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Hd. 2 THE WORLD : THURSDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 8, 1887. - K THE WORLD. Kt rnaar-Miivii(iv c. K THURSDAY EVENING, DECEMBER a Wf! axmscnirxiox xo xiiji xrizxiso Hr. HDIXIOlf (Including Tottagr), Hef rEJikONTU, 30c. tPEIt YEAR, $3.50. K" THE NOVEMBER RECORD. HL- Total number of " Worldi" printed daring K die month of November 188T ' 8,505,840. H' AVERAGE PER DAT FOB TUB ENTIRE Hrp MONTH, B 283,528 COPIES. K.; XOVEUDBR CIRCULATION Curing the poll Itx HV ' Vtart compared: KX MonlHy Batty Hf lS8 043,801 31,400 Ki JSS3 1,301,070 48,380 K JSS4 3,843,834 138,104 B' JXSS5 4,048,4B3 104,048 Kf MSfl 0,107,4'JO 003,880 R utr. 8,505,840 283,528 H OPEN TO ALL! bbbbbbH; ' - Bjg The Now York "World" Invito every KT Newspaper Proprietor and every Advertlier b to examine Itt Books and Presi Room to H Satisfy himself about Its Circulation. Hfr ADVERTISING KATES. HJT (Agate Mouurement.) Hr Ordinary, 23 canta per 11ns. No -extra price for ao- wW oeptabl. display. BubIdobb or Bpaclal Notlcat oppoaita K Editorial pege, AU centa per Una. Ueadlog Notlcea, H. starred or marked "Adrt."t First pace, 91.00 par Hk llnai Fourth page, 81.20 Pr llnai Inalda paia, HI L jxrlrne. Htt rattifiTa&vtTtMo ' Batty 1V0RLD da ol ap- Bk fly It i jrniv (.. A'or do Ma ralw o lAal Ht ftty MM. Mtntng JMIIIom. HL THE DAHQER IS HERE. HBt The defenders of tbo war tariff now undor- Hf take to belittlo the surplus and to represent H ' the possibility of a deflclouoy in tho near K future." H Noithor lying nor blinking will alter facts. R"p Seeretory Faucuild shows that " each Hh 7ear for twenty-two years thero has been a B surplus tho least, $2,34,000 in 1671; tho Kv' greatest, $15,643,000 in 1B82." The total Kr surplus in this time has been nearly $1,000,. Kf 000,000. The surplus last year was $103,000,- K 000. Tho surplus for tho current year will bo H& ' $110,000,000. RD Heretofore tho excess has boen applied to HBt. reducing tho debt. This channel of outlet HH)(h" was closed last July. Tho danger of accumu. HK J Utlon is upon us. HBjp ,Off with tho superfluous war taxes I Kv ME. BLAHH7B IDEAJ3. HK? ' Mr. Blaine puts tho cart boforo tho horso Hflfjj? in saying that tho President favors the roteu- Hfip tion of the internal taxes " in ordor that tho P tariff may be forced down below tho fair HB' rovenuo standard." Bkv The President would retain the remnant of BCp the internal taxes in order that tho noccssl. BBS'" ' ties of the peoplo may bo roliovcd of war BKt duties that aro no longer required cither for BBk' protection or revenue. BBfi Tho reduction proposed by tho Prosidont BBIV' would leave (he tariff higher than it uxu in BeBfi 1S63' BBK, "We agreo with Mr. Blaine that the internal BBfl tax on tobacco should bo repealed. This BBS? compromise will doubtless bo n part of any BBK'' bill framed to pass. BBB Mr. Blaine's adhesion to his old idea of BBvct distributing tho surplus among tho States, BBvf , shows on unexpected streak of Bourbonism BBK) in him. The Burplus is to bo stopped, not BBS; scattered. Hp A BULWARK OF MON0POLIE& Bfi'v What are "trusts" for? To crush com- BBflkf petition and raise prices. BBftt What makes "trusts" possible in this K country ? Tho nltitudinous war tariff. BBBf What is the limit of their extortion ? Tho BBBfr Beli-samo "vicious" tariff. The higher tho BJPJItM ax on foreign importations tho more secure P j 9 and moro profitable tho monopolies. ffl A blow at the war tariff is a blow at tho V 5 "trusts." BB, POSTAL TELEGRAPH POSSIBILITIES. BBBJp! Thelogio of ovonts certainly favors the BfK. postal telegraph. It involves no now priii- BBK?i ciple. From mall to telegraph is simply a BBSJt ' soientifie progression in mothod and not a BBM,' change of function. BBMj Privato entorprlso would nover have givon BBl& bs Uta two.ccnt postage. Monopoly will BBtt- nover bring cheap telegraphy. For a six- BbHlv', pence tho Fjiglish Government Bystcm sends BBBI,, ten words to any part of tho British Isles. BBS en cents ought to carry a similar message to K- Buy part of this country. BHH Telegraphy is in tho infancy of its useful. BBKfi nosa. Low and uniform rates would multi. BBUr ply tno business of tho wires. BBWi Put the civil service on tho right basis, and BBtr. then postal telegraphy will be a good thing ioialk.about. BBj COST AND W0UTE. BBJg When It cornea to a question of " worth," BaBjn there is no doubt that any good nowspaper is BPjv worth five cents, and an exceptionally good BHf 1 one, like The Would, a dime. BBk. The Sunday Wobls is well "worth" $1. BBjp ' It contains more and better reading than a BBup great many books that sell for that sum. HBS And yet if a good newspaper can be pro. BBjn I dnced and sold at a profit for two cents, or BR ' three cents on Sunday, why shouldn't the BBfif. publio have the benefit of tho cheapness BBKj, i warranted by an enormous circulation ? BBHf It is cost and not worth that fixes prices. BBSi IX HAS BESS TOUCHED. H J A feeble plaint is raised by an Old Whig BBff, ' . Journal, at the tall of the Democratio pro. BBH iCMHioa, to have ''tho internal revenue K" ' o0hed first'' tl BBSJyjjgskl two articles aro taxed under it tobacco and spirits. At its hoight, tho Internal system taxed nearly everything raovablo in tho coun try. It producod at its maximum $309,000,000 ayear. Last year it yioldod but $118,000,000. But tho tariff is within 1 point of tho highest war averngo. It produced Inst year over $30,000,000 moro than at tho clone of tho war. Tax luxuries oud exempt necessities is tho sound Democratio doctrine laid down ky tho President. "THE WORLD" "M0VE3 ON." This Would " movos on" again this timo onto Washington. A small army of its alert reporters laid slego to Congress. And it cap. turcd what it was aflor i. c. , tho opinions of tho mombors on tho tariff and Presidential questions. Home significant facts woro dovolopod. Tho Democrats who expressed thoinsulvcs wcro nlmost a unit in favor of tho President's recommendations. A rcasonablo compromibo measuro would probably solidify tho Demo cratic bIJo of tno IIoubo. Moro llopublicaus favored than Domocrats opposed Cleve land's ideas. Tho outlook for tariff reform decidedly brightons. But as for Mr. Blaine, woll-a-day I it looks liko a political oclipso. Only twenty-llvo Blaine Bopublicans could bo found. Somo forty Tor discreetly non-commlttnl ; seven teen were for tho Convention's nominee Tub Would " movos on," and radiates a good deal of interesting Information as it proceeds. TWI0E COURTED. Tho Chicago girl who has boen twice woood and won by tho samo lovor, becauso of a loss of all memory of the first wooing occasioned by a sorlous illness, ha? had a uniquo ex perience A great many girls are twico courted and won by tho same wooor, but it is only n lov ors' quarrel that intervenes. No well. con ditioned young woman over forgets her first wooing without tho holp of a momory.ob litcratlng illnoss. It is not recorded that tho Chicago young man objected to doing his work ovor again. CDT THE TELEPHONE RATES. The extortionate- imturo of tho Boll mono poly is very apparent from tho statistics of tho tolophono business, published for tho first timo in Tno Would this morning. Out of aggregate earnings of $10.883,BC0, tho subsidiary companies rocoivo only 7.50 por cont. on their allcgod capital. Tho parent company, charging $11 rent on every ouo of tho 311,070 instruments in uso, takes tho lion's sharo of tho profits. Protection to a patentee- docs not justify oxtortion. Tho Legislatures havo tho right to reduce- tolcphouo oharges to a roasonablo basis, and they should do so. Tho Bell peo plo should bo satisfied with a fraction of tholr 1 prosont enormous income EXTORTION NOT PROTECTION. When Mr. Blaine has road tho full text of tho President's messago ho will, boo that ho has douo Mr. Cleveland an injustice Tho President docs not objoct to " permit ting protection to result frcoly as an incident to rovenuo duties." He oxpressly says that tho tariff system " must bo continuod," and and that in ,1 tcadjustmeut " tho interests of Amorican labor should bo carefully con sidorcd, as well as tho prosorvatlon of our manufactures," though " this may bo called protection or by auy other namo." It is not incidental protection, but lntou tioual and direct extortion from tho tax. payors to which tho tariff reformers object. It is stated in tho Sun that Peteo Mitchell, " lato of Boaiip'b counsol," has boen "men. tionod" in connection with au Assistant District-Attornoyship, and that " tho know, ing ones say his chancos aro good." Jacou Shabp's chances aro gunorally boliovcd to be liko wi bo good for keeping his liborty. Tho man who stole an umbrella from a pedostrian in City Hall Park the othor day " will bo back " in fivo years. By Recorder Smith's direction ho spends tho interval in Sing Sing. , Tho President rcoommonds just what tho National Conventions of both parties solomuly pledged themselves to do, and forthwith tho entire Kcpublican press begins to howl that ho has invited bluo ruin upon tho country. " Thero aro worso things thau a surplus," says a journal that is filled with inward rngo at tho President's Messago. Yos, a war tax prolonged in the interest of monopolies is worso than tho surplus that it produces. "No ono who dislikes to pay customs duties is compelled to do so," says a war tariff organ. No, he can go to jail for smug gling. But how about sugar ? Can ho got that of any homo monopoly ? Tiie Would naturally recognizes enterprise- when it sees it, and it choorfully con cedes that the Tribune'i interviow with Mr. Blaine on the President's messago was an admirable stroko of work. Mr. Blaine's idea that " whiskey should pay for coast dofenscs " will rank him as a temperance man among distillers and a fcaloonite among tho Prohibitionists. Tint World's regiment of reporters cap. tured Washington, though other regimouts have failed. The pencil is mightier than tho bayonet. As a matter of cold fact, every reduction of the tariff mado since tho war has boen fol. lowed by a reduction in the rovenuo from customs. Tho Supremo Court has declared prohibi. tion to be constitutional. But even the Su preme Court cannot mako prohibition possi. ble. If rmyfhujiglesythanVlfperient: tariff be' " free trade," this country U going in for waaofwsaoa. ,N0 rUN TO HE A CZAR. Illll Nye'a Dlaaertnl'lon nn Home Obvloua lllaromfort of Itnrnltr. If snythluK coold reconcile tho average Ameri can boy to the fact that ha la not a Czar, It would be the lato itor of Mr. fitrskoich to the effect that Ills Imperial Majoty onco, when Czarowltch, plajnl n French obllgato to the Bnz given tijr Mine. Nilaaon, and that years alter, nhen ho had liocomo a full-blown Czar, tho orchestra allocted lilm In tears, fur It brought back the memory of that blessed timo when lio did not have to put on a ahect-lron overcoat to go out and get the morning paper. Happier Indeed wai this great man, with his French horn and his portfolio as Czaruwltch, living from hand to month, than In after years a a thirty, second degree C'zur with a mighty Kinplro undor his thumb und a fractions bomb under bla throne. Greatness brings with It nowspaper criticism, loss of appctllc, languor, cold feet and death. And even In death a great man docs not atand much of a chance, ltcllc-huntcrs come and try to break Into his grave and carry fragments of his system away to remember him by, and the histo rian criticises him to his heart's content. For this reason wo ought to apprcclato a country whoro we need not bo great If wo would rather not. A Cztr really has no alternative, llo can avoid being a Czarina by beginning In time, but when ho discovers that ho Is a Czarowltch ho knows that It Is good-by, John, as tho Russians havo It. Hero tho rules uro tors ncvore. A man may escape grcatueas lor years and years. He may bu rrusldcnt ot tho United Btatei to-day and pro moting pulletH to-morrow. The utmost latttudo Is given to an American. Ho can not only abstain from being great, bat after ho has been great, our people will excuse a man and allow him to Insert himself Into obscurity again In case ho lecls more comfortahto that way. Hut a Czar has no chance, lie really has no fun ut alL As aoon oi ho discovers that his llncago Is htgh he Is open to criticism, and cannot do anything undlgnlOcd. A Czar who woold play shortstop In a picked nine or go about tuo country delivering a humor ous lecture, would bo ostracized. Sluny along, hot summer day ho has to alay on a big red throne and reign wbllo mediocre men go flailing. Just us ho thioki ho la nlono and tales olT.his hot, crmluo trlmmed robes, thinking that he will alt In his shirt sleeves and play a few strains on his French horn, a courtier comes In and, making a low obeisance, states that ho has a ukaso which ought to bo is sued In time to catch the 1 o'clock mall. 'linn It Is dlsugrccablo for a man to bo a Czar and suddenly Uud himself tho parent of a Grand Duko whom ho don't exactly feel at liberty to spunk I No man really wants to spank u Grand Duke, no matter how little lie 13. As Americans, wo do not fully appreciate tho blesslugs of freedom which uro denied to a Czar. Czarinas also havo a pretty hard row to hoc, to uso nn Americanism. Thuy Inn c to meet nil tho social demands that aro mado upon them and entertain neighboring potentates, see that they have hot water und clean towels In their rooms whllo Isltlng at their houses, mid show them tho best places to trado while In tho city. They also ha o to havo general oversight of the chil dren, bo that their distracted country will not run short of a monarch. It Is no uncommon thing for a Czarina to say to a vliiting dyousty: " Bxcuso me a moment, Your Royal Altlloodlenm; Ills Nibs tho Grand Duke has Just Informed mo that Her Eminence the Grand Duchess, his sister, has got n Lima bean up her nose. UillNve. an WORLDLINGS. Tho Washoo Indians held a grand council near Genoa, Nov. recently und paused u law making theft punishable by death. A physician of (ulncy, 111., has Becurcd aplcco of Anarchlit I.lngg's jawuooo and placed It on ex hibition for tho lieucllt of the curious. Georgo Dnliu, u child of eight years living In Columbus, lnil.,vus bitten by a rat last (Septem ber, and has since had uiuuy symptoms of hydro phobia. Ono ot tbo allegations In a suit for divorce brought by n Jetrcraunvlllc (Ind.) bride of a year Is that her husband fulled to keep his proinlao to buy her a silk dress. A great deposit of gypsum recently discovered In Hulinboldt County, Neb., Ins been sold to asymllcatnof Kugllsh capitalists for 1 110,000. it Is istlmutcd that It will yield 10, 000,000 tons. Daniel Hullo, a planter, of Crawford County. Gu., reached tno age of ono hundtcd years last week and bids fair to live for a quarter of a ccu tury to come. Ho was a gallant soldier in tho war of ISIS. A lady of Carml, 111. , whllo combing her hair tho other e enlag, accidentally thrust the comb In u gas Jet near the mirror. The comb was of cellu loid and 11 ashed into flame like powder, setting tire to her hair uud givlug her a narrow escape lrom serious Injury. Thero Is au Interesting freak of nature at llurys vlllc, Cal., Intbeahiuro of a double-headed calf, tho two heads being set on ouo neck. Hut Ujrou, a rival California town, now looks down on Marys Ullo becauso of Its wonderful pig, which has two bodies uud one bead. A Kentucky woman who has seven sons, alt born on Sunday, has petitioned Gov. lluckncr for a pen sion. Buo says In her letter that sho Nover herd of T boys all lleau Horn on Bunday," und she thinks that such uu unexampled feat of maternity should bo properly rewarded. When au express train on the Boston and Lowell It jllroad came thundering ulong near Nashua the otlur day a trump "named Joe," who was walk lug along the toad with a comranlou, culled out: " I'm going to board that train If It kills mo." Ho did try to board It, but was thrown to tho ground and fatally Injured. A largo vault with walls ot stono and Oiled with Bkcloions o( human beings ha-i been discovered In an Indian mound which overlooks the Missouri ltivcr from a hill near Jefferson City, Me Tho skeletous aro thought to bo tbo remains ot the undent mound-builders, although tho remarkable stale of preservation In which they uro found would Indicate that they aro ot more recent date, Thomas Wudham, a veteran Northern Pacific engineer, whose death took place recently at llrslncrJ, Minn., waBnot only ono ot tho oldest locomotive engineers In tho United Mates out his life was a connecting link between tho railroading of StephenKon's timo and that of tuo present day. Ho was enulojcd In tho machine shops ut Uilatol when BlephetiHOU's "Itocket" made Its success, ful trip o or the Liverpool and Manchester road, aud a fow years later he had an engine of his own ou the Great Wistcm road, lie cuino to America about thirty j ears ugo. m p Another WnlLInu Dclosute Accused. A warrant Is ssld to bo out lor tho arrest of WalkiniCDelegate htoup, of tho Food lToducers' fceetlou of the Central Labor Union, for conspir acy In calling out the waiters employed at Nlluon Hull. '1 ho proprietor of tho hall refosed to sign a con tract with his waiters for one year, aud tuereupon uatilko wus ordered. 'Ihla Is another phase of the dlillcuity between the Walters' Uuious uud tho l'ark and Valiroom Proprietors' Auiocluilon. To Hurccrd .lliiater Workinnn Qulnn. James II Quluu'a rather checkered career as Master Workman ot District No. 49 Is a boat to close, lie has no chance of re-election, and that account tor the roanucr In w hlch ne has acted of late. There are lour candidates for his place, Includ. Ing Uoorito W. Dunne David J. Nuughton, T. bbaw and ltlchard ltawley. m a, Knlubts Against llrewrrs. It Is said that the Executive Hoard of District Assembly . has JoJne.0 th,e,.Uuw.Mc;cr' Aasocl,-, utlon of Hrootlyn In the attempt to break up the Beer Brewers' Association and boycott Leavy A Brltton because tuo Utter discharged their union BLADiKGRIES"FREETRADK.w af) lit! IS INTERVIEWED IN PAU18 ON TILE MESlDENra TARIFF POLICY. ' The Itcpubllcnli Lender Trnta Out All tbo Old Hcnrecrotm About ranicrllu AinrrU rnn I.nbor mid ltulnlng tbo farmer If tho War Tarlir I Mmllllcil-llo Would Tnkn tbo Itovenue Tux Olf Tnbnrco und Hear Down Hard ou Whiskey An Issue. (0. TV. KmaUty in Ib-l)aif Tribune 1'aiiis, Dec 7. After renting an abstract of tho President's message, laid before all Kuropo this morning, 1 saw Mr. Illalno and aiked him If he would be willing to gtvo his views upon tho recom mendation of the President In tho form of a letter or Interview. He preferred an Interview, It I would agree to send him an Intelligent shorthand reporter, with such questions as should givo free scope for nn expression of his vlcns. Tho follow. Ing lucld,nnd powerful statement Is tho result. Mr. Illalno began by saying to the reporter: " I havo been reading an abstract of tho Presi dent's message and havo been especially Interested In the comments of tho London pipers. Those papers all assumo to declare tbo message is a free irado manifesto and evidently uro anticipating an enlarged market for English fabrics In the, United Btatci as a conscquenco ot tho President's recom mendations. Perhaps that fact stamped tho char acter ot tho messago more clearly thua any words of inlnocan." You don't mean actual frco trade without duty 7" queried the rerortcr. "No," replied Mr. Blaine. "Nor do tho Lon don papers mean that. They simply mean that tho President has recommended wuat In the United Ststis Is known as a rovenuo turlrf, rejecting tho protective fcuturo as au object and not even per mitting protection to result freely as an Incident to rcrcuuo duties." " I don't know that I qulto comprehend that last point," said the reporter. "I mean," said Mr. Maine, " that for tho first time In tho history ot tho United States tho Presi dent recommends retaining the Internal tax In or der that tho tariff may be forced down even below the fair rovenuo standard, lie recommend) that the tax on tobacco be retained, and thus that many mlllluca annually shall bo levied on a do mestic product which would far better come from a tariff on foreign fabrics." the tobacco tax should hk hei-salid. "Then do you mean to imply that you would favor the repeal of tho tobacco tax 7" "Certa'nlyj I mean Just that," said Mr. Blalno. I should urge that It he dona at once, even be fore tho Chrlftmuji holidays. It would In tho first place bring great relief to growers ot tobacco nil otertho country, and would, moreover, materially Ussen the price of tho nrtlclo to consumers. To bacco to millions ot men Is u necessity. Tho Presi dent calls It a luxury, but It Is a luxury In no other sense than ten and oolite aro luxuries. It la well to remember that tho luxury ot yesterday becomes n nccesilty of to-day. Wutch, If you plense, tho number of men at work on tno (arm, In tho coal mine, along the railroad, In the Iron foundry, or In auy calling, and you will find S3 In ino chewing whllo they work. After each meal tho samo proportion seek tho solace of a pipe or a cigar. Theso men not only pay tbo millions ot tho tobacco tax, but pay an every plug nud every cigar au enhanced price which tho tax enables tho manufacturer and retailer to Impose. Tho only excuse lor such n tux Is the actual necessity uiultr which tho Government found Itself during tho war, nud the years Imme diately loliowlng. To retain tbo tax now In order to destroy tho piotcctlon which would Incidentally flow from rul-jlitg tho sumo amount of money on foreign imports is certainly a most extraordinary policy for our Government." Till: WlllSKF.V tax should HE uktaixku. " Well, then, Mr. Maine, would ou advlso tho repeal ot tho whiskey tux also7" " No, I would not. Other consideration? than thoso of lluinclal administration aro to bo taken Into account with regard to whiskey. There Is a moral sldo to It. To cheapen the price of whiskey Is to Increase Its consumption enormously. There would be no seuso In urging tho reform wrought by high license In many .Stales it the National Gov eminent neutralizes tho good effect by making whiskey within resch of every ouo at W ccuts a gallon. Whiskey would bo everywhere distilled It tho surveillance of trie Govcrmcut were withdrawn by the remission of the ta, nnd Illicit sales could not then be prevented oven by a policy as rigorous and searching as that with which Russia pursues tho Nihilists. It would destroy high license at onco In all tho States. WHISKEY B1IOULU PAT FOn COAST nCFCNCES. Wnlskey has done a vast deal of hurm In the United Situte. I would try to mako it do some good. I would use tbo tux to fortify our cities on tho seuboard. In lew of tho powcrtul lctlor addressed to tho Democratio pirty on tho subject of fortifications by tho lato Mr. Bamuel J, Tllden, lu 1S8S, I urn amazed that no attention has been paid to tho subject by tho Democratic Administra tion. Neer betoro In tho history of tho world has any government allowed great cities ou the seaboard, liko New York, Philadelphia, Boston, Baltimore, New Orleans und San Francisco to re main absolutely del- ucclras." IN TIME OK l'KACBS I'llEPAllB FOIt WAll. "But, "said tho reporter, "you don't tklnkwc aro to havo war in any direction! " "Certainly not," said Mr. Blaine. "Neither, I presume, did Mr. Tllden when ho wroto his rc uiarkab.o letter. Hut wo should change a remote chance Into un ubsoluto Impossibility. Hour weak and exposed points wero sirongiy fortttied. If to day wo had by any chance even such a wur us we bad with Mexico our enemy cnnld procure Iron clads In Kuropo that would mesneo our great nitira with dcatmctlou or lar them under contri bution." ' But would not onr fortifying now possibly look as it wooxpected wsrf " " Why should It any more than the formications made seventy or eighty years 'ago by our grand fathers when they guarded themselves against succoisful attack from the armaments of that day? We don't necesaarlly expect a burglar because we lock our d ore at night, but It by any possibility a burglar comes It contributes vastly to our peace of mind and our sound sleep to ltd that he can't get In." HOUSES AND FAHU8 TAT TOO MUCH TAX, " But alter tho fortification should bo con slructed would you still maintain tho tax ou whlskeyj" Yes," aald Mr. Blaine, "so long as there Is whiskey to tax I would tax It, and when the Na tional Government should have no uie for the money I would divide tho tax among the members of tho Federal Union with tho spcclflck-bjcct of lightening the tax ou real estato. Tnc houses nnd farms of the whole country pay too largo a propor tion of the total taxes. If ultimately relief tould be given In that direction It would, lu my judg ment, be a wlso snd beneficent policy. Home honest but misguided friends of temperance hao urged that the Government should not use the money derived from tho tax on whiskey. My reply la that tho tax on whiskey by tho Federal Govern, mint, with lis suppression of all illicit dl.tlllatlon sndconseqent enhancement of price, has been a powerful agent In the temperance reform by put ting it beyond tbo reach of so many. Tho amount ot whiskey consumed In the United Staled per capita to-day Is not moro than 40 per cent, of that consumed thirty yoira ago." " Besides your gcueral and sweeping opposition to the President's recommendation, havo yon any further spccitlo objection ;" Yea," answered Mr. Blaine; "I should seriously object to tho repeat of the duty on wool. .To repeal that vould.work great injustice, o mny Interests and would seriously dlscourago what we should earnestly encourago, namely, the sheep emtwo among farmers throughout tho Union.. To break down wool-growing and be dependent on foreign countries for the blanket under which wo sleep and the coat that covers our backs, Is not a wlso policy for tho National Government to en force." TDK OLD BCOABOO. " Do you think It the President's recommenda tion was adopted It would increoso onr export trBdcj" " Possibly lu some few articles of pccnlar con structlou It might, but It would Increase our Im port trade tenfold ns much In Iho great staple falx rlcs, In woollen aud cotlon good, lu Iron, In steel, lu all tho thuusind and one shapes u which they are wrought. How aro we to export staple fabrics to the markets ot Kuropo unless wc make them cheaper llun they do In Enrol e, and how arc wo to manufacture them cheaper than they do in Kutnpc, unless wo get cheaper labor than they have In Europe J' "Then you think that the question of labor un derlies tho whole subject:" "Of courso It dots," replied Mr. Blaine. "It Is, In fact, tho cutlro question. Whenever we can forco carpenters, !un"otn, Ironworkers and mechanics In every de partment to work as cheaply nud live as poorly In tho United States us similar workmen in Kurope, we can, of course, manufacture just us cheaply us they do In Kligland and France. But I um totally opposed to a policy that would entail such re sults. To attempt It Is equivalent to asocial nud financial revolution, ono that would bring untold distress." " Yes, but might not tho great farming class be bcnciltcd by Importing articles from Europe In stead ot buying them at higher prices at home?" "Tho moment," answered Mr. Blaine, "yon begin to Import freely fio:u Europe you dr.vo our own workmen from mcchuulcul nnd manufactur ing pursuit;. Hi the same t roportlon they betoino tillers of tho soil, Increasing steadily tho agri cultural product and dicrcuslm: steadily the large homo demand which Is constantly enlarging ns homo manufacturers enlarge That of course, works great Injury to tho farmer, glutting tho market with his prodncts and tending constantly tolowerprlcess. " TIIYINO TO ECAltK THE FAHJ1KHS. " Yes, but tho foroign demand for farm products would t.o Increased In like ratio, would It not?" ' Even suppose It were," said Mr.Blolne, "how do you know tho source from which It will be sup plied. The tendency In ltuisla to-day uud lu the Asiatic po.jscBslous of England Is toward a largo luereaso of the grain supply, the grain being raised by the clie-npjit po-slblo labor. Manufacturing couutrlis will buy their breaelstufTs where they can get them cheapest, uud the enlarging of the home market for the American fanner being checked, he would search In vuln for oneot the same value. His foreign sales are already checked by tho treat competition abroad. There never was a time when tho mcreoBO of a large homo market wus so valu able to 111 in. Tno best proof Is that tho farmers are prospeious lu proportion to the nearness of mauu rnctiir.ng centres, aud u protective tariff tcuds to spread manufactures. In Ohio and Indiana, for example, though not.. classed ih manufacturing Mates, tho annual value of fabrics is larger thau tho unnunl value ot agricultural products." At this point Mr. limine entered into au explana tion of tho low tariff of 1SI0 and Its results, claim ing that its temporary Illusory prosperity was fol lowed by jearB of depression und distress. "It la remarkable, " said .Mr. Blaine, "that President Polk recommended tho tariff of 1W6 on precisely the same ground that President Cleveland recom mends a similar enactment now, namely, the Bar plus lu the Treasury wus menacing tno prosperity of iho country. History Is repealing Itself." UK WOULD MAKE NO C1IANUE. The interview continues: " Do j ou mean lo imply that thero should bo no reduction of thu national roecnuo?" "No, wiintlhavo said Implies tho reverse. I would reduce It by u prompt repeal of tho tobacco tax, aud would mako hero and thero somo chaugos lu tho tariff not to roJuce protection, but wisely foster It." " Would you explain your meaning more fully?" "I moan," Bald Mr. Maine, 'that no great system of rovenuo like our tariff can operate with ell'iclency and equity uulc.-s tbo changes of trado be closely watched and thu law promptly adapted to those change. But I would mako no change that should Impair the protective character of tho whole body of tho tariff laws. Four years ago, In the net of 1S53. wo made chaugos of thu character I have tried to Indicate. It such chuuges wcro made, and the fortification of our seacOdBt thus undertaken at a very moderate annual outlay.no surplus would bo found after that ulreudy accumu lated hud lie-en disponed of. Tho outlay ot money on fort 111 cat lens, whllo doing great scrvlco to tho cuuntry, would give good work to many men.'' But vhat nbout tho exlstlog suiplus?" ' Tno ubsiract ot tlu message I havo keen, "re plied Mr. Blaine, ' contains no referenco to that point. I, therefore, make!' no comment further thau tu Indorse Mr. Fred Grant's remark that a surplus Is nlwaj s easier to naud.e than u deficit. " l'OSSIULE EFFECT OF 111K l'KKSIIlKNT'S l'OLICV. The icporier repealed the question whether tho President's recommendation would not, If adopted, glee ub iho udtautugoof a largo Increase In ex ports. 'I only repeat, "answered Mr. Blalno, "that It would vastly cularco our Imports, whllo the only export It would Berlously increase would be our gold aud silver. Tnat would flow out bounteously, just as It did under tho tariff of 116. Tho Presi dent's recommendation enacted Into law would re sult, us dl I nu cxperlinout lu drslnago of a man who wlidicd to turn a swamp Into a productive Held. Ho dug n drain to a neighboring river, but It happened, unfortunately, that tho level of the river was higher than tho level of tho swamp. Tho consequence need not be told. A parallel would bo found wheti the President's policy In attempt ing to open a channel tor an Increase of exports should slmplr succcod In making way tor a delug ing Inflow ot fabrics to the destruction of homo In dustry. " OUH OWN MARKET FOB OUU OWN PEOrLE. " But don't you think It Important to Increase our export trade?" " Undoubtedly ; but It Is vastly more Important not to losu our own great market for our own people In the vain effort to rcaca tho Impossible. It Is not our foreign trade that has caused the wonderful growth and expansion of tho Itepubllc It Is tho vast domestic trade between thirty-eight States and e ght Territories, with tholr population of, perhaps, (VJ, 000, 000 lo-oar, Tho whole amount of our export und Inn ort trade together has never, I think, reached $1,500,000,000 auy ouo year. Our Internal homo traJo on 130, OiO miles of railway, along 15, W0 iriles ot ocean coast, over the live great lakes nud along 20,000 miles of navigable rivers, reaches the enormous annual aggrcguto ot moro Hun Jto, ooo.iXk), 0 00, and perhaps this yoar $j0,tsj0,0ti0,(i00. ii.iism.eiar: free tradx'at noun. " It Is Into this llllniltuble trade, even now In Its Infancy aud destined to attain a magnitude not dreamed of twenty years ago, that tho Europeans nre struggling to enter. It la the hertlageof tho American I eoplc, of their children and their chll elreu's children. It gives au absolutely frco trade over a territory nearly as large as all Europe, and tho profit Is ull our own. The genuine Iree trader appeals nnablo to see or comprehend that this con.liuiitnl trade not our exchanges with Europ-. Is the great source of our pro.perlly. President Cleveland now plainly proposes a policy that will admit Europe to a share of this trade." A NEW I'Ol.ITlCAL ECONOMY NXEDtiD. " But you are In favor of extending our foreign trade, are you not?" " Certainly I am, In all practical and advantage ous ways, but not on the principle of tbe free traders, by which wo shall be constantly exchang ing dollar for dime. Moreover, Iho foreign trade Is often very delcslvc. Co'.ton Is manufactured in the city ot my residence. If a box ot cotton goods Is scut, $op mljes lo thel'rovlnce of Now Brunswick, It Is foreign trade.' 'if 'shipped' iT.WmlVc's round Cape Horn to Washington Territory It Is domestic rade, Tho magnitude ot the Union and tbo 1m- a2fi()BJBy,avs trills iri'iiHffarV-Aa4i.iwii!!yiA, menslty of Its Internal trade rqalro a new political economy. Tho treatises wtltten for European Btatcs do not grasp our peculiar situation." THINKS THE FOUTIt NEEDS rnOTKCTION. "How will the President's messngd bo taken In the South ?" " I don't dare to answer that ques tion. 1 ho truth has been so long obscured by cer tain total questions of unreasoning prejudice that nobody can hope for Industrial enlightenment among tholr leaders Just yet. But In my view the South abote all sections of tho Uulo'i needs a pro tet'tno tariff. Tno tno Virginias, Norm Carolina, Kentucky, Missouri, Tenncsico, Alabama and Georgia havo enormous resources and facilities for developing and handling manufactures. They cannot do anything wltliout protection. Even progress so vaetassomcof these Slates have made will bo checked if tho President's mesmgo fs en acted Into law. Their Sonators and Representa tives can prevent It, but they are so used to follow Ing anything labelled ' Democratic 'that very prob ubly tney will follow tho President nnd bl'ght the progress already made. By tho timo somo of the Southern States get Irto Iron oro nnd coal, whllo tobaeco Is taxed, they may havo occu-lon to sit down and calculate the valao of Democratic tree trade to their local Interests. " THE FALLACY OF A1IU1TTINO HAW MATERIAL. " Will not tho President's recommendation to admit raw mater. al Snd strong support?" "Not by wlie protectionists In our lime. Per hnps some greedy inaunfa Hirers may think that wltn tie) coal or free iron oro they can do great things, but It they should succeed In trying will, us the boys say, culch it nn tho rebound. If tho homo trado In raw material Is destroyed or seri ously Injured railroads will bo tho first to feel It. If that vast Inti rest Is crippled In uny direction the financial fabnoof tho whole country wll fed It quickly nnd serlouslr. II uny man can give a rea son why we should nrranje tho tariff to favor the raw material ot other countries In a competition against our material ot tho samo kind, I should like to bear It. shoulJ that recommendation of tho Presldtnt bo approved It would turn 100,000 American laborers out of employment beforo It had been a year in operation. " A I-ULL AND FAIR CONTEST ON TUE ISSUE. "What must bo the marked and general effect of t'uo President's messnge ?" "It will bring tho country where It ought to be brought to n lull nnd fair contest on the question of protection. The President himself makes It the one Issuo by presenting no other In his mes sage. 1 think It well to have the question settled. The Democratic party m power Is n standing men ace to the Industrial prosperity of the country. That menaco should be removed or tho policy It foreshadows should bo mado certain. Nothing Is so mischievous to business as uncertainty, nothing so paralyzing as doubt. " BRIEF OLIMPSES OF SOCIETY. The marriage of Mr. Harry Footc Ilodces, of tho Engineer Con s of tho United States Army, und Miss Alma Key nolds took place at the home of the bride's aunt, Mrs. Slocum, ST Kist Slxty-Ufih street, at noon to-day. The ltev. Parker Morgan, rector of tho Church ol the Heavenly ltcst, ofllclatcd. Tho wcddlng-gowa was ot French faille, made with triln and V-corsage, with full front trimming of point lace. The tulle veil was fnsicncd with diamond pausles, tho gift of the groom. Bhe carried a bouquet of lilies of tho val ley. Miss Mary ltcynolds was the inald of honor. Tho best man was Mr. Clair Hodges, of Boston, a brother of tho iiroom. There were no briacsmaids or ushers. Miss Lcdyard nnd Miss Olivia Slocum held whlto ribbons to form an aisle. Tho bride anil groom Hood during tho ceremony under n canopy of smilux, from which a bell huug. Among the numerous frtcnJs who attended tho rccept.on weto: Gen. Sherman, Mis. Hodges und the Messrs. aud Misses Hodges, of Boston; Dr. Hodges, of Indianapolis; Mrs. Ledynrd, Dr. Gruyon, Mis. K. S. E'lloinmedleu, Gen. Buggies, Mr. and Mrs. Everett 1. Wheeler, MUs Wheeler, Col. and Mrs. Hodges, Mr. Wlckhnm, Mrs. I'ostlethwullc, Mrs. Post, Miss Post, Mrs. II. II. Baxter, Lieut. 11. C. Hodges, Miss Roberts, Mr. and, Mrs. John W. Ellis, I.'.cut. C. I. Townsley, Mr. and Mrs. Kussell Sage, CoL McAlplne and Lieut. John Mlllls. Tho wedding of Sir. Warren Ward Brooks and Mhs Elizabeth Sklllman, daughter ot Mr. J. P. Sklllinau, will take placo this evening nt 8 o'cIock at the. West I'roibyiorlun., Church. Tho Iccv. Dr. Paxtou will officiate. The brldo will wear a white moire gown with train, Iront draperies of duchesse lace, V corsazo and elbow sleeves. Tho tulle veil wilt be fastened with diamonds. Tuo diamond pendant worn was a gilt from her father. Sho will carry a bouquet of roses and lilies. Miss Virginia Leeds will bo the maid of honor. Mlas Kitty llosl wlck nud Miss Delia Barker w 111 be tho hrldcsmnl 's. Mr. EJwnrd Murray will be the best man. Messrs. Henry Sklllman, Edward Ellsworth Charles Itouss, G. Berckmans, Georgo F. Hlnton and Hawley Clapp w 111 bo the iithcrs. A reception will follow the wedding nt tho homo of tho bride's parents, 5el West Forty-ninth street. Mr. Henry Schncfer and Miss Mnrle F. Charlock will bo married at a. SO o'clock this afternoon at-tho Church of tho Heavenly Best. The ltev. Parker Morgan will officiate. The bridal gown will bo of while tulle over French faille, wltn V corsage. Tho tulle veil will bo fastened with diamond pins. Sno will carry whllo rosebuds nnd lilies of the vul'ey. Miss Estcllo C. Ogdcn will be the maid of honor. There will bo no bridesmaids. Mr. Herbert Seymour will bo tho best man. Mr. Victor Phillips nud Mr. Jiar.es I- Ogdcn, Jr., will bo tho ushers. Mrs. 8. B. Schtcffc'.ln, ot 9&S Madison uvenno, will glvo threo largo receptions, as she has for scv cial years past, ou threo succeisivo days. Tho first will bo this afternoon, when Mrs. Cbapln and Mlsa Ethel Dodgo will aBslst tn receiving. Satur day's reception will be for young people. Mrs. John Wells, of 11 West Ninth street, will givo a tea this afternoon. Mrs. Abram 8. Hewitt, of 9 Lexington avenue, will elvc n recepllon In January In honor of Mr. and Mrs. Peter Cooper Howltt. Tne Governor of New Jcrsoy will gtve'the first of two receptions this afternoon at his home In Eliza beth, N. J. Mrs. J. E. Martin, of 42 Eist Sixty-second strocf, will glvo a reception on Saturday afternoon. Mrs. Ittlph Brandreth will give a theatre party, followed by a supper and donco at the Normandlc, this evening. Tbe engagement of Mr. E. Bobbins Walker and Miss Pcarsall, daughter of Thomas W. Pcarsall, Is announced, A fair lu aid of aged women will be held In tho ballroom of the Brunswick to-dey and will con ttnuo until Saturday evening. It Is under the patronage of Mrs. Thomas Butter and other prominent ladies. Tho ltev. and Mrs. Philip A. II. Brown, of East Twclfih street, will give a reception to-day to In troduce MUs Carter. The Marion Clnb will glvo a "sociable" to morrow evening ut tho home or Mr. F. Brevoort Allln, 114 West Fifty-ninth street, Mrs. c. H. Day, of 420 Madison avenue, will give an afternoon reception to-day, followed by a dance In tho evening. Tho Manhattan Athletic Club will glvo a ladles' day and muslcale this afternoon from 2 to o'clock. The Elba Amiunl Ncanlon. Tho Grand Lodgo of tho Benevolent Protective Order ot Elks, representing more than seventy five lodge, from all parts of tho United States, will hold Its annual session at Masonic Temple, Twenty-thud atrect nud Sixth avenue, on Sunday, Dec. 11. On account of the Matouia fair in the Temple the Grand Lodge will reconvene on Mon day, Dec 12, at Clarendon Hall, lit! East Thir teenth street, and comnlcto Its labors. Judaro Unpnllo Ntlll Very III. Judge ltspallo continues to bo a pretty sick man, . although bis condition has Improved, .slightly since tho flrit day of his Illness. Ills physician said this morning that he passed a comf eirtublo night and this morning was no worse., hfi11MlfiyaSBiysMfc'ito'?sSsll'',ra CAN AFFORD TO COMPETE. " Bi- IIOW GOVERNMENT MUSICIANS CUT DOWN THE SCALE OP PK1CES. -. A Ther Aro Allowed to Inrrcimo Their Pnv bv l'layliiK Inr Prlvnle und Public lintcrtnln- r.( iiicntH The .llnttrr In Ho Hronahl llcioro tho Premnl Cointreau hr Iho Nntlonrel I.ennuo of IMuslclnnn Manr C'omplnlnta. About two years ago tho Musical Mutual Protective Uniou of this city created a bcuso. tion through its counsol, Hointio King, by V tlcnuiiidiiig of Secretary Whitney tho with. t! dinwnlof tho MnrinoBnutl of tho United States steninor Now Hmiipsltiro from tho Newport Cnsino, from which J. M. Lander nml Ids orchestral members of tho Musical - Union lmel been disclinrccil by tho Casino : governors for economical reasons. ' Appropos of tlmt oflort on tho part of tho l executive officers of tho Musical Union to put ,, u btop to tho competition of tho enlisted naval " nud nnny musicians with tho citizen musi cians, u 'great tlenl of discussion has sinco arisen, nnd musicians nil over tiio country linvo communicated iidditionnl gricv niicci wising out of tho employ- k luent of tho nnvnl and military bands ' to tho expulsion of tho civil organiza tions mid individuals'. Tho matter hns becoino of such serious importnnco that it ) lues been tnkcii in liar.d by tho National ngiio of MuRicinnH. nud that body will en- dcitvor, through regularly nppointed dclo- r gales, to bring tho nuttier betoro Congress t! nt the present session with n view townrei ob- i tulning such legislation ns will put an end to tho competition complained of. A prominent member of tbo Musical Union, who wns on tho Executivo Board whon tho Newport nlliiir ciiuio up nnel who wfis also a dalegato to tho National Lenguo Convention, held Inst March in Chicago, wiid to a Would reporter to-day: ' It is not bo much nbout tho moro employ, mont of tho military nnd nnvnl bands that wo complain, but tho inct that thoy play at ratca much below thoso of tho citizen musicians. This cnttiug under our figures by men who uro in tho employ of tho Government and o aro feel nnel clothed nnel sheltered out of tho funds paid in taxeH by tho citizens has become intolerable and must bo stopped by somo means, "Wo havo complaints from Washington, St. Louis, Snu Finuuisco nud right hero nt home. Tho Brooklyn Nnvy-Ynrd Band, con trolled by Luciano Contemn nud sous, ad vertise in n local newspaper for business nnd have, of courso, n decided ndviintngo in com peting with our members for engagements outside of tho Nnvy-Ynrd. "Tho Fort Hamilton Military Band has also tilled many privnto nnd publio en gn;ciuents nt rates below thoso which we can afford to play for. "Tho United States Army Military Dopot Bnnel nt David's Islnnd also hns been putting in its timo nud music to tho tiisadvnntngo of our members. "Bnudinactcr Fred tcr Linden, now at West Point, led thu David's Island Baud on tho occasions referred to. Lnltorly ho has employed tho West Point Band in perform ing nt publio nnd privato plnces, notably Inst October during tho liremcn's parado at Youkois. " Tho Government authorities pormit this sort of competition in order to increase tho pay of tho army and navy musicians, who ro ccivo but smnll pay from tho Govommout. " At Webt Point n first-class musician gets 831 n month and ono ration n day ; socond class, -20 nnel a ration, uud third-class, 817 and n ration. Tho leader at West Point is not nu enlisted man. " Men of other precessions, trades nnd vnri. ous vocations, who nroiuthu nrinv and navy, aro not, permitted to perform work in compe tition with civilians, a regulation expressly prohibiting it. Why should tho enlisted musicians bo oxccptoel from thorulof" riiAQOE OP THE PH0DIGIES. An Alnriulng Increase In the Supply ot Children Willi JUuaicnl (icnlim. Frnnk L. Pcrloy, Low Dockstnder'B now mnuager, took n big responsibility upon his shoulders when ho advortiscel for n musical prodigy. Sinco Mr. Perloy's elcsiro has been known tho highways nud tho byownys havo bwarmed with prodigies, nnd " a plnguo of prodigies " ns irulout ns tho ancient invasion eif frogs nnel locusts linvu been threatened. Mr. 1'erley devoted himself yesterday to reading letters nnel examining photographs. Ilo took brief intervals for refreshments, but his toiriblo tusk diminished his appetite. Ho was a wretched man. Hero was a loiter ho rccoived from Nowark: Ithlnk my llltlo boy Willie Is Just the boy you want. He is Just 11 years old ami I don't consider lrtlattery to say that hcpIavB Just as well as people tell mo Hoffmann plays. I um sure it was not neccssury to go to Europe to get a musical prodigy utter hearing my boy play. This camo from tho National Hptel, Bow ery. In looking over The Wored I noticed your ad. for a musical prodigy. 1 cldlm to be a masloal prodigy. My line In music do not lay in the piano or otuer Instrument of torture, but In singing. I uuve a beatllul base voice. If you heard mo ting "Sweet Vlolels"or "Tno Last Hoso of Summer" you would wlsa li was planted o'er my grave. You can refer to mr neighbors wnollvo three or lour blocks awny. AU others have moved, so tney remarked my volco was heavenly and should bo heald only there. Olio applicant signed himBolf Campanini O'ltourkey. Hero is a letter that camo from tho Now lork Juvenile Asylum: Enclosed please Und picture ot my little daughter Gusdc, tho largest ot two. bhe Is tcu years, can Imitate dlucult inusla on the p.ano by car. I don't think her equal Is In this couolry. Her bulr la short, oan bo parted on ono side, nnd dressed In boy's clothes it necessary. Can be seen at my house alter school hours. Mr. Perley pointed to this effusion 1 havo read your ndvertleincnt regarding a ran. slcal prodigy Impersonating Joser llofmann. I beg to bta'o that I have a brother 14 years of age who equals llofmann In playing nnd surpasses him In Improvising. Ho is u composer and made his urst uppearanco In publio at the age of seven years. " Tho next thing to bo done," said Mr. Perley, Bolemnly, ns ho wijied the dews from his from his forehead, "is to advertise for children who nru not prodigies. I cannot beliovo that I Bhould rocoivo any answers." Tho Trinity Kvcnlnn School. Miss Florence Brady has been elected president ot tho Excelsior Literary Association of Trinity Evening School. This school is held at 90 Trinity ptneo and U entirely free. It la virtually a high school for tho lower pirtol tho city. There are classes In German, telegraphy, short-hand, pen. mausnlp, aritlimcllo and bookkeeping. Thu sea. slousare from T.sotoo.sor. it. Cleraea for girls are held Monday, Wrdnesday and Friday even lugs; lor boys, Tuesday, 1 hursday and Saturday evenings. Bcv. Dr. G. II. Stirling is principal nud l'rof. Hcndrlckson, l'rof. Huff and Prof. Lamsou, assistant leacuera. I.nellea' I)nr nt the nin.nhn.ttnn Athletic. ' The handsome Fifth avenue home of the Man hattan Athletic Clnb was thronged with fair Iriendi ot Iho members this afternoon. There was an en Joyubln entertainment. In which Harry Paulton, Alice J. Shaw, Blir. Brncollnl, II. A, Kundson, W. I). Hobtrtsou, Kitty Bcrgcr, Joseph Uaworth. J. Allen l'reiscn, A. M. Bagley, Isaao Weasel and oihois asalated. m Kept Alive by HI Iron Will. Major IUggcrty's pluck and endurance bare stood him In good stead for tho past three weeks. His physician roports that but for his Iron will he wouiu havo died long ugo. Tbe condition of Major Haygerty was considerably improved when a Would reporter called at the house this morning, and tho family feel very ranch encouraged by tuo change. The Nnvy-Ynrd Inquiry. The Inquiry Into the sale ot old material at tho Havy-Yarel was continued In the Lyceum Building at 10. SO o'clock this morning. Toe hearing waC r private. Thus tar tbo examination of witnesses fas been the only thing done.