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Ail the New*— * WiiLr* % flattest Opinion* BUROFIO ALL-AMERICAN Fwesterners, wolverines Mfor Cup Has Picked Only |Bl)f Score Western Players I In Twenty-Four Years ■CHIGAN GETS NEARLY HALF OF THOSE PICKED Mon, Schultz, Benbrook and Wells Are Among Those Chosen During the 24 ymiu that All-Amerl a jlbotbfljl selodbkoig* have bt>en 4* by Walter Camp, the dean of Uritiii experts, only 10 western have bad the honor of being etd on the honorary oleven. )f this number four liavo played Cth Uatveralty of Michigan teams, pee with Chicago, two with Min- Mota, and one with Wisconsin. [Sehulta, Heaton, Wells and Den molt are the player* who have been laaee from Michigan; Herschberg- Ek Jtekeraall and Steffens, from Chi po; McGovern and Walker from jhatoof and Butler from Wiacou po Clarence Herschberger, one of hr greatest all-round player* who Mr played for Chicago, belong* the ■or of being the first western play- Mo ha selected. Herachie was ee- Bted for the position of fulback in MU This player was one of the Im In the early days of the Mid hy» and his punting and field goal phg, combined with brilliant of ■ahre and defensive playing, were ogaali a high caliber that his efforts U* rewarded by Camp. pDty Heston, one of the greatest ■pecks who ever donned the mole* Bt, was the second player from the igt to he honored. Any person who M »s (Ills player in action knows Hhs was entitled to it. If ewer a phrsa warrior was hard to tackle Mlsa was the man. He was fast, M ran in such a manner that his him nearly touched his chin. He Wji solid and weighed 190 pound*. * oould run the ends, hit the line, K dive off tackles with equal suo ha, and he had ao much drive bo pi bis efforts that wb&n he did hit opposition he generally went Mrard at least two yard*. Heston M placed os the eleven for two sue*. Mlvs years. Bfchsrsall was selected a* an end HpH» and waa the third player ||t this section to be chosen. In || and lUM Bckersall was awarded p unacterback position. He waa , pasn for three consecutive years. Hilt Is the longest time any west- | Mr has been so honored, nrfltsnnsny" Schultz, without doubt ■ best center ever developed in the mt, vji chosen for this position In iff. Schultz was a gut ton for work p his keen knowledge of the game file him a most valuable man. He mhid open center* on the defensive P It wee a common occurrence to Sbjrtm tackling on the wings- IV * Wm waa ootrunnlg him. Germany ■ tot hesitate to dive for him and Fmlrtirm missed his man. In going i* the field under punts he made any tackles as the ends, while a passing on the Intricate formation p iiwHlma. Matter Steffen w's m awarded the par of the quarterback position in ML This player was one of the 111 dodgers the game ha* produced* m bis squirming runs always were Nmtare of the games In which he MWfi. He used rare judgment In ■ selection of Ms plays, while his prlslfs of the game and his all pjigd ability made him a valuable ■a IMP two more players were hga from the west. Benbrook. of Eshtgan, and McGovern, of Mlnne- Kp, were the players whose prowess Bud not be overlooked, and they Era selected as guard and quarter- Mk, respectively. It Is doubtful if BjUard ever was developed in this ■Mon who was the equal of Ben fattk, and many believe him to be ■ peer of Truxtun Hare and Pudge ■fbtfingar. the famous eastern ■lids. The Wolverine waa a tower Fgfreagth <m the defense, where he Minted the example of Schultz by ■pteg on the wing and going down Kr pnnta. He was awarded the pttkra tor two successive years. M» one will dispute Johnny Me- Min’s right to a position on the ■American. This little player had Efibe qualifications of a stellar quar ■hack and his playing on many oc- Mbb* saved his team from defeat. Em Steffen. he knew football, and he mm how ft should be played. Asa Mgr he instilled fight Into hie men, ■tti hi* ability to run and dodco In make field goals, and his Kg and deadly tackling on the de mm. made him one of the most Hahfe players that has ever played W«w Orleans to Have Clown for Press Work f Now it I* the New Orleans which la signing a player i WOM bbcauae of his ability to '*«*•# **• fins than to win tfkpd he'a as funny on the lines JO Kick AJtrork or Orman? Hfechavfer And that's saying a who lives in Atlanta (km oxpet'ted to set aom« press gjfprt for the Pelt and also to BStt with the fans and adver mm, the team. "When l *»k»> Lon. “it waa with tli»* ■HgQlipilng I waa to have money every night on the road But told me that home, l have to 1 wish, we'd take :o|gifW|ipo. world tour a”; NEWS AND VIEWS OF SPORT Coombs I,ones Inch; Result of Illness John tkioroha. a star pitcher oi the Philadelphia American league olub. will be one-sixteenth of an Inch shorter In stature by of the lllnefttt that kept him out of the gain e aTT "WIT BPS Ron Ttitx fact was established when an X r«iv photograph of his spine was taken at tlm University of l*ennsylvauia. Coombs Is now sitting up a short time each day. and exigents soon to be taken to his farm in Maine. The doctors say he will gain strengtn rapidly, and that next year he will be as good as ever as a pitcher. for the okl Gold and Maroon Institu tion. Walker, the versatile Minnesota tackle, waa one of Camp's western selections in 1910. The Gopher had all the requirements of a forward, and it is doubtful if there was any thing he did not know about playing tackle position. H ewas a veritable ■tone wall on the defense, and an opposing team only tried to gain ground through him once. The man ner in which he stopped plays was pleasing to watch, and the assistance he gave his teammates on the offen-t sire was one of the features or hi* work. In the same year Wells, of Mlchi gan. was plaoed at end. This player earned the honor after three years of hard, consistent work. In which the brunt of the ground gaining fell on his shoulders. Although he played end, he was called back to take a back's position to make the necessary distance on a drive off either tackle. Hs was a finished player in hurling forward pases. and his ability to get out In the open to reoelve a pass made him one of the best men Yost has ever bad In this department. He was a strong defensive player, and seldom railed to mis* hi* inan. re gardless of the latter's interference. The last western man to be accord ed the honor was Butler, who played tackle on the Wisconsin eleven. Th*s player was of the Walker type, who mixed in every plsy. and had the hapy faculty of being at the right place at the proper time. He waa a tower of strength offensively and defensively. THE VTWIMm O. W. L. T. Pet. Harvard 9 » 0 0 I.O«M> Michigan Aggie* 7 7 0 < 10<>0 Carlisle * x 1 o .s•* Dartmouth 8 7 1 « .S7»» Michigan 7 « 1 n Yale •» r. 3 t *l4 Penn 8 5 2 1 .<i4 Princeton 8 6 3 l .-14 ARMY GETS LAST HARD WORKOUT — A Most of the Cripples Appear Quite Healthy Again and the Prospects Are Bright v 11 W’EST POINT. N. Y.. Nov. 25. Ths army eleven was scheduled for the last hard workout of the week to day. in preparation for the Navy game Saturday at New York. The regulars were to be sent against the scrub*, the latter using Navy formations. Benedict, Huston and Hodgson were out for practice yesterday, and prob ably will be able to atart Saturday. Meacham I* still uncertain, but, with the other three cripples back, pros pect* are much brighter. 1,500 CORNELL STUDENTS WILL SEE PENNSY GAME ITHACA, N. Y.. Nov. 25.—Fifteen hundred Cornell students prepared to day to leave for Philadelphia, where the Ithacans will clash with Pennsyl vania Thursday in their annua? Tb&nkglvlng game. The squad was given a great sendoff yesterday when it left for Atlantic City, to put on the finishing touche* for the htg game. Soo Team Has Some Sprinters That Central Will HaveHo Watch Well UNLESS the Charlevoix team hasn’t a faat runner or a good tackier In the lot, there are a bunch of apeed Rault Bte. Marie broken-field run nera that Detroit Central wilt have to watch Thursday if It wishes to keep Us own goal line inviolate during the game. In the first half of the game with Charlevoix Saturday, the SoO team made six touchdowns. Five of them were made after long dashes, no two by any one man. Sharpe ran #0 yards for the first; Laundy, 70 for the sec ond; Rye. 30 for the fourth; Parsllle, 20 sos the fifth, and McCarthy. 42 for the sixth. Soo High School Football Team Which Meets Detroit Central for State Championship Thanksgiving Dag 11 mil M I ■ | m^m M ■■ mmVMM- MV &. ufe*?m m *;W.* ■ :*&'->£ vfe&Vy^SHE:*£l- •j \ %MM WWRS&£m<m*'' |- r 3 1 I, ■ dPßw*jpCv >1? Frem Left I# Night: Weston. Left Half; Nall, Night End; Everett, Night Guard; Campbell, Substitute; McCarthy, Night Half: Rye, Fullback; Parsille, Rift* Tackle; Moffat, Substitute; Monroe. Center; Captain McLaughlin; Left Guard; Sharpe, Quarterback; A. Goetz. Substitute; F. Goetz, Left Tackle. THE DETROIT TIMES. TUESDAY. NOVEMBER 15. IRIS. Players Whose Names Never Appear in the Box Score are Often Most Valuable to Their Teams Major league club** are fa*t adding an assistant-to-the-manager; this* isD t generally known, but It Is a fact. “Kid" Gleason, one-tiiue Oriole star, with Jennings. Keeler. Hrodie et a!.; created the role for the White s<ox. Like the an*islant bi*» ot these more or lens United State*. Gleason doesn't get into ilie lies* 1-1 me* often and never *ees hi* name In the box boore. hot he is the garter which prv vented the. While Sux slipping down around the hocks of the American lea misc thli year A year ago President Coim»ke> tie rided Manager Callahan axis uot driv ing hi* player* enough. He wanted more speed, *o he hit wj>on Gleason a* an ideal two-fisted man to speed 'em up. Gleason started with the training season. last spring, with order* to "go the route" with u string of recruits He went. His squad turned in at night, tired out. but “Kid' showed re sults. On une count aloue he earned his salary Gleason aJojie la responsible for “Tex’* Russell, and Russell is the best looking left-hander the American lea gue ha* had in years. Callahan, in charge of the first •quad, tslegraphsd Gleason, barn storming back to Chicago from the coast, to release Russell, and the “Kid" wired back that Russell was a regular pitcher aud asked if Cal plan ned to dispose of Comiakey’s grand stand. also. Russell stuck—and succeeded Kd Walsh as a White Box idol. Buck Weaver, oue of the best ground-coverer* in baseball, owes his place to Gleason. Buck was with Gleason’s nonde script*. last spring, and the taskmas ter saw the boy's latent ability. He drove Buck to the limit, and when the season opened Weaver, from an Indifferent, wobbly player, had become a bundle of confidence, a live wire and a great inflelder in embryo. Weaver was literally bunkoed into the belief that he was the brightest *tar on the team. Gleason convinced him he was a natural-born batsman. Rivers Will Have “Ringside Chorus '’ When the Fans “Boo” Him in Thanksgiving Day Bout With Cross LOS ANGELES, Nov. 25.—When the i curtain rise* here on the next fistic encounter —a 20-rouud affair —a slen der, careworn Hebrew toothpuller from New York will be discovered mixing with a timorous, nut-colored Callfornlan-Mexican. It will be on Thanksgiving day. The men are Leach Cross aud Joe Rivera. Both are nos- in training. And in some secret place the Ring aide chorus—a bunch of leather-lunged males organized by Tom McCarey and Joe Levy, Rivers’ manager, to counter ! act the awful “booing" the nut-colored ! scrapper espects from Los Angeles j fans because they think he showed the white feather in the pinch—is al.so m training under the competent instruc tion of a yell leader. It Is said that River* l* more afraid of the *%ooe«" in his home town than he Is of the dentist. Rivers went into hiding after his fight with Ritchie. This deepened the fane' suspicion that he had ahorwn the white feather tc Ritchie. When they hoot and jeer when he climbs through the ropes for the Cross contest that will be the cue for the Ringside chorus to start to ehe#r. The betting on the booing is expected to be as Hvely as on the main event. Barring the possible effect of the booing, dopester* are inclined to give the Mexican a shade over the New Yorker. There are two kinds of fighters who can beat River*: The fighter with brilliant footwork. The fighter who can discourage h>m. Is Leach Cross this kind of a fight er? _ BATTLING LEVINSKY IS BELIEVED TO BE COMER NBW YORK, Nov. 25.—Belief tha* Battling Levlnsky, a light heavy, 1* a coiner, was strengthened here todav by the ease with which he disposed of Yank Gilbert, formerly of Philadel phia. last night, before the Olympic A. C. Levlnsky toyed with Gilbert and the bout was stopped in the fourth round. Levlnsky plan* to challenge Gun boat Smith. He ha* won hi* last 14 starts, most of them by knockouts. aud Weaver started in to hit —an al moat unheard-of thing for a White Sox player. At the eud of the reason Weaver led the team with the stick lie still makes mistakes. but now he tights back and Ih as cocky a* a l>o> after hi* first shave. Confidence i< his middle name—and he ow*<s it ull to Gleason. ,Vt the nmrning practice (Reason —w \ sJ /> \ 4..... V was botos. His stubby but kept the infield jumping on the high gear and if the ball wasn’t fielded to the criti cal "Kid’*’ liking that fielder was kepf busy until letter perfect. & \ ■la . HH PITP WANTS GAMES WITH PRINCETON AND PENNSY PITTSHUROH. Nov. 25.—Inspired by Its success in this season's games with Carlisle and Cornell, Pitt univer sity eleven was trying today to get gamevi with Princeton and University of Pennsylvania next year. Coach Duff, In a semi-official capacity, visit ed Princeton, last week, and it was stated today, returned greatly encour aged. BRICKLEY LEADS IN THE HARVARD SCORING Cambridge. Ma**., Nov. 25.—cm 225 points scored by Harvard’s foot ball team this year, Brlckley acored 81. making eight touchdowns and 11 field goals. Mahan scored 27 points, Hardwick 21. . .. » 35H ,T Kid" Gleason, the White Sox Assistant Manager. Gleason divides the coaching with I iiahan. He lm» a voice like a I idler and barks incessantly at the ’ iposition. Between innings he la tc; sparing with criticism. If a player mils a boner" he hears of it when Ii feet from the coop and his general } -orthlessness is dinned into him until .ie end of the inning brings relief. They don’t like the "Kid’s" rasping, although realizing it is for their fcood. He 1* master of baseball sarcasm and no player tries to swap compliments with him more than once. But Gleason is human —he couldn’t tpeed tvp Ping Ilodie A good assistant manager will nev *r receive the award of the Chalmers commission, but he is as valuable a* any man on the team. Joe Rivers or the left and Leach Cross on the right, who will fight 20 rounds in Los Angeles or Thanksgiving day. > I Kilbane Bare Only Ritchie and Crow- Johnny Kilbane. featherweight champion, announces that he will l4ir only Chanipicb Willie Ritchie and Cross in his campaign among the lightweights of tin country. He is willing to takr* a chain-* on all but these two differs among the class Just above him In weight. POLO GROUNDS IS NOW A GRIDIRON Ticket* Are Being Scalped at SSO Per Pair for Saturday's . Rig Game NEW YORK. Nov. 25.—The Giant fatta wouldn't roopgulie the Polo grounds today. All vembluuco of a baseball diamond has been removed. Instead, a gridiron* looms up on the held that was the battlefield of a world series struggle just a month acc*. One or the COST JKMRI ft at homo" plate, the other In center field. Ten thousand temporary seats have been added for the Army-Navy game Sat urday. Two seats today sold for SSO. The average price was S2O for regular $3 ticket*. NAVY PLANS TO RUSH ARMY LINE Heavy Backfield is Being Pre pared—Strenuous Work is Now All Over ANNAPOLIS, Md..* Nov. 25t>— Navy crutches plan to itte a rushing attack with a heavy backfield in the Army game Saturday. That whs made cer tain today when the coaches an nouned that Palling will replace Leon ard at right halfback, because of his greater weight. Merman Oleott. the old Yale guard, and Lieut. H. C. Alustln, a former Navy gtar. joined the 'coaches today and gave their help in whipping the team into shape. Scrimmage work Is about over, at- coaches believe the men are on edge and more work may do more harm than good. SAMMY TROT* AN I) YANKEE SCHWARTZ BOX FAST DRAW CINCINNATI. Nov. 25.—Sammy Trot, coiumbus Ttghtwcigrtr. ancLTATi kee Schwartz, of this city, last night staged the best lb-round lightweight battle ever seen here. It was a draw decision. From the first gong until the last it was real old-fashioned vswut ft «t. Imperially on losing Dm?. The San Francisco club of the Pa* i lie Coast league Iras decided to I uild the atand* In its new* park of wood instead of con? ret*-, it being argued that n concrete structure would he «-old and damp In the Sun Francisco climate. Tha new park site measures .*■<>() by 550 feet. The grandstand to he erected will s.-at 6.000 and the bleachers 12.©n0 more. The plana cell for a stand to which an upper deck ran he added when needed and tht» will aeat 3,000 more. An Interesting announcement la that there will he no "1 oose cage” and intoxicants will not be aoid at the new park. How Old is Ann? Has Nothing on This Princeton-Yale Score Puzzle THE secret of what is making Frank Hurst thin is out. Here it is: The popular Detroit referee and football expert was asked to de cide the following question: “Four of ub made a pool of guesses as to the nearest score of the Yale- Princeton football game. The score was 3-3. Which of the following was nearest?” * Princeton Yale 0 0 3 •> 7 3 0 3 It was too much for Hurst. He put it up to a group of friends. “Speaking judicially,” said one, “the fellow who said 0-0 wins. His guess was that the teams would be eveniny .matched, and they were." “Not much," said another. “The pool should be split between the men who guessed 0-3 and 3 -6. They were only 8 out of the road. The fellow who guessed 0-0 vat 3 off on Princeton and 3 off on Yale, or altogether 6 out of the road." Everybody asked had a different opinion, so finally he wrote: “It would take a philosopher to write the entire situation out. At first glance I should say that 0-0 was nearest to the final outcome. It depends whether you figure these things out numerically or in the spirit of the game of football. The man who bet that Princeton and would play an 0-0 game would win only in the respect that it was a tie game. He bet that Yale and Princeton would neither one ofthem score, and as p matter of fact each one of them scored three points. “The one who bet Princeton would win by three points over Yale was right as to the Princeton end of the score; he bet that Yale would not score, but Yale did score three points. “The man who bet that the score would be 7 to 3 is lour points out of the way on the Princeton side, and he is easily the loser. The man who bet Princeton would not score and Yale would score three points, was half right. “If you can reason this out and arrive at any conclusion you can do bet ter than I can, but it seems to me that the man who bets 7 to 3 had better go Out and buy the other_three men AWKRIC'AM I.KAUIK CLUB PIRIHIK. Game* D I’. TANARUS, P. P R PO. A. R. p.-t. Philadelphia 153 Ift4 1 14 4,»>62 1,966 212 .964 s . 155 124 0 22 4.14 H J. 136 .105 .965 Cleveland 155 122 0 14 4.15 ft 2,ft4>7 246 .963 ChlrSKu 152 I<>6 ft 19 4,0*2 2.077 250 .961 Boston ' >sl 74 0 24 4. 01i0 1,660 243 .961 Wimhintrton 155 120 1 24 4.159 2,076 262 .960 Sew York .... 153 • 97 0 tl 1.011 2.0?f 294 .954 i >.-t rott ...1 153 107 0 17 4,077 2,172 300 .154 OFFICIAL. TlfiF.R FIKLDI.NCi RKC-< ORD*. FI KMT BASKMF.N Jlank.Player. Games. I’.O. A. E. Pcr> 5 Gat nor 103 1116 ..ft 14 .990 4 I'l Klow 17 179 J 2 .- 3* 10 Tutweller ..1* 140 19 - 9^7 16 Pil.p 1" *0 ♦ 2 9.7 1H Crawford .. 13 15*. . 6 .964 SECOND BANH.MRN*. Rank. Player Games. P.D. A. K. Pet it; l 15 1-» 3-i * , 5 vitt 77 161 234 16 9bo 11 Bauman ... 4* 97 134 14 9-3 17 la Udell ..62 43 72 11 906 THIRD BAAEMEN. Rank. Player Gamea.l\i». A. . ‘'•J SIIORTSTDPH Rank.Plaier Oum« * l\D. A E »*«4- ♦, Rush 331 f,, > •'* «U’TFIKMIEHH. Rank Player. Gaines. )\U A R I'. 1 4 MlKh 10J « - J” 17 Crawford .ID 201 14 I 21 Cold, }2l 262 22 16 9 j ,;:i \ each 139 -* 1 -16 -I 'J* CATCHER*. Rank Player Games.PO. A. K '*«« 1 Rondeau .. 14 JJ 1 , 1* St ana w«* ... •• **! ? »*.j» 23 McKee . .. 61 217 *4 *i » ? 2ft PlTfll Hit*. Rank. Player Onnres.P.D. • E |, ‘* t 4 M Hall ... 26 . . * l 15 Muirin 16 S 41 - 939 I7 Dubwr ... 30 16 I'* 7 ? 16 Willett ... 39 1 9.1 >.»4 21 I-n ke 2« 4 «9 I J 49 :t6 House .... 16 ft 34 2 44 Dauss *3 * **4 6 .I*4 mm EdUed by.~ Ralph *•- Yonker SOOITES RAISE $l5O TO SEND TEAM HERE V Purchase New Equipment, So That WaYrior* WiU Be Prop erly Clad Turkey Day SAULT STE. MARIE. Mich., Nov. 25. —A popular subscription is being uiude here at the pstotnee, newsifttper offices and drug stores tor the high school football team which leaves to night for L)**troit. where It meets De troit t’entral for the chaiupiouahlp of the state, Thanksgiving Day. Glad to get a rUunce to meet the recognized champions ot the lower peninsula, the local enthusiasts have started out to raise $l5O, which will be needed after the l>etrolt authori ties pay the local leant Its guarantee. Much new equipment Is being pur chased for the men, for thejf want to be in tiptop condition for thV Turkey Day bottle. TOMMY O’TOOLE PUTS SAN FRANCISCAN OUT WILKBSBARRE. Pa.. Nov. 25. Eddie Lenny, of San Francisco, lasted only part of the second round in his lout with Tommy O’Toole here last night. Lenny had the llrst round on I mints. In the second O’Toole landed on Lenny s chin w ith a right Jolt that dazed the San Franciscan. O’Toole followed with a right to the Jaw, and Lenny went to the mat. He got up In a hurry, but was floored again for the count of nine, when he arose the third time. The young Pole then drove Lenny through the ropes with another right, where he lay until carried to his corner. BACON WILL TRY FOR ROLLER SPEED RECORD Lovers of sp«*d roller skating will have their opportunity to see a per formance of this kiml that bids fair to ellipse anythin?; heretofore seen I*. Detroit 'when Frank Huron steps to tl.e mark at the I’nl t-c roller rink. Tues <la> everting. In an attempt to estab lish anew one-mile record for a 13- lap track. 'Che present record of 2:4. . held by Hurley Pa\ bison. Is la Immediate r * ang* r of bring shattered in the ! opinion of Walter Osmun. one of tho i rat authorities or roller skating In t tie country. According to Osmun i* u-on has *>ren training faithfully To I this attempt and the world champion ! “hip races to be held in March, unde** the watchful eye of Manager San* ! Harrison, and in trial heats has shown i remarkable performances. He lias struck his stride earlv In the seas *r. j end has mastered the knack of tak'ti!, tho turns full speed and the little speed marvel is faster than ever before. Joe W nod la (iollef. Joe Wood, the ernokr ball expert of the Red Sox, Is said to have developed Into such a good golf player that he ; is the talk of the links wherever he appears and he has promised to tak-- part in * tournament at Hoston later. Ansninrrmrat ('mate Karl*. It came ralher early this was announced Nov. 4 that Hans Wag ner had retired and because of his | business Interests and advancing nge, j would not play bail again. WILLARD WANTS TO BE REINSTATED AT NEW YORK BUFFALO. N. Y„ Nov. 26.—Tom Jones, manager of Jess Willard, was here today to confer with Charles Murray, regarding the raising of Wil lard's indefinite suspension by the State Athletic commission. Willard failed to box One-Round Davis at Mur ray'd club last January. If a satisfactory agreement Is reached. Willard will apply for rein statement In time to meet Carl Mor tis. Dec. 2. at Madison Square garden. New York city. BOXING At Windsor R. 6 A. Club, Lisitid 4VIMI«OH, OAT. IVHarwlar Kve«l»s, Not. Mtb, ISIS. 4—Good Bouts—4 6 rounAn at 122 a«an<U. Tommy llttiMow, %. f. Harry ahltr. Nark. Pa, Flaal— * roaada af 142 paaaOo./ I’arkr.t NlrFarlaail tbl'-asa, 111. Marry Htrarr. Kaaaaa C ltY. Ms, Ticket* at Ml!? Raak«\ WclatMk * ai Day's aa4 haati Cigar Store.