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FRENCH DEPUTIES ON PORK.
FINAL DEBATE ONLIFTING THE
PROHIBITION.
EVB-RY FORM OF ORSTRUCTION EXHAUSTED.
_ nA-GFR5 OF TR-CH_NO.*__-COST OF ESSTEC*
_-0S_l-O_lTI0X Cdl-N<---D BY THE ACTION
OF OERMANY AND 1TAI.V -AMKRICAN
IN-TECTION lUDlCUU-D.
. ,.? from d**r*-f ln tho I'honibeT ot neput'.es on the
bm, t* am-nd.*d by tbe Senate, November to, 181)1.
Vr JaMl Slegfrled?Gentlemen, the bill whlch ls
bmti??d to you ha.> for lts object to rabo tbe generai
____ ?- *?r bB RA,uyl P?T* BmM are eoncerned, from
?JJ frJ4nr., the pre.*ent rate, b> 25 francs tho 100 kilo
^fkTxO A M1N1MIM DITY OF 15 FRANCS
*Kh ' LATER ON,
Yon remeniber that ln lts -Itting of the _3tb May last
He Chamber luid vo?.*d for a duty of _0 francs on the
%eutrml tarlT and 15 franes on the nilnimuni tarlfr. 1
xBX only B8J two words as to the mlBlmtim tariff,
? |_eh does not enter Into this question. The Setinte had
,o occaxlon to pay any attentlon to lt ln fact; It ls n
auestion whMh B_l arlse later on. lt ls proper.
' rthflet-*. I think. to sny at once tliat wb-n wo
dnally vote Uie gen**ral lariff blll lt will be ptudent to
_i_.ee salted nirats ln the minliiaiim tariff, wlth a lower
__?', tor the rea?on that lf wa wlsb to obtaln from
th. Americans concesslons In other artlcles-thelr
Intie* ?* )'ou KT,0W are "**-" blgh?we shall have to
l,r able io show ihem sc*me advantage ln return. If
?alied nienis are only plai-ed ln the generai lariff the
Atnerlcans wlll submlt to our dutle*. but we will hnve
Bo argument to put forward to obtaln concessions in
th*air tariff.
K6B, from the polnt of view of our National ln
|u?try. BiJBB we hnve before us a Nation of more than
?ftO<V>.OiV> Inbablti.nts, whlch ls rompos<*d of numor
0_s, and. a*- a rule. ricb consiimcrs, it ls very Im
portant tbat we should be able to have our lndustrial
lmducrs enter tbe I'nlted s_ib>s under the best pos
slble condition*. I repeat thnt from this polnt of
riew alone lt ls B608BBB-I t-iat salted meats should be
put ob the mlnimum tariff, a* well as on the generai
_u.fr. Bnt for the present it ls this lnst alone whlch ls
under dl-cussion.
A THIRTY-ONE PER CENT TARIFF ON CHEAP
FOOD.
Yon toow, gentlemen, that we had voted a duly of
20 francs on salted pork ment-.; this duty represented
"tirxmf.y 25 per eent. The s. nnte. however, found tliat
__s was not sii_h?nent, and raised it to *_& francs. whlch
repr-Mrn;* 31 per cent. ^Vell. gentlemen, I ask you,
l? not that inanlfe-tly exc**sive. Is not a daty of _1
per cent impo.-ed upon a food product of the greatest
6NMM6BB) npon a product whicli ls only consnmed by
the working classes of town aud country. and whlch
lontalns a large amount of nutrltive qualities, abso
Intcly e_re.->ive? I think that this argtunent onght to
seUle the .uestion. Thnt duties should be put on ex
penslve products. consumed by the wealthy r lt__.es,
I understand up to a ceriain point; bnt I Indeed hope
thnt U>e Chamber will not conimit such an error as to
put duties of 111 per eent on product*. whieh ar? con
Htned only by the working and the poor cMaaaa. and
ahich are exfellent food for the pnblic.
pi. HHbTTloN HAS IK>NF. NO GOOD To FRENCH
WAMMBEB.
Still. if this duty of 25 franis would .urely benefit
our .igrirulurc, I would coiisent to It. But lf we cast
a glance over tlie statlstirs, what do we see. The
Bacree of probibltion was published in 1861. Has lt
done any extraordlnary nmount of good to agricuitui. ?
Tlie number of head of hog-- N altnost tli<- i-aiiie to-day
as before 1861. From this polnt of vlew there has
been, ;hen, no lmprovement. As to pilces, has the
probibltion tansed them to rise1 Not at all; the
price,., ln.-tead of rising, bave rather gono down. The
prohibitl >n bas then bad for a consequenes neithcr a
great deveiopment of our breeding Industry nor an
lucrease in prlces.
The truth is Uiat the probibltion has had no other
result than tliat of deprivlng our working people of
an excellcnt food whlch baa not been replaced by
natlonal meats, whlch are of a superlor quality nn
aoubtedly, but are too expensive.
The question 1_ now whether the duty of 20 francs
per 100 kilogrammes whlch you voted lately is not
HJBcient. At the same time that the chamber,
n?olved to fuUy protect our agricultun-, vot4*d it, lt
Iicd the duty on living bogs at 8 francs, and on meat
ot slaughtered animala at iii frauc..
If tbe Chamber eonsidered that these iptlea, whicb
r?present 8 per cent and iii lier cent of the value of
Uie products, were sufftcient to protect the breeding
of the bog. bow can lt, loglcally, now vote a duty of
;jl per BBBBB on the same nieuts, simply becauso they
ar*? salted 1 The duty of UO ft.iics, whkh we had
iirevlousjy voted. represents nlrendy au additional
prote.tion Ol 8 Maaea per IOO kilo(-r_nim?_s'. It
seems to me tliat this protection is amply suflicient;
and I really do not understand why the Senate raised
the rate to 25 francs. I hope. then. that the Chamber,
reeocnl-big thnt there ls an inteict po.-ttively d.-mo
.[_.!.? Involved, that of our working populatlon, whlch
I, so much ln need of belng able to flnd cheap food,
will maintain lts former vote and will not consont
|6 the increase n>ked for.
However, ln order le make a compromlse, we have
thought that a dlstlnction migrut be mado a-cordlng to
tlie (piality; that the 1mm might be put on one ?ide,
a having a liigher value and not In a speclal raanner
bitere.'ting Uie worWng clacses, and ordinary bacon,
_t:d the 4.houlrlers, wlib-h are sold moro clieaply,
on ihe other side. Con_4__uently. we bave handed in
an umendment whicb, whlle accepting 068 duty of 25
IramB on hams, the piice of whicb is about 120 francs
for tl* 100 kilogrammes, re-uces to 20 fian.s the
duty on bacon BBi shoulders, tlio value of wliich is
about *0 francs. That would still make a duty ol
_S0 per cent on liams and nf 25 per cent on fcaaoa.
It ?eem> to me that under thaaa COBitMoni the lnterest
i.f our breeding industry wiii be al.solutely guaranteed,
and 1 h ,pc that the Cl_amber will arcept'the amend
B8Bt vvliicli rny colleafc-ue and fricjid, Mr. Faurc, and
1 h.iv?? handed in.
XO O'NVENTK.NAlI. TARIFF FOR AMERICA.
Mr. Henry i'.ou.her (Reportera?i/ientlemen, Mr.
?agfHai reniirided us thnt Ihe -senate had suppressed
tl.e duty whi.h tbe Chamber had voted in the mln
Imam tariff ot. salted meats. and BBB flB-Bl us to take
at oii.-c a positlon In opposltion Ut the vote of the
t p|aer Hon-.-.
I will rejaly Ua our honorable colleague that such
b perhap- not our role. and that this ls eertalntv not
?_ hour to so act. IMa ls not the hour. for there
bae tjuestif.n here of the n.lnimuin lariff. the conven
ti',':.l tariff ?K*lng ln foree until Februai. . As you
WMI know. the duty of *-.:,(? bBBCa, 'jnscrlbed in the
.'?:..-,-I t.i.iir. wa- reduced to 4.50 frnncs bv treaUes
Mgiied in 160] with I.irtugal nnd Italy. Conseiiuently
lliii duty wlll n<ces-_irily continue io be appli'-d up
to the B-gtrattOB of the MbbMbb of commerce, duiirii'
all the gartei whieh the law aa are discussin. is miare
B-BBdaU. m.-ant to cover. We are not failed upon,
IL.-!,, to (hs(ii>s il for the BB886B4, The auestion to
letermlne .-. w.'.i.r duties shall be imposed urxan the
Am.-rl.aii impirlatlotis. to whlch the conv.-i.tlon ,1
larltf d.-?s not in any way npply. For these the gen?
erai b.nff alone. I repeat, i- under disens-i..'
hyi*(xi:!ticai_ frohirition - fketended
anxikty for tiie 1mri.ic health.
Mr. slegfrled said tbat the inUiest of the most Ir
8or'.,!,t eoa_a_B8r. the one who was noor and Iisin B68i
U :. .t ,,t b low getoe. i-> l.ivohcd ir. a illBBl manricr
in the eaaaMaa. m t*.o name af Uiis tatoeaa-, wi.id.
-bwilutely l^gs for your iM-iaevoinice, he advlses vou
f, agfeea Ita Maaaaas ?f duty voted by the ?aaata,
aaja aaaM Miertti MJaoa 9, i wmmt tmmm the
M*Ttlons alreiidy made before the other Chienb'-r
Bnd ln>ist upon them.
t'ertainly- I am In no degree a partl^an of prohlbb
Uoii, erp 'lally of a bypocrltic.-il pn.hlblt on, 4li,_.-iilvd
-tader pretended anxiety alxiut tlie public health. w hi.li
liaa nothing U> Oo wlth it. liut what I aaaaH 9 that
? !-? prohlbitiin has bad tbe effect af MeiaaaMB M BBl I
MBBarHaaa the in-.Klii.-Uon of pork meat bi France
Mr. Jourde-That is a mistake I 1 asked lo bt nl
-MM to speak.
lha Reporter That DOt only the consumer has not
mffered, but that the production has developed ln
t really *st__i___.ag ji__rii.ei. You wlll allow me to
g-'avv ii to vou. i,iv d.ai (..llesigne.
Mr. Joard4.-There 1? u faJliug off of ten niUlion*.
The Repoitcr-'II-.- <iu.->t,',n of a deeline tn the
Ottre nt j-orl- meat- duiinp tbe pe'l"d of pn>hibltlo:i
B biday v-ttled; It is ubsolutely shown that 888888
mve g'ane down fi-oin the average price of 1.1', '"
1.30 fnuic,, wm) to upeak M the price of 1.10 francs.
There 1-, ln any case an incontestable WBfBgM <i"
?llne, shown by oflicial statlstl.rs wbich you know as
901 as I _o, my dear colleague. Henc**foith thi
l?oiiit (ani.ot be disputed.
H U (-.ually ceriain thnt lmportBtiotis havlng
mmxtA. this ci/rlous fact was produ4<-d, that fOOBtB
l-oductton completely -.nlliced tor our coufcnmptloi).
h ?M better aUli. for lt develOD-d even bevond oor
home eonsnmpUon, nnd onr ajnVulture hecatne he_re
forth an e xporu-r. and wlth a d-greo of progress tliat
surpasscd all eipecUitlons.
ANOTHER BBBBB <>F THE HKAIHOOB.
In 1880 the ImportuUons of salted n.eat- a.nounted
lo 48,000,000 franei.; tho Importoilon of live nnlmals
to si ,000,000 baaaa, or a laaal of oo.000,000. Haa
much did we export at this period ? Tho BipoiMllBBB
of salted nieats BflWBBMi to only 5.800,000 itancs. and
those of live nnlmals to 2,04-1,000, or 11 total of
T.800.000 francs. So that our market for Uta par
******* artlclc was _eht?r ln the great MltBIIBlll?ll
balance for more than (U,000,000, nearly r._,000.
000. Now, what ls to-day the situation aft-r ten
years? Hero it ls. ln 1188 salted meats wero only
Imported Into Fnujce to the amount of 5,7..l.ooo
francs, and live aitliaali |0 tha amount of 2,4.'18.O00
francs, a total of ., 192,000. Tlie uipifllflBoaa
amount t<> 4,420,000 francs for salted meats. nnd 19,
0-2.402 frnncs for live anlmals. or 24,:.n2.000 fnunB.
The proportloa is reversod. Then the bnlaiife was
entlrely In lavor of the forelgner; It 11 now 011 our skle;
we are now rredited for Ki.OOti.ooo francs.
In lHt-i we lost ?>2,000.000: in* 1880 we galncd
1H.000.000; dlfference, 78,000,000. Such ls, 1 repent,
the hnppy result brought nbout wlth us l.y tho pro
hibltion.
Certalnly, In ihe present clreumstanc.s, we ennnot
a-k yon to ipaintain It. We deslre that the tariff
legislation of Francs should appcar elear, hourst, loyal.
like Its prodnctlon and its romm*ree, to the foreigner;
wo do not deMre to take a decepllve attitude b.-bind
prccautlnns of hyglt-ne nor of internal poliee me.-i-ures,
purely pertainlng to the UirifT, and whlrh ln the
present stiito of International relntions would bo excep
tlonal; but we cannot compromise the re.ults so
forruna_>ly acqulred hy abandonlng our agrlctilturists
wlth an lnsufliclent protection.
I am well aware thut my honornble Interrnpter of
n few minutes Bflja wlll declnre Uiat if wo export more
and lmport less it ls because onr consumptlon has
decrensed. nnd that It ls the poor consumer, that one
In whom he is cspeclnlly Interested, but not more so
than I am, who has pnld all the expenses of this
sanltary wnr, lt is he, he declnre-. who con-umes less.
Well, I am piing to try nnd reply to ldm, not wlth
the aid of statlsllcs, for we have become very sr-eptical
M regard to stallstics, but by the aid of booklteeplng.
Yes we luive in our hands a system of leiMBJBta
admlrahiy well kept, day by d:iy,?tlmt of the octrol
ol Uie city of Paris.
lf 1 sueceed ln provlng to you that In this city ot
Paris. where they know how to study the net cost, and
where they wouM not think of continuing to eOflBBBBS
meats whlch cost moro than others, lf they could
be replured by a food capnblc ot glvlng the same results
without himlenliig to any g__ter degree t_e fnnilly
lncoine; If I sueceed, 1 say, In provlng that, not only
tlie proporllon of the consumptlon of pork ment ls
malntaliied at I.rls, but that it has even devcloped
much more rapdly than Ihe consumptlon of oUier
meats not aflected by tho decree of 1881, I will thafl
have the rlght to say thnt the metiMirps. even pro
blbitlve, whlch we mean to replace by 111 >ro lll?eral
ones have not been contiary to the Interest of the
consniners, on whatevcr point of French t.rritory they
may live.
Now, here are the statlstlcs, nbsolutely ineontest.
able, whieh the octrol furnish ns: ln ls so thei-e
entered Paris 011 the one hand 104.OOO hogs, tbe total
weigi.t of wiii. ii iu fresii aaaal Baaa?rtei lo 11.120
kilograinii.es; 011 tbo other band, there entered both in
the abB_B of MBBh Jiieat. coming fi-.in our pmvln.". and
from nhroad, and lu the form of salted meats BBBOrMi
from Amerlca, 8480 kllogtamme.. The lotal of the
?importatlons subjected to tt* octrol ta\ of Paris. fn.io
whlch nothing oseapes wo.th being taken into BBB
sl'leration. nmounts to 21.0<X).000 lilloginmm s ln
round tmmbers. In 1888 there entend into l'.-ui .
fl.,5,000 hogs, the weight of wlileh amoiinteil to 81348
hllogrammes. The Increase of tl.e populatlou being
granted, there is, you wlll temnt-k, a p.reeptible de
erea-e in the consumplion per Individtial of beef BM at
ln the capltal. I re_ret it like you, but I must polnt
out this MflB. On the conti-ary, the proporllon of u-c
of pork meats rcaehes 19.00 per cent in spite of tho
prohlbitlon.
What eonchision ean we drnw from these few
figures, whieh, as I said, are absolut. ly lnc-mtestable I
Thnt In this country of Franee, when the produ-tlon ls
not. dlscouraged, it ls of a nire and truly nstoni -hing
ela-tici.y. The progress made by our bre-.ling in.
diisiry is not to be BattflBBtSi only by tho comparatlvo
ly feeble inrreaso ln onr llvestocli by these 450.000
hops more that Franee feeds than In 1-81. buf it
tells al-o and pariicularly in tho volume und weight
of IhB anlmal. If the French brcedlng Industry. en
eonraged. or rather not discouraged, BBOeeeifl iu jiio
dueing more mcat, lt ls uot only because tho livestock
has beon lncreased, but also because the value of tho
BBBM itself has been lncreased, nnd Its early mntB-itv :
and thus this result, has been reaehed that we have
gnlned ln fiTe international balance of trade 78,000,
000, and we have, besldes that. proenred for the French
consumer this double ndvantage, of reall/.lng an eeon
omy nnd of increasipg on the other hand his ali
nientary resources.
OTHER F.t'ROPEAN* Dl'TipS ON PORK.
Mr. Felix Faure-Aecording to the Keporter, all
European countries have iinpn-ed, a duty higher llmii
that of 20 francs. This i- an a-sertion llial I i.m
forced to contradlet ahsolutely. and I bring to the ..up
port of my statement some of U.e custom MflNB tariff,
whieh cannot bfl conlradictcd. It is true that in (icr
many and Italy there exist-. a duty of _:, fram-, but
outside of these two Baaatriea IBa tox la ____? Ihaa
that whieh is proposed to you. Au-tria, for eoniinon
nieats. goes only a. far a- ! ?"> frata-s; -paJn ****** *
20; as lor Greece, the duty ls 15 ftraaea; tot BwHaer
land it is 4 francs only, and for ________ 8.18 _____
. . Thus in Uie greatcr part of the countffcfl of
Eurepe, where saltcl tt*** nre llable to a duty, this
duty is even less than 20 francs. I add that in Nor
wav, in DaaUB-ri. in Englaiid. in I'.elglum. there is 110
dutv the 'vstem of excmptioii is aj.plied in all these
countries. 'ihe houorable U.porter luis told you and
vou may well have been Impressed wlth tliis llgure,
wlileh ls indeed of a natiire to iulliieiice vour oi.i- i..:i
ib-it i:i Delgtam the duty is 80 francs, and tbal eonae
nuently om- eoo-mna- o_c_t not to eomplaln a paving
25 francs. BBt Ihto is an error. i repeai it; 111
lielgiuin the aclmisM..., i- absolutely free. AlthfluMi
pcrfecUv eonrloced as to thla, I befleved thai 1 <sich ,
for Bbaolote eertataty, to tetograpb to the Frencli
Comml-General _? Aatwen.. and bere to the answer that
1 bare recMvei __? ____laii "SMIed taaato t*om the
.nited si.tcs are admltted free." 1 wu rtoWJhej ln
tnalnlnlning thM ln Helglnm there 1, not a dnU 01 ?? 0
(ranea m -alted meats. aa the 1 ;<?]>,>.?-r boa jfflnned.
Vou will ackuowledge, genilemen. that you raiinot ex
pr.--- au opinion 011 a poiflt BO ~erii.ua a- tm- Without
r.nore co.uplete itfld. tt the qneaUon. (" VeTJ fOOd :
Very good r from scveral bBBBbBB on the Rlght and the
(^ntna.) ,-Kin-AixTY OF BBPBTBAIX.
The houorable Iteporter has fiually laid BtTBflB on our
?situadon whiih would IBBfltt f-OBI the absence of
market-. Nottibly. lie has recalhd U.e iact thnt we
expoi-ted Into BBMfl in l-~0 1W.000 hogs. Sjniu. he
says, intends to ratse Ihe duiy and lo Ifl it at 'JO
fiancs per enpita. Have you ev-r iloubt'-.l II 1 1>0
you not know that the a____a_l sv-teni wbi.h _M 1-8
joriiv udopis will fatally lead M ivtaliaKuy BBBSMireal
What! Are you asU-nl-hed lhat. afler you haw -11b
mltted the product, of the Ilssrian Peniiisiila lo Ilie
IIWlBiaal faa are aware of, the PPflflMaM BTB P<f
parlng, In thelr tttrn. to raise certain of th.-ir cluli.-. I
And riflCB I *m siK-aklng of Spain, I ___-?! that the
Mlatotar of 1 ..biic Wmmt ls not nrcs.i.t. The Ituatlon
ln whieh we flnd our-elves i-e-ults 1,1 1- al ity from Jarta
ade-iuatelv studied. The Mlntoter of Publlc WtrtB
4-iv i--.-i;iiv revoked Um eonannallofl of this
... ireVi.l coalis di...iui-b"?i by 1.-O..KS. lon
is wbv v. ___. MB be aa-prtoed, Bhe tn- Bejvtter.U
cartfo -.mntrl.-- that we BflflBl M b.t t*m*MTOf .cpri.
rr,o<:nEs.s hackwakd.
'?Hut ? says the BafBlMr, "proMMUaa or tbe eleva
tion of dnties. preaaataa KBttoaal proiai Uoa." wiu y....
pe-adl a* gentl-men. tc cxan.lne ta what, way this
???,,., af aieiflBtloa to-r-ap*ahoBt? Ihave noial
i-i ihe _gti.altu.-al statlsti.s of Knime (Beporl t_ 188BJ
bm IMeraB-Oi iBarea; to IMB. at tha tea whaa
tho custon.s tariff wa- lower. d from 80 BBBBB * M
eeattflMa Mt ?Mad n.eat-, the Baaahar M bbBbb to
PVbbob was .1,037,74:: head; ta imm, tmatt *****
after. at the very moment when wc i-batltatad for U*
cxiremely IH-tal ******* ** rfWjf4^ f-JJ
attained T.14^?8 J^Jg,,^iL&^___^.
!_________---__ S U08.000 l.-ad, Mr. : IS per cent.
Mr. Ulotteau What 1- the flpufl ''u.(>11 ?,.. .,..,..
Mi. Felix Faure-1 11111 golnir m tell > mi. 1 ...H
fcoUear-e, Ow anaat* V* found la tha a. .-c.iti 1 ?
1.ti, - year la_U. You can BBU thOTJ that -
the
om- .swliu- hreedlng.
i-?rO exiicih at Ihe same- polnt _s ln JHi_. II lt is
nrograu that you seeh, l Judae tba. you bare ntrt found
lt b. tn- _______ that you have beea p_). M t?l<c
r-\'er\- tfc.'d :" " Verv gcad !"i
Mi." Le four?The BflWBl Uiat M.11 Iui4e cltcd are ms
*\,ti\et of the reporf of Mr. Ilcsliit. -
Mr. Fellx Falire--I point out |0 fOB ihe pa?e when
^Mr^Le^fou^There may be there a faise In.preasion,
aa ln fhe lig.il -'- con?-ernlng Helgiuui.
Mr. Ml- Taura-I ouoU atr uuthorlUos: ?._-ult
them. I close l,y declnrlng that no serions ietisoii nut
lae given for Ihe ChannVr to rccon*ldor Iis rofaa .,f tho
iiioiitln of Mav nnd .fulv last. All the State- of Eu?
rope, 4'xcoptlne certaln countrlo. of Gemiany. havo
lower dnile- tban OOI-. Ilel_rl.ini, on wliich so mu'b
stie-s h_- Ikvii luid, luis not n dutv of 80 fr.inrs, but
eomptoto freedom as toontraaea. i xtree, tb.-n. to Ibe
extremely Interestlng arpin'.-nts thnt. my rol:cagu<* and
fi.onit, .Mr. Mrgfrted, has s. . fnrth. anri hoi>e that the
Chamber wiu malntnln lu the geaeial tariff the .lu'v '.;
20 francs, whlch li h.is _lr-cii.lv iido/ain<l nt two dil.erctit
tim, -. (Applauso on illlfertnt laen. I.e-.i
RK.1ITS Of THE SENATE ON A KEVEM'E R1LL.
Mi. Heytrul? . . . Wc are ralled u|aon lo pro
nounco on a citstonis duty larigiiuilly voted by Ute
ihainlier an.l i-.ii-'d by tlie M-imte. ln ti-.iil nui'ters,
when tl.e Chainlier has arrived at a decl-li.n and -BBi
the "quantiim'' of a tax, (aa the Sctinte l*-i ly nncf
cot.stltiiti.anally lncicase thi- tax.' (-Tbat. lt I""
?? Verv BBOit" on s.-vei-al bcnchcs on the Left. Inter
runtlou-.i I am <?<.:.;, nt, pantM-BOB. t.a -ulainlt Uils
ou, -t:.,'i to vo'ir appioclaUOO and that of our Mlnlstot-.
VVhate_er may lae tlie solutlon whi.-h m.-.y )?? Birlrei at,
1 will aocpt ll. becaaae I know. unlupplly. that |u
inattfr-.,,,' <oii_titut:o:iai lntsrpi_tot-_ii notiii.in i- gataei
by -topplng to iebaM when Ihe UovaraBienl and Ihe
Olher i liaiulier an; agreed. You havo tlien, gto-ttomen.
to a-k yo.irs4?lv.'s lf ihl- me--ui**, voted bv vou a il;-t
tin.,'. i- l.-iv.i.iiiy br.Nii.ht agaln before tha Chaaiher.
.Mr. lTe-.ldent-v.IH you allow nic lo BBJf to vou tlut.
a- i,-_h:-.i- the oonstttnttonal qneatton, the pret-deiiM ,>f
1?^I d.'4l(lc against you; The Senate Mia Blreadj
laMei tlio tarili and Ihe rhnmber has not urgcd the
1-4-lnt yo--. ral-c.
Mr. IY-ytml-The I?re?.lden1 ls goiad enough to remind
nn that ever slncc l*?fl the queetton hai boen tmtm,
aini ttmt the baaala, barlBg pii**<i tne tarttr, lha
Cliambei ha-. not In.latei upon claiming ltr. llght. I
tbank iiin, for hnvlng kliidlv rcn.lttdcd BM of :>ii
aiaeeieBt an.l i baa to bta aathortty. but l yet think
that it is not BBprottobto thal lha QoaariBBaol BhoaM
make us aci|iiaintod wlth it. opiiitoti on t'ls subject.
The Met thal lha U_aaiM.i at a given niomenl did not
tnalic ii-o of lts prcmgatlvr eBBBOt oe Invoked against
It nor be siiltlclent to constltute a prescrlptlon.
Mr. Camille 1'cllcian?There ls no prcscrlptloo in
thi- matter.
LOWER DIT1ES PROPOSED FOR CHEAPER fiilADES
Mr. l'eylral?rn.iuc-tiontibly. I e88_fl88jB6-4l| be
llove that It would be well for the Chamlaer t<> ablde by
lts flrst deiision | in 6668 it -ho4tld not be so, l deem if
our duty M nial.e lt sec that pork nicats, beiriR an es
scntially popular fivart pi.adncl. stiotild not 86 taxed
too high; all pork meats, especialls, need not lie com
prjscd in one and ihe same category. lt ls wlth thi-.
view- that I, with a certain tiumber of eeOeafaea from
my Departniciit and fraam tlmt of the selno lnferleure,
offered an iim.-ndnietit tetidlng U) e-MbMall dlfferent
. Ia--ifi<-allolis of piark meats. It you pr.aceed to the
iMeaaetoa of the arlicle-, we will meet you in tlw de
feiu-e ot IhM aawndaient; i.ut 1 laBBai lt. altor lha
(iovernment -hall hav,' replied to tbe 'iiiestion whirh I
Mhe tho lllaerlv lo put to It. I believe tl?- 4 hainber
would do better lo ?I****.1*. Ihe 90 francs duty. We
further .lesire. and I finl-h there. tbat the "'overn?
ment klndlv furnish mbma e..planation on one poinl.
l%B1H.lt A MI('K?aSl'4)I'[(. INsPEOTlON.
The rvgime of pri.hlhl.1on is about to 88668. We are
very glad of this, for we consider it the worst of all.
it haa been 68tahtMhai for laaltoi. eeeaMeratloiia.
Weie they well fouiuledT Ai to 6BI8-IT6B, we doubt
il. Tlierefoiv, vv.- hnve tnever etaaei to protesf.
airain t this theory whi.h, under the pr*M<*xl of 6 pos
sii.ie epi.i.'inic, preaerlbei in 8 geii'-rnl way the meot
comii'g illlMlllf from the I'nited Mates. Whal bnp
peneil I Tlio law was evnded, as it was bound to be
from tlie sia-t. Auieiican BBBBM 86888 to us, if not
trmm ti.e Unlted Maaaa, at Maal fr?,m ti,e ne-gbboring
c'-.. itri"- 4,1 Fraoee, with arhtoh she J.u- iBpertoal
c, .merclal relatlon*.
1 know rery well that th.* f'u-iom Hou.-. f-.u(.M, as
vva- it- dttty, and wiii. a niiniifne-_ f ,:? vvhi.-h l give.
it jafli-,. i.haiaeteristtra bv whieh the nalara and
origin of the meat roold be iueeraed. Bnl may l be
allowed to sav ihe Hauggter I- ofMn aaorp Bftlve and
iugenioiis than the raato-M ofleMl, ani it Meaaently
happenx that American meats aro taMoiaeea into
Fran.-e whici. a< inaiiv reeelved In Amerira the braai
whi.-h raosea thcaa t" b?.. inMieBei u BnglMh aieaM.
Mr. be t.'our -That i> why it i- n_.c-.-ary to of
.,, / ? B-teroseoMe Inspeettoa.
Mr. P'-v-tt-al l aaa ju-t gotag to meah of mleroacople
Inniertloo. will it ]a,:-n,it aa to aai oat if vv..- have
before ns meat- fron BngMni or bmbM froai Aaeriea I
Mr. l.e -Bai*?II will -how vou if the* are lu-.ilit.v.
Mr. PejtiB-?Yea, lt wlll show if tliey ar. health.'.
That ls the potat t<a wl.i.-h 1 am gotag le bbO the i't
tentton <>f tl.e OoieiuaMah lf vou wi-li to depart
fivin tho prohibitorv reglroe of -___. M wlil.b *alt
miai- were siil,Je, te.l, 1 think you ought t<> -av M
cleaily. To de-lir. oa the one hand, to allow the en
tranco into France, wlth high duty. ?,f Anieri.aii
meats, and on tlie other hand, to subject them to an
Inapection wMeh, nnder Ihe preteoec of baliiB mlcna
,,,|i!,, will become a veritable ob-laeM k. their im
nortatlon, theae are IrraooaelMbte conditlons. If you
really vvi-h tO bave Aaaericaa mei.t- enter into Fnince.
vou must maintain tho inea-tiis*- whi.h yu l.-lieve
ii,.,.?,v for the probrtioii <af the public health, If
vu ia. liere that ii woaM be Ihreatenei. Bat, al the
-aino tlme, .,>ii m,.-t take -in h mea-ure- that coin
merte may looagiliii the Mri lhat .vou have real-t.
ce;i-'-d to wisli lo i.rohibit them.
THE PROHIIUTION STATISTIC.. RIDDLF.D.
Mr. .lonidc The Rep4.rter tells us that tbe pmduc
(ioii of pork and its consumplion havo in.rea ed pro
dipioiisly, whilo I BBB-llahB to ;.r,irni nnd iBBBBB
itraM lha* at Uils very bbmmbI wa M_?e a deii.it of
.i-.c.ii,-.;i MiograaaBBaa aa asaaaafai to IBflO. There
61* vaiitniK at the pirsent timo for the con-umption
of our country in 868* meats 48,00-^000 kilogrammes,
a'.d if from the-e if.oio.ooo kilopraniines the total of
importatlons fn,m tl.e I'nited MatBB, wliich WBB
;iT.'.i:i!i,l*"a kiloirrammes, bc 'li'.liicted, tliere Mlll re
mains n deflrlt for Ihe National jaiodu-t oflO.07_l.BM
kilogrammes. This w l...w tho eonaaaiptloa ha. m
'"ivV'u's contlni.e our iihierraM-BB. In lflBO we lm
D-rted, in i"?i"t aambara, 44.,.Ha.a.o.ao Btopuiaa mt
l ltr-1 i.H-at. and we exportei aboal MM? ThJ_
rflmalned 37.939.000 kii< grommea, whieh, a.ld4*d M U.e
,m?un.- p.,vi.,u-iy lndle_ded aa extaUng In Me eaaa
,rv. _ive- B total "f 3373T4_8M kiha-'iainu.,-- Thll
WM Ihe tolal Of the c.ii-uiiiption of our .'...'it-v.
Mahe Ihe *amc raleaMtton for IBUB: you hnd oniv
?. 7-T.i .1 of 2.0.203.011 hUogranune-; Ihe ilnerenee i>
.-.Kll.f-ll kiloiri-Miiime-; ihl- ll tlio total amount aaf
*_1 .h'w'defi. it Mw .... urred. it is not by maaa
of a la.k ,.f -io. k: Ibey eooM eonanBie more, tor thev
exportei In 1880 but 54.000 nnlmals and tln-y c\
i_____-d 185.000 iu iHni). ,,
1 if"ihe. averaae ol prMai - aMe ln my favor. II ap
peii's to tue, Mr. fteporier, Ihal you will bo em
barrassed Io lu-llfv y.mr thesis.
The a .-;.,;_?? price, whlch was 1.68 f.-anc- in H-ai.ce
i? ik-.. |, i.;(i. per UhfTBa. la 1800. *l_*efcve
tho ii'-hcit ..f i-.iaou.iMH) kUognuoaaea and Ihe fla
eraase of prlcea indi.aie lhat vou huve eooriiarahli
rodoced tbe oonsninpilon.
Morcover ;,- i,-_*u-.i- Ihe total- of export.itlim Bf
whlch von have made aae .... Ur. Beportcr. rou
bave oertalnly nol MlMi w pei?.!v- thatJa 1888 Me
anhrniH exported were purchased trom u- by forelgneta
m a arioc hlg_a-r than In I88B. I havo made th.
.livi.-lon of ti.-) value by the nuii.bor of animaU-num?
ber civfn Iv tb- Vinl-ti-v of Acri.-iilture-an.l l bnd
t.i,at tbe prlee whid. wns paid to us by foi-eiKiiers was
1.14 fiaii. s iH-r head of -wine. Lcl u- make Ihe sunc
cal.-uintion pp M 1888, an.i w,- Bai Jha4ea?h rear
the prtce Ikh gone on ilmliilahlng aud thut the, laM
rear In 1888, tlie price 1- I.ut 9s.
The Re] ? :ei Tl'-n <lo nol objoel iii tbe name of
the conannier. - ,. ,?
Mr Jooi-e-I do not objed on a.,.,uni of taa fla
,-1-,-a-' iu prioe, bnt on a.connt ,rf tln- qnantlty ot meal
?f whi.-h v<m deprive the French marhel- too say
lhat von bave exteaiei the < ammnipUon and lm ireaaed
tTi,- nnniber of -wine when all the staOaUw of the Ooa
ernmenl prow Ihe eontrary. I JM not make tw,,
anv other proof than IhM one. Tl.is <|..e- ion should
be BBoaa aai nee-niBfl hf all wIM feai Ml ...
INiINTlNfi AT TIIE KlVAI. 1NTKKK-TS.
I do not ii.criiniiiale her- anv one. but ll.e laflMw
ln cunti.d poihIs who think that tney are Ihl-BlBBBi
BheaM eo_B8 nnd sny so: Uie men engiiwl M lha B8i
?aherlea ar B-J?ae lahertea who alao thlah lhat they
-ne thieateoei bv (he porh aacat, m/ottsi bv its Ma
,?,,.. vdflJi COBM into eOBB-tttMa wlth Iheif I,.<"lmt
.loui.i also mw -". bm 't tmoiM n..t bedeetored thal
. rk 1,1.1 5 i.i.healihv. o4- thal French aarti uit.ne
,i- in it it- Pfoiit. tor the itotutea thow tbal Mfll
J;;;. ini.?:r,:,.,,?. was bi it- ettaa-t, thev -old bbbtb
ptoiuef - an.l ai MghBB nri"--.
A 11ACK-STAIRS BPVOST AT PROHIUITH )N.
I will only sav B woi. nion- abOBt (ho propo-lt.,,n
Of one of our collcau'uc-. Mr. I_8 <o..r. who BaBB tho
-v i,in of nib riagi-iiphy to verlfy the nuality af lha
MOdaeM at cntii.uce.
i eaa BfliaialaBi Ihal vou should prohii.ii; bM
really M 86886 and :,? :_ the appli. ation M Mfl in.-lho.i
of mlcriagrapliy lo the 6_?IbbMbb 6f the garl n.'-at
,it|?i- it would nol lae knovvlng ihe Ihlag thM 9
-pol.en of. or it would be 6 l.a.l.-lau;- eilort lo 08886
bhck'to woi-e than prohlMtMo. \Mmt aaaM lha
iipplnalion Of thi- lyste-B of ii.lci-..gi-..|.bl' amount lo
or lead t->: Uo ..?, kaaa whal naai be aoae w
examlne alted meati wlth a asleroaeopa l it muat be
,?. in iUcea: tor trichlofl l- a venr sharp linio aninu...
lt nppeai-, who triea Ui hi?l" MmaeU lu Ibe -m.-.ii. i
corn ??- and it v..,?i.i be n.aaiii to eal Mto aw
Mr. Ain.ari'l lie-l.i.- All Um meat:
Mr .louide la li nol Irue. Doclorl rhere K.-nil'
men i- 8 i omp.',4-nt man. and be 86-0-8 vvllh IU.
UefngeraUon or mlcroacopy are 1.vfo.r? n.,1 to be
thoii'hl (l 'il"'-' -yatcai- ::'? luopphoible i.i ?-!?' a
m-iti.rs One mu-i le- ciMitent wm. the examlnat-on
of exnerU, of men belonglnB U> Ihe trade. arbo aia
ablo to indge ,,t ihe .iimlity ?>f a proian by hmidlliig
ii i,- 1, (.kli.i. ut lt. i.n.l 1 'oul'l BO. i'-!"-at Uio iiui.li
mmmi l had IM honor of mrlna n- tha Cb taiber dnrtna
il,,'. BOB-k 'f Mav la-l. N.iiher in Fran. e nor .-Im*
vbere hav.- th.-v eatablUhed Uie aalirte. uf a aMide
,.,M. ?f tr.r'ii.i- romlng trom American meat- raej
bave Doted tricMno-i- '" eartaln roontrtea ooly, M
i.eiin.-.ny eaperially. aai Ui the Unltei iBaaeB. oa ;.<
',;,!,? J,. Um .uiiiiaiv haWU In Met. tha i.einmus
do not iw.k thelr porh: the OenBaaa of i..-ra,,,nv ,,r
,|,,-e 01 U.e I nil.,1 .-ta.'- Ifl th- "|,|, ,,u|c of
Eraendeben, eapeclaUy. nll pei-oea mtectm had con
.tinifd DOrii in Hi crnde "tnte. and it wa- nol nn
Atoertcan totU bot a pM rMaei. tmm Md aai kllled in
,i,. c.inti-T: all th..-- who bai Mohai tn.- ....-at a
.v momenti only ln bolllii* water. remalned ua
h.nuv-d No eaaa happaaei n f-apoe or aorwhera
,.l-e i ask. iii'i-f :-? thal tl..- Chamber v?ie th.
DTopoalUon of Ibe Oovernmepl to reafl U-. Barraa of
I ...,,..v \r i___-i. A- i ? the duty '?> I* aj.pllcd to
thi- pr-Kluct. I hav- ii lo whal MM. Mla Faure,
M,'_f'?-'l and Pcvtral have -ald wlll. more mithotitv
ihan 1. l"Verj well: Verv well'".
[iKI'DTK OV Tt'TM. PSOIUBI-IOJI.
Mr. Ii_.r_e '?'?utienv ii. Ihl B8B8BB-I8BI wl.ich 1
MWB IhB hon-.r t.. ul.mil M P-i -88 B6 "Iher alni thxn
the ninliitenajice. pure nnd .lmple, of llir dw-n- ,,f
February 18, ISfll, prohlMtii.g the linportaUon Into
France of aaltcd pork mcau coo-lnf from tha I.nUed
States of Amcri.-a. To defend lt I take my _arwl vlgor
ously on hygleiilc giounds, to-Vlng all e**********
theotk-s aslde.
salted ptuk ment. are met e.vlti'lvely consumed by
the faiuiij.-. of worklngm,... b> ihose laborei. of tho
city and country, who have all tbe BbBflB a rlght to oar
j sollcltudc tluit tlieir sole means of exlstence is lu tlio
rflJOf of thelr B____ta, _'_ activiiy of their b.xly- Ut
i a w?rd, In good ii.utlh. li i liave preaaaied my aiu.-nd
1 uu nt, it ii i.oca.ise i am eanrtnaad u.at you aaa <i ?
j~>-ed io make aii eftorta to removc from them, to reu
] uer BapoeaBiM -ven thu BBS 8. BKflU as BBbflB-thJ. 88
1 BBBBBHBU as :h(_8ft Wttfe whieh wo are BbOttt to occupy
\ ouisi'lves. fo-ds wlu. li can.. ln thil.iscivc-. toimldBbia
, Bflnaa, against #hk_ we are peaerfcaB to indicate tho
I i'.-t reiiieily. . . . You wlil ivmcmber tlmt ln
I lt*-1, under the sl.uk pr-idiiced by the di-covery ot
| tttehleae iu pork _____ .hicii hwi come from AflBnea,
iho Inportaaofl ..i theae uatU wa- probJbBed by .*
| deeree under date of Fvbruary 1-. 1881. At the samo
? Ume tho Mlniter of Agncultiiro and lonimerce lnvilcd
j a con. .iit.itlou of the Academy of Misli-lne upim tbo
| aabjecl _i trtehfeioato, An it.i<'re-tli,g di-cu.-_._i waa
brou_lit about. at the rlose of wlu. h tne Miuister of
OoBunereo, under data tt Baaeaiber 27, 1883, toaaed
a Baa deeree reuiovlng the Interdlctlon pronoaiic I iu
1881. lf I have noi ihe atitlioiity requlsiie tn
criUcise tho dlscusslon entered Into at the Aiademy,
ma> 1 ih veribi-le... Ij_ periniit.-d to show ihe .ingular
n .li aiialned by lt In furnlshlng arms as well to tbe
aartlsaBfl as tc the udver~arle* of prohlbitlon. In fart.
tl.e Mliii-.er made u-e of lt to Ju-tlfv the removal of
the prohlbltkni, and Alr. l*aul licit lo have the llium
ber vote. a few dsvs aftcrwatvl, ihe followlng resolu?
tion: "The Chamber, eo_a_____8 tliat lt ls proper to
po-t|>onc tlie liitr'odti' tlon of Atm.-rie.in pork BMBtfl un il
after the discn-s|on of ihe propi_lllou of Inw- siibmltted
to lt, pa~s_. t_ the order ol the day.-7 The Overtiinent
lmB__lat__| diforred to this rate. and ou Ihe SBtfl of
Uaoaaaher, 1888. the ".loumai ontci.-r pahaahei the
dn IB8 gtven below :
?? Ihe i-veiutloii of the detree of November 27, 1883,
is suspended; ln conse<|iience, until the ei.ait.neiit of a
law, the lmportatlon Into Frunee of salted pork meats
from the I nited states of Amerl.a rcrnulus suspended."
Flnally, in the fhnmber. >Ir. llodnl. rei>oiter c.f the
BfletaeBla commlssion of Inltlatlve, publishcd a report
-BiM luding thus:
"1. That tl.e epldcmics of trlchinosls assume In
I Amerlca and iu Oermnny Maaalroai pr- .portlous;
| ???_.. Thut Uie scvcrul hiflalnal pract'ees, saltlng,
siii'.klng, plckllug, t<? whlch lnfe?t.si meats may be
BBbJactei ar>- powerle .s to removc thelr bobIom iictlou :
?? :i. Thut lt is the duty of the iiovetnmeut to loob
| after tbe puhlle health nnd to prevent the -aie of au
unli--_.ltliy food.''
Mbob then, no further dl-cusdnn to the French
! Parllan.ent; the publlc- powers intiintaln the stiitu
| qno; trt.hino-i- has eooHBBBd lt< rnvuge- In Amerlca
I aud ln (ic-rniany ; our neighbois .III maintuln an iirinv
I of lnspectors to wtitch tiie prodtut. d.-llvered to the
j publlc, aud Fraiico has \/ieci\ exeinpted froni the
hcourge.
I Nevertheles-, a reeent tMeaaalOB in the Hel, li-tug
! aro-e to pr.ve thl.t ln (ieiii.anv tbe -Itii.itiou 4vas far
i froni being flourislilng. ln BBBBBT to an taMtpalla
tlon by Mr. Hartli, who usked for the wlthdrawal of
tln- deeree relntl.e to the pruhlbltlon of salted pork
ments from Ani.rlfi., the Mlulstcr declared that thi;
eruel dlsease Introduced Into uerinniiy bv Ameriean
ments wns st!ll n.ging among thelr swlne. -'The
piBtowl precuution . lie adhtai, ?? c.iitlnii.- to be taken :
but ti'ichiniisis still exisis iu our country ln an
tpidemic stnte, and noae ?f my eoUeagaea aaaM
aceept tbe respooalblDtjr of rcmoving an Lnterdletlon
whieh would expaae oui fellow clti/.ens t. the giavi.st
oi eoartaaitaattona.'
Vou see, gentlemon, lhat nothing ln the several
r-i.i .tiltntlou ? setnis-d by ih- (.overiiment was of a
iiisture to decide it to BbrOgBte the deeree of li_)l,
and It ls |he 1 liambcr wblcb io day ls c-alled Upon,
aptopoa of cu-tom di-.iie., to aiBBflir thi- raaponalblttty.
Aml, lu Met, whatcver be tlie duty you may Impose
on Ameri'-au BMBtB. you wlll b:-v.- ijev il'.eles, lemiv-d
the intenilction, wtiich fur ten jrean baa allowad ns
to ron.uin unbiuiiit'cl, wl.tle Ilie seoaig- cif tnchln isls
raged all around BB, iu t.ermnny. li- Igiuiu. Kiiglind,
Spiiin, Au.stiia, ete. . . .
Then 1 mn ttsklng myself, what will he the us-- of
your duty of -J.. francs lf in;t lo permit tbo entrnnee
into PBUtee Of Ain.rl-an imuu aiut tfl pai the expenses
-.-f IhB uriiiv of i.overnnieni empl >>"?- chnrged tran tb"
duty of purMiing trlchiine-l. wblcii \ou must uppolni.
tot I -aiiiiot iidmlt that yon sbiiild not taky the I '
BBflMarji ji:i < au.ioti ngniii-i thla panudte. Doleaa ta
deed you .-hould pnter io adnilt tnat \ou are eiabllsl:
ing a protec Hou iu favor of tha liut-il .".taieN, who
have tl.i-niselves placed a duty of 7.". fi-.uic. p r l.~J
kiio"> oa pork, whieh after dedoettng four larlfl of M
francs repreaBBta 38 franea per 100 Kfioa of proteotlVB
dnties wblch you woiiltl pi.-s.-tit tlieai with.
If vou nc-ept tbe system of tai-ifT. lo -ave us from
trtehlnosts, jom can bat vui; prohMllory iaBaa like
Ain-rica's.
Then, if really. us stated bv the, Mmi-ter of Agel
culture to the Tmlff .'ommissloti. the Uovern__.nl
dastiofl to have the deeree of lr-ni removc-.i. to be
ag.-cal.le to tlie VnltoA ,-l.ite-, aml to obtai . certain
sofienlngs of the tlg.u-. of the McKinle.v blU, it is not
L> se.) the prohlbilioa n!-cstubll-hcrt by means of tbe
taritTs.
Wlth tho deeree of 1881, WB may >,iv to the I'nlted
States: We prohlblt \ ou. ni-ats bfCBBaa U_?T ar: uu
hcaltby. Wlth the moderate dutles propo-.il by tbe
.iovciiiment, are iinim-h oui-vhe. ln the danfferoaa al
veiituis-s of MeMaoato. with the proMMtorj dnties,
we aeeept a atnajBM of MrUto, und it arUl be van
iliflli ult 10 prove tbat BTB ar" only BBMBP- -d bv is-a , uis
Of pubiie hygti ne. ,
1 tlilnk, llu rel-ire. --iil|.-men. tlnt wi-dom. prudenre,
the ca. ? nf publlc health ?n_l Of UM pro-petity Of OUT
agriculture coinmand Bl to luiM to the deeree of leb
ruirv ln 1881. . . . Mr. I.ev.-U- stateI tliat it BPPeaCB
tB hlm thai the B___BBtt tanlf of 1_ B_B_M p-r 100
kilogrammes B_0?M bc. aceept.d if it is de.slr.-d te
obtaTn from the. 1'nit'd States a modei itioii ,,f tln
-,-veilli.-- of the McKlnley blll. Mr. Klbot exprcssea
h.m-elf thu,: lf you an<-|. tl~- propoaltloa V t "?
Government uiu.h reptoce. la Bm prenent tortH l_a
duty of s.:.o francs by a duty of 20 __ncs, are con
sider your a^i-nt as authori/.ln_ us to removc tlu
embargo malniaiue,! -Imi- 1.--1 on ABMrtean inea s.
Uorinanr. ta fwl. has opened negoliatioiis wlth UM
ciiit.-ii >tat.-s to ihis end "nd lt i- io Ihe taterest ot
il,.- Ki-ench lo follow ___r oxample.\n-l lt I
at fhe iiioinent, wlfeii our neighbors. after [***?<!"*
niobili_.d vvltlio.it utlllty au army of more than _ >,"~~
emnlovi. spenl in vaiu hflBireu of Bdllions, innicted
io no _-s.il. M-\'iiioM-. n i??- aml unprtoonmi nt to the
ovvn.-is aml ibal"r- of poik. ari- coinpclle.! t-> open
tli.-ii- .I...I-, to tbe coiitiimiiialed iiu-hi ?. of ABMnrn,
becsn-e tb.-v have notblne bk_- t > toar t om t.-n?blm.-i-.
wblcb __? baroflM epMeaale la U__r eoantrr; II Mal
UM mome.it when our m-'iiciiltur., Instead ot Is-nu
Irlbutaiv t. foi-eign.-i- fOT poril mcat-. ha- I. ??' ?'.. I 01
the coanaiy, iii_>r privlleged mpplier; al tue uiomenl
when without havlng im nrn-d the leaal expense,
without havlng worrted our prodnrcraor.? meniiants,
our coiiiitiv can, wlth our mo-t competent wlentlB.
m,-ii. eonfldenUy proetoiai that trichlnosu .- unknowii
ln our lerrttonr it i- at IhM niouunt. 1 Mjr, that Ito
(iovernmeiit clo-,S its ,->.?- to the re.-ult- wlu, li blind
evcrvbody in his eountry aml romea aad t -ll- ns:
-open tiie doora of Pra. open then wi.i,-. swm?
il.!,, onen lo trtehlnoai-, ptogua BMre dreadfiil than
pesl oi- .holer.i. and the 1 nited PtBflM will load you
llr l-toa Borhe (Mlplatar ot Cowmeree, ot Indnatry
nnd of the Col .nle-i-The t.ovei-iitiient and C n.uiil-ion
Off BB UM coiinter project of MT. BtttA.
MKB080QI-C l\r-r_(tion MDCANOKD.
Mr. Piesld.-nt-Mi-. Le four hn< ,iib-tllut-il B irflfl - I
a r.-olii.ion. wlil, li I wlll now vc-iid to tha __BB?_#_
-Tlie ChBBBhM invltes tlie M__S_W of OOBUB?-n 8 BOl
to with.ira-.v Um ih-t.f EV___B_1 18, 1881, before the
IIBBI Ilill Bl of a IBW OB the . .tablishu.-nt ol fl s-rvice
of taspectiofl of por* mtato mt tat***m' orlfjto, latted,
BBBBfli or puBOI-Bd 'uv :.i)\ prOtOBB w li.il- hv-r."
Mr, i." Ooar I baB MJ cpttaaiara Maily to betxore
that this 1- nol, on my part, a -impi- a-lvi -. n BMaaare
of ob-lructioii. OB the tOBtHBT, I lave beCB
proiptti bv .-xtretii'-lv B__0_l niothi--, und 1 hav"
MCh pn.-edeiit- to BflPparl MB ihat 1 io not -!--p:ilr,
iiot\\ltlis:.aiicllii?r the liisiiliiOleli. y of m.v oralorbal
Bowera, t,. ohtata fi-?m th- OaranuBBBl deeteratlonj ta
mo ____ that i iaalra. l aaM M the Governmeal .mt
i? revoke the deeroe of prohlblUon before havlng Uiken
cfficuci.u- measuraa 11 urttoerve as from nn invaelon ot
luf-vtid ments. The Hlntoter >>i Agii,-uitut-i ls gomg
tu i-iily to bm that B oa* iecree l- already prexnuvu
and inat thla deeree, **to rcvoldna the oue ol Peb
ruary, 1881, wlll oiganl-fl, iu pu... iph-, B BBfTtte M
IlrtaB prcciselv to hav.- t'ie Hlntoter lioiic- thnt.
iii mv oplnlon, aiid from precedent-, it i- uupoaslble
ibai -.on a n.i..-un- be taken iOtoJ) bj a deeree; a
law nm-t ii ci-s-erily inierveiie to allow Insperaoii
t? bc orfBBtoed ..ml to lahe eB i.i *t a dntj uf ex
aa-natlon on ',,r iUM haiioroBS. i am tbat
mapectlou, surb ..- W?a __n_.er propose-, i- not snl
li. .t-iit.lv empl.f 10 i-'lve tl. al! l.ie i_uaiaiilees whlch
we have B lighl Ui deuiniid. (- Vei.,' wdl I \,-, v well I
on HM Kighl-t ? ? ? 4-elitleme,., WO have. 1 I,??
lleve, at tliis ii.omeiit, very -p'-,ial Utotives for *hu?
laa ,,ii!-,-i4,-- Bl i ii-t Bfl Bevara aa Mr. rirard, aod
tor aakini thai thla great expense be not entered lni?
iu au in.Tdtui.lI BUUincr. ln the flr_ ptote, we huvj
lu-i come 10 the . loiueut of t_e MBCOaaluB of the
boAeet nnd even dav w .- dtocnaa il. lu all its detalls,
\4itb eatreoM enerpy, to end^avor to eat-bllsh wiihin
-. law tliou-aiiii frauea ii- RiBlBbrtam. a'efl Ub-B,
i a-k rofl, I- Ihaw _?- -nyUilug iu roniormliy witn
Ihe dlpnlty -f the ParltoBienl ta andertaUng ta a
roundauout wav, by n slOiple dectv, au o _p.-u-_ whi. h
m,i\ later on ______ '" 3?O0U,(__) or S.IXW,
OOU F.i.ii'b'V,- bibsI be anpMntei; there are _o,ooo
iu uerman) ; m Ptnoco it w.n pro-abl. l>c u ..--...v lu
crente -ix* or 300. Ureetor uf Customs v.m nirely
I.| laboliilories whidi ie imt BXtol M preBBBt. It 1-,
tt,,.,- f,,r,- a nea icrvlce to be organlBed.
Mr. I.al.roii--.' Ilie ih-i-oiiii-I <b~-s BOt exi-t; it will
hav. t<> i e i tealed.
Mr lAi four-1 atn very glad of U.e liitenupllon ot
my coiica_i,. wbo knoara what It nsean. bbbi in
-i.-ctiou i- -!?-K-n of. lt ls not tbe simpb
v, i i 13 B blu- J;-.c!(--t. Wbo .ollld c-xamiiie UlC Am --.I- 0.1
im ,t- tor tin- tervire .siu,at'-.l men wlll bave ta be
de Igitated, whu will ronaed'_?nUy demand a hlglier
_i,l tr> than tb-- b.ave Wluwfl v. bo _uuid our ii-onti ....
Weii then, 1 t. -li re lhat, bavlng ln rtew respect ln
the rlgtits of Paillami-nl. It B B-_ol_t_ly il--iral,li- tuai
the OovernnMnt bb_m raowu ta a* froni th, oiooieni
wliat wlll be tlio ainouut of UM blll ti pa) I ____
iicting apoo sn.!. a BMaaare H eoaeenu us t-> know
iM.at buiiMi it wiii inpoae apoa t'ie iBaaeea of the
co.mtrv. ... I ani Im.kin?. genflemen. f.r any >ot,
iectlon thai ran be nade ?-i Uo- proposiUun wblcb I
,,v.4 the honor of brlnglng forward again. und whl.h
hn- iilr.-a.ls 1,-en ac. cptcd bv ti.e former fb..mb-i.
lan the detov whlch it. adoption w..ui.i eBBBB he
brought up :i_-lti-t me' ln tegaid to this. ther
w-,ulii ls-. perhapa. it ls liue. a iolaj -f -vei.il
week*; b-it U.i.s dela/ I- abs.lutoly n-..---ar\. and
v hate.er u.itv be tha proc-inra Wlowei. withOui grgj ?
Im.iru-l-ini-. 1 bOpB it !-? al-li- t? BhOW 4011 tluu UM
iiovernment arlU bt OhUged ta -ubmlt to li. ln
j,. r if tli- GovefBBaBU i"" *t ~- ll aaa lae in
t, i.tion oldolng. what i- going tahappenl Ad*ree
wlll be pr,.mulcaie.l. illowlng U_ i,,tr.,lu,tlon ,f
Mlll n.eits fr..u. Atueri-a. aud OitahflflhlDg ln piimlpl ?
in, lnsD_Ilon. A aetoiflldeeree wlll thon l~- tie.
,, o__-_i_e the eervlee, -OWit-tae the prerpnUons i -
,... ,,,;??. eatabBab m" -_.~<ti--- of iba uMelak, a.n.
he bureau-. and the custom b___ firmaUUes whl.h
,?, BMBta uiu-t cinply wtth. . . *VPOtt that to
morraw the decrafl _B_ov_M th<- pi~hiblil..ii ?ho_ i
-.iiuear Tln- Aniilcan .-allnl meats ar- gmi
, 'tne from nll point'- ?f th.- u-lol-S into .lliiiir porta. la.l
.,? ii,.i--rtl<.!i v ill not liave b-.-u e-tabMshed. No
, Hl. lals uo -et.ice. no ap P_>Prt_Uoa, i. i reculailou--.
Dflltag tl|r,'? n?i-.tbs our (rontler- wlll be eoin
nbtelT opened, _m will rei.Uo Ainerbaii tncat ,.
wlileh not onl> will not be sul.Jected to an I: ,-pection
but eren will not pajr the ___hicU-0 ta*. or rathor. to
bo _ulte exact, whlch wlll pay, nnd I beg the Tariff
Commlttee lo pay attentlon to this tlgnre, the rldlculotis
tax of 1 franr OB tlie cqulval.rit iti weight of the living
anlnial. That Is tlie only ss.nltiry duty whlch you wlll
be abM to eoQeel oa their etrtraaee; so that all tlds
ends ln a ron-ld-r.il,lo dxricer, arul at the same time, a
MM of several liuiMtrod thou-aml frain s for tho tro__s
ii rv.
I think It will be -ufllcient to polnt this out t-> the
(iovernment to eflBBa it M Kive up such a bad maiin-r
of prorecding, and to BVOM a danger whi.-h no OM ln
tiiis CBanber w-ontd t-.h-raie.OontMnwn, I do
not wish to retara?<*? DfleatlOB>* '-Question:")
Mr. Labroane ContinueI n M v.-ry laterestlngl
Tim Itaildfnt ?iientleinen, the speaker ls absilutoly
coi.llnlng liiiiiself to Uie -nlaje.-i utidiu- debab*. I beg
you b> listen to him.
Mr. l)c 0-886086 IX* IVadine?We cannot allow our
selvcs to be pol-.i__g without sftvlng ar.vthing.
Mr. I.o Cour-of the Inspeettoa in (le- I'nlted States,
gonflcmen, I wlll only 166 one word, BBi in tM. Iliat
plai-e, I beg you to laolieve that I have no hos.il >
feellng- a^a'n-t ihe I'nited Stato.; I have made a vi-lt
there of whlch I pr-servr* tin* mo-t agrociihl.' rt*iii'*m
Inaii.e 1 l.:,v toere exeetfeat friends, aud l bivo
for t!_a* country tlie doepest sympathy, ospoially as 11
9 one of th<* wim eoaatnea whara ieteoency ii?s been
BbM, up to tlw present time to recouclle llbcrty witli
the respe.-t for all bellefs.
RIDICCI.INO THE AMERICAN IN.SPECTION.
Rut wo must not be moro Amerlcan than th. Amerl
cans themselves; and the Amorlcans M_M great pre
oautions to preserve themselves from epldernl, s coming
from" abroad. They rccogni/o themselves that th-*y
mu-t be ou their guard, :uid thry have been the flrst
to inform us of the plagues tliat atlack thelr agrl
cultiire; th<?y cannot then thinlt it wrong ln us to
take our precautions.
In tlie Cnltod BMM-. the Edmunds Act established
an inspe. tion ln the h6t88_68. Do vou know what this
inspe. tion am 'iints to! A few ofliriuls, two or thn-e
at Chicago and at Kansas City, each examlne 1,500
hOga 6 day ln Utose ininvetise fai-tories, whicli have bO-ii
so oftcn dos.rit.od. This Is not serious. What is
ecrtaln Ls that when tho I'nlted States entered into
nefOtM-hm. wlth (ierniany, Mr, Arinour hlm-elf. tha
great rnanufacturer, BrBBOBBi to the <.?>rman liov-'-rn
me.nt to set asldo spedal factories for Uie maniifactiii-a
?f iiioi-t lor exOO-Wton and to cau_e tliem to lie Iti
neetei bv oltletal ivpresentatlves of the (Jerman
'...ivernnient.
FRENCH INSPECTION.
The Minister in hls spe<5cli has somewhat assured
us. I confess that Mr. Cirnil has made us nealn verv
auxii-i.-. Tho MlBlMBr of Au'lculture tclls us that
C'e lr.spectlon he is golng to oiir<inl_e will bo.very
strlct. What v.'ll bo this ln?pectlon ? That i? ar.
Important uue-Uon to settlo before comln_ to a de
cl.loti. Wo arc b)ld Iu the lirst place that only tho-e
meats liavini; fl I'ert'.ticab: of ii.-pectlon 06 shipment
wlll lae rotBtf -.1. I confess I do not think much of
this i-ertlbcate. We 616 also told that onlv thoso
?aaM will b'_ admitted Into France. iu the specilieU
ports whlch . .aircspond to the Mainlard ?? fullv cui-d."*
Tbis word coines up In all tha Parllametitarv debatea.
lt l.i.l been Intnadiiced bv the. liovernmciit Into lt
blll, and 1 iny-elf. full of conlidence iu the competency
,,f my pradeeeaaora, put lt Mto tho laroiao-ltloii whieh
1 hud Uio honor to preseiii. but thev wilte me from
S'antea, wlth prcaofs, that this name means nothln..
in coinin.i'ial piaettoe; tliat lt I- a simnle i-eas-iirluu
i a'lie invented i.v Importert, aomethbiK bke ?? hvgienio
.oloi-s,'' "health flannel-'' or'-sifety 104-ks.'* . . .
1 am (..nvlnc.-d. and tlie Minister, after this iv
Mre-tlBR shuwing. 4iUKht to be so also. that wo cannot
Jiid-te i.f batns l,y their appearunre: that we must ro
to the boltom of Uiins?. esp.clally when Amerk-u
Mltei meats aro concerned. Admittim. tliis. we niu_.t
Indeed rocojnil-o tbat there ls onlv ono sole mode Of
Inspectlon whi.h ran glve aeri-HM re-ults. Tho ono
whi.h i- iu opeiBttofl ln i.ern.any-iulcrographle ex
aiiiinitioii- raaii" in MboratorMa by RMarn of tue ml
citweope. the onlv s>i-ntiiic proeeaanfl an-toh is ab
-oi.it.-ly certalo.
-..MF. LITTLE TIIINi.S TIIF. OPPONF.NTS OP AMF.R
II AN MEATS WANT.
I liniih, _entl-n.'-i. I have only one word to sav.
I Bi?BBB inv-"lf IhM tlme ta the Mltll-tcr of l-orel_.il
Affalra. i aali him if a tetey ef aoreeal week. eaaM
not be prolital.lv employed ln iicgotiatlug wlth the
(iov.-i-rimeiii of the I'nited Ptatsa for the puipose nf
obtaitiing some con.t-ssluns whlch 88888 to BB to bo
rery much aaalo. i.v eertola MaBehea of ladaatry.
I take on iv ono as au tT*"~|?f. that of caiined food
prodaeM. . ,. .
When we ai*e ROiBg to admlt Amerlcan salted meats
al 6 iatjr of --'a francs, would It not lae Just that OB-JMd
vegetsbles, those es-entlally l-'rench pnntucts whicli
come out of the fttctorles of Paris and tho prorinoea.
should be no longer siibjecti.*d ln the I'nlted .states 10
?i (luiv of l<> and 4b per cut. whlch is liulv rtilnous
lor tlu- exportarl To take Paris alone. th" .-\
oortalion- uf niushrooms in bOXBB, and fi-4_.li veflBla
btes, reaeh :i,04jo,txx) franc-. Ifaotes, Bordsaax and Lo
Miii- an euuallv Interesfed it. tl.ls measure: aud I
atoo call the attentlon of the Minister to tbe unlusti
iiiii.l- proWbltloa >,f oor eeaaei araea i?e_s wiu-.i.
-HH e\i-t- iu several states ,.f the I nion.
i a-k mm agaln io tt. aad Hnd out whether it
would n-,t be poaalbie by necstMtloa lo ohtala lower
dulle- on saidl.i'-s an.l ..inned tl-.il.
I have itni-hed, and 1 hope that tbe (iovernment
wlll be willing. without waltlng for the vote, to sati-fv
BM .lem.in.t-. liefore taking a measure BO crave. the
r.-sp?n-il,illty oi whicb tt d.-claie-. re.ts upon li-elf
alone. in -pite of the _ignlflcant reservo of tho reports
of the coininlttee.. Iioth .af the Senate nnd the ( ham
i.er. before openlng our frontlera to all tl.e -.ait.d
nieals ?f America. I hope that tlie Minist.-r wlU lae
good enough to give us the assurancc that ho will
take th.- nece-sary mea-ttrea of InapeettoB, w that our
.ountry mav not bec.iue the depo.-itor. of all the
taiaited meats of Ameii.a i.nd Europe.
TIIK (ii)VF.nN.MENT I'LEDtiES AN INSPECTION.
Mr. Maa Roihe (Mini-ter of Conimerrei-Oentlenien,
I have no In.entlon of repiying in detall to the ob
-ei v.-ition- wliich the Hon. Mr. Lc OBBT has Just made
,,, rOB. Mr. L8 Cour is a deteimlned .appoiieiit of tlio
I,U1 befoiu you, whieh you vo.ed 6B66 bc.or-*. and In
ieS->i t a whieh you have Just expre-*-.d your opln
l.Mi, sline l.y I. considc.-uble majority you huve
deeliai M proeeei io a -McbbB-b of its arii
BiBa, thu- ...niiiming your voto of tlie month of .luly
1.. ;. >,,?, our clleague has iilit.i'Jy piesented tljo
,s-enii:,l obeervntlooa, critlrinu, iiuc.tions. lecrlmi
natlon. whiili have been Just uiken Into tl.e
triliune today, but under a uioie abbieviated form, IB
the -uiin:,' ot tbe 1-tb ?'"'> MM. _ n ,, . , .,,.
The A- emblv, by a majority of 3S1 ratea to 103,
disregarded them. We a-k you to malntaln your
vot,- and in tho name of U.e .Mlnisier of Foreign
-Itaiis. as lu tlie name of tha MhH-t-r of AgilciUture
an.l ot the entite (ioveinmcnt, we de. lare to you, and
there la no neceealtj of tetaooatratii-g thi-. ti.at to
I i-- the i-'-olutiou propoaed by Mr. Le Cour would b.j
10 aiiniil tlie law whlch you bave ali-endy approved.
sin. ? the majoi'i.v of the Chamlaer, after the debatea
whlch hav.- -o ofton laken pla.-e on thi- queattoo, after
the ,,,ui,let,. and piofoun.l exainliiatioii wlilcli hns
been maiie of it, as well by your Tarltf Commlttee a*
i.v ihe Chamber it.-...-lf. nas made up its uiliid on ihe
princlple of the Mw whlch li befote >..u, we ask you
10 v.,ic pmeiv an.l -iniply the blll whicli we have tho
Mr Le Cour-1 ask tho '.overnment if it wlll not be
oossible f,* ir to make known its Mtenttoai M i>
'pe. t to tiie Mapeetloo. Whea aml how will it bo
Count Arniatul-Let it say, al lea.-t, wl.at is lts
,yVhe'MlB_aMT "f Coniiner.e?The Inspe. lion will ba
onranMed M the fronttei. by the Mini-ter of Agri
rultui-e whose departraoni bai charge of tle- Inepect-on
of meat-i Vou eaa be certaln thal this orgnnii-Uon
v. m eonipriae all n,-.-.?mry measaraa of prec-uUoa.
Mr. Hlgot- Al whoee eapeoaet
Tbe Minister ol Coinmerie-At the expen-e of tho
""'rh.-'l i-i'sl.l.-nt-I put to the vote the re-ulution BTO
,?,-s,-.i l,y Mr. Ie ?'.?. . . ? Il4*rc is the n'-ult of
il.,. vote: Number <>f voten, MM; rranslte major
nv ?>.?.:!. For adoption. 134; aaaiBM. 870.
Th" I hatnber has nol adojated the i.solu'ion. Tlio
Chamber ha- now- to ,om- to a dacMton upon
iwo aiii-ndni'-nf-, one of Memrs. l'eytral, Chailes Ri,u\
_n_ AnUde Boyer, th.- other of Mea-ra. (Begfrtei an.i
1VII\ K.nire The yn.en.liii.-nt of Mr, l'eviral seem- to
BM to (litler lliole fltalll ihe t.'Xt laf tl.O COIIllllItt.'). It
,s thui coneelved: - lu pMce of tl.e w-rds teltei
Dork ineit-. Ii.-.m :.nd bacon. -j:, frams per l'H> Mlo
?lamm-s' inaerl Ua* woria *ulted pork meats, haai
?ind saus.ges. ?_?". francs per iw) klloarammeH. Bneon.
-i.o.ii.ie:-. -..te-. Inteatinal parte and toflertor ?utr., no
fian, - i?-!' IOO MMgraiB-aaB.' ?
BPTOKT PM bOWSR DUTDB 09 CHEAPER
ORAH-M.
Mr. IVytral?irt-ntlemeii. mv amendment 1? very slm
],le. ll l- -uflicieiit to read It Io under-tand it< 61668
ln-'. Wc tbQBght lhat lf the CMoaher aceepttd the
rote <>f the Senate, lt would at b-a-t I.e vvllbng to inodify
it 80 a- to u.alo* li.e parM (af salted pork wlik-h havo
au infirbir Milue pay a lower rate of duty. la fact,
hog- do nol 60888 from Aineilcii whole or i ut Into
qaartei i: thay anhra cut up. and certaii. <?f t?te parto,
-mii B8 the l.iiui, for e\amp.e, bave ,|ui<e a dllferent
value fiom that of other ltifetlor parts. -inh 68 thu
shoulder BBi th,- -i'le. The ham. ns you kn.,w. may 88
c iBlliBIBi as an aiti.le of luxury ; tl.e -hoiilib-r and the
.t-i-- eoni titiiio a iiiii.b . hcaper Moi, eapahM of belng
made axm f bj ti?- leaal wall t<a-d.. part ,-t our j.o:?ii.,
tion For th.---' leaaoaa aa _.~?_ yoa i> make a dfcttlnc.
Boa'hetaaaa hama aud ?aii-ngen on the one haai, and
ibe shoulder, U.e slde. and iw InMrter mt. on U
other We wlll iiic-pt Ihe duty of ii fiaaca tor ?..','?
r,r-i rte-s, i.ut we beg >ou ta bnpose only a duty of
?jo fi-aii, on th.- p?rta of the aacaoi (Btoaajry.
oBJ-Bonoxi io l'iwkr HiTir.s poa on-Ufn
GBADB-k
The Keporler- iicntlemen, 1 wlll endeavor M be 68
Mtol iu mv r< plv as Uio Hon. Mr. I.ytn.l M_8 ben ln
expMlBlag hi- aineudmeiit. Tlre commlttee ? anuo' ;.,-?
,,|,t Mr. IVytral's amendment for this i-e.-i.-on: Tlio
ham. the BlMli..in_ll_ mor-el, us Mr. IV-ytral said M
coiitiiisting it wlth the dem(K-nitic bacon . . .
Mr. Peytinl-I did iiot uso that wor- !
Tlio U.-partei? ? ? ? foiius only about .'. s,\ih
aaM "f the meats imported. Tlio ham-I reallv I-".
punlon for nlvlnK you Ihe-e lechnlcul detail_-wclghH
?i an Bllliap --Iv- aml QB6 B8W kllo-nainaii.-. 8T thb
(.?en kilogtummes for two hnnis. ..ut of an nverage
atlelrt of about -ev r.ty kilogrammes for tl.e arhoM
baa rut up. The ameia'.n.ent whi.h Mr. I'evtr.il ha
.?,p?-,d to vou would have tl.en Ihe reaoM of l.awcr
in. tl.e aveiace of th.* proteetloa wo ria.m t. about
? '.i'l, fmnci or -0.-0 franca. Hdw are ti??i_;ht lhat
t"ne dutv' of -J,. fu.iics wa- Indlspeii-uhle for Uie prob'c
tion ot I'grlcultiirc. 1 am ...Ing (*> give you very
brieS] th'- i-.;.-",
TIIF. BffBCT Wf HERMAN' AXD ITALIAN ACTION.
It vv.uld be au errnr to belleve Ciihi Iu ?.?tpuorUnR
bei?__-e you Iho duty of -- fr?4ncs the Tnrlff Commiltce
h*- reversed lln ovlnlon. Ib adopttng tho duty of
20 franca ln tbe uioiith ot January and ia muinlalning
It at tiie Umo of the debate on the demand of tho
Hor. irable Mr. Faure, who M M._t Ume wat Uie __?
porter, the oomrntttee curao to ll* _B_flMB under _??
ditl_is Baaa different from those exl-tiug today.
Ii caisldered Uiat Franee, b-ing ar. exp.it-r, whoso
exporUitloii was Iticrc _-ing, Bha found at her MAct
various countries opct.lng theii- ieOBB to bar exporta
tlon, ?raa ln siica ,-. posltion tliat II l~~*? **** jeBBB
slons to be n_do we ou_Tit t? .ncliuo toward the rc
dtH-tlon of daties, and i' ...?< :d,d upon the rednccd?to./
redneed in mv opiuion- rale f/f 90 Baaaa.
Today the sltii.-tlon I- chaug. I. Ai the ept_'h oi
whlch BB are s[..-_Uilig BttrOBe ABB .'II, 88 *?*????
Ameriean meais an- eoPfenMi. totet BM t--gtme of ti
Mri of i-oiitim-iit-il blookad ?, e itii l> votaBtary, whic li
had not-tag m Qu wor__ to do a.th i-.Iitii-s. bni due
to a common nnxl.ty al.. it Uic publlc h-aith; -o thnt,
(.trn.any, Italv, ?An-lria shiii Ihelr ioors -ind d:d not
i.i Um aead of se-dtog to us inelr p -incts whlcu
uerc re ,i\ed for home . onoi'tipllon. I'j duy, on lh.)
coatrary, vou bare taaa thu Uermany has cipen d IU
frotiUers ilnce Oito<..:v :t: that lialv Ims followed
siiit, BBi that 8B all -Ittcs the prohlbltion I- being
rni -ed.
Mr. I_.ydci?Italy exports to u . ...
Tho BBBQllBf Bfl tbal ara are obh.-d to take inta
ronsldcratioii the new bMbbBQB *f I'ttlj nnd rrute
,-ji. iallv Uut of (.ernianv. Tbo ll.-.oribio Mr.
Loyilol siivs to me : " It.ih -ctids iu p.__ meats to us.
What will It bo then, mv d -ar roOenne, when sn.
wlll have to struggle h-.-.lf ngain-i ihe im> .irtatioti
of Ameriean BflBBB, lf sho alreadv BBBOrtfl BeflM II
-he has alreadv a stirplu-. thi. -nrplu- will I*. in
riiiit.lv torrar, ani Oeraaany, wiu. I* benelf mi ex?
port. r. will leive Maa ta gt iid '4 UM atumafl of her
produ.tlon when her _n?____t__Hi wlll be ln p_rt
MtlflBod by the Amerh-aii meats whlch do not c.,m_
18 her to-day. - -
Tbe ,|u,--ilon ls th-o ab.-olut-h rlear: we aie golng
to be cl.prived of u.aik'ts wlll.:, I..-I _-? w.-re open
and whieh, now, ar_ golng to l~? .,,<??arlly -*>??*?
nol bv larifl m__~ir_?, bul l,y ihe oyei>.ipply.*?*??
wlll ls- cau-.-d ta theae eouatrtes b> *********
wblch thev wlil be tmable to r-es'-i. I nd m 0888Jg;
ramataaeea, lt Is abaotatoUr n_. -nry tor us totake
a ii.w iaetataa. BeaMfla, i>. miposing the duty oi
gS frnn.s on **** uie.it-. ?- are oiilv n.alntalnlng
the exaet proportinn whlch wc ndop'- . ta regurd to
beef m.-ats.' Ua auui'P-fld lha da* -i i" f?^*'"
tha ... .u of live ox.u and that of :?) ran. - on **to*t
be.-r m-i.ts: that is la _.y. between <V_"* __..._
cattle and BBlMd BBBB. an _MB_~BM M tbe rate or
dutv of 300 per cent. ._. ....
Now. as r-gards pork, since vou bev.- v.ted taa
dutv of ? frm.r. n h-ud on live hor_. co** ..uentlV
? rraaes per i<s) kH.igi-jmmes, this being jae Bajraaa
weight adopt.-d ln practi-e. the dnty ol -0 frajMB
w.oi'.d nr,t rrpre..?iit?ii mte of Inc.-n- of ***,***
'J.',.) ts-r cent. In nialntiilnlng tli.it ol :?. > per cent
you ought to B__e the dutv on salted ments at tnt
very leiist _4 francs.
Vou see lhat vou come Mnpul.l.-lv near to fhe fl.it.
of 88 frnnes whieh we ask _0N ta ?pta. . ? ? \'u*
dutv of ?_:. fraacB wouii Bppcsr ta be b Bilatmaai i.-i'?w
whlch lt would ne imprudenl to de. -ed. it ia io?
this that v- tisk too 1. M.t- it. ln ihe llr-t plaee
to giv,. vati-f.i.-tl.m to those of our . ..iu-igu. . wia
simiv our proteetlonlsl rten . and tb-n ta ****l**St
fnd lon, wlul-vr they mav -nv nt-mt It, to tue
l.IU-rats of this A--..-eiiiblv. who bav ? ai i ito ******
t? ehnr.se between BMlntalnlna in- pr Wbltton und t
Just duty whlch w<- BBk _8fl BB BBBBBBB.
AN F.XTKA W MIKIim-K TAX.
(Jentlemen. I am obligid to remaln a few ramutea
still In this trlbnne, ln order to a____BMB your tlme,
for I deslro to ttftf ln advance to a second amend
ment whieh H coming und.-i- d|s,-i--l-in In n little
while. and to make known ;-. vou Ihs aplflMfl *t tho
comniltteo in repnd ta lt
The -lBaUBBl TatBBB nie. Mr. Baportflf, I beg yoa
to remark lhat tl.e ameudment ot wblch you hpcalt
is not nt pr.-senl BfldBff dis.ii?lon.
The Kepoiter-Th.it la true. Mr. Presldent. but I
prefer to ttftf tt rl M _______ lf you wlll allow
me. foi- I w.ii pe_baja prereal lha tMaeBBMaB. Ite
Le Cour and a great bbmj of m- ,.lleag.es have de
tnanded bj waj of au ainendment tbal anaxua
warehotise tax of 10 fiBlic. lie voted _n ****+2*
meata arrlvtog ta Praaeb paeM aai aaaaai from
"^_rxS?_X__toi. to WhO... BttaBttafl this BBBpae
ment wa. brought, cuntliering tbal t was .-.-rtuln y
nut for the mterest uf Ibe vut-il, health to r.-.-.-lv.- .;,
a pieneh port prodarto Mrcad. rojecled. . n-hapa. and
very probaM. after an examlnallon. ln other .?anitnes.
declared i.~elf In Ihe begimUng to be ven **?*>*
favor of vour ncoepUng the aratndnient of Mr. Im ? oui
and bto coltoague.. N?verUio_*B, ll - n-i-lei - tbal
there axBda Mnari? ln o..c tarilt an extm aareBoaaa
x wblch. atfe.tlngall proi-Cto not j^gjai * Ma
tariff, is U.e.efore ..pplleal.le to iho-. of wlil. [. *****
spmklnK, that l- ta a?y, ta --.iteci BMflMa. ihto dutj
U Tha 'commlttee eOBBlieW atoo that. heflMBgr. ia.
snfBclenl this dnty nny bo, as lt provlde* tor tho neces
.Ittofl of the momeot, it would b- bettar to walt for Ua
Benate to take the inltiativc in ratotaj tha M-T. JBa
Mlntoter has doelared to n- bhM ha would not op
1M,Mr. Le CflflB llB8 the Mi-.i-ier BB-MBM I yoa to
n.ako a detlaratlou to t his effect .' -_?_?
The K.-porte. fml-r tl.e-, , Ir,-mn ItoneBB, lB?ieB
to sborten th- debate. in order Ihld UM i ill ttt* **
returii to the Heaato-, aad to orttor thai youi **?*>**?
Impattonca mav m_ bc exnosed lo u u.ird ?-^*w?.
l beg tlm HOBOr-bto Mr. U four to ba BBBd enough
to Boaaioa hl- am ndment. .... ? , ._
Mr. .1. slegi.lecl W. join. Mr. Fellx FBWB and I ln
the um-iicliiie.it of Mr. Pevtial.
The Pi-c-ident-Meaara. BU^tod and . l ?,
win, have petaantod aa amond-ient -ta. UMl tmt
witbdraw it ta aoeept thai .,f Mr. ? ' ; **J*
then the ame.i-lrneitt of Mr. ivvt,.,l that BBJjotal
to put to a vote. after reading Bgnln: -el tt
tha waria: -saiteci pork .......... ham umi .a..m. -??
francs per 100 Mtog-BBUBea li.,.-:t ^Mtrd BM
meats: li-.ms an.l aainaaea, 2; francs r- . i";> "to;
SSninies. nwon, B_oulders. Udes. lutestlnal aarM
and inferior ctits, -Ai) Man p,- 1-11-.--:--......--.
Mr .lules Uevelle (Mlntoter of A-n-iiltiir-v-The
ilovernni.-ni does not nc-pt the amen I 1 it.
Tho lleport-r?The ooflMalttee doei 10 ..- ept 11
c 'The Pi_B_toBt-Tha Oaaan___il snd c< ? ? wjaBlttBB
relect tho ainendment of Mr. !'??_r-J. l l?u **?
vote . . . Here to tho result of the vote onitha
ame'iHlnu-nt of Mr. Peytrnl. Sum!; r ol veteri BBB,
r.-5-ito.iu majortty, _?7; Mr aioptloB. 108; tA***mm*
""fhe fhamber of Deputies ii.,- i?-t .4doi.t,>d llu)
ametMUneat. Ther-, ___-ln~ an emendmenl 01 w.
l... lour. thus c,,n?eiv,-l: "h Mia warehoit*: lux? daltoa
and BBOhei BOlB meau. lo B____ thi 188 kllo
KraM.""7.e four-ln pres.Mic- ?f tl- decMTB._ of
Un Mtal-ter I witbdraw mj Bmendmcnt.
Tho Pie-ld-iit-ihi- BBMiMUneul U w.{****? **
have then only lo VOta on Ura rfnple arttoM oftba
Ull. 1 wiii read tbi- artlrie: 'Sul arttoto.
Bch into \. entrance tarilt of Um ie icrnl cnstoBM tarltT.
establlshed by the law ol Muj ", 1- 1. 1- >'"?'*
chan.ed as follows: ?8olt_l wrk n-.,t. BBfll and
bacm. _.". francs i_i 1(~> kllocraaim -?
Tbto vote wiii be tahen liy open tou.-t. . . .
Hen> _ th- i--t.lt of the vot,-: Wumbrr of roter?. >o-i.
rmulslta majortty, -.vt. For adoptioii, :>.,: agaimt,
ThB fhamber of Deputl.?> Mu Biaptei lha MB as it
eame f.otu the ?___*.
_-4*
C___-__-__I-0 AE ASSIM.ii- UtT.
Ti.e C-flaaa MaBhadlat Ghaiah, .? __H* _ -t.. held
/.pc'cl-l eonaueiuoraticjii servic I v .bnb- . to B-deMata lh..
iirti-'Ui aaaivatflar. Bf th,- Beetoto- leaMval ttom Na nr-t
loratlM Thi* -o-?--.?.- Bad Ra artoln la a _ ?? ? __B->
lU-Cd -t T.-iitli-uv,-. and Twent.v-ii.i-i -?. 111 I8BB. I.
I.U lt w:is mi.v-d M tBBflM ntmtb _. BBd M-ith-tve..
um' la i.si;i Bw ~,_ieiy aaa to_apatBBM aad aaato bmbbj
ta rwcaM-MaittMB-, aaat M Bh_h-a__ TB.-orrtaM
?t ibe .r-.-s.-ni bulldlng wc* BM la l--1- aad lh ehflKfl
,..?,? bm aeaaatod Ba tottowtog irear. TweaB -11 aa*.
t.rs have BBMSBM over MB BbBMb diniii- it* Iii-t mt.
Tli-- BBBBBfl IBBtoliBf B_-BtBg BTBB i.i-"!' d I- l~c K-'V.
ur b. B. Ilaradlto. gaatoi of tiie fsa pfctoa ataaaa Oaapia
tiut'io-.-i fti.ji.li. ui BraaUya. A Hwadfly-athoel a-..i | m 1
?.ti?tf was held at 2:80 p. BB, _l -hlah adtMBBaB wera
BMia bv the ltev. CMrfl WMaht, it.- Her. <'? W. Mfltaai.
ri?. Bav. st. iihcn MetrtH aml BbbwbI ?' _____8BBh. *
Dlatfonn BM-_BB w_* held ii. !_?? ev.nl.i_. at Bfltoh -?hn D
Ma.ibaik i.ii-id-d. ftdBraaaai --?:- BBfll bf H ? ~<_f_B8B
feseefe ******** ?nd Bm Bbt. 9. Maaaa Bartfl.
sue uusg m w nri _".??/?--?
IfBflftoa WtU, the baibe: B_M BB KBtatiaj iHTnooa
?>siiiit.-u mia rabhad M8m ___* _?_?_>. tt Um M Vaa
dun.-st., ui her pock.-uuok, raalatotas 818, ?t aMbaia
a,,d T.utl.-st., vas aitalg.bd ta JeB-tBOB -M-:i;-t i'olioB
COBrt r__a_My t- bbbbbt a eharge rt bifkway i****Y
KlM Baaara wA baa __bm aara pa ato| letetem *****
poib-v Caart Bataiiap -Biibibb, mbtm Wott _*__d Miaa
K..Mta bv the ann aud _iai,b.cl BBB pilhllBlM out c_ her
tutud. U-BBBd ol BBBflMB-BBi M_B 9*m*ta tlir.w her
ari- s arniind th- MShWay__B BBd ?a- d.i-- -?,! I.. I J block
Ut bm Badaaa **.? bm.Bad to toaa_lB| away Btai bar,
?LmUiaUciiraat (____. araa aaa paaatoi huu _bb
th.. mu aad 44?i.:aii striiKglliiit. _->z-4t _*_. hy UM U..-?l
MM ?.s ba h?J BBtatadM m to___ag away B_b MIbb
Bmbi aud after B -tr-.^l-, ll whlch *eU l'-'^ ? ?***
kmue Ma 8M11BM aflM Ma ~ pabtoa bMfliaaiBfla,
Wolf' v.1.0 aaaahfl BMM '.-?. Mh, deatod u.c ch___a Bm -.~a
aa i?t,rpr.-tcr, and was MM BM trial ... dtMMB of bMN
ball. ,_^_
B_X__, r/'.s'j i.o v if u'./wa'.
The ne44-ly tt***f - BBBBBl-BB ,-onnI 1 ?-? U.<- 1, Ita I li?._?
naMialtT h-i- H* ?._ I.flae al ta* n*t -n.iiy __*
?aa-___, Ne Ul w..'? dMh-**.. ?? ?-"- ' ' "'-"l- a,,,i
eraaatoBd bb toBa-Bi Ma Bav. B. b\ Tnjaka, * Ba s'_
e\ma OMatar. Maaaaafll B. B. Bag-o. Saar.Tedt Vah
Chaatoi rtaa-taahBMa; B. i rhiawi. M Ma WBh
mim chapflii ?' ave - '?? : Mr. ~o_t.-ii. of n-.t
naa ***** *******. tha ? BBm _ M ?___? aaM
?ui Bwarat aaf aaaa: naiaato. ? . ' Mvcraltp
'ut tn- titv ?f No-Voik; u i- B " to Cwaall; B. _.
TU.ni- Bibmbbi; w. i.. Pahhaata, Iflfto; B. J. *n._.._.,
Willla-i- and T. B. P_:Beld. trt.-.i.bla. u..d-rgr_du_U-_,
Mr \V___ltr. of KutK-is; Mi. _IBIB8d. ot tirown. a_d
Mr wiiM-i, rt OabaaBia. 'in Brta ?. Ma aaai Mva
tion of MMftfto-flBp aaa baai at Baaaaaaa io. n _>d
is, UMt, ?t colby I'.oM i
8-*
I lialllfffff C-HHfcll AEttAtlKE,
1\e r?s?iL-ir BBBBBBp ".*** * u'' A" ' ?'' '?' ,,f s"l>r>r*
mi--..deau aud Ctortto M Ma K fl.Tarl BaB Maa _. ~*'4
4 .. rliv alt-rn.sKi l:i Ihf Oll-BB ___flU? ii-li <i HM8
1 ft- ntli-st. i'rank J. C*JBB pa U t * Uo- BftBBfl
PiaaMaM thaaiBM Maaatet. Pha b___aa waa a
at-m-td to appont a roainntl-- ol IH- lo .'....? up a WU 10
?t -.-nt to ('_lg^-s te r -c ?? -??> ? - _M f*a ..f t_a
.. d blll la thai Ui. __a_-t nt anptrat**nai**M >?**
riaika >n tir--- BBd Btaeal atoaa MBM M ~ ?- I bbmmBPi
a-. mia-' t.-uiK n-ide ??!' ' ? ? h .e-.-- ? . - - < - ln*
oMBflattlaa *t.i ta BBBaaaaM *' a labaaa m. .-u..g. Ther*
waa mi auttloa _il? ot bu\. ? hur tho ball to be gl.cn by
the ?aao<-lati_i at __io\ I.yveuin o-t January 15. Thlrty.
six box_> rt t_o flfiy-iMi- BBM srtd at ao av_i_a tt
abeut 810 each.