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NEW-HAMPSHIRE GAZETEE, A N D GENERAL ADVERTISER. - ¥ol. XXVIL. | L OND O N, Febroary 21, Housk of Commons, Monday, Feb.l7. R. THOMAS PITT opened the de- M bate in declaring te the Houte, that 3¢ was with a mixture of pain and pleasure that he at length {aw the day arrive, so lung wished for, which, putting a pericd to a ru inous war, restored to the Britith empire the blessings cf peacé.——* A mixture of pleature and pain (continued he)— Ot pain, 2t the view of the facrifiCes it bas been tound indispensably neceflary to make ;—but of pleature, in anticipating the various telicity, ‘with which peace was hastening to compen {ate to the nation for these very facrifices, ¢ Although this fatter sentiment will not be so readily adopted as the former; altho’ gt is unhappily too true, that mankind are more inclined to maniteft their discontent, than their joy and fatisfaction ; although, of course, experience has constantly demon ftrated,that peace,how ardently soever it may be desired becofites always unpopular as soon as it is thade, it is, ncverthelefs, apparent to gvery impartial mind; thit however the loss and gain may be balanced 2t the end of 2 war, peace is 2lways 3z blefling. But two teafons concur, in the firft moments, to pre sent it to ue in dnother point of view. If the war has been glorious, our spirits, eléva ted, set no bounds'to our pretensions, nor to the supposed humiliation of the enemy ; if, oh the contrary; ft=has been; like that from which this nation is jaft beginning to respire, only a series of difaffer, our rational pride can barely sloop to exaét no conceflions, But if we disdain even moderation like this, ought such unseasonable arrogance to pro long the war, till we are not only unable to support it,but even to prefervé our being asan independent people? Too deeply imprefled with this just reflection.it is not without pain ¢hat I undertake the task which hasthis day §allen to my lot. How reasonably soever my humble facultles may represent the matter, I know Now ill what [ have to propose will be recelved ; I 2lready anticipate she cla mours of prejudice ; but it is without these walls ; here I expect to encounter po fuck enemies to reason and comuion sense, and I submit myfélf to the candour which diftin guithes this Honourable House. = = ¢¢ When two nations enter into 2 war, neutral fpe@ators 2lways have fonie reasons to determine which of them will have the ad\i’angg.i ‘Fhé compligation of events, ¢he combination of causes, which have fuc ceflivély declared against us, have too well juftified the opinion of foreigners, and the fears of our own people, that the confedera tion of our-eénemies would at length be found oo powerful for the naked, unsupported firength of this nation. These fears have Been realized 3 qur enemies have determin ed their superiority ; and by thisincontefli ble truth alone, we must be governed'in de termining whether peace was, or was not neceflary, i o R ey ¢ 1f Gentlemen will repeat here, what has been jaid out of doors, that we might have made a better peace, let them produce the means, & let the most prejudiced minds pro nounce on the pofiibitityor impoflibityof put ting them in execution. Alas,this is a fubjeét on which one cannot fix 2 moment’s atten tion, without uttering a painful sigh at those SATURDAY, Arrit 19, 1783, execrable firft causes, which Inevitably drew after them every succeeding calamity; That invaluable branch of this empire, which, at the close of last war, extended from Hud{un's Bay to the gulph of Mexics, at the very be ginning of this, was almost confined within the narrow. limits of the former French pof feflions ih America. Thus we were no lon ger that powerful nation, which, twenty years before, could have defied 2 confedera cy of all Europe. ;| A decline of power an noynces a diiffiinution of success: it was im possible to recover cur loft superiority, since the whole nation had determined, that Anie rica was loft for ever to the Britith crown, It was in this wildernefslef calamities,when we had nothing but future misfortunes in perfpe&tive, that our Miniflers seized 2 mo ment of vi¢tory, the only moment, perhaps, in which the fafety of the nation was prac ticable, to listen to those terms of peace, which prejudice alone can confider as unfa vourable. What mufi we have dong? An swer me this single question ; whether it was better to continue the war, than 1o accept z peace, of which the worst that can be said, is, that it dees not correspond to the wishes of 2 people accustomed to conquer, and cle vated by previous {uccefles. But before any Gentlemen will answer in the z2ffirmative, let me call their attention to the iollowing fkeich of the fiaie of the nation, at that time when his Majenty’s DMinillars resolved that peace was indispensable. The papers 1 thail lay before the House cannot be {fufpedled, since they contain the repori of 2 gommittee appointed for this purpoic, in crder 19 pre pare the House for a difcufivn which mauft have taken place on this, or {uine atber day, and to convince them of the true tate of the public finances, As thisinquiry was demand ed by myfelf, my eondut in this refpeét has been plain and confifient ; I have uniformly re probated the American war ; and I shall now demonstrate, that the pursuit of that wat dlone has so fatally exhausted €he finances of this country, For this purpose, I thall lay before the House 2 comparaiive slate of, our préfent fitnation, and of that before the con test with America. In January, 1776, the amount of the national debt was 123 -milli ons, the annual interet of which was ho oA VBAE" b i a s Ty Mr, Pitt then proceeds to shew, that a 2 war of 5 years cost 5 millions more- than al! the wars of the las a,gc,inclu?in”'g-:thc splendid 3nd important vitories ot the Duke of Marl borough ; and concludes with demontfirating, that the present annual interest of the natio nal debt amounts to £.9,393,137—The civil - lift expences, to £. goo,ooo—T he expences of government, in time of peace, to£. 3,500, coo-—Total of annual expence, £. 13,793, 137 — (without including the arrearage of tie civil lift, amounting to £. 2,500,000, which, he fays, must be paid by some .means or other)—while the present taxes, all of whick must be continued, produce enly 12,500, cool. v leepaty INSEE T at o He proceeds—*¢ These taéls, I think, are fufiicient to convince ,this House, that a de cree from Héavcn,tfla‘t should have con demned this nation to another year’s war, would have, in effe@®, condemned ber to cer-, tain deftrs&tion : 2nd if lam npt deceived in'this belief, I think 1 may assume it as a principle, and of course, as 2 rule for the conduct of Parliament, that a peace, such as tbe Ministers have concluded, is 2n object ex-~ tremely 10 be desired. .1 know that unhap pily, exceptions may always be made to the molt accuraie general obtervations, | kinow that certain partial contiderations of com merce militate with my gencral principle ; but trade basinfinite 2nd prompt resources, which landed preperty bhas not; and this property which conilitutes the ladical firength of every couniry, was leflening its value every day. .l am not ignorant, that there is a certain defcripticn, ¢f men, who, witbout any other mctive than_the malig nant pleature of finding fault ; withour any other view than to leaie men in cffice, fay among themselves— /lhere was the mighty hurry < Why not take the chance of another cans paign ¢ Mighty fine, tiuly !~=This is the preciie language ofa mad gamester, who, crying out, $f One throw more, and the last,” jult completes bis ruin.——ls these. conside rations are just, I flatter myfelf, the House will turn a deaf ear to the clamouts of two forts of men, equally. to be fufpe@ed ™ mean those who have been, and Ithofe who wish to be, Miciflers.. 1 confider g perions as deglers in, the fame market, who deprecizte the commodities of other pegr®s in order to raise . the value of their ph, I confess, . 2m 3lways armed agzinft them both ; and if they present ,i!_f_méic.l-.\?es only to fay, it is a bad peace, I aniwer, their bare affcrtion is_ infignificant, It they offer to prove it, let me ask them, whether they could have made a better; If they fay,jer ~-come, then, fay Itellus how,-- Here they are at 2 dead non plus, and can only return tothe watch wood ot their parties-- Iz is a bad peace ! - We. shall be zble tg form an idca of the piejudices of men of this class, by a knowledge of the following fact, I haye addrefled myjelf, indireétly, to Mr, Fox and JLord North,"to engage £he firli not to inter rupt the quiet of his country, by examining, in detail, a negcciation,which ought to, and can be judged only inthe. mass ; and advi sing the second to seize this epportunity of making some. repa-ation to this nation, for the errors 2nd calamities of his ill- starred ad minifiration, by juflifying a tréaty, which the miseries of the American war have for ced upom ber, . if, before we ‘irocézed\,{b vote upon. the question which I shall submit to the House, these two Honorable l\&x‘nbe'rs will answer my firft question, and fay they could have a more advantageous peace, et them do me the favor to determine, whether the profpe& of advantage were ¢qual to the hazard of another campaign, and the cer taip expence of 20 millions flerling.” He goes on’to observe, that the cessions made to France and Spain were of no great importance, and then lays--* It is true, that by the treaty with the United Statcs.of_Ame rica, we acknowledge their independence ; but all the world knows, that,. in so doing, we only seem to give them what God and nature have already put into their hands s and in defining their limits, we i} reserve Nova-Scotia and Canada, countries large. encugh for all the speculations of commerce .¢ I pass now to the only article, that afa fli&ed, cruelly sfllicted me, at the firft read ing : that I'mean, which relates io the Loy- i 3 [ Vs, 138&