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YouV ou LXII ...N°* 20,460.
Yale's ground stirring tackle.
Washington, Nov. 21.— Relations with Cuba,
the WhllllSll canal and the Pacific cable were
the principal matters discussed at the meeting
of the Cabinet to-day. General satisfaction was
expressed with the oi.tcome of the conference
between the Attorney General and the officials,
of the Commercial Pacific Cable Company, espe
cially as Attorney General Knox was able to re
port that at a brief conference with the cable
people this morning an entirely satisfactory un
derstanding had been reached as to the only
point -'it issue.
Or. the other hand, there were many expres
lloas of dissatisfaction with the condition of the
canal negotiations with Colombia and of the
reciprocity negotiations with Cuba. The feel
ing Ie general among members of the Cabinet
that the Colombian Government Is trying to
fore the United States into paying an exorbi
tant price for concessions which will comply
with the requirements of the legislation enacted
by Congress, and the drift of opinion was that
unless Colombia should speedily authorize her
minister here to sign the pending treaty it
would be well to turn again toward the Nicara
gua route under the provision of the law which
authorizes the President to adopt that route in
the event of his inability to obtain the necessary
concessions from Colombia.
The Cuban Government came In for severe
criticism on account of the attitude which Presi
dent Palrna has been led by European influences
t«» assume toward reciprocity and the Platt
amendment. The members of the Cabinet feel
that Cuba is not only ungrateful to the United
Mote?, but is pursuing a very shortsighted pol
. Icy. and there is no disposition to make any
variation whatever in the instruction which
Brigadier General Bliss carried to Cuba for his
guidance, and that of Minister Squlers in the
negotiation of the proposed treaty. If Cuba will
not accept the generous terms offered, she need
expect no tariff concessions from the United
Etatc-5. The administration will not abandon
a single feature of the Platt amendment; cer
tainly not until after Cuba has entered into a
satisfactory reciprocity treaty. The attitude of
this country will not be changed in any way
even if the Cuban Congress should go so far
as to declare the Platt amendment void, or if
action should be taken to strike it from the
Cuban constitution. In addition to having been
adopted as an appendix to the Cuban constitu
tion, it is ■ law of the United States, and until
it has been repealed by Congress it will be in
sisted upon by the President. The Cubans will
realize the meaning of this if they undertake to
borrow money without the approval of the
United States, in the face of the provision of the
Plan amendment, which gives the United States
practically a veto power on any proposition for
a Cuban loan. The Cubans will be given to
understand that the United States expects the
Platt amendment to be lived up to, and the few
batteries Of American artillery which are still
In Cuba will probably remain there until a satis
' factory settlement is reached.
Although the subject of tariff revision did not
take up much time at the Cabinet meeting.
President Roosevelt is giving much attention
to it before closing up his message to Congress.
He is consulting with the party leaders as to the
recommendations he should make. He heard
conservative advice to-day. Senator Scott, of
West Virginia, advised against anything what
ever being attempted at the coming session.
Senators Lodge and Burrows also advised a
conservative course. The President has been in
favor of the creation of a permanent commis
sion outside of Congress for the consideration of
tariff matters. He finds that some Senators
*nd Representatives 'will favor the creation of
* Congressional commission. He also finds a
difference of opinion as to the best method of
bringing about redprodeal concessions between
the United States and other nations. On one
•iae are the advocates of reciprocity treaties and
•wj the other advocates of maximum and mini
mum schedules, to be put in force by the execu
tive, as the tariff treatment of the United States
by other nations warrants.
Washington. Nov. 21.— Several of the leaders
In both branches of Congress have been invited
by the President to call on him at the executive
ofllce* next Monday. He will discuss with them
<•*• features of his forthcoming message relat
la F to trusts and the tariff. The President hopes,
**one result of his conferences with the Repub
"ean leaders, to facilitate the work of the ap-
Woaehing session of Congress, and pave the way
'or a reconciliation of any differences which
m *y arise between the two houses. Senator
Lodge took luncheon with the President to-day,
»nd they discussed freely some of the Important
features of the President's message.
!l > the next four or five days, as opportunity
mst y offer, the President will put the finishing
torches on his message. It Is understood that
*c message will be sent to Congress on the sec
'm& day of the approaching session. Tuesday.
D«*eniber 2. owing to the fact that deaths of
Members of both houses have occurred in the
why not see NIAGARA FALLS?
,7ou ran do so with no extra expense if you travel
°* ">* New York Central lines.— Advt.
Th« freshman fullback. Who has proved himself a brilliant end
(Photograph by Paeh Bros.)
recess, which will cause an adjournment on
Monday. The message is almost completed, but
some points of it are yet to be written finally,
and the whole is to be revised.
President Roosevelt arrived here at 8 o'clock
this morning: over the Southern Railroad. A
small crowd was at the station to welcome him.
As he left the train he shook hands with. the
engineer and fireman, and thanked them for the
safe run they had made. The President and
Secretary Cortelyon were driven direct to the
White House. Before 10 o'clock the President
reached his office in the Executive Building, and
began at once to dispose of a mass of business
which had accumulated in his absence. Prior
to the meeting of the Cabinet, which had been
called for 11 o'clock, the President found time
to hold brief interviews with Senators Burrows,
Scott and Lodge.
Every member of the Cabinet was present at
to-day's meeting. It was comparatively brief,
lasting only about an hour. At its conclusion
it was said that no business of serious conse
quence was transacted, although some subjects
of Importance were considered briefly. Secre
tary Hay brought with him some document* re
lating to the Panama Canal treaty. He reported
the status of the negotiations, and it is saM
that the President will not be ahl<> to tell Con
gress in his message that he is ready to submit
a treaty with Colombia In accord nee with the
Bpooner act. Some portions of the President's
message were considered, but as the features
concerning which a division of opinion might
arlFe have not been prepared definitely, and
will not be until the President has had time to
discuss them further with the leaders in both
branches of Congress, little respecting the mes
sage was accomplished.
Secretary Root remained with the President
for a time after the other members of the Cabi
net departed. It is understood that they dia-
CUSsed matters relating to the War Department.
Press of work in connection with his annual
report, which Is neartng completion, has com
pelled Secretary Moody to abandon his trip to
Philadelphia with the President to-morrow. The
Secretary was to have spoken before the Union
Le gue on Saturday night on "The Influence of
the American Navy on Foreign Navies."
As the result, it is alleged, of a drug . lerk's
mistake. Mrs. Vincenzo Orlanda, sixty years
old. of No. 408 West Sixteenth-st.. Is dead in
h<>r home, and her grandson, Joseph Caputa,
seven months old, is dead in the New-York
Hospital* from drinking what they supposed
was a mixture of castor and almond Oil, but
which Is said to have contained cyanide of
William J. Rogers, eighteen years old. of No.
382 West Nineti enth-st., who is employed In the
drug store of Theodore Rennenberg, at No. 500
Ninth-aye., is under arrest, having been identi
fied by two of th'- dead woman'? grandchildren
; ,s having sold to them the mixture which caused
th* fatalities. Rogers, the police say. Is not a
1 drug. clerk, but Is employed to help
around the store He denies selling the mixt
ure to the children, and says he does not re
member ever seeing them.
Mrs. Orlanda lived with her husband, her
married daughter and the latter.* husband,
Luigi Caputa, and their three children.
On Thursday night, Mrs. Caputa told the po
lice. one of the children, Jennie, was sent to
Re nnenberg's drug store to buy some castor and
almond oil mixed, to be taken internally. She
bad a small glass in which to bring bock the
medicine. When she returned Mrs Caputa says
she noticed a peculiar odor to th* bottle's con
tents. She then sent Jennie and her sister Mary,
she declares, back to the .store tr, tell the man
who had sold the medicine that there was some
thing wrong with it. The children soon re
turned, she says, saying that the clerk in the
stcre told them it was all right.
About 7 a. m. yesterday Mrs. Orlanda poured
some of the mixture into a teaspoon and gave, it
to Joseph. Then, from a larger spoon. she took
some of it. In ess than five minutes both were
writhing In convulsions.
Dr. James Shea, of No. 333 West Fourteenth
st . was called, but when he arrived the woman
was dead. He immediately called an ambu
lance from the New-York Hospital, and the
child was taken there, but in spite of the ef
forts of the hospital surgeons the child expired
ln D a r. fe Shea O eTa P m.ned the glass and Its contents
and said he thought the mixture had contained
woman. Antonio, who
m nearly ninety years old and blind, does not
and railing on his wife to speak to him.
Havana Nov. 21. -President Palma Issued an
official order to-day appointing S-wiary of
State Zaldo and Secretary of Finance Monies
L, a commission to meet General Hi* X is
understood that General Bliss, through Minister
Squters. yesterday intimated to the Cuban Gov
ernment that the United States expected him to
treat with the officials of the government direct,
and that he could not meet a commission com
posed of representatives of economic societies
which had been formed for that purpose.
It is expected that the first meeting between
Oeneral Bliss an.l Seftors Zaido and Montes will
?e held to morrow, and it is thought that the
anointment of the new commission will ex
pedite ma t"ers. There is a hope that the meet
ings oMhe conference will be brought to a con
clusion before December 1.
Ifost reliable. Expert care from production to de
CURB by oriental METHODS.
The steps taken yesterday by Dr. Chang, of Nos.
21 and 22 Mott-st.. for obtaining from the State
Board of Health a permit to practise medicine
were the first ones toward carrying ' into effect
a desire among the Chinese of this city to have In
Chinatown a hospital for Chinese, conducted by
Chinese doctors on the Oriental plan. This hospi
tal, if it Is established, will he a distinct oddity in
this country, as there has never been any like
It in this city. nor, as far as can he learned. In
San Francisco, the other centre of Chines* popula
tion in the United States.
There are at present in Chinatown three or four
practising physicians, but as they have no official
connection with the Board of Health, and as their
instructions sometimes conflict with those of that
body, they' have not thought it wise to advertise,
nnd have been content with a quiet practice. But
there has been growing among the merchants of
Chinatown a desire for a regular hospital, prop
erly incorporated, and it is in pursuance of this
end that Dr. Chans has made his application. If he
succeeds In passing the examinations it is expected
that he will be the first head of the new Institu
tion, which they desire to locate in Park-st.. near
Dr. Bon Chang, who has spent some years in this
country. Is well educated in the Chinese science
of healing. He received a common education at
the College of Hut 80, In Canton, and was gradu
ated from the mechanical school at Hot Yok Tons,
after which ha served in the hospitals of Dln*-
Shong nnd Bhalkow. lie ha* liar! a Wide prac
tice, and considers himself thoroughly proficient
in the science of healing. The hospital would be
run by him In 8 fashion as thoroughly Chinese as
possible under the circumstances.
Healing, among the Chinese, la ■'.• '■■••'■■ honveo
pathic. No heroic remedies are used, m«d!ctna«
being largely decoctions of, herbs and Ta?\s, arid
the knife. la used only in cn.t-» of noeVssary ampu
tations or Hlrnllar troubles. Large doses of reli
gious consolation are also administered, some
what after the manner of the Christian Scientists,
and ther« Is much burning of Joss mid driving
away of devils with tom-toms and cymbal*
The Oriental spirit would be shown, too, in the
administration of the business affairs of th« in
stitution. Instead of charging the pick for treat
ment, it would have a large number of "sub
scribers," who would pay a certain amount week
ly, said payment to be suspended when they be
came sick. it would then be to the interest „ iiie
hospital authorities to cure them as rapidly an
possible. There are many however. among the
liberal merchants of the city, headed by Choi Su
Kan. the organizer of th* New-York branch of
the Chinese Reform Club, and composed chiefly of
members of that body, who d<-.slre a different
kind of hospital They have lost faith hi the
Joss sticks and root teas of the mandarins, anil
desire that the place be run by Chines*. but by
Chinese who are graduates of American medi
cal schools and capable of operating on American
lines. 'Dies.- men mention Dr. Thorns as the best
head for the new hospital.
Hundreds <jf persons saw fire last evening in
Fifth-aye, between Nineteenth and Twentieth Ms.,
when a six-Inch r;is main that had been broken by
the fall of a) temporary bridge Ignited and sent
a sheet of tla^-i. twenty feet In the air. Two hours
and-n>>ialf afterward employes of the Consolidated
Gas C«>h|tyniy phut off the gas. The Fire Depart
ment waHTSiaJled, but could do no more than play
water on I thoysphalted pavement and prevent It
from melting. I
The flre Vis the result of the falling of a tem
porary sidewalk, a wooden bridge, over an exca
vation at No* 129 and 131 Flfth-ave., where a nlne-
Btory annex to the store of Lord & Taylor Is being
constructed. Part of the sidewalk In front of No.
127 Flfth-ave. had to be braced on account of the
excavation, and the stoop of the building at that
number had to be shored up. At the southern
end of the bridge stood a tool shanty, used by
the night watchman. S. XV. Seeley, of No. 221 East
About f.:3" p m. Beeley had just left the shanty,
when he heard a creaking sound, and (> It the
bridge Rive alowly. Th. re were thn ther mci
the bridge at the time, and, shouting t.> them to
run. he Jumped to the street. The others reached
the sidewalk at the furthest end of the bridge |USt
as it fell with a crash
The supports under the sidewalk of No 127 Kirth
ave. gave way. and the stoop sagged about
six feet. When the bridge crasher) jn the
tool shanty in which Seeley had been resting only
a few minutes before, toppled to the bottom oi the
excavation, twentj Hve feel below One of the
. ivj beams supporting the bridge, in falling,
:-truck a six-inch gas mam directly under the bM<
walk line, breaking 1 a piece oul of the top about
three incttes wide
Seele* ran t.. Wallace's Hotel, at No. 121 Ftfth
ave.. and the proprietor, W H Dunn, went hack
to th>- excavation with hint The odoi of escaping
uas ther- was almost sickening. Mr Dunn in-
Formed the Consolidated Gas Companj of the ac
cident, and th'- Buikfings Department of tbi lag
ging Stoop.
Th: pas company sent .» repairer, John Mc-
Carthy, to look after the leak, and in the mean
time about a hundred people- had gathered In the
street. Gas and electric lamps in the neighbor
hood had been extinguished, and the liphts in the
buildinKS were burning low.
A policeman discovered that an electric light
pole had Riven away with the bridge, and the wires
had he- n broken. He warned everybody away from
the excavation, fcr the wires were spitting sparks,
making: a miniature pyrotechnic display. When
McCarthy arrived he would not permit the re
pairer to climb down to where the gas was leak-
Ing, for fear of the electric wires. McCarthy then
telephoned his company to send the street gang
to open up the roadway.
McCarthy had scarcely left the telephone when,
with a tremendous roar, the broken gas main
caught flre. and shot a flame twenty feet high in
the air The flame, small at the break, spread out
like a balloon as It rose In the air, being six feet
wide near the top.
Three causes were given for the Igniting of the
main One was the la: pof .* passing automo-
Croup, that swift-working:, alarming enemy of
children, can nearly always be vanquished with
I)r. D. Jayne-'s Expectorant.— Advt-
Talk's centre and left taalfba*>
bile, another a match and the third and most prob
able, sparks from the broken wire*
When the flame Illuminated the sky crowds began
to carrier from a!) points, and th« reserves from
the Tenderloin station were called to form lines.
About ten or fifteen minutes after the blaze
started, every light in Wallace's Hotel went out,
anti .Mr. Dunn was obliged to send for candles.
Other buildings in the neighborhood were incon
venienced in a similar way
Washington, Nov. 21.— The State Department
has been informed that Godfrey Hunter, jr.. son
of the United States Minister at Guatemala City,
shot and killed William Fitzgerald, of Grand
Rapids, Mich., to-day. Hunter has taken refuge
in the legation, and an Interesting question has
arisen as to his exemption from arrest.-
Important details are lacking in the report of
the affair which has come to the State Depart
ment, and the officials are in doubt as to what
should be done. They have no notion of sur
rendering an American citizen without protest
to the local courts of Guatemala unless satis
fied that the man Is a proper subject for pun
ishment. Even then It Is not at all certain that
the department itself has the right to waive any
legal exemption the man might have. Inter
national law lays down the precept that an am
bassador or minister may not of his own accord
surrender any such exemption In his own case.
Fitzgerald Was shot four time::. Another im
portant fact developed was "that young Hunter
wan accompanied at the"^!rne of shooting by
the secretary of the legation. This official is set
down in the register as James G. Bailey, of Ken
tucky, who went to his post in June, 1901. The
• able dispatch also, rather by suggestion than
by direct statement, gave ground for an Infer
ence that the killing was provoked
Not much is known of the personality of God
frey Hunter, jr.. and it Is Impossible to learn
definitely whether or not he was actually con
nected officially with the United States Legation
at Guatemala City at the time of the killing.
That he had been a clerk or typewriter in the
legation is established, but in some quarters it
is said that this connection Mad been terminated
for some time. This may '>c an Important point
in settling the question of the exemption of
young Hunter from arrest, for a legation at
tache or employe enjoys a large part of the ex
emptions conferred by international law on an
ambassador or minister.
Another point which may operate in Hunter's
favor is his kinship to the minister. He was
certainly a member of the minister's family,
and that fact might be regarded as sufficient
to base a claim of exemption. However, as al
ready indicated, the State Department is mov
ing with caution in the matter, preferring to
develop all the facts before establishing an im
portant precedent. The excitement in the neigh
borhood of the legation In Guatemala City has
made it difficult for the State Department to
obtain information from any unbiassed person
connected with the legation and not Involved
in the affray. Therefore it is probable that it
will await sum- application from the Guate
malan authorities for the surrender of young
Hunter and decide his claim to exemption from
arrest on the basis of all facts presented.
It Is suggested here that the shooting affray
may have been the result of the recent relief
of Di Hunter from his post as minister He
has been embroiled with members of the Amer
ican colony mi si of the time since he assumed
office in 1807, arid lately, owing to his connec
tion with a government railroad and other mat
ters not supposed to be proper for a minister
to meddle with, the pressure became co acute
that the department was obliged to relieve him
from office, it may be that Fitzgerald was con
nected in some way with the charges against
the minister.
<;rand Rapids, Mich . Nov. Jl William Kn -.
was born here, and was iiiiMiit twenty-seven years
old. Seven Mr eicht ■. . drifted to < ;n.i».-
mala, where he held several government places. He
la said h\ his relatives here to have been private
secretary of the President of Guatemala for some
time. The last time lie iv.is In Grand Rapids was
two years ago. At on< >mi" Fitzgerald was .. parlor
c»r conductor on th. Grand Rapids and Indiana
\OT VAKIXr. I /»/.)/ 11777/ iDDICKS
[nr TIM Ki.lt.Wll TO Tic: TRIIX.SE.]
Dover. Del.. Nov. 21.— The statements purporting
to emanate from Dover to the effect that ex-Sena
tor R. R. Kenney (Democrat) was 'dealing with
Edward Addicks on a Senatorial question, were
emphatically denied here to-niuht by Mr. Kenney.
He hi:- been out ol town for several days, but on
his return to-day, when apprised of the rumors,
said that such a thing was absurd and nonsensical.
He added:
"If 1 had such a desire, it would be impossible
for me to make a deal, because I could not per
suade nor would I dare make such '•'. proposition to
any one of the Democratic members of the next
legislature. They are men above reproach, and
cannot and will not allow themselves to be ap
proached by me or any one else on such a subject."
Victoria. B. (".. Nov. Premier James Dunsmuir
has resigned, and Cole G. Prior. Minister of Mines,
has been called upon to form a Ministry. The com
position of the Cabinet will remain practically un
changed, the vacant portfolio of Minister of Mines
being expected to be filled within a few days.
via the Pennsylvania Special. Official Stenograph
ers, Ladies' Maids and Stock Reports are special
New-York will celebrat* in this city the centen
nial of the founding of the State of Ohio. Many
prominent natives of Ohio will be present. An ac
count of the centennial ceremonies here and else
where, with photos of prominent Ohio men. In to
morrow's Trtbrne.— CAdvt.
1 For™. 2A. Marshall. 3 Bowflitch. 4C. Marshall. 6 Whltwell. « McMaster a (trainer). 7 She*. • Captain Kernan. • MtDs
1 0 Putnam 11 Graydon. 12 Knowlton.
iPhotOKrapn T>y Pads.) .
Scranton. Perm. Nw '21. -Plans for a settle
ment of the questions at tesue between the an
thracite operators and the mine workers are
afoot The strike commission will aid in brlng
irg about a termination of the dispute, and if
the negotiations are successful the commission
will not be required to pass on the questions
now before it.
The operators have not formally presented an
offer, but they are expected to after a discussion
between the attorneys for each side which will
probably take place to-morrow. The offer will
Include a I<> per cent increase in wages, a nine
hour workday and yearly contracts by each
company with Its own employes. The question
of payment by weight is to be left open. The
union Is not to be recognized, while non-union
men are to retain their present places and be
free from molestation.
' The mine workers. It is understood, will hold
out for a 19 per cent increase In wages, and an
tight hour day. but they will agree to the other
There will be a full week In which to consider
plans for a settlement, and the commission will
be asked to adjourn to-morrow morning until
Wednesday. December 3. This will be for the
stated object Of allowing the mine workers to
examine the wage tables of the operators, and
to allow time to finish the tables, so that if the
negotiations fait through the submission of tes
timony can continue. But the temper of each
side is such that an adjustment of the difficulties
Is expected.
Attorneys for each side admit that efforts to
reach a settlement are being made. Some are
hopeful of success, while others think that it
would be better to follow the present proceed
ings to an end. The members of the commis
sion highly approve of the present negotiations.
This was shown by Judge Gray to-day when he
appealed to the two parties to meet in a friendly
spirit and settle the disputed point*, it was
While an adjournment was being discussed that
he said:
"Having acceded to the suggestion made by
you that this me be taken In the preparation
of the documentary evidence and for a possible
agreement as t,> facts and figures which would
forward the work of the commission, the com
mission desires to express the hope that an ef
fort will be made by the parties to come to an
agreement upon nearly all. if not all. the mat
ters now in controversy, as well as upon these
documentary facts and figures, and that they
will adopt the suggestion heretofore made by
the commission to counsel on both sides that
we would aid them in sock effort by our con
ciliatory offices.
■It seems to us thai many of the conditions
complained of and which have been the subject
of our careful study and examination might be
better remedied by the parties to the contro
•. ■ i; v approaching the subject In a proper spirit
and with the purpose of fairly adjusting them.
We hope, therefore, gentlemen, that the Interval
of time that is now proposed may be availed of
with this end In view. Of course. in the in- in
time we shall proceed with the work before us
as we have begun it."
Mr. Dorrow replied promptly: 'I would like
to say for myself, frankly, that that matter
has been running in my mind for the last few
days. It is a very serious undertaking for this
commission to ascertain the exact wages paid
10 each miner operating throughout this region,
and as we met here day after day and got bet
ter acquainted, and with a fair feeling toward
each other, it seemed to me there ought to be
hope Of our reaching a settlement with the aid
of this commission.
"I do not suppose it would be very wise to do
It Without It! aid. It is certainly very much
better for everybody Interested and the country
in general, and so far as we are concerned we
will do everything we an between now and
the next session."
"I will only say now that the commission will
be very glad to aid in obtaining such a result."
said Judge Gray.
Where the plan for a settlement started, those
who know are not at liberty to tell at present.
But it was conceived and is being executed by
people of much influence, who have attended
the sessions of the commission and know the
details of the cases of each side. The ground
was taken that it would be months before the
evidence could all be presented and the wit
nesses cross-examined; that it entailed an im
mense amount of work at a large cost, and
that there was little ho.>e of the commission
reaching a decision under four or five months.
The mine workers have given the best part of
• v.^; »• .-.a a a It u'aiil/1 Via ImnAGcihla fsw* * s%a.»* •«.
The two college squads in IS-page Pictorial R«
vtrw, with full analysis of both team.- by Morris
I'pham Kly. Tata •i»arterba'~k of '9.5, m to-day'a
Commercial Advertiser; 5 cents at all news-stands
40 pagsa in all— Advt.
Seme interesting pictures of the turkey in th<»
various stages of hi» progress to the ThanksKlvins:
dinner table in to-morrow's Tribune — <Advt.
present without the aid of the companies th«
tables of wages, and there are so many condi
tions peculiar to each mine that it would ba
virtually Impossible for the commission to pass
on each satisfactorily.
In view of these circumstances it was de«
elded that It would be the most businesslike,
plan to arrange for a. discussion of the condi
tions between representatives of each side. and.
as recognition of the union Is not involved. to
come to terms on the other question. When the
plan was suggested to the mine workers there
was an immediate Interest, and they were not
long in agreeing that it was an excellent one.
They desired to know what terms the operators
would offer, and those quoted were proposed.
They are not final, however; they were merely
suggested to see how well they covered the
ground. The mine workers will argue for 15
per cent Instead of 10. and an eight hour day In
stead of a nine hour day. It Is proposed to have
first a discussion between the attorneys for each;
side, and then. if there are questions which are
still in dispute, to have a conference with the
members of the Strike Commission. It Is under
stood that now In New-York a conference la
b.jni? arranged. Attorneys for the mine work
ers may be asked to go there to discuss with the
operators the term* of . settlement- - At present
each side in this city Is awaiting news from.
There is some criticism of the plan among
those who have followed the strike and Its de-»
velopments. They believe that it would be bet
ter to allow the commission to settle the ques
tions finally, because the settlement would serve
as a working basis in future labor disputes.
Wayne MacVeagh is one si those concerned in
the settlement. He went to New-York on Tues
day night and returned yesterday. Last mid
night he. President Thomas of the Erie and sev
eral of the operators* attorneys were In confer
ence in the Hotel Jermyn. in this city. Some
what earlier President Mitchell was sent for by
the Strike Commissioners and was in conference
with then It is believed that President
Mitchell then understood what was afoot. He
will not speak about it. Mr. MacVeagh and
President Thomas left here last night for New-
York. Mr. MacVeagh is expected back here to-*
morrow with news of the developments.
iRT .RATH TO TH» T»n»r-«fT 1
SjL'ranton. Perm.. Nov. 21.— The strike cotnnis-.
sion this morning heard the evidence of r>r».
R. H. Gibbons and K. J. Butler on th* general
health of the miners, the diseases to which they
are subjected, and the conditions at the mines
for the care of the injured. They went into the
questions in more detail than did the physicians
heard yesterday. Dr. Gibbons condemned the
ambulances used by the coal companies. "They
are little better than covered lumber wagons.**
he said. "They do not contain sterilized blank
ets, and are not themselves sterilized. They
are kept in stables with animals, and are thus
likely to become Infected. They are bunches of
infection. Every ambulance carries death and
disease to every miner placed in it "
He described the injuries from which mine)
workers suffer. The fractures, he said, were)
recognized as being of the worst kind. The
burns were very severe and usually fatal. There
were numerous < asses of fractured skulls and
broken backs.
Dr. Butler said that the lungs of some miners
were so tilled with particles of coal dust that
they would not float, as would the lungs of
other men when taken from the body at post
mortem examinations, but sink. He said that
a man who worked in the mines for a few years
was not good for anything else, that his lungs
■ue r ,^ so affected that he had no staying power.
As an Instance of this, he told of getting work
on a farm for four able bodied miners, but they
were discharged by the farmer. who said: "They
ha\e- no wind; they have to stop work every
once in a while to get breath."
Fifty-five years, he said, was an exceptional
age for a man to reach in the mines, and after
he had worked to th.it age he looked as» though
he were seventy years old.
Bishop Spaldlng asked if the old miners who
got work in the breakers lasted long.
"A very short time," replied Dr. Butler. 'They
have not much vitality. The miners as a class
are weak and enervated because their fathers
and grandfathers have worked in the mines be
fore them and been affected by the conditions.
I want, however, to except the foreigners. They
came here from farm and forest in Southwestern
Europe, and were strong and hardy, with good
lungs. They are just beginning to be affected
by asthma and kindred troubles. They are able
to remain in the mine* longer."
Mr. Harrow, attorney for the mine workers
is the Pennsylvania Special Twenty hours en
route. Every comfort of home, club and office —
This queer society las It* headquarters In a hog*
temple at Durham. Me. Some of its strange beliefs
and description of the recent death of a farmer
near Ithaca. N. V.. whom the members of this sect
rowV^ibune.^Adv^' *" ccremonl "- * to - mor -

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