham pion Frank Gotch, will be decided hero March 1, when he meets Yuf siff Mahmout. The managers of tty* grapplers today announced that thqr have signed articles accepting the Empire Athletic club s offer of a si . 000 guarantee for the bout at ttys Coliseum. If Pedersen defeats the Turk hue h;is Gotch * promise for a match. * 1 walker To Banquet Basketball«rt. v Foster Walker will banquet the bas ketball boys of the Frankiin-st. set tlement teams of this year and last u'. the Ste. Claire this evening, and ?'•*. Walker will tender them a party at the- Temple, Richard Jack son will preseut last year’s champion ship live with a loving cup, and Mt-G Mary Hurlbut will address them. There will he 17 In the party. The boys will gather at the Ste. Claire <» o’clock. ENGLISH STYLE OF ROWING WILL AGAIN BE INVESTIGATED. NUW HAVEN, Conn., Feb. 21.—The English style of row ing will again be investigated by the Yale authorities. Wil liam Averlil Harrlman, son of the late K. H. liar liman. wUL leave for England this week to study the methods of the British ctacks and report to Coach Rodgers. BualntM-llke rr|ai|«g. im fu** and no feathers. Tha plain, neat kind that look* right T*»*»»*. PHatlav Cos.. II John R.-st. Ph Main 14QI or City ttti. Page Nine