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PHDNEER AND DEMOCRAT.
VOL. 111.
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Governor’a Message ]
nt Hutton to I’ll mssassom' mom-s or‘
rm: nrnws'a BAY COIPANY, asn run:
low!” AGI‘CI'LTVIAL 00., I.\' ANSWER TI) A]
.ISOLWO.‘ 0' INQI‘IIY 0' T"! COUNCIL
or "summon neuron.
To ma Box. Sn" Canal, I
Preaideat filth Council olWa-hlngton Tcrritnry: ‘
Sun—ln anawer to a rowlution of thei
Honorable Council. of thia date, request
ing the " Governor to communicate to the
Council any information he may have in
his posscuion, in regard to the mnnm-r in ‘
which Col-grout arrived at the estimated
amount of three hundred thousand dollars,
an the value of the legal claim: and rights
of the Hutla'on’a Bay and Pugot‘Snund A 33
ricnltural Companies. If my utimnte hu‘
been made by the Govornor, or any person.
under hie direction, will hle excellency.
plenae to communicetethe eatimated value
of each company. and the particular kind
of pvoperty, and value of the right of
trade. and the'right o! pone-don: and all
other leper-ted estimate! that may have
been made. and whether a rQort ha been
made lowed-grey or any 0! the Depart
ment, and If the flock of cattle and aheep
were induhed la the eetimate," I have the
honor reapectlhlly to atnte :
Congre- not having taken any actlon in
regard to the nudaou'a Bay and Puget
Sound Apicaltnral Companiel, I aeantae
that the' [solution has reference to the
action otthe Senate, which, in un unend
luent to the Civil and Diplomatic Appro
priation Bill, propoeed to buy out the
olefin of time Companies and of British
I‘M and!" thin purpose proposed the
agolntmt of a Commiaaioner to examine
in 'a'ud.afladimte all claim, and the ap
propl'ihtiou of #800,000; By reference to
the puhliahed (proceeding- of Congrcu, it
will appean that thin propoeition run in-
Mw'tnm the Senate by the Committee
“Will, anfl' on the mommdatloa o!
fliea;,'m. li. Harry, the Secretary at
lii“. ', '
fl: report In nude hy me, under the ln— '
W W the Secretary of State, to the I
wipepntmeut,‘ u to the legal rights 1
_ claim of thew Companies; end an“
ogtflite wu also made of the vdue of the 1
m, form. and property of the Puget :
mggrlcnltnnl Company, Ind Ihe poo- I
. ' rights of the Had-en’s Buy Com- l
M. Ihe followlng ground: were ukeml
,h” (dare-e 0 to the, Hudlon‘l Buy Com-
M: let—net their pontoon rights 1
Vere I I!!! died right of po-eulon.
l—ghnt these rights simply sue them <
A rltht to their building! and encloeum. ‘
Sid—#ls“ than right. mood with the ex
ph-Jta of their Chum, 1n1863. 4a._ j
That It sue them no right to trade with
' Indiiu. _‘ In reference to the Puget Sound
“Mr-1 Company, the following vlewa
were Manual: lit—That the 4th Irticle
0f the My fled'ged the filth of the Gov
ernment to.cbnflrm to them their farm,
(pill. in other phoperty. Std—That they
can“ limp]! chin) Ind hue conflrmcdr to
think, their buildings nnd‘euelosnrcs, nnd
a. fighter wood Ind postnrege, in com
m with utllen on nnclnhned lands, which
rk’ht of common could be set of by Gor
wnt. Rel—That when confirmed in
'_ ‘flnu, lends, end other property,
thyhofl on property, that confirmed, ln
{Wt-.1" Melton to bath Companies, it
me Mandel um they had not up the
lat extnugnnt pretensions, the effect of
”Ht, if fielded Myrould be not to Irene
'8 thi‘lnrerelgnty of the country from
Mt mm to me United Stun, M 1
M Greet-Britain to the Hudson’s Bay
5." Pia“ send Agricultural Companies.‘
3} l 59pm ll was recommended thntl
‘oLYMP'I'A; WASHlNGTb’N‘fifiTrfi“fo 186T§1§fifi€ bXQYILL“f;&FfiXRYM2T), 3E5? m"
‘Congresn should appoint. . Commissioneh
‘or Commissioner-5 to iuw-stigutc und mljmli-‘
‘cate upon the whole mum-r, and the estiu
innu- of $300,000 I'll given as n maxi-x
lnun-i. which would be certain to cxtinguishl
‘ull [Wilde claims. .\'o uluuion, properly!
"making, was made by me, but simply ml
"estimate which it would he info for Cour
lgn-u to net upon in.pro\'idiug for the Idjll
ldicalion of the cluiml; um] it won urged!
Him Iho valuation must he made by Com
,miuioners, charged with the special duty.
The right of trade was not considered
I proper subject to estimate upon, such‘
right. nor hving been recognized in the]
treaty; nor was the nine of the sheep and}
cattle inchde in the estimate. ‘
' I hue the honor to be, J
‘ i
‘ Very respectfully, I
‘ Your moat obedient,
IIAAC I. Sun". I
| About the Hudson Buy Co., kc.‘
\ We inrltc the attention of our rendors‘
to the following very interesting extructl
of e letter [rpm the Washington corms-j
pendent of tho b'uu Francisco llrruld, of
Dev. 8, Ind ask for it thnt consideration‘
which the importance of the suhjcct treat
ed of lojnslly demands: I
“Since my Inst, some very interesting
questions of much interest to the inhnhit
nuts of our l'neific borders, have been ngi
tetetl in diplomatic circlee, elthouyh no
‘inkling of them has yet leaked out through
the Atlantic prone. As it. is not intprolnp‘
ble thnt llll‘Sl' questions, nnd the tunes in“
Vol'ed, will become of imminent pl'neticnl
illlllortilllt'l‘ very soon, it will be worth your
while to give them some attention, and to
Inutieipete, tie for u may he, the events of
lthe future. The first of these questions
:nrieee under the first ertiele of the treaty,
‘of 1846 with Great Britain, fixing thei
boundary of the territory of the United;
iStetee woes of the Rocky monntnine. ’l’hiel
ertiele providee that the bonndery shell runl
west on the forty-ninth parallel "to the
Min of Me chatted which eoparetee the}
continent from Vancouver's leleud, nndi
thence eontherly through the middle of the‘
in“ channel, end of l-‘nu'e Strniu, to the
‘Pncillc Oeeen." A serious eontrovcrey
hee nrleen between the United States end
iGreet Britain with regent to the proper
interpretation of thie chm. But here. let
me remerk, thet e greater blunder wee
never committed by any Government then
by ours, in cementing to give up Yencon-i
ver'e Inland to amt Britein. She neeerl
hed eny right to it, and in reteining it, ro-i
telned ell he Nelly cend eaythiea; ehontl
in the region. She only denim! en eeeilyl
fortified «tend-point on our north-watt
count, from vhteh ehe eonkt threeten us:
end ehe eeonred it. Look over the worhM
and we find it the nndevieting, never for-i
gotten policy at , to get. encl- po-i
tnitione for each per in every qnerter.‘
"Jr in pnrenence 0 thin lley, thie deter-i
minntion to here in her made them‘
to hector ell the world. on oeeeeion—thet
{the hold: Gilreltnr,’ from which to bully
S in, end threeten the commerce of the
hirditermenn,—Corth, to hector Greece,
g—Melte, to hector Sieily,—Helifex, to
t, hector In on the northoeetr—end Jemnlca,
to hector on an the eneth end enntheeet,-
while for n'miler perfoeee ehe eeehe to eet
e foothold in Centre ,Alneriee, where she
mev control our iethmlen communication
with Cellfornlo, while ehe lntrignee agelnet
onr ecqnleltlon of Cnbn, the Sandwlch
lelende, n pert of Dominica, or eny other
[rt on the hnhitehle globe, where our ln
nenoe end energy may coenterect 'her
‘eehernee. It wee e blunder to Ineke e
‘trent'y pennlttlng her to carry out Ithle
‘ennmng stollcy In our north-west ; end the
‘hlnnder I moat keenly epprecletaed by the
preeent edmlnietretion.
But to return to the let article of the
treaty: When in the “chnnnell” t'l‘he‘
welerl lying between the continent llld‘
Veneonver’l lei-ed to n greet Sound, full
‘of blends. How then ere we to deter»
‘mine where " the middle of the chnnnel"
in Y A query of consider-hie importenee,
u the tilleto them little Islets-come
of them being quite importen epends
upon itl solution. Are we to go to vvork
and mum the depth of the Sound and
leleet the deepeet place no the “ channel 2'"
Article 4th efipnlntee that “ the fume,
lend- end other progeny of every descrip
tion, belonging to t c Puget Sound Agri
cnltnnl Company, on the north ride of the
Columbia river, shell be eonlnned to the
said Company ;" but if the Government of
the United State- chm, it hne the right
to take po-eeion of the whole or porter
this property, nt n proper velmtiou, to be
agreed upon between the parties. The
qnl‘stiou arisen here, “ How much properly
bu the Puget Sound Company ” Sup
poee the British Government given them
paper grunt! covering nineteen-twentieth;
oi the land in oregon,-vve pny for Ihe|
whole 0! this ere we clnim ' n ?-—-
Englnnd no claims, but nment‘
‘ rein-en to recognize the ()0. title.‘
except to lend: nctnnlly cove 111 I"?
promote. It is not dimcnlt to see that}
are is n seriou- boue of contention. Ourl
Government deem it import-at to get I'idi
ot‘ t Sound Company, Ind in de-i
odo it. If the ndministretion‘
lcnnin courage to mintnin it: ovvu cow
'lvictions. it. will insist, on tho Company‘s ‘
levncnntiun on reuonahle Ind equitable‘
terms. The people of Washington 'l‘errito— 3
lry will aid materially in forming.- I settle-’1
‘ uncut of this question, by squatting any ‘
lwhcre they choose an the lands cluimul by‘l
lthr Puget Sound Company. and which‘
mre not fenced. H they will do th'm, they ‘
Huny rely confidently upon the support and
protection of our Government. 1 spunk
Endt'iffdly'in Inyiupz‘this. . M
’ The Ruminn Government, it is welll
known, formerly had at munufucturing colo-I
iny nt Bodega liny, on the coast north of
Lien Frunt‘iu'o, under I grant from Mexico:
nud before giving in thin settlement—not
‘long indeed before the discovery of gold in
California—«he sent Admiral \Vrnngel out
lto examine the country and report upon its,
‘rnlue, and the propriety of maintaining the
colony. He reported the country as of no
lrnlnv, and the settlement not worth Innin
;tuining, The consequence trns thnt the
illusuiun Government sold out for a min:
to privnto purties, only A year before the
gold discovery. This grant was on the
count, directly in front of what has proved
to he the riehentgold dintrirt of your State;
and nlthough its limits north and south
'wrre lixcd hy the terms of the grunt. there
il'ttl no restriction u to it: extent inwnrd.
‘lf ltumia hnd muintninod her POShcpsloh
until after the discovery of gold in Califor
iniu, nnd then, under the loose tarmu of her
lgrunt, had uttempted to monopolize the
‘entiro gold region of Northern California,
iiu it to be anppoaod that the United States
would have submitted to such an interpre
ltution? Surely not. And yet it is under
in very similar pretext that Great Britain,
lthrough the agency of the Puget Sound
Company. seeks to rub on of the best part
iof what is now known us Wnehington Ter
lritory.
‘ Art. 2d of the trenty concedes the unri
lgntiou of the great. northern branch of the
H'ohnuhin rirer,—fron| the point where it
[intersects the 49th parallel down to the
'mnin stream nnd so “ to the ocean—to the ‘
Hudson's Buy, and to nll British subjects
trading with the name." An important
controversy arises under this nrtiele. How
far may the Hndlon's Boy Compnny ule
tho Coinmhin river for put-pou- of lrnde]
—for that trule no they entitled“ the
privilege: of thin article? Hey the coin
pony bring in, under the citod stipulation, i
goods to uetl In Oregon in competition with
Unlted States men'hum end trederl L—
'nm is main“ one Neviptiou end Reve
nue In". Doee the etlpnletion nuthoriu 1
than totnde'tth or Indian! This in
egohet ont- Indinn Intercom love. Gen I
my Englishmen the: chosen fio‘? to the l
(Humble river with ht: van l en with .
dutieble goodl, (dudehie beyond qua-don
it in 111 Alli-Tile“ hottgrnyéyud‘ all;
ato I e udtoun mpnny,
l{lifii‘they tell them egnln t’o othc path? J
The propoeitton il ehenrd, beanie no on ‘
interpretation in to make the treaty open
the river to gourd Europe“ tnde. And ‘
yet on «ch 9! these pm, the British
Government ind-ts upon the eouetntetlon 1
mod regurdleu of the right. of the United
Sumomlotmmonseoeo. ,_ > ‘
Is it not intolerable thst is great bulgn
corpontion, having golitlcal pounchould
exltt In the United tutu? The Hut In
‘dia CouTnny is nominally the Sovereign of
the wlloeof lndlo, vvlt n papal-(ion of
150,000,000, and we so ltilo horrible
outrage and opprenion tiers. 'l‘llb Hud
son's Buy Cornpnnyh nomlnolly tho Bov
erclgn in the largut part of Britt-Ir North
Americs, and in 11l thgt territory Grout
Britain has the impmlcnco to III: on to w
cog-nine the Hudson’s Hly Company II 111
independent (rower. whom-it ruin her pur
pone no to o. Thst is to any. we can
make no treaty with Great Bfltnln In ro
lntio-I to British Dragon, beams. on we no
told, all the subject mutter of the proptizd
treaties is the concern of tho Hudson’s y
Company 1 This Compony is o nerd coo
trivnnco on the port of Great Britoin by
which she may oncnoch upon us. while
seeming not to be encroaching; and when
ever there Ihnll boon absolute necessity
for so doing. Englnnd will disavow the on
croachnont, and toll on to look for rodrcu
to the intonninnhle Hudson's Bay Com
pony. The ndminlntrntion is unions to
get rid of this monopoly sltogether. nod
Americln settlers in t o Hudson’s Boy
Company’s inots any help the negotls
tions by rum; calming oor lndlnn Inter
course laws, And novigstion Inn, nnd by
every other possible mour- of practically
nslng up the adv-auger: fnldulontly u
sumod by the company named, under the
"my.
Thero in Itill unother point in connection
with thin dsect, of vital importance to
Celifornll. on know that Anetrolin he!
been ‘ need up’ an a. peml colony by the
discovery of gold, end thnt the Bridal:
Government quite recently rude II! n
tempt to Wish npenel colony at the
Cape of 660 d Hope instead, which we!
defeated by the nrmed interference end do
terrnlned resistance of the people of the
Cupe. England is consequently in it great
lilenl of trouble to find I new Annulm—
ln this extremity her attention is turned
tow-rd: America; and I learn the feet
from three dli'rerent warren, ell concurring
in the mtoment that the British Govern
ment watewxhflumh’eg Vancouver’s [Aland
la pm! a ny. She mey not carry out
this design, but you may be sure it.. il in
‘coetcmpletiol. Such an establishment of
{course would be equivalent to the Ihipulent
in! her rogue to Celifonie, Oregon Illd
iWaebinglon Territories—a very economi-
: ml mode of disposing of them. I have
‘ dealt somewhat at length on this subject,
‘ because it is new in its present relntiotls,‘
und is sul‘jt'ct of present active negotia
'tinns, in nhieh Great Britain does not
‘show a very mniuhlc disposition.” ‘
~ —-—. <7~ ‘
WASHINGTON LBGISLJTI’IEn-SEI‘MD SESSIflKH
1,. 1x COUNCIL. ‘
’l‘nt'nsmv, Jan. 11, 1855.
Mr. Bigelnw, from committee on wnyn
nnd menus, reported buck C. B. l'l——pro
riding for a blut'k for the Washington
Monument—and reenmmended its passage.
Mr. Patterson, from committee on conn
tiell, reportml buck C. 11. 12—8 Ipointintr
officers for the county of Welln-wnlln—with
amendment, and recommended its usage.
Message from Home nnnouuclltg pas
sage of 11. 11. 20—nn net to amend an act
entitled un net to lm’nle n territorinl road
from Steilnwmn to Seattle; No. 2l—un
act to locnte a territorial roadfrom l’ncitic
(‘ity to the Nnrcoth landing on Shonlwatcr
Bay ; 11. 11. Sl—an net to locate a terri
torinl roml from Vnneouvcr to Cowlitz
Farms; 11. J. ‘2s—an net for the preserva
tion of oylters in Shoelwnter Buy; H. B.
iii—an net to amend nn ni~t entitled an act.
to organize the manly ol‘ Pierce; Roll. 33
—an not to incorporate the Agricultural
Society of \Vnshingtun Territory; 11. B.
40—“ act. to iomte the county wet. of
iSunminh county; H. B. til—an act. to lo
‘cuto the county seat of Win-loom county ;
Qll. J. R. B—minute to increasing the uln
ry of the Collector of tho diatriet of Puget
Sound.
l C. 11. 12 coming up in order, nlncntlment‘
‘rrportcd by committee adopted, and Isid‘
Ibill ordered to thinl reading.
‘ On motion of Mr. Ylntis, House reso
lution relative to increua of galaxy of the
Collector of district. of Puget Sound called
up and rend 6m time ; rulel squL-mlcd
'nnd resolution: read I second time.
Mr. Bigclow moved to amend by striking
out clanu mnking Operation of law retro
‘lpflt'tivé, and advocated his amendment at
‘IOI‘N! length.
The amendment Iran opposed byliun.
Yanlis, .Milen. Terry and [‘oo, w‘n the
vote was taken by ayes And not; Amend
msut Io". by fo‘llovinfi vow:
VflXyi-FB‘igolow, findanm-non, Md
Slfigkler—rfi __ _ H , ,
"kw—mm Poe, Torry, Ynth, md‘
madam—4. ‘__ _ A 7 ‘ \
1 On motion of Mr. Terry, rule: further
mus wndcd to read resolution third ti...
bu the passage of the resolmion, the
.yes and noel were called. Resolution
posed by following vote:
Ayu—Bigelow, Miles, Poe, Blrlcltkr,
Terry Ind Ynntis—G.
Non-Hum Paterson, President—B.
Business of Home taken up In order
Ind Home bills Imported this morning ur
mlly read 3 third time.
On motion of Mr. Terry, rules suspend
od und H. B. 80—“ act to amend an not
no can!” the county of Pierce—«w! n
secor timorm. » A _ A _
Mr. Bigdow'moved that file bill be re
ferred to committee on counties, within
mucciom to upon how Ihoplopoood boun
dary lines would Inwrfm with the lines of
other counties. A _ __ __ _ _ _
""6: EELS-Imm tho' dmrm Judges
of thhgton Territory—came up in or
detrortimd mdit's: . . .
Mr. Poe moved to amend by Itriklug
outeo much of hill u refers to Hon. 0.
B. Mel’nddeu. He argued tlut thut judge
VIII ulready unified, and the bill did not
propose to clunge it. Amendment lolt.
Pending the question—shun the bill be
ordered to A third reading t—Mr. Miler
took the floor and argued ntrenuonsly for
the uselgnment of chief justice Lender to
this district. By courtesy be u- entitled
to it, being the oldut judge ld not and
date of commission. Leyla county did not
wish judge Chenevelh. The new Ip
pointed bur of Thurston count mi t, by
their fullome resolution, wing him hu’e,
but hi: constituents deuired judge Lender,
end he would vote for Inch change.
‘ Mr. Yuntls had seen the 'views of the
lbur, end however much he respected them
on a mutter in which they bed In interest,
he was more influenced by his constituents
-—-the farmers, suitors, and jurors of Thurs
ton county. Judge Chenoweth had given
them satisfaction, and on their account he
trusted the not of the lost Legislsture
would not be repealed without €3l cones.
He was opposed to it, too, nose he
thought it did injustice to judge Chum
wcth. lie was the successor of judge
Monroe, and by right was entiuod to the
district. Ho doubted the propriety of ms
king changes in districts, ond wu not nt
isfied thot it was even In our power. ‘
would inquire why it was that this bill m
not introduced culier in the seasicn, when
both judges McF-ddeu and Chenoweth
were both here? He had been informed
that they had left, under the impression
that no change was to be sgitotcd st pres-h
cut.
Mr. Poe had not much to add to what.
the gentleman Mm Thurston “id, but he
took the organic Ml. to be definite in re
gunl to this matter. Ind that we Ind no
right. after aligning the judges ud fixing
their residences. now“ done by a bill
which passed unuulmoluly the lat. Council
of which the station!“ from Levi-Mu a
member, to rowigu and make of the
judgea, itineranu. instead of fixing them
permanently, u the not of Uungreu inland
ed 3%" should be.
‘ r. Bigelow followed, quoting the or-
hum act in regard to the control or the!
Leg lnture over districts and judgem—ar-i
{3n that judge Lauder was entitled to‘
I a choice, and referred to custom in all
other States and Territories, giving to the
rhief justice the central district, and he
thought we should not he an exception.
1 Bill ordered to third reading, the ayes
and nnys heng called:
Aym—«Bigelow: llufl, Miles, Patterson,
President—s.
Noes—-l'oe, Stricklar, Torry, yum“;
i Mr, Patterson introdnred a resolution
lcnlling ugon tho Governor for lnfonnnllon
in regur tothe estimate of $300,000 to
extinguish the china and possessor] right
of the Hudson': Bay and Puget Sound
Agricultural comp-ruin
On motion of Mr. Poe, rnlel sukpcnded
to consider the rmolntion now.
On the liunl row, the no: and non
wore demanded, uni resolution adopted by
following vote:
Ayes—Bigolow, Huff, Milw, Patterson,
Strickler, Terry, President—l.
Nocs—l’oe and Yuntia.
Ollfmotion of Mr. Yuntis, House bill:
20. 2 and 91—wrritorinl road bills—nev
erally rend lecond time nndr snupenlion of
rules to refer to the committee on rods
and highwnys.
‘ On motion of Mr. Poe, rules amended
and H. B: 25—an act for the prenrmtion
‘of UysteninShoalwoLer Bur—mid sec
}oml time and referred to committee on ju
idicinry.
w On motion of Mr. Huff, 0. B. S-locu
‘ling the penitentiary—with Home amend
ments, taken up. .
Mr: Poiiriiléad io ndjol'lm. Lo". 3
Mr. l'oc moved to refer to committee on‘
J"“.‘Ei“z-... M“- . . . __ ‘
1 Mr. Miles moved to amend by striking
out, in Second sec-Hun, the words "six
months," and all Ifth “ provided," and in
so". “ llnt I comnlillce of two from the
Council and three from the House be If
poimed to receive Ind enmino the tin.-
to the ltnd propmed to be dented, Ind
dope Qgiglied with the me! 7
Mr. Miles spok: in liver of his nmnd
“rut—thanght tlnt on this wu n pmvlno
o the Cnpitnl bill, it should be inserted
here. He would unto too, that it In
likely the locotion might be nude upon the
claimed by the Hudson's Buy 00., old he
wanted to secure the territory from dim
cnlt heronfur.
Jr. Poe could not see why time bill
locnting nbllc buildings Should not be
made mallow. He was opgowd to Van
counter at nlocotion for If building on
‘ncconnt of it: pocitlon, t a health; and
‘overy other reason. He knewof no or
ungement, and in bound by none to vote
for than location qnoltiono. -
; The Iyu and noes belngidemnded. those
‘votlng for it were oyu— ours. Mile. sad
“it—’- ~ l ,
, flog—Mum. Blgelow. Hal mu»
33m Strlilcklcr. Terry, Yuma, And hr. PM
i cnt— . , 77 >
‘ The question recnrring'ou Home unend
‘menh, the you md Mp were ordered.—
Council concurred by following vote:—
Ayes—Messrs. Bigglow, Half-much,
Stricklcr, Terry, anal, and Mr. Presi
deny—T.
lirgmaLMiuufiinu Im} P 358.
‘ e neat. on ing on no puugo
of the film. the aye. and noe- wen ordered,
Ind were 7 ,
Ayn—Mann. Bigelow, Hui, Fuhr
lon, Strickler, Terry, Ynmls, and Ir.
l’relident.
Nye-TMmrl. Miles and fog—2: _ J
Mr. Poo moved to amend the title of
bill by adding "and to obtain a gun: of
ten acres of and to be turd u a site for
the name.” The chl nncl oe- were clued:
Ayes—Miles, Poe, President—3.
Nouo-Bigelow. Hui, Patterson, Strick
ler, Ten-y, Yum—o.
C. B. 16—111:th to guardin- Ind
Wll‘dl—Wll uleu up Ind onion-ad to I
third radius.
‘ Adionrne . '
V ______ .
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
JANUAIY IS, 1866.
Seven] committees W Ind the re
poru nod.
‘ Mr. Hennil introduced I hill to Inland
the out. regal-ting marl-3““ who
und "(crud to co ntlony.
Message nceivefrofmm the Governor rel-
Ittive to the opproptiou'on for public build
“?i. B. 11,-}; Act Motive mend-non: to
to the election low, was taken up.
The Amendment propond by committee
to Ibo 2d, 3d and uh action were loot.
with. unomlment to the sth section adop
t . . , . V ; , , , .
Mr. \anloce repaid to ennui the 3d
section so as uotgo tak elect till after the
next election. submitting the question to
the pie to left whether soldiers should
be timed to vote—lntendm t ion.
Mr. Clark moved to stringer. section 3
and insert the following : '-
For the pur me of voting, no person
shnu be deeumi to have gained or lost I
residence by reason at his presence or ab
sauce on the service of the United States,
nor while engaged in the nevi ation of the
water of this Territory of the filmed States
or of the high seas.
II On the qucltiou, Mr. Irby spoke :8 (ol
ows :
Mn. Srunx, Sm :—Befure the final vote
‘is taken on this bill, Idealro to ma ny
I'oan for the vote I shall give. Sir, there
no mlny reasons why in my judgment the
11m. 13?;
-lregnlar soldier! of the U. 8. A. Ihonld new
-ibo allowed to vote in our territory. Jet,
u‘they pay no taxes—2d, they are not,re
| quired to work on public roads—3d, Grey
2 nrc incompetent as jurors—and in ii).
- fourth place they are not liable to civil suite.
The general government in enumerating
l her inhnhitonu dooa not enhreee then as
citizens, but as soldiers, lhowilg there very
,clcarly that they are not regarded u my
hum of the clvil, hut e part of the military
ipower ; and I cannot well nee how gentle
linen on this floor will at this Yeriod in out“
country's history, insist in p ting them
lilide by side as it regard: the elective fran
. e‘iise with the civil power. To done would
be at war with all the writers on political
economy from the earliest period in the hie
tory of our country up to the present time.
No State or territory nllowa the regular
soldiers to vote at their election, mdl
know of no good reason why the privilege
should be extended here. I believe the
rule to be it good one which guards the
elective frenchine as much I" possible
against umrpMior—againet frauds—lo Il'
low no class of men to vote for luw-mukere,
who have no interest in the lows no nude.
! would nslr whet interest the regular aold
ier lma in any lam made by a Stnte or ter
ritory ? None whatever ; the; are not
subject to any of the civil laws 0 any Steto
or territory, nor can they be mode so ;
they cannot be regarded on citizens, tor
they are subject to the order of the Secre
tary'of war and be removed from one ex
tremity of the Union to the other at his
bidding. and if no removed can never re
turn except ordered to do so by the name
authority while connected with the army.
Mr. Speaker, I Imve had some little prac
ticnl experience relating to soldiers voting.
1 live in 3 county where there is a military .
post, and where the aoldicre’ vote counts
tutes the bell-lee of power. If the condi
dates for allies are in favor with the add
iers, then their election is next thing to
certainty, if otherwise defeat in equity en'-
teln; thug giving the election of all our.
county offices into the heads of the .
noldiers—-a clan of men who he nah:-
tenet overtake, not new to M vii ,
laws, neither inlood on be. It glue to a
clear who pay no tom—who In potent--
lect- of tendon. the entire control over
thoae who are euhjecla of motion and why |
do pay the taxes in the county which _
hove in part the honor to repreeept. W g.-
Aaplrlng loan who look, W my
once-pay (over the id” 0! “W Ms,
the soldier the rightot ”1n... hinder
the I “£1", the policy mm
end an autocratic, nod will out Iy vote
to exclude the. from the firllogee of the
olefiive from. , i. ~ ,v 1;
. Mr. Clark replhd by mung the“.
could not vote to deprive ‘leunl-oh
the of hinge. . lie mum (“l-I
l 3“ mzmntb‘u"w?l‘ft
end hecou not one yie- 1
doing ao. He would not I’m
in time 0! all couture win. r-httlt‘fl'l
ooldlen I: lived here I! the time!!!“-
ment, owned property and pill um
should he nllowod to veto. - - m
Mr. Hendrlchon lnid that then "i
be some single inst-nee M‘ .
mlghthedcne,bnthehad tenth" ’d'
nilowini't'ho loldlen to you pod he fil
eel-toil: 'mtmu-awmlv ,
chnneter'oftlllhelbi‘etho‘ ' ‘57 g
much W‘Mdh‘e MW'b '*
not believe thnt they dednd to ex“
the right offhneltlae. -- ' ' ‘
The motion in loot. ' ' ' '
Ayes and noel culled by It. Bew
lon. - .
A u—Brl-ooe, Cm,'olork, Do le,.
fluid, Mchw, Stiles mum nudity
Speaker—9. "‘ . ‘ ' ‘
Noee—Ahemcthfi, Cock, Maggi)“:-
vie Hendrick-on. ennle, Irh‘h ,"
Spinning, mom mm m M4ll.
Home adjourned; " ‘. ’_.
Arr-moon SIWK.
H. B. 11, Itill np woe lnid on the tnblq
till tomorrow. '
H. B. 81, read n loennd title. ‘
H.B.BB,reodnlecondtlm. "
H. B. 29, laid on the able. ' "
H. B. H, rel-ting to fem ind her
viewers—rend n second time.
Mr. Abernathy mud to «tend by
striking out 83 action! Old Inning .
lont. -. '
Aner nrlou mute prone-ed," all
of which were lost. old none W
> discnuion, the bill «on mod n third the
nod paced. ’ V
r Governofll men-go taken up, rad- Ill”
referred to leleot coal-Moe. . .
' Denny, Brim, Doyb, comm. »
Home edlonwtd. /’ ' ...e ". ~
} Sumo". Jon. is, 1955.
‘ "1°22” met pursuant to ntljoiil-nllleg't..ln
. A r some prell‘nnnn lamina?" '
morning, on motion of )3. Irby, :‘B. I];
‘ unending the election low, In: thinning:
Mr. Wallace withdnwing h unend
i mcnt offered yolkerdndy still ~ _ .
, Mr. Spinning o cred the ollowlllg
- nmedmeut as I substitute far nation 8; > _
r No once: soldier, oflicer “mom on a...
’ rine in the nrnryor nary ol'tho Rolled
' Slates, shall be deemed to have not] .
residence in this Territory in connoqnonco.
' of having been stationed within the ,
nor shall any such oflcer soldier or. ,
2 have the right to vote onion he I.“ 'n, ti;
7 no of this Territory at the time of hi! en
.- listmeut. ' ’ , ‘
:| Mr. Clark olfcred the following OW-