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RYAN AND TELEPHONE LAWYER GAVE SULZER COjOO IN CASH
Speculators Openly Sell World's Series Tickets
WKTHr.R-liMlllf4 to-alaso mmd Tweegay.
WKtTIIKtl-t.Tassl.lea to-alaM mm Taeegay.
I EDITION.
PRICE ONE CENT.
OH, KB! THE SPECULATORS
GOT HOLD OF THE TICKETS
FOR WORLD SERIES, BUT HOW?
m
Amies E. Gaffney, Owner of
the Bostons, Tells of Trick
Played on Him.
HUCES GET A BOOST.
Giants' Secretary Makes De
nial, but There's the Proof
That Sale Is On.
Just to show that resrrveo: seat
ticket (or the world's series are In ,
the hands of speculators and are be
ing ttoid at exorbitant prices, James
K. Gaffney of New York, owner and
President of the Boston National
League Club, sent out to-day and
bought from a ticket speculator sib
teen tickets for the series for whiol
he paid $"" apiece. Kach ticket It
Rood for three K.imee of the series
in New York and the regular price of
such a ticket is $9.
Mr. Uaffuey was impelled to tills
action by the fact that his request
for forty-seven sets of tickets, good
for three games in New York, was
turned down. With his request to
the New York Baseball Club Mr.
Gaffney ln'-losed $428, the total prlca
at $9 a ticket. Me wanted the tick
ets for the members of the Boston
National League team and some
friends.
"They tott me." said Mr. OafTney,
Hint there was such a demand from
baehll people t couldn't iret what I
wanted That statement amased me.
GAFFNEY KNOWS THE ROPES.
"I told Harry Hempstead, President
of the Mew York club, that 1 had lived
in New York too long not to know the
wave of ticket speculators. I assured
him there were plenty of tickets In
speculators' hands, lie said a scattered
few ticket might have reached specula
ton, but Indignantly dtn led that there
was any general traflfc In reserved
seats.
'1 have lust etient IMS) n show t know
I was talking shour The tickets!
I have were all nought at the agency In
iiie Cadillac Hotel by men who lust
waike.i in and bought and paid for them,
"Now, If they want to check up who
is selling their tickets I'll give them the
numbers of season tickets that were
bought for inc. T iev are l is and 17 for
the tlrst gain, 1) 13 anil 14 for the sec
ond k-anie, anil ! 17 and It the third
game. If they have the name of the
man or men who bought these tickets at
13 each they might ssk him what lie got
for them from Hie speculators.
"I am going to furnish these numbers
anil a I the other numbers to the Na
tional Cnmmlalon an.i I'm going to do it
personally anil In S lOUg, SSI phalli tone
of voice. 1 am going to nk Harry Herr
mann and President Lynch and Han
Johnson how it OomSS fiat the owner of
a major league club li turned down
when he asks .'or 17 -eats at III each
and then sends, out anil buys 111 seats at
150 apiece, the name gl if he was buy
Ing peanuts. I could buy all 1 wanted,
hut I think my expenditure of $ Is
enough to prove my point "
TWO DOLLAR SEATS ALSO WITH
SPECULATORS.
The Evening World was Informed this
afternoon by several persons who aic
thoroughly reliable that quantities of
the I? unreserved seat llckets, which
sre supposed to iM resting In the New
York BaiebaJI ClUb strong boxes, guard
d like gold or pi'SoloUS stones, were
on sale in the Wall slice! and Tender
loin districts. Speculators. The gjvenlng
World Informants saldi were getting n
a piece for these W tickets.
In the limited tints "t hand The Eve
ning World was unable to g''t hold of
sny or these tickets. Hut If it is true
that (hi New York. Bajwball '':un na"
allowed even one of ibeoi to get Into
a speculator's hands His ' constitutes,
a n i ne against a patient public For
these me the tickets lh.it are to he sol I
to the wallers in line to-inorrow morn
ing, (itul the rl"de of the New York
Club is thai they be sold without re-
.icoutiuu.d on tjecood rage.) 1
Cejirrlxht. inia. by
Co. ITbe New
BASEBALL MAGNATE
WHO SAYS SCALPERS
CORNERED TICKETS.
JAMES E.SAfPHLY-
COOMBS TO GET
REPORT OF SERIES
BYTELEPHONE
Athletics' Pitcher in Hospital
and Will Have Phone at
His Bedside.
nin..PKi.rinA. Oct I. Walls his
teammates of the .t-iietic rj (tinting
for the "hnmplonsMlp. Jictc Pi omha,
"Iron man'' and their IdfL will be v(ng
In a hospital with fourteen pounds ,vf
lead on Sach foot an I un eight-pound
weight on his head, dragging h s verte
brae apart. By his bwlslJl BR1 sit the
pltciier's wife, telephono In hand, end
she will detail to dim the great butties,
play by play,
"tio to see at least one or two of the
games," 'iomb urged his wife. "Your
being here can't help to drain typhoid
poison nut of my system."
"1 can't do It. Jack," was her reply.
"The ti'iim wouldn't look like the Ath
letics to me .inless you were there."
Prlendl of Mack's great pltcner, who
told of his condition '.o-duy. said his
relapse had punctured one of the Ath
letics' most cherished Phi ns. When the
team was In a slump, It was Saldi Mack
had his "Iron man," then partially re
covered from his typhoid attack, get
Into a uniform for the moral effect on
his teammates, every one of whom Is
his chum.
The dan worked and the Athletics
etarted to win. Taught by this, It la
said, Mack plenned to make I'oomhx
the dark horse of the championship
tight, but just as nil arrangementx were
completed to have him secretly round
Into form again the relapse ' .line and
the plan was off,
AVIATOR STARTS FLIGHT
FROM ALBANYTO NEW YORK
AI.HANY. (lot ti. -He -kwith Havens
left here for Ne York in his flying
boat at Let
He expects to cover the dietance In
about u couple of hours
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BRIDE-ELECT KILLS
SELF WHEN FICKLE
Girl Fires Fatal Shot After
Taunting Boys Sing "Wait
ing at the Church."
DIES WITH WHITE ROSE.
Floral Symbol of Purity Rests
on Body of Maiden Who
Loved in Vain.
The thoughtless gibes of small boys
who entertstned themselves poking fun
st the girl over the unhappy ending of a
brief girlish romance was the direct
cause of the suicide of elghteen-yesr-old
Clara Courier, who shot herself deed In
her fsther'e home. In Belleville, N. J.,
last evening. This was revealed by In
vestigation to-day that developed the
additional fact that little less directly
the Jilting of the young girl played an
important part In her determination to
end her life.
Little Miss Courier's home Is at No.
Brighton avenue, Belleville, which le
In the oho section of tho town, and
throughout that part of Helevllle she
enjoyed great popularity. She was em
ployed at the tYestlnghouse electrical
factory in Ampere. About two weeks
ago there came Into her life a man
somewhat older than the girl. How
or where she met the lever whose
short courtship was to end so
tragically Is not clsar. His name, ac
cording to the girl's family, was Bobert
Edwards and It was understood that
he waa employed by the Pennsylvania
Railroad and that he lived In Phila
delphia. GIRL'S PARENTS CONSENT AND
WEDDINQ It PLANNED.
Shortly after meeting Edwards Mies
Courter took him to her home and In
troduced htm to her family. A few
days later the girl told her father that
ahe was going to marry Edwards. Her
parents were surprised, but her earnest
ness) In pleading for their consent to the
marriage Anally caused them to give
the couple their blessing, and a week
ago but Munday Edwards was to visit
the Courter home and arrange for the
wedding. He failed to appear, and from
that day until ahe finally killed herself,
eo far aa can tie learned, the girl heard
nothing from him.
Miee Courier waa ooiioecued ovor her
lover's continued failure to come to
her. but a naturally cheeifiil dlstpoet
Uoii made It appear that her liaart-si-he
e-as lieglnnlng u. wear away, she
never complained, but It is now be
lieved that she had quietly investi
gated and had found that her sweet
heart was not aa he had represented
himself.
HEARS TAUNTING BOYS SING
"WAITING AT THE CHURCH."
Meantime the story of the Jilting
csme out. It reached the small boys of
the neighborhood, and yesterday while
the girl and a friend, a Miss Fitzgerald,
were watching a hall game, a group of
youngsters amused themselves by
standing nesr the girl and humming
"Waiting at the Church." Spectators
at the game said to-day that they
noticed the girl start when she heard
the plaguing words of the ancient
ragtime, but ahe aimled bravely, and
before she left the game the Incident
had evidently been forgotten.
As Miss Courter walked toward her
home early last evening her mother and
a friend, Mrs. James Eaton of No. U
Academy street, who had been calling.
Joined her and all three entered the
houss together. While supper was be
ing prepared the girl remarked that she
did not feel hungry and thought she
would lie down. She went to her room,
and nothing waa heard from her for an
hour, when Mrs. Eaton entered to call
her. She found her lying on the bed,
fully dressed, with a gaping wound m
her temple and a ..K-calibre revolver
ciutched In her hand.
GAZES ON BRIDAL ROSE AS SHE
KILLS HERSELF.
It was ssen' Hist although fatal'y
WOIMl44 the girl was still alive, and a
physician was summoned. She survived
but 4 few minutes, however, and failed
lo sagsin cons. ... isntss A sear h of tho
loom did not reveal any not expl ng
the gmlcldc. but nearby, on the co' rlet
of the bet, u as g white rose, wti'.h
evident!? s the last OajgOt upon which
U flrt'g eee mud. What iiutloiental
LOVER DISAPPEARS
NEW YORK, MONDAY, OCTOBER 6,
SULZBERGERS GET
LIMIT OF LAW FOR
SELLINGBAD MEAT
Must Pay $500 Fine in Each of
Three Cases Sentence Sus
pended on Fourth.
COMPANY SHIFTS BLAME.
Tainted Meats Came From
Chicago Stamped O. K.,
Lawyer Says.
Pulxberger & Sons' Company, a cor
poration, conducting an abattoir at
the foot of East POrty-seventh street,
and also handling Chicago slaughtered
meats, was nnrd ll.riOO in Special Ses
sions to-dsy on conviction of having in
Its possession meat unfit for food. There
were four charges. Fines were Inflicted
on three and sentence was suspended
on the fourth.
This Is the Tlrst time the maximum
fine has been Inflicted on a dealer in
meats. Justices Zeller, Salmon and
Fleming were sitting when the Jtuls
berger oese waa called. Assistant Cor
poration Counsel Herman Sltefel prose
cuted and Henry W. Unger of Levy A
Unger appeared for the defense.
Health Department Inspectors testified
that they found tainted meat In the
Sulzberger branch at One Hundred and
Thirty-second street and Twelfth ave
nue on May 29 and May 31 and on
June 14 of this year. They found forty
pounds of tainted kidneys ready for
sale in the Sulzberger branch at No. Mi
Eleventh avenue on July 15.
SAYS THE TAINTED MEAT CAME
PROM CHICAGO.
"Every possible precaution Is taken
by Sulsberger se Son to comply with
tho law regarding fresh meat," aaid
Mr. Unger for the defense, after the
charges had been established. 'The
meats complained of were sent hers
from Chicago. They had been In
spected there by the men placed In the
packing houses by the National Oov
eminent to Inspect all meats. They ar
rived here bearing the Government
stamp miulred hy the Pure Food law.
The men who accepted and stored the
meats ..ave been discharged.
"If my client Is compelled to live up
to the strict letter of the law, the
bus nees will be driven out of the city
I do not think we should be punished
for having meat In our possession that
g .i ...... e.l hy the 1'nlted Slates Hov-
emment but may spoil overnight."
"You an'd your clients may as well un
dei stand," said Justice Salmon, "that
this Is a sanitary law for the benefit
of the public, and It Is going to he en
forced to the lettrr. You say you grs
careful. You must he more careful."
The fines were Inflicted for the offen
ses of May 2. June 14 and July 1.
Max Hraehfleld, a wholesale egg dealer
at No. 1W7 Park avenue, was flned SIW
by the same court for selling bad egg.
PRESIDENT PREDICTS FAIR
WEATHER FOR BIG GAME.
WASHINGTON. Oct. S.-Fslr weather
for the opening gar- I it the u Id's
iierles to-m-ri'.r. was 'prsdlSISl by
President Wilson's never - falling
weather for. 'ast'ng rid- gtlOp tn-uiy.
The President ihsvet ttlntStlf Unlike
moat razor straps, hlj U III .chat 1X4
weather will be a day ahead.
The president was s bum t'at he
didn't have t..ue j .tin 1; about the
world's series until some one mentioned
it Then he recalled how his raior strop
felt this morning.
significance the flower had can only be
surmised.
Strangely enough none of the. mem
bers of the family nor their guest. Mrs.
Eaton, heard the shot thut ended the
Unhappy girl's life. The revolver was
one owned by the girl's brother and
was Kent In a drawer of a bureau Ig
his room.
The police Investigation. oandUOtsd to
day under ths direction of t'hlef Plynn
of BaliSVillSi fulled to dSVSlop any infor
mation concerning BtdWSrds, go far as
can be leamSd he was known Q no ons
iii Belleville, save ths Couriers, and ihs
le trued little of 1. 1 it) from their laugh-
Iter llsllioad men .intuit Ibr 'epnsy.
'vania station In Newark sail tliey ha.i
I nev er heard of the man
JH MIMKS TO IK KM II I II K HI'KIM.i
' h Iahiu l.luiltr.l lis lUc.u, anl fjila.
I.U r, Nil 1 .In UlJX 10 A. H .rf ,
1.10 1'. M. ! ! to II.' .. i
1'arlcr ism !" nil ! .a-It- il.nl .-m . :rt'i.oij.
picket MAsss, IjM isd Ufii bneeway. I Curt,
leudt sW sad d Ueuit st krvjju, -AUrt,
jj
KILLED 20 PERSONS,
MURDERER TELLS
UPOLICE
Amazing Confession of Pris
oner, Who Says Ten of His
Victims Were Women.
ROBBERY HIS MOTIVIi.
States He Beat to Death Maid
of Helen Gould, but There's
No Record of Such a Crime.
illie.U). Oct. 1 While the poll
arc satisfied tlmi Harry Spencer
guilty if many murders besides tnnt of
Mrs. IM ild re. I Allison Itexroat. lhy
were forced to conclude to-day that
his statement of murdering twenty per
sons, ten of th.m women. Including a
former maid of Helen Gould at Oohen,
N. Y., Is an exaggeration.
Spencer Is addicted la the nnium
habit, a aymplum of which la grotesque"
Imagination. Home yeses ago the p.dte
learned that -.while he wae in prison at
Jollet on charge of larceny the prison
authorities had regarded him as men
tally defective and from time o time
had confined him In the Infirmary. He
told fellow prisoners of having com
mitted neverel murder
Associated Press despatches from De
troit, Delavan Lake, Wis., and
Ooslien, N V., further ehook official
faith in the confessions. Investigations
at these points, while not absolutely
disproving Spencer's statements, Indi
cated there wae little likelihood that
they were true.
An Investigation, which will require
eome time, will be necessary, it Is ssld.
before It can be determined just how
much of the prisoner's story Is true
and how much Action.
"Home of his stories probably era fle.
tion," said Capt. Halpln to-day, "but
on the whole he le almost aa great a
criminal aa he claims to be."
I KILLED WOMEN JUST LIKE I'D
BWAT A FLY.
"Women I haA th..., T. ,
. - ..... . ..ex never
did anything but try to play me for a
root. I killed them Just like I'd
a fly:"
Shaking his finger In Pollca L'apt
Halpln s face Snencer. arh.i n
convict with a string of 1l, .
day ahrleked hi accusation at the long
nsi or women lie claims aa vl tlm of
his murderous hammer or pistol. He
declares he killed ten women.
Spencer, who made his remarkable
confession to a aerie, of twenty mur
ders after bis capture last night, was
routed out or his cell bunk before
(Continued oa Fourth Page.)
CANADA DIDN'T BREAK
THAW'S TREATY RIGHTS
Government Solicitor Says There
Was No Violation in
Deportation.
WASHINOTON. Oct. Nons of
llsrry K. Thaw's tresty rights as an
American rlttxen were violated when
the Canadian Immigration authorities
forcibly deported him a few weeks ago.
That was the ruling to-day of Solicitor
Joseph W. Kolk of the state liepart
menL Handy Helpers
Who U there In ill great big New
York that does not have occulon,
from day to day, to nuke note of
the opportunities that are offered
here and there to make money, save
money, hire competent workers,
seek profitable and congenial trv
ployment Invest to a good
advantage,' etc.!
155,138
81,601
WOULD ADS.
LAST MONTH
MORF. THAN
THE HERALD
With World Ads. at hand you need
never be at a lots In know where to
turn for the help you need in nearly
rry h i of life.
t oll,,, World Adi.Jor fkty Man
Me Tratl lo I'tacr, llapfnm and
Circulation Books Open to
1913.
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$20,000MOREFORSULZER;
HINMAN OPENS DEFENSE
SON OF FINANCIER
WHO GAVE TO SVLZER
$10,000 IN BILLS.
HOLDS (IP FRIEND
IN JOKE AND IS
STABBEDTO DEATH
YounK People at Party Ar
ranged Plan to Frighten
TimL Youth.
Kour young men of Bast Orange "held
up" one of their chums last nlgtit, and
as a reeult one of the practical jokers
died this morn Ing ths Orange Me
morial Hospital from a knife wound In
the abdomen. The dead youth la Walter
Wlntemll, nineteen years old. whose par
ente live at No. 1707 Telford street. Hunt
Oraug. Adnlph Freytag, seventeen, liv
ing at Wsj I4 Han'nrd street Kast
Orange, did the stabbing.
Ths praotU-al joke waa arranged at a
girl's our')', at which the young men
were guests. K rev tag waa known to
lie timid and sens'.ilvs. The girls, as
well aa the boya, were in the joke,
and the girls' part of the Joke was to
talk to him of holdups and to mention
to him to. i possibility of his being at
tacked after seeing his "girl" home.
After seeelng the girl home, young
Freytag took the middle of the street
returning to his awn home. He was
frightened. In hie hand he oarrled a
penknife, with the large blale open.
He imagined that he saw shadow he
hind every tree His knees shook as he
walked. The slightest sound terrorised
him.
Then from behind a clump of trees
young Wlnteroll emerged and. creeping
softly up behind him, gnsped hltu by
the arms With a yell of terror Kreytag
plunged his knife backward, and Wln
teroll. with a groan, fell into the road,
stabbed in the abdomen. In a frensy
Kreytag Jumped on the amateur "hold
up'' man and tore away the handker
chief which covered his face.
Wlnteroll smiled a ghastly smile up
at him. and Kreytag, recognising him,
uttered a piercing shriek. He threw
away the bloody knife and covered his
face with his hands as the rest of the
boys Q the 'Joke" came up to the pair.
The three companion! of Winlero'l,
tnemselves badly frightened, hurried
their friend lo the Memorial Hospital,
w here It was found thut the blade had
penetrated the abdomen Inches.
Wlnteroll died at I o'clock this morning
Kreytag ran to his home and told his
patents of the tragedy. This morning,
when he fmiud that Wlnteroll was
deid. he gave himself up. He tainted
mice ilmea in me police station latter
Ig use taken to Newark and charged
technically with mansla ighter. County
I rosecutor lined set his ball, and he
will be arraigned on Thursday befors
I'ollce Iteeordcr Null in Urauge and
WOhttbU vi ba acfluUted.
xsl fdy
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PAGES
Son and Secretary of Thomas F.Ryai
Tell of $10,000 Cash Payment;
Bell Telephone Counsel of
Another $10,000.
HE PHONED YOUNG RYAN
"I'M THE SAME OLD BILL.'
Testimony of Young Ryan Shows
Sulzer Tried to Have Barnes
Call Off Republicans.
Bit Samuel M. William:
taMas? oorresvoadsat of The vealag WerU.)
ALBANY, Oct. 6. Two contributions of s 10,000 each, both paw
in cash, were traced into the hands of William Sulzer this afternoon a
the impeachment trial.
One was paid directly to Sulzer by Ignatius V. McGlone, privati
secretary to Thomas F. Ryan, after Sutler trad phoned to Allan Ryan, sot
of the financier, to tell his father 'm the same old Bill."
The other was in the shape of a "loan" from bdward K Meany ut
Oranjre, N. J., a New York lawyer, who is counsel for the Bell Telephont
Company. The "loan" was made at the rciinest of Sulzer. hut no noti
or security was taken.
Allan Ryan declared tluf Suler
ton and ask Senator Root to intercede with William Barnes. The pur
pose was to have Barnes call off the Republican Senators in connection
with impeachment prtccedinic. Thai part of younR Ryan's testimoiij
was stricken out by Judge Culm, who was sustained by a vote of thi
court, 32 to 18. Some of the Republican Senators, notably Senatoi
Brown, are said to be greatly enraged at information that Sulzer hac
sought to have Barnes influence them.
The testimony was the sensation of the afternoon. It overshad
owed the opening Matement of the defense, made by ex-Senator Hiiiman
It was introduced over .strenuous objection! by the defense to the r
opening of the testimony atier the proMCUtion had closed its case.
Hinman said the Suler detense wou!J produce no evidence 00
any of the articles of impeachment excepting on th e charging larceny
of campaign funds and perjury in making a false affidavit of expenaci
He attacked the State's case and iiisiMed that DOthillg criminal had beer
proved against (iov. Suler since he aSturndd office, Hecause of this hi
sahl, thf hxecutive should not nc removed.
When Mian A ItMin win railed 10
the stand he said lie an. the son of
Thomas P. Hun and xavrllts lioma es
Huffern, N. Y. When usked what wss
his occupation he hesitated and linul.y
replied that he followed a great many
lines, lie said he was a inetnlier of
the New York Black Bs change, kill was
not a banker or broker, thoogti he had
ofllors at No. 6ti Liberty street. He was
Uiieatloned by Mr gtSjMadsld,
CALLED TO PHONE TO TALK
WITH SULZER.
U I'ld you liavs any i-oiniuuiili'atlon
with Hov. Sulser before eleclluii? A.
II) telephone about the in Id tie of Oc
tober. What was said."' asked Mr Stun li
ne d.
We object." eaid Mr. Merrick. "The
purpose of this Is to show MgU addi
tional contributions"
lie proceeded with legsl argument
against rSOpaning the case, but Judge
en lien overruled the objections and
the examination of Mr Kan continued.
'J What wae the conversation.' A. I
can't recollect exactly. Mr. Sulser en
deavored several times to get In com
in unlca tlon i
"Walt, hold on." triad the lawyers.
Mr. iiem s attempted Ul Moall the
testimony by o,uest.ontng the identity
of the vol -e over the efltnh0ns
'How did you know it was his voice'.''
ssked Herrlck.
' lie said It wss William Sulser," was
Rygg'l renly.
How do vmi gnow1 Ihundarad Mr
Herrlck. tn it you were not talking
to I'avid latoar? '
Mr. Hyan admitted he did know Will'
ism Sills, r's voice, and there was a
.lash of lawyers ovei the point Mr
Herri.'k was lUCOiggfUl In beading ulT
tne ti-stimony.
' Was there anything by which you
OOtlld Identify the party at th - nil of
the wire?' asked Mr SUnchtteid.
WANTED TO SEND MESSAGE TO
T. F. RYAN.
"Ha r.saea ma to deliver a misaage
final
EDITION.
PRICE ONE CENT.
had asked him to go to Washing
to ui fat bar, 1 unsweied sir, lly en, Lot
thi reply wae strlckss oui sua the 1st
p i. iii' m vers.it ion was laid aside
J Wben did you kes (lov. Sulxtr face
U luoe? A i . II or IS, I'll-. It was
SJboUt a personal matter having induing
to do in guy way with this ogjgSi
IJ When next'" A. The Weiliicaday or
Thursday of the week before thu court,
SOnVSAOd I saw iii n at No. Ul Uroad
way aboal ii o afcxeh a. m.
"What OOnVerasytlSSJ dM you have?"
ask.l the lawyer.
Objected to.
y illy Judge Ciillenl--Was it a .out
campaign contrioiKiona? a. No.
W Old on see Uov. (JuUer In hil
egleel A It was In the ollh e of an
attorney named Frankenstein.
rrailksnatsia is the law partner of
tiov. Suiaer.
4 I: l you see anybody besides (low
gUlasrf A. lie Introduced me to a OoV.
gpriggs. who then went out.
Q, How was ths meeting arranged:
A. Uy telephone.
Waa the voice that called you al
that time the same voice that called
you by telephone In October? A. Yes,
sir.
i Now glvs the aubstsnce of yout
October conversation. A. He said: "Tell
your father I am the same old Ulll "
lie said In instance that he wished to
see me and I told him he would huve tu
see Mi. Mclilonr, my father s secretary.
Mr Ryglt aousht to avoid telling
Thai Mr. Sulser wanted Judge I'ulleti
took a hand in the iueetioultig. but Mr.
liyan laid several times. "I can't re
member." y Mid you nave conversation with Mr.
Mi i Hone about saelng Oov. Sulser? A.
I did.
THOMAS F. RYAN'S SECRETARY
GOES ON THI STAND.
Mr Hvan was asked lo step aside tem
porarily anj Secretary Ignatius V. M -OlOgg
took ths stand lo continue the
story.
y. When did you flret meet Oov.
Sulser? A. I have known mm ten-yeere
Oral as a Coagi eeemaa. Altar ka wag
. stV.. .
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