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WT -"V -w v UJL. XIV. NO 36. and their alliance within, though they -should -pay me well ia ibeir com for doing such a work. (7) This sounds oddl enough, cominjr from such" a source.' It is as if a young wolf bai bleated like a lamb or as if a vulture bad crowed like chanticleer. (8) Bo it seems that this wise one han sel has not been wise "from the begin ning" that the Tiews be is advancing, rrfn t in Yrm iK cKKt attachment, of the South to slavery, if . they did not originate . with himself bare not long been in his possession. They probably bad their be ginning with him, and will probably bare their ending with bim. Wherever they may hare begun, or whererer they may end, they will hare short duration and lim ited extent. The intelligent on this subject have always known " that but a small part of thCSoutb were slaveholders," if by this - it be meant that -the stares are in compara tively a lew hands. Few, perhaps, hare undertaken to ascertain precisely .the pro portion. But. all hare been sufficiently acquainted with the general facts that slare holding is "pre-eminently a monopolizing, aristocratic business that it - places the power and the possession's In the hands of the few over the many. But the wise Ed itor of the Journal appears to hare had" a different view of the matter. The para graph he exlracts'froni Cbanning, a little below what I am now remarking on, seems to bare filled him with new light, with which he proposes so to flood the world as to procure fhe removal of slavery" without the performance of any Herculean task, or . the application of any offensive' truths to the consciences of the sinners ! The use be makes of the particular fact therein contained, as to the precise proportion, shows the utter ignorance be has hitherto been inas to the general fact. Then the effect produced on his mind by what he has here" obtaiued from Channing, shows the deference be pays to a name.; The partic ular fact he gets from Channing though Channing himself get it from another, in stead of knowing it for himself has an effect on him, coming from the source it does, which the general' troth be might bare obtained as a working, common-sense man r could not produce. The effect on bis mind is rery wonderful. It sets him to discours ing yery learnedly oa the supposition that otbers bare beetf as ignorant of the general truths or the case as he has. But the most aoiusing'of bis whole precedure in the case is, his new theory built upon his acquire ment of the knowledge, In 1842, that the slares are in the hands of a few compared with the whole , population. At least this theory is to do away all hard sayings, and all haid work in the case, whether it does away slavery or not! J (9) Just as though this were a truth that bad not been known and published by those he reproaches with wrong measures. Or as though the kno wledge of this fact should 'bare prerented the course that has effected iall that has been done. , V (10) But'do they repent of their sins in sustaining it? Where are their fruits of . repentance?' ., j; (11) All this they may think, and. feel, and say of slavery, if they are not required to acknowledge any thing corresponding herewith in regard to slaveholders. They - will acknowledge slavery to be bad they will attach as many and as bad names to it as the most wicked and fanatical abolition ist, if you vill only let slaveholders alone. You "may denounce adultery and murder as much as you please, if you will only treat the adulterers" and murderers as good and honest men. worthy m ha tpipvpA ntn fhriet. -ian alliance and co-operation. This is the course pursued by the Editor of the Journal He says terrible things about slavery, and yet at the same time nllie iualC niik holders- as philanthropists and Christians 1 - - w.a.t. . . . V . TV 1IU ttUVC He might as welt denounce drunkenness, and then join himself to a societr of habit wjm uruuKarus, tor me purpose ot spreading Paul's doctrinelof "righteousness, temper ance, and judgment- to come,." He might as well denounce whoredom, and then loin himself to a society of brothel keepers for the purpose of spreading pure' and unadul , 4erated Christianity. The language used affords no eTidence that any right Tiews are entertained by those who use iu It gives no proof of penitence,; or of any proper -conviction. There " is rio evidence" of. a hearty desire to lorsakt the sin, because it a sin. K there could only be delirerance from the tl7, of .lam7 lLere WuM be very Utile difficulty with slavery itself. Jt ii not the sinfulness of .larery they be wai , so much a, the er,7,, the dangers, the wastefulness,-ia a word the' in;5I..M and impolicy of it. This affords no eri dence that they would cire it un if tk- could only remove the evils attached to lt-1 if they could only make it expedient, safe -and'prcStable. r ; : ' A ' ' (12) Abolitionists bare always known ' that a pxecious few, scattered here and there. in different parts of the South, embracing ail the conscience there is there on this sub ; ject, are with utj and bare always given meia ruIJ credit for all they haVe done, bailing and cheering them' as noble co adjutors ia our holy cause. But that M a large portion 0f the South" ihat is, any hurh i propotiioo as the Editor of the Jtimial trppears to thick,' arc en right ground touch ing the subject, ready, io do what they ought to do, and "already doing what they can, remains to be prored. It is sufficiently contradicted and disproved by the bare fact that slarery continues. For iF there were any such state of mind and heart on the subject as "he conjectures, slarery must bare been abolished before now. - ( 13) Confining the us" to the Editor of the Journal and as many as agree with him on this -subject, I shall not contend tt'ilh him much, about the worthiness of the South except the few faithful abolitionists there to co-operate with them' in their moral and religious enterprizes. I hare quite as much fellowship for the, practical slaveholder at the South, as for his deter mined defender and ally at the North. (14) "Us" and "our principles are well put in. They tally much better with the facts than with the intentions and profess ions. For himself, and as many as agree fftth him on the subject, the Editor of the Journal may with safety and propriety say "at the South, more'are they that are for us, i.e. for our principles, than they that are against qs." But I protest against his saying this for abolitionists. There 'is no ground in truth or reason for such an asser tion to stand upon. - .-...- (15) He has here quoted a little too much from Channing, to show the ' weakness of slavery." How is it that so weak a thin" has "governed the whole country"? "Vhen I had reviewed the piece as far as the notes indicate, I was broken eff, and prerented attaching further notes before the time arrived for the piece to go into type j so what I hare now to say further will be differently arranged. , - The Editor of the Journal asks "what ought to be our conduct towards these men at the South?". In answering this question, lor himself, e says " instead of brand in z these men as robbers, murderers, adulterers, ccc. &c.. we should address them in th language'of kindness, may we not add of sympathy. We should bid them a hearty welcome to our labors of lore. In this way, and perhaps ' in this alone, can we bring them to a knowledge of our " principles and measures" and. secure their co-operation in our attempts to abolish slavery ." None have made so large pretensions to discrimination, or complained so much for what they have thought to be a want of it in others, as the opponents of reformers. But it is time for them to stop and take lessons on the sub ject, before they give out any more. In the extract I hare just taken, the Editor of the Journal exhibits a great want of dis- crimation. He jumbles things together which do. not belong together in such a connection. "We should address them in language of kindness, may we not add of sympathy. We .should bid them a hearty welcome to our labors -of lore." Now it is one thing to treat our fellow beings with " kindness " and "sympathy;" it is another thing, under some circumstances altogether different, to "bid ihem a hearty welcome to our labors of lore "ie. to associate with them on such terms as to acknowledge their moral ity and Christianity. A" human being should never be trealea by any other humaa bein but with kindness and sympathy. But to associate . with men guilty of enormous crimes, j)n such terms as to endorse fori their morality and Christianity, while they conunue.in their criminal practices, would De to partake of their evil deeds. Take an a illustration. A community of men live by keeping brothels, stealing ihei'r neichborV sheep, and plundering their neighbors' corn- heids. And in the nature of the case mur der not unfrequently follows. Reason and Christianity forbid that they should be treat ed with any unkindness or want of sympa- iny as tellow beings. CBy sympathy here I saati not be understood to mean fellow feeling for their wicked acts, but for them. as our leiiow oeings, with commott natures and common interests. But while they con tinue in these violations of the law of God and the rights of men, we can not ally our selres with them and co operate with them in such a manner as to acknowledge their Christianity and moral honesty, without helping them on in their sins and making ourselres guilty in common wiih them. This, to my mind, is as clear as son light. Bui the principal thing to be settled be tween us, after all, I apprehend to be, to know what constitutes true and genuine kindness, affection, and sympathy, in the case. Thfs'is' the true point of difference between us." Now I maintain that the course pursued by the Editor of the Journal in disallowing the calling of things by their right names, and in treating as honest men arid Christians those who are enormously guilty is calculated to blind and deceive the guil'y, and keep them along in their sins. And to do thus, I contend, is not to manliest, genuine kindness, affection and sympathy, but the reverse. If men get their living, and their means of showing tha lelres benerolent,-by keeping brothels, and SDDronriatlno.k.:. n: . . -r.-. Micir uej-ooors' sneep and corn in"r own rtnmncA r , . . - e consent b, nta hnmve I arer th, Hose ho towards tbem u io le,T. ...!.. . . undisturbed io their smful conduct are the wrong ones to claim to themselves all ibe kindness and sympathy. The E.i;,rt. r the Journal will uot allow that tbev called lhieres, robbers and murderers. Dom he deny that their acts are theft, robbery and murder 2 This be dare not do. But lirge numbers of those who are guiltv of the acts profess to be opposed to the very things they are constantly doing, and will throw themselves into bad temper if their acts are called by right names; so, in kind' ness and sympathy they must be treated as if they were not guilty we must say to them by our kind and sympathetic conduct towards them, that they are honest men arid Christians! Such kindness and sympathy, making us, as it does, to speak falsely in bur conduct, and. them to be deceived there by, is not the kindness and sympathy which Christ used and taught-. There is not a particle of kindness or sympathy in ir, or about it. It is downright unfaithfulness and dishonesty. True kindness and sympathy require preaching truth in love, whether tho?e to whom it is preached be pleased or offended whether they will hear or forbear. That the guilty take offence is no sure proof of unkmdness or want of sympathy on the part of the reprover None ever gave, of fense oftener than our Sa vior himself. And who will charge him - with unkindness or .want. of sympathy? If the acts of men are adultery, Tobbery and theft, they must be shown that ihey are adulterers, robbers and thieves, or they will not repent of these their evil deeds. They will never repent of sins they do not believe they have com mitted. And they can not be convinced that they are guilty of such monstrous un godliness by being treated as if they were nonest men and Christians. They alone, then, I say, exhibit genuine, Christian kindness and sympathy, who deal faithfully and honestly with sinners, pointing out to them their sins, and specifying what the sins are. Calling men sinners in general termsl will not do the work. Especially this will not reach those who have already professed to be Christians. The Editor of the Journal says, "If denunciatory lan guage, and the, frequent application of the epithets murderers, manstealers, and such Me, would have reformed the South, it would have been-reformed lona a"-o." It is a sufficient reply to th is to say that if letting the South alone in their sins if sympathizing with the oppressor in such a manner as to leave his heels on the necks of his poor victims if treating him with such kindness as to leave "him quiet and undisturbed in such unkindness towards those he crushes for gain if " bidding ihm a hearty welcome to our labors of love," and thus practically saying to them that they are not thieves, robbers or adulterers, but good followers of Christ and examples of piety and holiness if all this, I say, antl all the rest of the unfaithfulness, dishonesty, and hypocrisy that have always been prac tised towards slaveholders " would have reformed the South, it would have been re formed longer ago ! The" faithfulness of true and. genuine, abolitionists, in point of time and numbers, is not a tithe of the unfaithfulness of their opposer?. Who, I ask, have brought about the present state of things that the nation is roused from an awful -slumber which was well nigh being the sleep of death that chains are already falling in every direction that those who pertinaciously tighten their grasp, "sinning wiIfuHy after that they have received the knowledge of the truth," exhibit " a certain learlul looking for of judgment and fierv indignation." that the rrrotal elements are tn commotion that the A merican Juir'er- naut already ' reels to and fro, and staggers like a drunken man," and ' its supporters "are at their wit's end " that heartless politicians turn pale, and hypocritical reli gionists cry out and "gnaw their tongues lor pain " Who have done all this ? And what are the measures by which it has been accomplished ? Who but the very ones the Journal is faulting and what but the very measures, by w hich they are d istingu ished, and lor which they are decried and made odious? Up to the time they commenced opeations, tbe very measures which the Journal prescribes had been in constant od- eraticn - during the existence of slarery ; and the enect ot this treatment had been to enlarge the place of its tent, and stretch fotth the curtains 'of its habitations: to lengthen its cords aud stfengihen its stakes: to cause it to break forth on the ribt hand and on the left, until it inherited the nation and the church I Hie language of these popular measures was, and is, to slavery "Fear not; for thou shall not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded : for thou shah not be put to shame." What could be mnrp comforting td slaveholders what better. de fense could they ask for slaverv. than to hare such papers as the Journal come in .,. their aid, at such a time as this, and at snrh a stage in the conflict, and stoutly deny for them the truth of the principal charges that have been brought against them, denouncin the very statements which have produced the conviction on ihe minds of the guilty, as. "unkind, groundless charges" "on kind, unjust charges," &c.? The more pro fession the Journal makes of anti-slavery in connection with such practice as this, the better slaveholders will like it. Be cause they know that as many as ean be brought to embrace such views as the Journ al here advances will be sure to give them no disturbance. And more, thai a stout professionof anti-lavery, at the North, is necessary, i a the present state of thinss. to keen ceonle avav fmm the true Anti Slavery ground. To commit men and keep them to such a profession of hostility to slavery as will be sure to let slaveholders alone in their' sins, is the thing of course, which slaveholders desire and seek. And what else, I ask, could do this so effectually as the very course the. Editor of the JournalJs pursuing making large profession of hostility to slavery, and at the same time defending slaveholders with all his might against the. very shafts which have roost effectually reached and pierced their consciences? ; 1 ' He says, " Let abolitionists say at once, that the great mass of the people at the South is abolition.'? Here is . another key to the "principles and measures" of the Journal or rather an exhibition of its prin ciples and measures. In the name of truth and in behalf of common sense I ask what U this " abolition " which exists so exten sively at the South? It is that which 'a6ol ishes all righr action on the subject. It is saying against doing. It is profession against practice. It is just such abolition as exists extensirely at the Northwhether more ex tensively at the South or at the North it might be "difficult to tell. The declaration which the Editor of the Journal here makes in regard to it, together with the rest of his declarations in "this piece shows perfectly what his own abolition is. It is no abolition at all. It is all i - m i vuiuj He talks about the " weakness of slavery." anu then says the "great mass of the peo ple at the South is abolition." And it is to be presumed .that he would not say there is less "abolition" at the North than at the South. Why then is not slavery abolished? The fact that it is not the fact thai this weak thing, so-called,withstands so "great" a "mass of" his "abolition," South and JNortb, shows just how strong arr affair his " abolition " is. It is an abolition of num bers without principles, and against princi ples. There is not the least savor of eman cipation in it. "It i3 neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill" "it is good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men." Among all these denouncers of denunci ation there is a' reckless exaggeration to which it is proper to call attention occasion ally. They talk as if those who occasion ally call things by their right names were constantly, and almost, if not quite exclu sively, employed in using "these epithets which are so disquieting to them and to their shiveholding allies. Honesty and fair dealing would require them to concede that the principal facts and arguments which have been produced against slaveholding have had a common origin with the denun ciation. This being made known, it would be seen that the one could no more be dis pensed with than the other-tbat the latter stands necessarily connected with the form- TT 1 I M er xie anuues to temperance measures, by way of attempting an illustration of his abolition views advanced. I ask if anything has evor been gained to the Temperance cause by denying that we have been an intemperate people--drunkards and drunk ard makers? What was it that aroused the people to action on the subject of Temper ance ? What, but that we were told, and made to see and feel that we were a nation of drunkards and drunkard makers, all go ing down to ruin togethei ? We have al ways had our profession-and-no-action folks in connection with this subject, as well as with abolition. These have always been lagging along behindi banging on upon the skirts of those who do, the work, or else geitiDg before, with their faces the wrong way, and advancing only as they were driven &accWart-thus,io.eiiher position, being the greatest possible hmdr...,! yet all the while determined in one way or the other to keep so close to those who r at work as to save their - w . v ia null, For one, I would thank such iust tn ,Pn into die ranks where they belong. Whether mey will or not, I am determined that thpir true position shall be defined, stand where ihey will. Show me a reformed drinker, of any gtade, and I will show you one who uas oeen brought into his present situaiion, either directly or indirectly, by faithful deal ing, by the (ise of language showing him his real condition. He was not rnnBf..i by being told that he W93 St ll-mnorin. while he continued in the nraetir, nr,i,;i. ing. The Editor of the Journal sav m.i... the impression upon the mind of the man wuom you would reclaim that vou nrV t,;, enemy, and as long as that impression la.ts iwu. .iuuCuce,ior good oyer him is but fee tie.". The impression that thn 1. u U Cn J I. r. . it . FiCawu ,uV ..uui laiuiiuuy are the enemies of those to wnom they preach, is most ;MnDMn.. made by the misrepresentations of those wno occupy just such a position tnWa the parties as the Journal occupies in the case now in nand. ' . ' The Editor nf tho r..-lr , . 'WMiuui undertakes io show how it is that slavery continues a ar4,ol afc me ooutn, and the traffic, in intoxicating drinks at the North, while the great mass of the people, here and there, ore opposed to both. He makes out the one case just as well as he does the other. He makes out neither the one nor the other. That both slavery at ihf bouth and the rum-traffic at the North continue in existence, are undeniable facts.. But to pretend that. Jhey exl$l ia pj. the great mass of the people thai the great mass" of the people are. not to be held responsible for their existence, is all moonshine, l And at fhc same time to talk about tho u weakness of these prac tices," is highly ridiculous. The truth isj with a large portion of this great mass of the people described, there is profession without corresponding practice and to a great extent profession with contradictory practice, i There is one aspect of the case which affords sorre relief to the people; It is the consideratiori that thev are Jed .... astray by such leaders and teachers as the Journal. This, however, only shifts the responsibility. It does not make put that they put their professed opposition to shivery and the rum-traffic in practice, and thus make themselves abolitionists tow ards these practices. It Only shows why they are not abolition isis viz: because they are prevented by . the guides" and teachers whom they choos6 , to follow, instead of acting for themselves. Before "the great mass of the people at the" North claim to be abolitionists towards the rum-traffic, let them abolish the laws licensing thai traffic. Until they do such a thing, the naughty names which the Editor of the Journal himself would have attached to those who sustain the? traffic, if he had not bitten his lip, and suppressed whit was on his tongue, will attach to them. And he will never aid them on one step towards the performance of their duty in this thing, by telling them they are already good abolitionists in the ease never. Finally, the Editor of the Journal makes a most monstrous work of" classi fying. Either he designedly neglects to make and carry out proper'distinctions, or he is not capable of doing it -or. other vise still, he has not studied his subject sufficiently to justify his meddling with it. He undertakes to talk with large wisdom and expanded intelligence about classes at the South who compose the great mass of the people that are abolition. These "we should bid a hearty welcome to our labors of love." He afterwards speaks of j the few who uphold slavery, in its "weak ness." Describing one of these individu als he says, Neither the groans of the slave, nor the, voice of his blood, which crieth from the ground for vengeance. will turn him aside from his prey." I ask brother Brierly with which of these classes he ranks those Baptists at the South Davis and Meredith, for instance who take the Bible into their hands to defend slavery with? Are thev anion" his "abolitionists"?. Or are they among those who can not be turned aside from their prey, and are a "disgrace to man hood"? I want him to place this class of individuals somewhere, and let us know where. In his practice he has done it. He has allied himself wiih them as Chris tians. He has taken them by the right hand dripping and smoking with gore as it is as co-workers in preaching an unadulterated gospel to the heathen ! This shows what his "abolition " is what his principles & measures " are ! It shows that he has sacrificed both, and all, on the altar of sectarianism ! Fjjm ale Moral Reform Society. The Eighth Adversary of this society was held last evening at the Hester-street chuich. The annual repoit of the board states the number of copies of the Journal w men nave Deen issued during the last year, at 15,500; the number of paes of tracts published, at 474,000-a largeTnum ber of which were gratuitous ; 40,000 peti tions have been forwarded to the Legisla ture during the year; three missionaries have been employed, who have visited 6 - 570 families. Of the Advocate, 47,652 copies have been distributed; 7,000 signa- lul" wuwiueu io me temperance pledge and 160 children har Wn Kr.,k. babbath schools. A Bethel 'Miinn,; . . UlUULUk 1 II' 11 uu ueen sieaauvemn Invert tvhn h,, n 0-n r , - ' J ' w uo ion- ed 3,82 vessels distributed 12,650 Ad vocates. 534 Directories, and. 194,539 na- fully made, it is ascertained that in the Eighth Ward alone, there are 97 d wel lings occupied by open! v vicious females, whose number in that Ward is estimated ui UdUS. from inVPStlO-af inns fnro at oy. Taking this as a basis, it is be lived that our city contains 1.640 houses of ill-fame, aad 1 1,540 open prostitutes. Horrible as is this Dicture: ii is Ko c.i." ot carttul and patient investigation. Trib i . . .. .... America and Foreign Ant Society. 1h Society beld its second Tv. J . e- cnu-ch corner pf Delancv & Obrvstip stro rn.. 5. - - x uc8. eve ning. A iaro'e aiidim.v. . . citizens listent-d in th.-..- . UHr parent and xrratificatmn - a pan presided. . The meeting was opened With nrairo. I... o.. mi. . - c.r . cu r.u' J ".uuui l o. vriffnt Of this city The annnat rrt ' j by Rev. S. S. Jnrpftri. tKVrT. j .: Secretary, and Lewis Ta ppan offered a set . . mai were unanimously adopt ed. The closing address was made bv the lievMr. Pennintnn n!.tin. .u Colored, Congreguion at Hartfotd, Conn. oteresun mteltlfrpna - : . , . a . J t i w""mcaiea i rum the Amistad Afi twns, at Sierra Leone 5-frorri wcwaeres ai west India and Sandwich Islands from Erianj - , France, and letters Were n-ad fiorn ev al distinguished individuals. " lr" 7 - VERMONT TELEGRAPH? BRANDON, WEDNESDAY. MAy! Editorial Responsibility. tCl propose; in future, to be very eral towanls all Christians all loters 0 truth and holiness aitd human sahalion in the matter of publishing wi iters to h l unsiaerea wemseives atone responsible f what they communicate. To insure placein the Telegraph, every piecedntolt ingin any way a statement of facts, must be accompanied with a responsible 'signa ture to be at least, kept in my hands' aml the more who consent to' accompany their published communications with their oun proper signatures, the better, it .vrj. me that the propriety and usefulness 0f the entire course markedout in this para. graph will be apparent to every liberal & unbiased mind. Fortlier Reply to brother Fletcher Letter. The writer asks, Have you a right to storm and rave because the Baptists prefer a paper of different character from yours In reply 1 ask, when, whtrp or wherein I have d.me any such ihiBn ? It is not the fict that a paper has been o: np that I complain of. I made no com plaint when the Voice of Freedom cnm into existence although that paper hurt my subscription list more than the B in iit Journal has or is likely to. The thine I complain of in regard lo -the' Journal is, the manner of getting it up, and the treat ment of He Telegraph in connection th. re with. In view of the "cruel and ruth less" assault that' the writer has maJe jp. on me, on the point now under consiJeo tion, and in view of his charge ofoosicl ment, and many other things that have transpired, I feel called upon io make a disclosure that will very much firmh up the case, showing that the course pursed towards the Telegraph, by its assailant, in geiting up the Journal, has ten one unbroken succession of frauds, from l giufiing to end. I am going to deal pHjn. ly, as usual, giving names, places, &c. U will be recollected that brother Myer?, in the former of his two coinmunieaii showed abundantly how the affnr c..ie up and progressed in the Woodstork As sociation. I will now bein with i as it came up at Poultney. O.i the vvenii: oi the first day of the Convention, after ;fjf evening session had closed, brethren J,. seph Freeman, Ryland Fietcher, .hc- ' name is appended to this letter, Ber.jin ia Brierly, now Editor of the Jounai,I .- brother Carpenter from Ira, brother D. N. Higgins of i L is village, and KisA being in a room by ourselves in thehous--- of brother Geo. Cutting, biother Frw i-u uijucaicu iue - pnvi.e2e o: q :;il;r;: ing me. I consented, as I always do, to beq-icstioned to any and every e:c e..:,; .rUQ: ising to make as sitisfaciory answer a-1 could. Questions touching ativil.i..? I had so far considered as 10 be settled un I would answer fully. If anything sho'j'J come up that I was unsettled en I aou.'J say so, and be tlnnkful for inform.!;). I did not take down the questions r r &. answers at tbe time, and shall cot, there fore, pretend to rehearse all that was s-i.'d. I recollect makini? two noints of d."a?ree ment with common usages ajncnjthe or thodox, on which 1 was settled ar.J i'ii ed. 1. I denied that it is for men to li cense Christ's ministers to preach, main taining that their license cov.es froc Christ himself. 2. 1 deaied that the layicj on of the hands of the presbvt''"' ,J'neceS' sary to qualify Christ's ministers for ad ministering the ordinance o(bcpri' a?" pealing to the record for the Maker's di rections, wherein he says" go, teach all nations, baptizing them," ccc-there be ing no evidence, that he taug'it cr requir ed the imposilioii of hands as a prerequis ite to the administration of this ordiuance. In regard to the former of these positions, brother, Freeman, instead cf undertaking to defend the cotnmoii nsag-e, virtually abandoned it, as I thought, ty saying th he did not look upon what is done ia case as giving license, but rather cre-h rials, or certification of character, siasu ing ami qualification. In regard to the o't her point, I do not recollect tht fcecjs mitted himself, it being not so much obieel to discuss the in !Tet niv nnininns nnrl viPlVS. iiei"1- any other question came up on n hich 1 expressed myself settled in disagree " . - - " " T a 1 -if meet, t An not roritUrct I aiH at a lOSS 1 a" dertaking to decide in,. my caa w11- J estion as to the was tin or not. N t was, 1 cxpre ,seo J a Vttlrd oninion, for. I hare been of one .e iln iilil,-rt durintr WV i ers vviuiuu - j - - - - 0 - , of man hood. -And I have never yt a Baptist coald defiue, his differ.