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IRKLAND.
THE BATTLE THICKENS.
Dpslim, Friday, May ??
Tt> *** ttilvr of Tkf Tritnmt
It m protracted bey? nd all expectation,
UUS b??e of the British Government with the Pope
?ad Hicrarchy.-and their respective supporters, ne
itepje of Protestant England and Catholic Ireland
?a\ unlike physical conflicts, this one that is Eo lc
n^to-pohtiral, becomes stronger, fiercer and more
natter the longer it is continued It is true triers ?
mo blood shed, but a good deal of ink no expend i
ture of ammunition, but mueh noise,-and w.t'iout
Uv slaughter, except of - faith, nope, and charity."
Of good feeling, kind I v ItietMjiH, awl peaceful affec- i
tmae?with some reputations for consistency and :
liberality- more mischief is done, and will be done,
lathe social interests of the country, than if a foreign
tmy ja a career of carnage, had swept over tue land
Tmt would haTt- banded all the people, as with one
aeart soul, and arm to Oppoei aid aftersrard to re
nair the desolations.-but here, while the Govern?
ment neglect ail the material interests of the coun?
try m order to punish the Catholics for accepting an
arrangement which, they say. spiritual aJJeg ancc to
their Ilead. bind- them to adopt.-aud which Ihey are
ready to swear, as with one voice, interfere*, rot w ith j
tore of countn. lovalty to the Constitution and
Queen, or obedience to the lawn. The Catholic
clergy I may sav mm vrrthoul an exception, are de
tarasmedto refuse all cooperation in any plan of
xoorai or educational improvement whicn m iv ema?
nate from the Government, or over win. h tle-y exer?
cise control.?m fa- t. to keep their fl.- ?- far ,
they shall have influence, a separate and detached
people, without any of the uniting and blending in
Jueiu es of school and college, mi powi rfnl in weld?
ing, a* it wer?', a nation under the love of fatherland,
?from the cmdle to the grai <?
THE FE ES K NT POSITION OF THE IIIS PI'TK.
Instead of being the fir-t thing finally disposed of
after the Easter Holidays, this all-absorbing, all-dis?
turbing ' Ec< lesiaatieal Titles" Bill, after successive
postpon' ments. is to come on to-night, if there is
tune , but as there will not be time, on Monday night.
In imitation ol the tactics suggested by Sheil when
the Emancipation was sought for. on .Sunday next
there are to be simultaneous inee'mgs to petition
against any and every Interfere ace w ith the ee,~lcsias
ticaJ arrangement.- of the Boman Catholic Church,
Whether ui communication with Borne, Hierarchi?
cal arrangement* conventual wetaliliihinoiile. or
the Education of >. out!: so. by the tune there will
be a vote of the House ot ( SommOM to go into Com?
mittee?in order to decide whether the preference
shall I? given to Lord John RaeaeItU BSeacure, an?
nulling all title* taken from any localities :n the Uni?
ted Kingdom?orto Spencer iioward's, which pro*
hibiUtall intercourse with Rome in the form of re?
ceiving or publishing Bulls or rescripts, the assutnp
Ition of titles, on penalty of fine and bamslimcnt, and
the prosecution to be by the cumm in informer, and
the confiscation of all giftv bequeeta, trtista, and the
like, thai would mply the recognition of Episcopal
Title?, or Sharman t raw lord's that would exempt
Ireland from the operation of any kajiatative eaact
ntent. a-the offein e that awakened the Premier's
ire extended only to England all Ireland, Bishops,
Fnests and People, counties, cities and parishes,
Will have declared against any legislation at all that
would place the I atholies of the Empire in aaeocse*
Siastical position, worse by one jot or tittle, than that
of their fellow-subject
There were, fir-t of all. county meetings and meet?
ings of the titles and large tow iis (baa a meeting of
the Catholics of Dublin, followed by an ?? aggregate-'
meeting, representing Ireland at large and now, on
Sunday next, every parish holds it- meet in? The
substance of the petition- from Ihoia all I- the same
? are loyal, love the Queen, the' fiaeliliilstm. their
country J"1 thcy :ir<' ^'holies., linn and resolve i .
they will stand by .'>' ''"1" and then lb-hop-, their
religious institutions and no>j women . and they re
Icognize no right, in Parliament or Government, to m
terfcrc ui their affairs that are purely spiritual and
ecclesiastical Tin y wui "reamer unto Cmsar the
things that me < mars,wbul they will also "render
Unto God the things that are God's " This c<.trv.
thus, and the Government are in direct antageeUam
upon this quest ion and all the subject- ItdnWS alter
it. I cannot, of course, foresee the issue . whether
the biU will pass in any of its {modifications, ot be
-withdrawn, or lall through by some lucky chance . or
mhether the aasenlmcnii which the Irish band hare
joreimre?I, submitted to profound lawyers and the
111* hop*, but which they keep secret till the critical
bourconies lor propoeingthem, and winch. Ith - od,
unsold go to legalise the hierarchj and other instttu
tions, but in a less obnoxious form than that adopted
by Cardinal Wiseman, may succeed in carrying con?
viction to the path.ancillary muni, alter the demon?
stration of Hie aal.'* determination , or whether
the Commons, the Lords and the Queen, Will perse -
?ere, and il tin f do,-what meto be the results
Meantime. Has i-the hum in wh,eh the subject is
put before the people, and in which the people regard
it Primate i ollen, in h:- Pastoral tor this month,
says: "You are aware that you are now threat, net
With the swoid ot p. i st cutioii. that youi hierarchy is
to lie stigmatize I and crushed, the free exercise ol the
authority oi the Holy See mterupted, the ministry
through which vou impart the word ol life and the
sacraments of h Union to be paralyzed and fettered,
your charitable establishment- devoted to rum, your
con rents subjected to an inquisitorial visitation, and
the solemn and imperative doty of the Church, in
guarding her children against the grievous and uttrin
aic?langer?of pon?cioui sj stems ol education, isto be
adjudged a criminal interference with civil rights,
calling tor tlic infliction ot avenging penalties. II
the lull become*, law w Inch eai ins siieh consequences.
It is impossible for me to guess w hat the Primate w ill
recommend to aurt them
OTHER MATTERS?I ION I, NOT PONE, TO gg g IMI,
The wonl having gone lorth, that no cooperation
can l*e maintained w ith a government se> adverse to
the people's religion, no confidence m it? educational
institutions, no hush repaaad In any thing eiuinating
from England so bigoted ami pane- utaag, the con?
tributions for the Catholic Umrerafty rlow m at ?
rate art, 1 fancy, anticipated at first by its most san
gruinc friends. That it will be established -and. if it
ahaii not sup, raodi the Quo* if* i uiveraity, < oosist
Ina of the ( oileges of Belfast, Cork and Gatway,
with the Catholic youth ot Ireland, that it will great?
ly diminish Uicir attendance at them, is ??<? no lon
f[er doubtful. Inlthenwuner. thai tlte purel) Catho
ic schools of tlie Cbliattaa Broiliers, Couvents Ac,
will carry awM> the cluhlreu Iroin the .National
Schools, is evident . though no: to the same extent
tor the priests have i slablished a svslem ot install -
tion in Calhohc niiiieiples, at Hie hours for *>*'parate
Inslruction, m all the schools which arc attei.de I hi
Catholic children, and in most ol thi -.- ui Ca?
tholic districts, the masters are Roman Cat holies
Hut the extension "i ths Natioual Schools mto new
and Catholic districts will be pre rented. The pa
per* so teem with letters, trom cseigviue.i ... regions I
whence letters to aawspapers w--<v nevet heard ol
before, calling for an exclusive Calhorn- etu.-at.oa
in Jschool and College - roilowuig in the wals. ot the
superior clergy ant "no tin-' n England" ia ao ut>
tered from every altar and platf um. and rsverbV
raievi fiom emauaEsia to atoual un, tint a stop
Uiuttsl education seem? uicv .tal-.e
in regard to an adjustuu ui of tin Und que.?iion,
ami so the cummaneemenl of lau l unprovemeni on
a national scale, all hope ol anv effective legislative
measure this Pariuuiient aaaxas to hare sasar I .,u?i
On the side ot the Qoveruateal and Cataolica, ihe
ecclesiastical question is paratuotiut The League.
In esuiaequence. i* panlvzed an !. adhering tc-:v
rately to every iota ot us original programme, w hile I
bhennaii Crawford?Um oiumai 111.0,1 ot 1 teteu- |
ant-iight quesiio:., hinmeli a practieal illustrator01 1
Ihe gvHHl etlects ot the recognition 01 the principle
on his own rxtci.M.v estates-unable to oo..p< ,
and ttuwdliuM to o.vi-.se, wui. others likeraiisded ;
stands aloof, ihvii oj isuie./ s :, .pe that the settlement I
vt Um* question mav be indetuutciv jsistivuic 1 1
bavc tittle doubt, however, but that lite subject t, ill I
tsisume its poMiton of paramount irnportarn*e 10 Ire ?
irowl's i-nwiwniv. at the ... , -.
The lminense quantities ol land passing oa' ol *ul
ttvation. fraaa the uiarairrsUeted emigration, while the '
overcrowded ,h*-..m* ?.0 - ? ... with
Ihe sick, marm, and aged left bchmd. become so I
tnany enamel houses, axuat ap-n-ar to the purchasers
Of properties to require a ch*-*ge Withoui the s..t
Uenient of the lenaniright question, n > tenantrv
either tor these, or lor bringing under cultivation the
adjoining wastes Vndovctth. rest ol 1:.. coantrv,
lb* hutdwrds must see. that the into real of the
ia the subject is not dead, oolv s!umS>ring.? uni that,
along witn it slumbers ail improvement s t iuu*i
CSt must nidi:,, .1 d;>p??.;ioii to listen Im. .?-0.1 anl
the first flush of exult ,tion heiua; ,oer ? ih the
Mague?no longer oapeutmg tv> ram- the vtctorv in
aba aaaa. rasi, sacs, stvle adopted at flrst,?thevi.v.
may exercise a btlUt ?.aln.,:. The tenant-right I
filWiaa Will be the "er> " at a nc? .... ? I
tjaatly nxiae ?1,-uiate if H-ttlcment will not be one
".u,r **??? ??* of a new I?arhame;,
etaawuxaaiaa^M work thai, ino-i^t, of nu um.vv
nature. iuusI produir ,tlf.lt riiv, Vif lri,jrae.r ?,*
noxous nernts, as in the ease ot a Mr Sam ie 1 "
ter m iu Dundolk the old storv ejectiiients^*be?a
ry- dospemuon, an.1 b?rl*rious murvlet Tue si me
was lh? case, the other day. with a iarsJlonl Mr Bil?
ling, ot Kings county Both w ere m irdc.-e iinWi
davlight. close to their ow n bouses 1
IRISH 1 ?NPLOSl'lsa
Mr Coulter*.* murder introduces this anouialousl)
frightful subject. and on it I prefer abridging an arti?
cle from the Belfast .Vurftcra Wate, for sometime
past, much more ol a Landlords' than a tenants' pa?
per , at least quite opposed to the Lcag.e ? 1':. .
land anomalysays the it'*ir. " 's grvvwing to that
intensity that it is almost pa?t endurance The evil*
that are hourly arising out of H u-e if so hearous a
chara, ter that the miu.' is perjvlexe-' k .w tboj can be
coexistent with civilized arjetaty Whii? every
other part of the Social System is M tlling down into
excellent working order, here alone we have nothing
hut disajTaiifement ami cndlesn confusion Oa the
one ?*!*. MM disconU-nU-d tenant* loudly complaining
^exorbitant rents?ejected from their holdings oy
ti e hundred?filling the work-houses or starring by
tl.e roadside?fierce in their unbridled vengeance
bum ing down farmhou?e* and cornstack*, arvl shoot?
ing landlords or their agent* from behind the field
fences, or emigrating w here they hare the means c t
doing so to some more fortunate land On the other,
we have landlords raising a ceaseless cry about th*
impossibility of collecting rents, and exercising their
? right1 by clearing the soil of its human occupant*-?
looking to cotrsion acts and armed police fur safety,
and putting no trust in the faith or g?*l will id lanes
who labor on the soil they claim as theirs Surely,
thai ;s a terrible state of things'. Surely, in na
( hnstian, civilized land, boasting of the know ledge
and wisdom of its governor- an' th. -x ?Ii. ice
its laws should so monstrous an anomaly be suffered
to e xist."
" N'owhtrc is the progress of this destructive sys?
tem.?if what is mere wild, anarchical confusion may
t-e called by *u< h a name.?so well chronicled as in
the records of our Quarter Sessions' Courts. whose
chief business seems, absolutely, to be the tSSBS < I
ejei tmn.t j.riM es.?? ?. In the South and Wed e?;rf
eially it has lieeoute quite a matter of ordinary or cur?
rent e, to hear of these documents being applied for
at the rate of sixty, eighty, a hundred bt every dis?
trict In fact, the < rmmibtmnemot eat k mdividual
Session is providently made by that w hich has gon?
before it ."
" Some hundred ejectments arc issued by the Dar
nstcr. Forthwith, three or four hondred people ere
sent out on tlie world, to rob or stain?or no bs be?t
they can. Then, hay-neks are burned , farm-yard*
are plundered . men are knocked down and robbed
on the road . the jails art- speedily filled.?tnd ?? the
Barrister's hand-, and Ike AsnaSS Judge's, too, are
kept contmually engaged. The jail allowance is
luxurv compared with such poor-house dietary Bf thai
of Kilrush. How the terrihie work gOSSon, I cor?
respondent thus states i ' All the useful and valuable
portion of the population are leaving, when they arc
able to scrape together as much money BS will pay
their passage ka America?leaving nothing but the
Aristocracy and the Pauper?.' ?
This correspondent, speaking of a Western dis?
trict, says . ' I nave seen numerous evictions since I
came here, where the occupiers were turned out of
their holdings, the houses leveled, and the inmates
obliged in some cases to place the timber of the old
roofs against a ditch, and huddle themselves together
under it till some eetghbor should takethem in This
kind of thing is generally done by wholesale. They
generally clear two cr three townlands at once, and
sometimes more. A case came under my own inspec?
tion, where thirteen families were evicted, and had
Botasaottofoto.' Hisrhrents?defaulting tenants -
eviction?revenge. It U a terrible story isthishisbiry
of the land relations of Ireland,?evictions, terrorism.
mcendiarism."
The ivsir then wonders w hat the mischief Govern?
ment and the Legislature mean after Committee - of
Inquiry, and Iteports, and ambulatory Commissions,
ana Blue Books that wotfld unk.- i library?that aa
end is not put to this state of matters. Mean' Bless
your simplicity they mean to Bettle the question
whether a Hierarchy or Vicars Spostolir entrench
least on the Queen's ??Supremacy, over all persons,
and in all cases ." und to hx the precise limits of the
civil and the spiritual in ecclcsi.istc al gOVSnUBSOl
Landlords ma) be sled and tenants may starve, and
the land run waste and the people go to thedogl
but all shall be taught the precise title by which to
address Paul Cullcn and Daniel Murray?reserving
?? Your Grace " or " My Lord " for William Beieafom
and Richard Whately, Telescopis.
P.S.-The Ministry have got three or four warnings
to quit, lately, in the form 01 being left in a minority.
It is not attributable to the handed or f.n tioiis oppo?i
tion of our Irish mfinhcr* . for, on some question?,
most of them were absent?on others they voted,
some with, someafBiasttheatinistei The truth is.
great parties are broken up?the opinion of constitu?
encies begins to produce something like in dependent
Parliamentary action , und there will be more ol this
ill u new Parliament
GEOMETRY.
Smith's Item Geometry.
Tlie N. Y. Acailt iny of Education met
at the N. V University oa the evening of the 14th
inst , the President, Jost Rlackmeb, in the Chair
A Criticism was then read by Prof E Loomi?, of
the University, on the "New BsaMBti of Geome?
try by Seba Smith " Prof. L. proceeded to state ;
I. Some ol the fundamental principles of Geome?
try a* they have been leceived by ail mathem it U -
from Euclid to the present time' The Object of (ic
omctry is the measure of extension or space. Exten?
sion, iii its larg. st sense, has three dimensions, li ngth,
lireadth and thickness Pure GeSBBStn doe* not
treat of the properties of material bodies,but ot space
not supposed to contain matter. Having the idea of
extension in three directions, it is aaS] to form an
idea of it in two, length and breadth, w hich is a sur?
face, with no reference to thickness. From the Idea
of a surface we derive that of a line, apart from
breadth, und mathematicians say a line has leutrth
without breadth or tliicknes? ?s ? line ha? neither
breadth nor thicknes?. the east ?l a line cannot have
cither, but position only, w hu h is a point. A nuthe
matical line has no material existence, j,ut is a con?
ception ol the mm i Without this ideal standard
Geometry would cease In he exact The importance
of tins is found in tin application oi Geometry to
Natural Philosophy. Astronomy, Navigation and
Surveying Has the parallel of forty-nine rJegreei
between the British possessions and the t inted
statt >. any breadth?an ukternssdiah atrip si land be?
longing to neither party 1 The same principe* i? il?
lustrated by reference to the generally received
standard of weights and measures. The pendulum
which forma the .standard of all our measures is
defined to be, a single particle of matter r**rasrsded
by n line without weight, and making one vibration
pci second, an ideal standard to which all the mea?
sures of Great Hi dam and the United Slates are re
feired
11 Some particulars in which Mr. Smith differs
from the mathematicians. Mr. s. asserts in his MNen
Elements ol Geometry," that lines, surfaces and sol?
ids are al: of the same nature "That it 1? uaaoast1
ble a line can exist unless it occupies a portion ot
space."?p. S3. " An inch, therefore, is always a cubic
lilt h " A material lint masl 1 ,vc lireadth and thick?
ness Rut such are not the line- of Euclid, and it is
because they are ideal that the Pitmoaitaawot Qsosn
ctry are absolutely true. Prop. VII. in the New El?
ement.? reads tin'is. - The diameter ol ? circle in?
scribed in an equilateral inangie equal* twO-thirdSOf
the perpendicular of the triangle " This is true rav
the definition* ol Euclid but not by those ol Mr. 8.,
a? il i> obvious the diameter of Uu circle baa BOS the
same length in the two definitions lathe latter the
diameter lias breadth an ! must meet the circumfer?
ence of the cuclc in two points, and the end ot the
rectangle is a chord of the circle The length of
such a diameter cannot l>e the same us that of one
with no breadtb Most oi ihe propositions ot the
" New Element.?" BIS selected to illustrate OBS prin?
ciple?that an inch always ine.ui? a cubic lack It i?
noi sinnige, therefore, thai tiie l?ook should abound
in crudities, inconsistent i and ihsuithtlei Fores
BSapk . on page 23. Mr. s ?av> ?? If we bis? Ot a lute,
the place ol t'iseclloii. win ic the two aSlvSSOl tee
lines must meet each other, we call ? point." On
page 27 i.e says: ?? a mathematical hne is am Is trp si
a succession ot smcle and equal units." And these
units. BS ?avs, are cube*. To insect a line. iBStOfctS,
is to at sett a cube, and the place of bteectioa, he
says, is a point. Itfollows from theee mnmlare tl u
spsiathasarsBflta aad Udcaasas. Bales pagetl
he ?a>?, "the nature of a point i? righUj given m the
books." and the books agu e that I point r:a? neither
breadth nor thickness!
Prof 1. proceeded to sirs aaiisnroui other exasa
oles of a ?miliar nature, from the " New Elements of
Geometry." to illustrate the character of the book.
He said that no one could be surprised, after aach
examples, lo learn that Mi s pronounced the dm
sion ol the mathematics into pure and mixed I i be
only an lma^.i.ary 0BS, tad that bs proposi i to cv
pur.ge so use.ess an a!*urditv ironi the DOkl T -
advice h*s eossittteralty foUewed la the **Kea Be>
ment*," trwin araash tue pure mathematics have been
most carctuUv expunged. In conclusion, said Prof.
L.. the aahstarice of the preceding levlee m?v t?e
?aaaaBad eg hi two ptagatArsena i Ttasaewprm
cipies a htoh >u sin:::-. arefeaaM to nav e discovered.
so tai as the] a. i true, asvt beea known to mathtr
mat ic i an * froaa Usm immemorial s This new phi
ktoSgSs) is calculated to sprea-l a veil ol'darkness
over a subject w.'u. h t-ctorv wa> cic.i: .i? no.>:i ;av
A vi rv interest.ng and anrnewhat exciting discus
sion men followed between Mr Smith and Professoi
Loomi?, whieti taa bnaasoi tatoaitseae lasisai oar
reportlBg Oa r. tism Of GSO. W. tlar^e. E?q. a
VOlc ?: t! a .k> Was ..t.i.i.. ' !. P.. :' 1. f.. th. . ?
inactive tactare he had givee Prof Ja? l? Taass
H>n. Ksq . then Bseved teit Prot L De requeste : SO
give to the nubile, m such arm as should be Bkost
agreeable to aim. thi views contained in hi? Lecture
la-fore th,- Academj. of Education
Disvussiouou has ** ffaaj aTleassatasrissaaisij.*'
las iui Ttihot
I BSJ ciroumsunces Bttt tiding Ihe lit-eiure
b> Prot bseaata, .ttheN y Tid nifij, TisTTisaaa
vi?> s .si strut to me not nnlr to rend." pm
BBS, BBJ specially ta) re^u.rv lw v,;m. fl,r,,,rr p,,
bjss W'ueni ascaaaad u,e ls>iialleB as haai tsaal
kasl Bassalenucismoarav -New Elements ol ?;.
omctrv." 1 suppskMvl.iu mv ?impln iu.i;?,; theooieci
ol the .ecturc ...id i:.< piop. -i .. s, ..s..?.? >k
high and honorable one Oi seeking lor truth and light
in reference to a beautiful and sublime science. 1 had
no right to sup;v?s a Prod ??oi ol sramtiBe lamSalaaj
would embrace ?ih h an is cs?ion for m "rmalaualil
"to victory of wit ant contradiction." but rather
"sincerely to give ..true account of ttM gift of rea
aaa? to aha aewoat aasi ana ef assay" locsitosB,! .
lore, I was toUllv unprepare.! for much of the lan?
guage and most of the spirit of the lecture, aad did
n.-t attempt to repiv to cither I have no ?ensetrve
ncss upon the subject, ami feel no wound* from ?u. h
icrtu* as "crvsliurs" " puerilities," ? smatterer?."
ignorance, ?? nonsense.*and the like. M ele^uentlv
osl ^ pPn,nv *"rk' and w well caleutaV a
the occasion proved, to excite the attmiratmn of
ircshiM ii. ?ml cause ?..phomorea to laugh At anv
rate, the use of stich terms seems to me to impose an
obligation on the part of the learned Professor to
show some agreement between the terms and the
matters to which he spphed them To that obliga?
tion. I think propriety requires that 1 should hold htm.
I therefore challenge him to disprove, by demon?
stration or reasoning, a single proposition laid down
in the " New Element? tit" Geometry." or to show
any discrepancy between the propositions and defi?
nitions contained in the work. I am widmg to leave
to himself to f lect the mode and means of discharg?
ing the obligation he so voluntarily assumed, whether
it be bv conversation and discussion in private or m
public! or in w ntten correspondence, or printed pub?
lications.
I will premise here, that I may perhaps think it ad?
visable to change the term mathm.atir.a] itne. where I
have used it. to that of geometrical Itne. to conform
to the classification of Auguste Comte in his irreal
work, ist i. i -heil here, on the'? Philosophy of Ma
thematVs. as 1 think his Classification eminently
natural, clear and philosophical. But this modifica?
tion of the .lefinition will not affect in the least a
single proposition or demonstration contained in ray
W "IK
I will add here. also, that the pretended illustration
of errors in mv work, which the Professor presented
to the and., nee on the black-board, were entire mis
staternents of the principle* and definitions m my
wrirk?probablv misapprehensions, arising from m
sufnricnt examination and study of them. But this is
not the time to enlarge or explain. Seba Smith.
Serr-York, May it. IBS}.
By Telegraph to the New-York Tribune.
Massachnsetts Election.
Bo?t"s. Monday May 26. 12 P BJ
The returns from twenty-five towns in
the second district foot up as follows i Rantoul. 7199 j
I'pham, 60*?: Brown, <Opp ) 688. scattering, 13.?
Rantoul is elected. Mr. Thompson's plurality will
fall short of 100. There is some doubt of Bishop'*
election in the seventh district.
Seroml Dirpit' h.
BOSS??, T ie-lay. May 27?1 A.M.
Thirty-nine Towns in the IVth District
foot up as follow*: Thompson. Whig. C,21i-. Palfrey,
Free Soil, 6155 Frothingham. Opp 671 -nearly dou?
ble the April vote. Mr. Thompson is elected, iuid Mr.
Bishop, Coalition, is undoubtedly elected in the VHth
District
Further Election Iteturns?Anniversary Week.
Bost<>5. Tuesday. May 27
Returns received since the close of cur
last dispatch at 1 o'clock this a.M.. show that Mr.
Goodrich. Whig, has teen chosen to Congress from
the Vllth District 54 towns foot up as follows:
Goodrich, l.US?. Bishop. 3.74". Hayden. 71. This
makes 2 wing? and l Free Boiler cbomm
The trial of James Scott, a colored man. for aiding
in the rescue of Shadrach, the fugitive slave, from
the lloston Court House, came on before Judge
Snrague, of the V 8. District Court, this morning at
ISO 'clock. The prisoner is defended by Hon. John
P. Hale and Richard it. Dana, Jr , while lor the
prosecution vvc have Hon. George Lunt. District At?
torney, and K. J. Lord, of Salem The trial appear*
to excite but little interest, except among the mem?
bers of the bar attending in the Court House room.
Scott is about 45 years of age. and a man of some
property
Thisbeing Anniversary week, there ii a large num?
ber of strangers in the city, and the meetings are very
fully attended. The weather is .1* lightful.
fneColunihiaHoeeCo No. 8,of Philadelphia,ar?
rived in this city this morning, by the StearnJboal tram
via Norwich, they were handsomely received by the
Franklin Hydrant Co. No. 3. of this city, and escorted j
to ChariestOWn, where the J breakfasted. They re?
main the guests of the Franklin Co. while here, and
leave for Springfield, and Albany, to-inorrow after?
noon.
News from Washington.
vYashinqton, Tuesday, May 27.
The City Assessurs here return Col.
Benton among the qualified voters at Washington at
the en*tnng June election.
Owing to the large number of building now erect?
ing here, the demand for bricklayers u great, and
?Hieb ihfiii nit] i? experienced in procuring the requi?
tals number to execute existing contracts-.
The sons of the late John Vukcly. of Davidson
county. North Carolina, advertise a reward of $2no,
for the arrest of Howard P May,thesappossd mur?
derer ol their father.
Powder Mill Explosion and Loss ol Life.
WiLauseTon, Del. Tuesday. Hay 27
One of J. P. Garesohe s Powder Mills,
situated a mile from here, blew up about 10 o'clock
this morning. Thomas Aydelotte and John Russell
?Tie killed Two Others were dangerously wound?
ed, nii.l one slightly The ilainaiic <.ui.?oit? t" aBvang
S4.000. and the insurance is small.
CITY ITEMS.
I'hii.aiiei.phia FlBBSJBN. Columbia Hose
Coanpaaj passed through tins city on sfonday.ontliefr
way to Huston They were received here by a com
BdttSS Of Marion Hose ('oinpany, and afler dining at
Tammany Hall they ranted the Governor'- BOOSB,
File Ball, t tO. They .m-a fine looking set of men.
and appen d in a beautiful uniform of black pants,
white coat, and blue cape and hat, with then um
painted on them Their carriage Is one of the finest
WS have Stag srrn. The reel rests on two m^ ? ?
silv er eagles, a Inch arc supported by the springs. In
front on a ?crol! i? an embossed eagle and the DOSl Oi
arms of the city of Philadelphia and of the State of
Pt sasylvasxia, all ?? lid ?di er The?e are surmounted
by arising sun w itb jewel* and two small guide igle?.
On the back i? a sSt?U with a beautiful painting on
copper Of the landing of Columbus. All the iron
work of the carnage is heavily plated with silver,
and the bands of the scroll* arc plated with burnished
gold. The t SiUSOatS Company will visit Boston.
Springfield, and Albany, and return to this city on
Saturday, where they will remain until Tuesday,
when tnej return to Philadelphia
Huna; at i:.?At a meeting of gentlemen
held in the moans uu i Ism M. lehaats1 Hank on the
24th n.st. at 1 o'cl.a k. in relation to Ihe removal of
the rocks in Hortgatc- pn >t nt. Jami - f; King. James
Brown. Wsttst R. Jones, Joseph Walker, Zebedee
t cok. Uachc McEvcrs. Anthony B Nelson. Was. H
Msg*/, Adam Nornl imd Jot n Falconer, where they
met E Mcrrmm an 1 M?ns Matllefert, on motion.
JaxaesG King was appointed Chairman, and John
Falconer, BQorctBf] It was, on motion, resolved
that ? Ct mmittee of liv t- bs appointed to obtain sub?
scriptions to carry out ilus omect, and Henry Gnu
:.. :. Wa lei B Jone?. CTiarW? ii Marshall, Joseph
Wuls.r ur..' Moit,in. i Livingston, were appointed on
such Coiuniitee Mr Henry Giinnell offers to ?ub- 1
scr.ta $5 t if !. w..: . :!.. r. lliov i! ,.f P,.; Rock. pay.
able w hen :t shall have been removed to the depth of
24 tret b low low water?on condition that other*
ItaWtrtbe I18JSS toward tac removal of Way** Reef
and the Frying Par.
An I'.kkor.?There is a general impres
ROB -moitg enr cilizcns that the Citv Inspector is ac?
countable tor the cleaning of the streets, and that he
at i ? atmet ta order them cleaned. This is a mis
lake. Ti e City laSfSSSSS ha? the power to abate ail
i ui?..nces that may exist in hou?e?, vacant lots, or ia
back >arc?. but hs cannot control such matters m the
'.ii tj nSal Is :.-i gs to the department of the Com
m-.s i.iii-: Str. its ir.,: Lamj*. Hi,d that office i? the
rropcr slant to erster rMBfntBbgBI of filthy street*.
By the as y, may srs be pinnated to call th* atten?
tion oi th* omcerto the homblc condition of l>on
a"* ??"? ? -r ? 1: :iia?'-?treet. aai also a portion
of Wis- 1-roadway._
A CoWaUMltS?A Oaoucricotvpisi in
,, a >---ir.g r lirk from tin
upi^-i past aftaa city, oa Ifsaatay morning. Au insu_p
to a yoaag lady, was taaaaWfsdakottre. a icgaim
rest tsBaaaa 8f IBs affair arfll tike place ma tew dar?
until Wim h tune the ei.d? sf JstSaoe will be better j
ssaareaaiB] our, assaaaaaj I om ajs/aaj the statements
thai sis BBBSjrj By bjii tag ismlili i and tho eow.
Laimii ?The splendid clipper s.hip
Great Westcrr.. ol about 1.500 tun* burden, ?ilibe
tasnuanedtrem Itesaty pazdof Wai h Weob. foot
af scTer.tn-strcrr, E-ut River, this morning, the
28th ins!., at 7| o'clock. Tnis sup is intended for C.
? Msr?i:i?il A i o '* Old Line Liverpool Packets, and
is l?uilt oi iive oak and locust Her model is similar
to that of the Yorkshire She will sail hence on the
BBmJaxeS, and will hr commanded by Capt D. S.
M.c^rnian.
\achting.?The challtn_'i jiven last
?eck in the Baltimore paper*, by the owners of the
Baltimore, for $1.001). u> seil any boat of her
size in the United States, was accepted m Philadel?
phia, by Mr R. riyh, of New-Vork. the race to t*k*
P.ac? within two montb* at Philadelphia.
Arrival or Mr. Bulwek.?The Ri-zht
Hon Sir Henry Bulwer, Bntish Miruster and suite,
armed by the Philadelphia cars Sunday evening, and
are c^eupying apartments at the Union-place Hotel
Lady Bulwer is with him on her way to England
??
rF"The Eighth Company of National
Guards, (.'apt. Shumway. will visit Ncwburgh on the
11th of June. They will remain there about four
days.
Arrests by the Police?Twelve young
German apprentices engaged in the extensive Cabin?
et and Upholstery establishment of John H. Better.
372 Broadway, were on Monday arrested for being
disorderly and refusing to work, alleging that their
employer did not furnish them with proper food.?
Thry were taken before Justice Lothrop. and still
persisted in refusing to return to their w ork. He then
committed them to prison . the boys went cheerfully,
apparently feeling confident of faring as well there
as thev did at home.
Two persons named Henry Net) in I Ceo Hail,
nicht-prowlers about the Park, were on Mondav ar?
rested by officer Williamson, of the Sixth Ward, for
following a man named Andrew Bridy tn'oan out?
house m the Park, and there attempting to pick hi*
pockets. Their movements were watched bv the of
fii er for some time, who finally, to test their honesty,
put himself in their way and very won had that MM -
faction of < an hing one of their hands in his pocker,
whereupon he arrested them and found on their per?
sons ,-cvtral hanker, hiefs. whi. h n<> doubt are stolen
pro]. rtj Tho? tret* locked up Justice by Lothrop
Run ovEit and Killed.?About 1 o'clock
Mondav aftenuicn a son of Mr. Williams, residing
at 226 Eighth-av., was run over ai d instantly killed
by one of O'Kcefc's Eighth-ar. stages. The child
was about three years of age. and was playing in the
avenue at the time. The Coroner ha" l-een notified.
WILLIAMSBURGH ITEMS.
Fike.?Monday evening, ghost 6} o'clock,
afire broke out m the stable of Mr. Coir man. in South
First-st near Fourth The content? were saved, but
the building was entirely destroyed.
Laic from New-Mexico? Interesting Intel?
ligence.
From the St Louis Ropuldh ill gWll
The Western mail vrsterdav brought DJ
letters from our correspondent at InJependencc. and
Santa Ft papers ol the 9th mst. They were brought
to Independence by Mr. W X. Aubr>. waoae expe>
ditious trips across the plains have become cele?
brated
In addition to what is stated in the letter from our
correspondent, we hate received Mr Aubrv's - Jour?
nal." from which we make ?ome BEtracU
He it it Santa Fe on the 23d April. The CoflSmia
sionrrs to locate the boundary between Mexicoand
the I luted States were on Hie Km Grande, beiow Don
Ana, and had decided to place the comer-stone six or
set en miles below Don Ana.
The troon? in New .Mexico aredyitie. of the a urvy
for w ant of exercise. Up to the present time, it ha?
been the policy not to permit them to follow or pun?
ish the Indians, when they hav< killed our Ctttol IB,
and it was in their poorer to chastise them It is add?
ed that ihe voung ofTi. ers and soldiers are permitted
to lead a hie winch is ruinous to their health, and
many have die I. The Apaches, w ho killed White
and Fli urnoy. have violated the treaty which thev
made only a mouth or two ago Thev wen? 10 Bar?
clay's Fort, ran off fourteen head of beef cattle, and
committed other depredations. At that time the
Apaches were encamped a short distance from the
Fort . an express was sent to I.t Col Alexander, to
inform him of the facts Order? were immediately
sent to San .Miguel for a company of United States
Dragoons, under command of Lt Chapman They
reached Loa Vegas in a .lark night, and m passing
ot er ihe mountains Lt. Chapman was thrown from
Ins horse and severely injured. On reaching Log
Yogas, the company was ordered to be itaBonoJ
arOUnd the tow U, and this iethl extent of the punish?
ment awarded for the violation of the treaty.
Gor. Calhoiin had so lar given entire satisfaction to
the people of Won Meottoa, and it was the opinion
thai he would continue t<> do so,
The mail from the i nited States was met at Pecos
t hurch. It contained information of the rujei lion of
the nomination of Hugh N Banish a- BoOIUtary of the
Territory?a matter which will be received with
regret by the people of New-Mexico, with whom Mr.
Smith has a lamer popularity than any other Ameri?
can.
separate meetings hud nominate 1 Capt. A. W. !
Reynolds and Maj. R, H Wightman as candidates for
Dcic gate in Congress. There was a good deal of ex
citeinestty and a u>t deal of log-rolling, throughout i
the Territory, on the subject.
Cov. l ulhoiiu has issued his proclamation ^pppint
.-? the IIth inst /or the election ..( uieniiter, of the
Legislator! 1 large snooting ofciatsens w i- bold
in Mnta Fi on the IN, Robert Brant in the chair, at
which individuals fee the Legislator! wen minima
led. lt is stat<".l that the priests in the country were
candidates for the Legislature.and i|,,.v were rare Of
i" ng elected
'i in n wen three badass of .-now ? gaste Pi
Un tin 21/th the coaapaxn paaaad five tram- of wag*
.a .- belonging to Mexicans . thev are on their w ay to
llaxh o to porefa i-< s i ?
On Um nans day um v !? f| the Banta W road, two
m,l< - to.m Cold s-pnui'. and traveled eight miles t,\
eoinpa-s Croaatag ihr Citnarone, thev obtained
gra.-s, arood and water in abua lance, with the view
ot ot taming a better road i in Um i-t. the party trav?
eled until atidnighl made 3."? nilas saw n.> water,
oraodnoe graas rot tweaty-tbui hours Thev trav?
eled during the day oa tigh tahte land. ju<i as
i< vi: at a buiiani tanh. oat epl whi ? they had to go
a Huh out of Ihrii vvav to eines i .wr? It wa? ex?
plored three or four mil. s fotta ' tobe from three
to tour hrtaxdred feel deep, aad tiurtv to sixtv yards
wi ii They had now otui tuu gallon >.f wntei in
camp.and were xaiiseed thai no route eowMheece
lam..i and they ?!? triniin ? ?. to make t ir tlie Arkan?
sas as last :o po-.-lbl?
On the 2d tin v siTTfed at the rirer. their snlmala
Irnsing been two days without water. The last day
the party had no water to drinh, and they traveled
through sand and a hot suii. and had to drink the
blood Of the AntcL.p,
On the 4lh they pa-sed M MdgOa ol ( n> veune In
gxawa, in liieir way to Fort .Macaav. .Next day, at
Fort Mackav. they saw r.vc tribes of in,ban- ass. m
bled there to make peace w ith Co! Hoffman Tiie
tribes were the Comanches, Cheyennes. Arrapahoes.
Kiowaaand Apaches of the Plains. Both sides of
the rtfl r were crowded with lodges for at least fifteen
nn.t i i he pniicip.ii ein. f.- ..f each tribe were ?rt
tti I ic I HUM ' in Col. Hoffmati's tent, a,.-!the ren.
mony ol smoking the p.pe o| peace ha : t o., ;. am
Col. Hoilman had acted with prudence and care and
Urn Indhua* appeared to he waU mttated nrithhim
It i- probable that the Ciievennes and Arrapahoes
wiil reject the treaty?the others will net.
On the 7th. thev met the U.R. Mail in charge of
Ellson. at Big Owl Cm k On the loth, Ih-v passed
i sung and party at Lost Spring Next day. they met
John Simmons, wit:. Messervv's tram of sixtv
R tgOaO, at Beidgl t n ek. At lit, Ihev met W g
Mt .-MTV v on las retui n to N. w-Mexio ' g tv. gpahh
hm, of Loa Togas, on los wa>. to New-Mexico, with
adroveot cowr Beck t Brent s tram of twenty,
five wagons at Willow Point, and mma wagon
whose owneis w? ;. BOf known.
On the 12th, Mr. Aubrey arrive 1 at l.\ impendence
in nineteen days from Santa Fe?traveling from Cot?
ton Wood to lautupeajjaamce ia two day- ami one
1.r?a distance of two bundled llllie
#We ?I all give extracts from the papers to-morrow.
w/o obeerre that Oov. Cadhwua had appointed D V
i emtory, m
w tutu i to a a. tii| Se. retort of the
pi?ic? of Hugh V. Smith, resigned.
Conoejpomloni e of the Republican.
11 DLrLS'DE nce. Saturday. May 12.
Tin* iiioriiioiT ,,ur n:utual friend, F. X.
Aubrey, reached here, having made ton trip from
Santa Fe in 19 .'av -
The ma? had reached Santa Fe from El Faeooo the
42d April. Dnnging new. a* usual of iadton aVaagada
t. ... TttU] aiid Ferguson's train was attacked ui
the "Jornada del Muerto." aad some Of tnc man
killed. Ponsey's train was abo capture I bv them
near El Paso?the w agons destroyed, and 500 (anogjac
ui Corn, and all tlie mules taken awav
Maj. Weiglitmaii and famiiy arc beta . Col. Cun
iniigtiam. Mr. J. Grcir.cr. the poet laureate of the
Oha \N:.;gs. Mr. Smith and lad), the Bapli?t mh>
ahaUar] to Santa Fe. Mr. Barkley,' and many otaers of
some notoriety, who wui start lii a tew davs on their
jtmrney. Col. tunningf.am goes out with the troop*,
of course. Mr. Greener, iatho aann?ntad IndiamAgonl
tot a portioa, if not tilt. whole, of tue territorial
limits of New Mexico. He UrilL we apprehend, if
Tfpcrt- from the country arc true, hem ?.m? work to
to w.ai. i.t raarhci us axaas of dastiaailkTa We
-oa ti. 1> hope he ma) accomplish more taan has vet
beendoiie. Fnun tue material ?er.t by tbeOovoraV
mer.t intS.c ir.-.litj.rv ,>ar, f.., ?,,,,.,,
to be done in the wBV of suppre-sing Iuomi ftoati in
and remit nil* the live? aiui prop* r>. .ons -Ja
triv-iep. more ?eeure. I ol. Sumner t; u aVr'-iutaiion
eowrssad by m nc foe activitv aad den ranjaxataaa!
v *,? ???Mcx.Co will now bt pretty wail r-pre<ented
by the diHerent ilenomination.' "f t tirtst;an??having
in ssi. nartes fn in :;.i b'a;..? Mttho
? ist ai.: Lr->ccpa.:a;. ts.urdl \\ . tr.-t pJaan work
of la^or and love will not be m rata, but that soon
t..r waoto peamtry arui f?-,i \h> httireucs torgooi,
even by the pre?<-r ce, if n itnmg else, of aaefa men a.?
have already, and arc now g.ui.g ttjatbor.
Wehavt gad, within th' "pa.st twen'v-? a .-? mil
very abundant ram.?lor.r ..?oked for. and rery grate
full'v received The river has n-ea to-day from 4 to
? inches, and u i? uo a confidently expo :?tl ii,iu tiie
annual rise ha,- < on.meia th. w> ataer tor :non
than two week-li^.-l*'t n wann. an-, rwt rain ha?
fallen Verth of ex V.airs. Ac . m ha-te
KnoM HrrMtPA.?Wt\ mvn rejeoitnd
files of t:,e Bermuda im trintr to the ?nh n -t We
tiA no add.tional news sIOl-e former ad rue*
METHODIST CHURCH CONTROVERSY
? V Circuit Conrt MonniT, Miy ?
Before Judges Nelson and Dett*.
Wi/hafn A. Smtlh and others against
Bangt and olktrt -Mr Choatc having become suffie
lently recovered to resume the case it was proceeded
j in. The Court room was densely crowded by spec
! tators. a large number of lsslies being in the galleries
Mr. C. said he regretted having had to avail himself
so long ?d the kindness of the Unch, but hoped he
would bt able to requite it by reasonable brevity.
The question presented arises out of transactions
of singular and sad intcrcst-onc suggestive of manv
thoughts e.s to the dismemberment permanently or
pro tempore of the Methodist Church, but it is in it?
self a question of mere property, to be decided by
op*-ration of law. The Court would not be greatly
assisted, but would rather be i nibarrass-ed by an at
Jrinpt to trace the cau.?i s. i>r .?p< ak of the blame or
responsibility as to the parties producing it. still less
ty hearing the crimination and recrimination as to
the motives whi'-h led to the suit? all that v ill bt
done better, perhaps, elsewhere History, which
keeps a durable record, even when par'ies shall base
passed away, will display it I desire to confine my?
self to the question before the Court.
Before proceeding any further. 1 would sav. in re?
gard to Iht immediate deft n laut.?. Ih.t' they have the
custody of the property in question . that they re
ceived it as a trust to be applied to certain definite
characti rs. and for the bench: ot a certain descrip?
tion of preachers, and woes and families ami trtdowi
of remaining members, under the directiou of the
General and Annual Conferences. and they have
never rx en directed, so far x? they can understand it.
to draw a farthing for the purpose claimed by plain?
tiff, and must suppose they BOU it under the original
trust As to the Commissioners appointed in 1M1.
thev tri 1 that, according to the very plan of separa?
tion on w hit h these parties bring their bill, they are
directed to pay nothing to plaintiff, but on the'hap?
pening ot a et rtain contingency m relation to the re?
peal of the restrictive rale, a contingency which has
sever luappened Thai is a sufficient excuse out of
Cour'. aim toi defense here Whether the Annual
Conferences ought or not to have acceded to the
matter ef the General Conference, is not fordefend
sats to say, but until they have done so, we hold it
on the trust* under which, tor liltv years, it has been
administt rt d, and on the ta.th of a Inch hundreds and
thfttlfSmlf have lived and died, or UTS and lalior still
within the bosom of the Methodist Church, and
whnh it i? ihe duty of defendants, on record, to
guard till the Annual (. onterei.ces. or this tribunal,
shall -.a .'.Mi rent.
Mr 1 cla rishetl the lion, thai the church would
be reUnite? He alluded io the suggestion at the
l? BxfTilb < Haff I 'Iff't that something might he pro
noted when bv it might be reunited-that it might be
(be same old < tain h again and show wuh something
hie tire hnlMancy of ttz rising is a hope which ho has
md relinqtiircd.
He contended that the course oi the General Con?
ference from 1S36 to ls-14, a> t ? the slave question,
was Ol a conservative and conciliatory kuid-that
thi v had retused to make farther tti.vtmcnts as to
thai qnestmn, ami m rtmsetpieace of waith refusal
some ministers w ho weie in favor of it had seceded
and gone to other churches.
The dismemberment of the church for the reasons
given on the day it happened ?.i> causeless, need
easand daptoniole ia the highest degree j the zeal
?nd energy Of I hrttafana in one generation might
have kept it together. and if the thousandth part of
the ability w hu h the members of the church po.??. -s
had Im en exercised, they might have done so.
Mr. C contended that the whole cause of dissatis
faction OB the part of the Southern atsnbsrs was the
it .solution in regard to Bishop kltdie Wl . and yet that
resolution was kind and delicate toward him, leaving
it to himself Whether or Bot be WOUld yet continue
to 1I rform the duties of his office . ami retaining to
ban his position and emoluments He was nmii
inared by Ihe south and sleeted by the Gsasral Con
fen nee, on the ground, agreeably to the rules of dis?
cipline, that he old not own slaves . when he hail U -
comi lbs owner of such, all that was ?ugge?ti?I t,>
him ?res that be would notoonliaae to aertmnstas
dutirs ol his oftlee.
The regulation not requiring a traveling prea? her
to manumil slaves when the law prohibited it, did
not apply to Bishops There are nine Bishops, of
winch the South have six. and the jurisdiction of
which extends over ihn whole of the vnitod Stales,
and the usefulness of a Bishop, while laboring iii
states not slavehoklmg. would be impaired try a de?
viation ot the rule, while the preachers are located
by the Annual Conferences and It WSS loundBOOBS'
-aiv thai a deviation should be nude ill regard to
Item.
Thi majority of thi General Conference of IH-lt.
Mi c. said, in passing the resolution* they did, did
not dream of a division of the i 'hutch ll was repre?
sented to the Conference by the Southern members
that the action a.? to Bishop A. would render it fan*
|>rai In aide for Hit in to |>ioeee<l in the o|Ktratloiis ol
lh? ? litirelt M.?ill>, nri't Hie re-oliltlon WH? M ttie
effect that it thev tound anceessityofdivision.it
might be sett d upon. When the Southern members
returned, bad aar) aaiahtir of them, hi nttn inn , 11
ercUCd their energies rot i continued union ot the
* Lurch, it would have been secured, instead ol
which UU v M t ;,, work thi Annual Coufen SCSI in fa?
vor of division, which led to the Conference at
Louisville.
Mi t . contended, that even aim wing the General
Conferem < to bare passed the n solution, ami it had
bees acceded to by the Annual Conference, th it
< i Bt ml ? otereiiCc had no more power to authorize
ai,.; ordl r a dir ision ot the Churen, than has the Con
en ss iii it,, United states ti?- power lo do to bt re?
gard to Ihe nation. The General Conference grew
out et US annual counsel, and had but the s one
powers, and one portion ol whose duty was ta take
an ? Hin - lo ?tri ngthen the union of the church bv
iteatl ol to destroy it The Constitution oi lbs
Chun i: erat forma d in IT'-I. i v a body called express?
ly loi that pnru.se. in a .?iiiiil.ii way with the Con?
ventions which formed the C-OMstitutioua of the
i mted States und the several States, and when its
werk ?rat done that body separat d and has been
seen no mon Tin td .st principle of that Cetmtito*
lion was union, eoateiaplatinf aa extension of the
i horch tor raw fulness over the whole length and
breadth of tos land in winch its mperintendants,
through the ItilM macy of the i linn h. could Slice, ???
full) pursue their l.dior? iii i very part TbSfliaatiUB
kl M Slavery was also a cardinal point of that Con?
stitution. The only power which can divide and
separat! uYeCnsxresi la a eeewsiaataa which must be
called expressiy for that purjsise. ?miliar to tlie con
11 ut an w inch torined it. Any portion ol mat Church,
therefore, withdrawing from it beecaas meeders,
agreeably to the rules of the Churcb, and have no
claim* njM>n it? propsrty.
Mr C,daringhis remark-. Btads many beautiful
allusions a.? to toe beaentol union, both us to the
Church and to the Nation?it wants but mutual kinJ
nest and aceneideratioii of srsl principles, and he
hoped far would DS the day when US L iuon would be
dissolved.
He gate, during In? remarks. MMBC ac. ount of the
hi?tory of the Methodist Church in this country It
had its birth, he said, and baptism in 1760. in an tipper
chandler, ia a building at Maw-York, it was some?
what i Sal arras-ed bj ihe war of the Revolution, bill
irt 17*? its hymii? were sung m the pine woods anu
dwi limps of *t ven States, arc! it numbered between
ll.tti - Ij.i-Ml members. [Now,UFO believe, near?
ly one and a hail millions, j
Mr t , ia relation to the property, took the ground j
Ural .a the General Conference of ISM there wai ?
?poem] agreement which ?hould govern (in case the
raaalutioa ares valid,) but the tanas of wsash have
net i sea pa formed . and the isceaasoa of the sasav
bert, even if authorized, wonli not entitle them to
SByBert on of the funds without an express agree?
ment io that efTci?ai'cuoeed by s conti ef sssapa*
tcr.t jurisdiction.
Mr C.SBOBs with great cloqutr.ee for nearly five
i o',r? -
I t s'psy, May 27
The ( ourt room, a* '?? lore in th.- ease wa? early
filled by specialen
Mr Ciioate appearing stronger than on 'he day be?
fore, w a? early on the ground. H<- said it from tins
review of the history of the Churen the Court thought
the counsel eamt bate existence a* purely asnaxasa*
tritive. las ease is ended hat if they thought it was
ut t.rst clothed with the extraordinary power to di
v;dt ..r.d .: so .'. .i.'.t.-.dcd io clothe the first Con
ference :l IN-S. Everv representative body i? what
the OOtUtttnttntl intended to make it Thi? is from
the broadest to the narrowe?tb<sly. So 1 maysu:ci::t
it at even- where applied that the will of the consti?
tuent is the mra?ure of power. 1 can sec no trace of
intention iouter powtrtodiv.de. The original
language ,-. it absei luve {?wer to make rules and
reg? it : ? tor trie < nur-d ; -v. ????!?!> existing and in?
tending to exist indefinitely. It is found simply to
Mtead an axdstiag feature, to ami nd the third article
of Ihe piei - DS rules Tiie indeiimie futiii?existence
is (tecrr.c.t at settled, and t;:e eln.raeter of the actor is
meetly to tn.-ike rules and resalatlOO* for the Church
during its whole life. However brood the power to
1 the general fonferen< e, H la aii to be construed at
last as administrative p..'.'. < r \ iM.-r.'tntive power
I alone was intended to be Muftimd Power may be
given to an attorney by a partnership,but he is notio
saatro] Acernmatma m-.,. cm?- power to officers,
but not to dissolve it He hire- a servant to ena;>:e
him to live while he lives. The power to the Con?
ference w^? to make rognlaiiotu for our Church, *ame
sapewermamae rnkstfor eaeina or sawSataave
tien, not to ffssBeh e or doscroy it
Al totae r<?wer of Congress, it hat power to mal?
ru . - iks i urc rni?-s tu ?need ti.< in thriHigh a tSjeav
?? tan.orr.lio?.*>? till thev lieeome Stale* bsitthi
cht.rch wa? alreiitfy estabii- I
A to th* powerof ITSSand le< S,can it be said they
?' t' i uif < weretl for destruction ' They found ao
evateare of <l<v ision. tMjt <>f unit.. Mr c'reatl from
Id BaagS| History of the i hureh. a* to the power
Fit en to the ( or.fert-nee.
BB] dtmM remain, it i? renuived by the language
rfthi restrictiona. The explanation i* because no
r< \ ?r '.. i tern dreamed to I? ?..? a that ? ouhl be
tormented into an idea of division. Men would seem
more like coming from Bediaia than the represeata.
tires of a treat body, that would leave another bod*
power to pluck up the noble tree bv the roots. The
idea is inconsistent. The discipline says thev siiiJ
not aller the article They mav not so far alter as to
say to bishops, You shall only (to to Mason -?re' Ols?
on's hne . that to the Northern bishop they migrit sav
You may go to the line, but you w ill find no church
behind it. and so to the Southern bishop it u siui
that iu South-l arolmn the article* of discipline have
already been altered so as to be diaerent frcm what
shown to this Court.
As to the Canadian Conference matter, the metho
? list Church was constituted lor the whole r ruled
States. it cannot ? xeced that territory. it mav meet
i n tl.i line .o,; . -:.^?. l.a:. S A ,?
but there it remains, an indepewdeal Arrwrican church'
This is ?hown by the letter ..I W?-ie\ We? ry (eft
the old Episcopal t h'irch, and reluctantly conferred
power different. but it became necessary After Use
T>t v..ltdIon, the HothodaU Chiio ll Was co ated bv
American minister-, and could noi n 'evond
the line. They leu a right to semi missionaries
:. wind, and ui Uttl Wag the Canadian Metho?
dist Church, hj ItS i? |i:est. hOCUeM a part of the
nawnaf I it waa sun sr to what waa apokaw at* mat
lvmo. where two dnferent Churchc* may unite, and
ai'trward mparate The political interests of Use
two i hutches reauired ? separation, and the < hurch
in Canada roqoeeied one When thev came here to
ask it. the final ludctnent of the General Conference
Wal ?MU they had not power to grant it. and fag
lion then throw* totbe w.n<N the power ivsuiMsl la
IM4 It was at that t ine dec! tred that the General
Conference had no constitutional p wer to grant a
separate church establishment, and declared it to be
unconstitutional The Conference was led to further
consideration, and alter several days it was discover?
ed that it w as not a part of the Church, but a league,
which could te dissolved Thei resolved thai Uie
?ompact bet a eon the Church of Canada and the Bag.
ted states is dissolved. That is different from the
Methodist Chtm h in the United States, jaj that
there were no sin a saiva loaginrrt, but und* r the Pas?
toral Lettei of \V? sh y . the Church existed forthwith
throughout the United States by an original organic
law They found it was not one I hurcn to be cut ia
two. but two that were again to be divides). It is m
the power id the l" g uOVOfraUa nt to end a treaty
withEnglandorAuetria.but not to dnmarnebey the
ccuntrv 'Kiev said, it Canada will dissolve the
treaty! are will do nothing, hol -end her. ..t her re?
quests Bishop, and isaIsI to organise I merely al?
lude to ttii? to ahoa the yodgateM i>t the Coamnmnm
as to its own pow ei s.
Then as to proci. dtngi of the General Conference
of lMt and lieg, tato former, its proceedings will
m 11 v asueh regarde 1 at to the i.?. it bad aateaabosd
m the ordtaary way, without anyuttnaaUoa thata
queation of such ;ianei endonl interest w.(s t,, to
brought up- H e agitilUon as to baahop Andrews re?
quired individual n ; o-.- mstca 1 ot that, the Saturday
aftei Uu n mlution as to Bishop Andrewa, fJs<,. utth?'
Church in two as h person would cut a cucuoabef
There is not I particle ot nroofthat there waa any in?
timation of this thunderbolt oul of ;ui unclouded sky.
He who bereaves me t mv South beroavea ate ot i
pileelessjewel. Tbl ?oiut will -ee if ab.htv did not
ti mam to elucal ite such .?rmration as arum, it will
kcc by Ben. Monroe's reports that there was nothing
beforethi Court ol anoealaiu Keutuckythat theie
was any conflict in other ceederoncea ii wubohare
the meeting of the Cei eral t oi.t. renoohl IMs.
The South bad gone on and done that act The
Generali onferenco would ha the one toattust with
the new Church w Inch convulsion and viol.me hail
iieeted bv its side The Chu t eh went away, as it
were, in the night, it n wondhwonad regular, would
not tltc united mass of the dismembered tracment
haveMooanbledandi ram trad what wa> lo he canal
Allowing the General Conference had constitutional
power, they had no right to act in advance The
General Government cannot divide the state-, but it
a part became diMiicmtH red they had a right to settle
for the remainder The foundatio.i of the General
t onJCJMnce wasumly, and tney were direeic I to en?
deavor to preserv e :? . but w here local ditti rences, in
despite of them, severed, they had a right to nourish
11iiitv still.
W e aJeO s iv if tlie jNiwer BgiatOd tue re-o!ution
was on the representation that a ncci ssity would ex?
ist for separation, but that never hapiieticd The mi
nority feared a local enritemeul The general con
feronee Mid ii you imd it, abandon us rather than
thriu. We sav they In! not lad it but njmde it.
ii alaintifff have .-. i edod without i oaapotoal eccle
nasties! authority,their rights of property did not
exist. At anv rate they must show that a voluulary
..' aiidonnient did not lose tt.
k sacred literature, aaseug other things. Mad be
prov nied, and indii idual proaobera eootaaeeM eddom*
so. It advance.', on its profits from $3.1*10 capital
and $4,000debt to what it now is. At itaong.n it waa
detennined to devote the surplus profits to charita
bleuses, with a vieu to services and it has front
I7$f to now devoted to a particular purpoae, for trav
eiuig and lupernumcrary preachers, superannuates!
preachers, families, w idows and orphans esiurhamrtn
n.cmb* rs of the ChUP h?my clients ire tru-tees, and
mi isure out to each their portion of claim.
it is not a perfect right in any beiicficiarv, nor is it
I xe a partnership Its legal denomination is, that it
l-a riglit w hu ll h* ion-to be a. ,11111??? 1 as On n-gula
tion, but retained oni) by continuing as members ol
the chWCh afterward The right does not depend
upon vv hat a i o n In i I..us to do. but a right to Ins be?
ginning and continuing to be a traveling preaehar,
\\ bethel be cnrrir.i books or not (and some did not),
he is equally entitled a- it he did. The preacher did
not write in.r own tl.c l...i,ks. but be WUS told ?* BO
worked hi' should l ate ii light lo an inteie?) in It.
Hi- tight is peitei ii i.<- keeps ouhtialty at work to
the end. '1 bt re is n. t., laborer w ho carrit I out milk
but might euually claim the original as conaidmwl
here Does he MM a-? . age Of lbe milk and lake
" eari " ot the I i.:.il yet BC ge's for his labUf his
pay. ( DUM a Btinurti r WD ? go. I to Berum.la claim
l>> hold I If he it i v.,.. Uod he lo. i |hit right or if lie
la turned into e lo*. itad prawoher he loses in- right.
The incht iduala change Phe superauumeary pnmn>
arm lint a latlor-ottlcer ntth leave ?m siiore, hale
liable to I , called iuio ad. any natNtsaavl They
only torx'o who man and watt, Bonn Iheta ianlhi
ot -'inet love w in i: the ? apevaimiutted pn acht r may
peitoim. Tbl ttlvei bowl mav nearly be broken,
[nil los hen.Is . in vi I he lifted i.jiand Hie Church fol?
low- I,;m This m kea tide Church what it is small
pay, hard work and justice to all men Tue object
of the Methodist Church if to rpreaeTand .v.ik? up
rlnojuonl bmgm - as >f hmehod hf fire As to the
< tnadnl onference, Ii parte.! noi only m 00000,bng
with every benediction, und yet she tooa nothing
with her sin- was authotlaad to go, but it sras a de?
c-ion wrung Rwm tlie Conf. rem < !>> a woll-th-fined
principle The dee -ion i?. if ?he BOesaJat from the
t hurcn, tbougli v. itli Use good m irhcs ol all. there is
a failure of awaaborship. Authorized or unauthor?
ized memliership i- gone
The Old < burch isdeatroyed, and two n. w ones
COOaaruetodou its site The ibtn has gone to pieces,
tin v say. and ev< rv Ci.S i nlitlad to a nail. But lo this
id* r? are four an.?w* 11 Tin General Couwn nee has
no i ower to daotro) ihe I 11 rch,aad rahmSi r 3.1*10
001 of its ashes, next, it did not assunie to rtestroy,
bui to authorhm a di gmtnara, i* avbag the oaf identity
1.. .:on. he. 1 The) novw aseumod menmttou weVehm
VMnle it spoke 01 division of property, they never
.>:okcol dnision Of the t burch All they authorised
watt, that others, on lhc;r own volition, imaht depart,
without blame, Mil r* 1 oiling (he Chiir*'!! still?or
might remain The ease m Moni'ie,spoke?>f eithon
tv to organize. The Louisville convention and the
plaintiffs ii. this i.. Um it Bill, ti eat the ( karoh as
the Old Methodist ? hureh Tlie Otaswal ?'??ufer
ct.ee did not only destroy bttt took care ?hat the partv
seceding should'not i laun as a natural right, but there
-. v hh m ? of k< epingtl s Old Cnurah ?h?*', ui*tea.i
of allowing every man to oeene m w ith ?late ws gm>
ril and say what be entitled to for service In
ttl ad of that.it claims every member a* subject to the
organic iaw *,f the Bo* lety, It left it to the aaamal
Conrereneoe to aUou aa ahtetatma in the eaaei the
funds, without which 'noresolutions could not have
i ft* et Tin v di I n h brad thai the vcrsie. naMM
lakeequaDywhittl.* oneihatremains, Brhsmtba)aea>
stitutiondid not authorize it.
If it te that a div must nccc-ai..'. ar.> the
property out of it? u re Of carrying it to a |- fWMl no)
Iti member. Ihst tbey had no i?>*er to <l<> If they
could not axvnh 'ii chttreh without dm property tnsry
could do neither. ar..t in mv humble opinion no great
harm done c,;ler If Ihe annual Confere... e? had
acted they < ..mo i et I V ?- given the fund tu 'Ii" retir?
ing mc mbor.
Mr. C. ^a:d hg had I en too much indulged by the
( ourt to trespas-fuit r lie rioted by contending
1 hsl Ihe plaint iris I 11.;ht t.i their emms, or that
the dettmdanta havi c!oei auythingbywhstbrneemm
im dtftieiiitv. Hi w amtaned the Court will not amfl
in the case, and do matiy, The damaadams are stfll
ti. vitih"*! -t Eptacom.reh for North and smith
it in.' thmmonieof attacbed memhum In tt,. .-iave
btbtlwg Bmtea, am H taut be the fseemg of even
I g*a^l man lhai Ii. - 1 fOh w: i again, to a eermin
erteilt, be ream m - ?? hoped me eotam af the
j C ourt would la. thta'i its operations. It i ;^*.is it*
I arn.sto tie who!* 1.; a^fatth* Mr. i sji?ke
i aUail two hot IS
Mr Weaaitheu <?? n ? em id his mmajgftaahm on bc
1.1. t ot iKic-e. Hi M would eomb ?e aa
1 much ea poesibh siai eouMder tbo fbeas that hawwae*
rood] I < * i Knliydevi ??: mi. P! tmnhfi ehsaa a pat*
ihm el tht nu.c's cvrnrpondmn w?;n tnc waaabacol
Ibeaesbaaiuof fo . Tbeiwaaaboon a mpaaanWi
oft!*...... and the aeweuam at f thai
entitle-ih? in to i j... mof iie property. U taerc
ii saytbfug whn ? -h aid be marked bv a ap r;t ol
;<...<?. it ii, a 1?;....,.- mattes Every thhny ef thth
k md has a delete' on. elf, e>. (>artic*t!arly on t ? rising
mevatatm. and the MetaUmml I hurch, it ;s to be
(eared, will so fine it The Methodist Churea it th?"
lallii >'. probab!v u. Ih> * ooi.lrv It was li.e | ameer
of religion, and earned reovion with civiliT-e'^n on
our '.orders. It 1- to be recretted that the Southern
tin Bhhen have brouf!.: the case into a cot..' of jua
:.ci when it was u. the iuaoss nf oaahmMe -raiige
inefit. winch there ?? a prospect of being * B'-e'ive.
Hm they have romi n ' am* he met. .Mr. \v cited
ca?es with ;. view lo ?bow that the claim could n<*
t e amanam ??'
The claim of plaintiffs. Mr. W.xh! remark* '. ;* < n
nreiy fallacious. Tboy cmfmas aaaitamabif Tins
? an erroneous urs. They are somewhat warrant
?<l in their remarks by the Kentucky. Cadled the
Maysville, ease, but it was entirely unfounded. 1 be?
lieve they claim <n ihe law of charitable use Such
i.m t? a public u?e It i- called so because the argest