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/ V l.\\II....N? 23,897. SS??-tXS?iP? NEW-YORK. SATURDAY, APRIL 20, 1912.-SIXTEEN PAGES r? T? T_nT_*? /"VX'l? Pl.'VT ?* ?"?'.*? of New York, -terse? ?? PRICL ()>?_ V !_._> I KI.SKWIIKHK m'oiMTH th aad Hobokea. TIT?NIC'S SPEED 21 TO 23 KNOTS, EVIDENCE SHOWS: STORIES OF HEROISM ISMAY QUESTIONED ET SENATE^COMMITTE Declares He Left Titanic on Last Boat ai No Women Were in Sight When He Went Over Side. IS A SUPERCILIOUS OBSERVE Unwarranted Belief That Ship Was Unsinkable, Reck!? Navigation and Wonderful Calm After Impact Brought Out at Hearing. The remarkable and unwarranted faith of Captain E. J. Smith a his junior officers in the unsinkable character of the Titanic, the reckle ness of navigating the Titanic at full speed in view of the advices tl there were icebergs in the vicinity and the wonderful calm which p vailed among passengers and officers after the collision?these were t salient facts brought out in yesterday's session of the Senatorial inves gation of the Titanic disaster. Captain Smith of the Titanic obviously had far too great faith the stanchness of his ship, which was shown by his failure to sound alarm immediately after the impact with the iceberg. And it w brought out in the testimony of the second officer that not only did return to his cabin after the impact, under the assumption that no serio damage had been done, but that it remained for him to suggest to i captain the advisability of putting the women and children in the boa which suggestion Captain Smith approved with the words, "Yes, ai lower away." Even then the second officer, Charles W. Lighttoller, failed to a prec?ate the danger and loaded the first boats with extreme cautio putting, according to his testimony, only twenty-five persons into tl first boat, and gradually increasing the number until the last he se: down contained possibly forty-five. Thus far the investigation has failed utterly to clear up the my terious absence from the boat deck of the approximately fifteen hundn passengers and others who were lost. According to J. Bruce Isma president of the International Mercantile Marine Company, there we no women in sight when the last boat but one went over the side, im which he stepped, and this is partly confirmed by the second office who testified that he loaded at least seven boats, and that toward tl last he ordered some men into the boats because he saw no women i sight. He was, however, in charge of the boats on the port side, whi Mr. Ismay was on the stafboard side. Of the survivors of the Titanic, 495 were passengers and 210 wei officers or members of the crew. According to the testimony thus f_ taken, the members of the crew asigned to the eighteen lifeboats whic were launched successfully could not have exceeded two each, a tot< of thirty-six. There is only one explanation. All passengers and ere. wore life belts, but obviously the members of the crew were more cap? ble of battling with the icy waters, and not only succeeded in remainin afloat, but in making their way to the lifeboats and were picked up. Twenty-eight appear to have scrambled on the one lifeboat whic went down with the steamer and reappeared bottom side up. Deduct ing these and those originally assigned to the boats from the 210, i appears that 146 were picked up by the lifeboats, as were, eventually those clinging to the bottom of the capsized collapsible. ISMAY UNFORTUNATE IN IMPRESSION HE MAKES. J. Bruce Ismay was the first witness called, and was not fortunat in the impression he made on the committee and others present. Tha Mr. Ismay had been concerned chiefly with his own safety seemed to be generally suspected, although it is only fair to him to say tha nothing of this kind appeared in his testimony or that of other witnesse thus far heard. It is, too, probable that he suffers somewhat from ai unfortunate mannerism, a somewhat supercilious expression and rathe too much evidence of amusement at the "landlubberly" errors of th? committee, considering the gravity of the catastrophe for which hi company must be held in some measure responsible. In striking contrast was the testimony of Arthur Henry Rostron captain of the Carpathia, who made a most favorable impression on hii hearers, receiving the reiterated commendation of the committee. Hi gave every evidence of being modest, courageous and alert, thoughtfu to the last detail of the safety and comfort of both the survivors of th< Titanic and his own crew, no detail having escaped him in the prepara tion he made for the rescue, and his thoughtfulness rulminating in th< religious service of thanksgiving which he asked an Episcopal clergy man to conduct immediately after the rescue, obviously as much be ?"ause of a realization of the sedative and comforting effect it woulc have on the nerves of the sufferers as because of his religious con victions. The third witness was William O. Marconi, who denied that there bad b-en any effort on the part of his company to suppress the news ?nd repudiated the idea that there had been the slightest purpose ol showing disrespect to the President of the United States. Incidentally he testified that the pay of wireless operators on British ships ranged ?rom $7 50 to $10 a week, with board and lodging, and he said he be? lieved all ships should carry two operators, this being brought out by the fact that it was through the merest accident that the Carpathia, with only one operator, heard the distress signal of the Titanic. SECOND OFFICER TELLS OF LOADING LIFEBOATS. The fourth witness of the day was Charles W. Lighttoller, second officer of the Titanic, who went down with the ship, but later succeeded in climbing on an overturned lifeboat and was subsequently rescued by another lifeboat. He was on the stand the greater part of the afternoon and made a most favorable impression as a careful, conservative and truthful witness, as well as a brave though possibly overcautious officer. According to his testimony, it was not safe to load the lifeboats anywhere near their capacity as long as they were suspended from the davits. He did not regard their capacity in that position as greater than twenty-five or twenty-six adults, although he purposed to have them filled up from the lower decks after they were afloat?a plan which does not appear to have been well carried out. He planned to Place only two seamen in each boat, but, running short of seamen, he Placed some men passengers in some of the boats, among them Major Peuchen, of Toronto. His testimony also indicated that the collapsible part-canvas life. ? Casatinitod en fourth veo*, trat mioma, . CAP?. SMITH DIED I LIKE TRUE SAILOR I ?Man with Him on Bridge of the Titanic When She Sunk Says He Ordered Work of Rescue to Last. TRIED TO SAVE A CHILD Just as Giant Ship Went Down He Seized Little One and Leaped Into Sea?Water Knee Deep Before He Jumped. Ail the survivors of the Titanic'! crew assert with emphasis lhat Captain Smith ?il-i not commit suicide, bul died a pallor's death. One 0f .y]*, firemen ?who was on tlie bridge with him when th?? ship went down .??aid that Captain Smith Jumped into th?- water whan Um bridge was awash, ami. so far us is known, no one ?aw him after that. "I was ?m the bridge deck," said the flreniHii, whose name is James IfcGann, of Liverpool. "I was helping to get off a collapsible boat The last one was launched when the water began to break over the bridge on which Captain Smith Htood. We were not able to launch it properly, so that It was overturned and was used at? ? ruft, some thirty or so of us, mostly firemen, clinging t?> It. "When the water reache?! Captain Smith's knees and the last boat was M least twenty feet from the ship 1 wa standing beside him. i "He gave one look all around Uli face was firm and his lip? h;?r?l set. He looked as If be might be trying to keep bark the tears as he thought of the doomed ship. "Suddenly he shouted Well, hoys. It's every man for himself now.' Then he took <>ne of two little Children who were on the bridge beside him Thev were both crying. He held the child. I think it was a little girl, nadar his right arm and he jumped Into the sea. "All of us Jumped. I lumped righi after the captain, but ?grabbed th?' r> malning child before I did S'>. When I Htruck th? water the ?old was so great that I had to let go my hold on th.? kiddie. The next thing I knew I was swept toward the last collapetble boat which had been launched the over? turned one. I clambered aboard. "It was the Intention of C?ptala Smith to put the two little ones on the boat, but when it overturned it was swept away, and many ,,t those who jumped as the ship went down, as I did, were saved by It. There were about thirty of us ('llnging to it all niftht, until the Car? pathia picked us up All our legs were frsotbltten and ?re were all In the hos? pital for a day at least "I looked around for Captain Smith after I got on the overturne?! boat, but he was nowhere in sight. "How did he act on the bridge while I was there? Always directing the low erlng Of the boats himself, and lie WOM always shouting: 'Women and children first.' 1 think that when he struck tho water the cold ma?le him let go his hold on the chilil. end he must hav.? bean swept away from the boats. Anyway, 1 don't think he wanted to live after see lng how things went. There were dead bodies all around floating in the water when he Jumped, and I think it brok?? his heart." WOULD HAVE MEN GO FIRST Suffragette Says Women on Ti? tanic Should Have Held Back. |Bv Telegraph to The Tribune ] Philadelphia, April li>. Miss I.ida Stokes Adams, a prominent suffragette, to-day declared that the women pas? sengers of the Titanic lost one of the greatest chances ever presented in (he ?ause of suffrage, that they did not as s.ert themseUcs and prove that they are OB the same plane with many n.??n from th?- point of view ?if personal ?'ourage. '?of course, It is hard to answer Whether the women and children should have had preference In such a disaster, but 1 don't think they should have had. 1 think the women should have Instated that the boats he tilled with an equal number of men and women, or that even the men should have had an equal chance of saving thesuelvea, even though in brat, strength the?, are stronger. H would have b??cn a wonder? ful thing for the suffrage cause if ihn had been done. "Years from now there will be similar accidents, und I venture to say that the men and women will share the ?lisustrr alike. The women will not be content to be taken care of. They will endeavor t?> save the men." After making this prediction Miss Adams praised the men of the Titanic for their heroic conduct. HEARS OF PARENTS' DEATH Jesse Isidor Straus May Sail on La France To-day. Cherbourg, April 19.?The steamship Amerika arrived here to-day from New York. Among the passengers were Mr. and Mrs. Jesse Isidor Straus, the son and daughter-in-law ot Mr. and Mrs. Isidor Straus, who lost their lives In the ?inking of the Titanic. News of the disaster was received by wireless, but only on landing was It learned by Mr. Straus that his parents were not among the saved. He Immedi atelv secured an automobile and left tor Havre to secure passage. If possible, on the new M.amer la% France, which salts to-morrow for New York Anooatur? Bitters originated 1824, an old fticad. aa c-f-.tive Spring i__u_.-a_y_. AT HIS PLACE ON THE BRIDGE While the Head of the Line Leaves. MASTERS NOT FORCED TO MAKE SPEED, THEY SA Owners Declare They Are Fre to Decide for Best Interests of the Safety of All. ?"CAN'T BE LATE ALWAYS Ships Are Expected to Mak Runs Ordinarily in Allotted Time. One Master Says, Dis? cussing Speed Question. Prom dlacuMtone reeterdaj erltl eteamshlp >ownera and the muten o reeeeli relative t?. the supremacy ?> command al am and ih" io>called un written underatandlm "to make time, it is ???i ?us thai the average iteamehii captain doei no( eulfer brcauee he Ii careful. The owners de lare thai their raptalni nre absolutely free t?i d?> what tln-y chooee with lhe?Jr ship?- to 'mig as thr management is f??r the heel IntereaU <?f th?' passengers ?>n board and for ill" safety of the ship ami h? r cargo. No captain will denv this. lie will even g?> so far ax to sin that the steam? ship r?mpanle* are ratremely liberal In th?ir dealings Kflth masters ho far as In dependeaee ??f ? ommand Ii ponceraed, luit with it all, some of them say. there Is a feeling on Ihe part of every master that s?imehow or other he has got to "make time." Tii? master of ?i reaeel now lying al ?? Pier in the North Hiver ?aid yesterday he had no doubt whatever but that Cap tain Smith of the Titan!? was making something close to top speed when ho hit the iceberg. Speed on Approaching Ice. 'Is it reasonable to run at such speed when approaching leaf h<? was asked. "That depends on circumstances," he replied. "If there is no ice In the im? mediate vicinity I see no reason for slowing down. \Virel??ss warnings are Invaluable, but on a i le.ir night one may depend largely on the eyeg." "Does this apply when fog prevails with the Ice?" 'Ah, that Is entirely different Stop dead for fog and feel your way under the lowest steerageway. That was done by all the men who came through th<* same ice zone where the Titanic 'went down, often ships < ut down to half speed, but that is only relative. Half t-atiuucd ?a ?e..at__ page, tec and -??'ii'-iri [NO PREFERENCE AMONG MEN Some Millionaires Drowned md Some Steerage Men Saved. London. April _. ..-"The Times" in an ? ??llt.erlal pays a warm tribute to the be? havior i?f the millionaires on the Titanic It says: 'After the woo'en it waa clearly a matter of pure chance which men ?.?.??re saved Moot of the mttllonalres were drowned, while many third ?lass pea sctiKe.f.; pf?jre eaved. Indeed, it is estab? lished ?beyond doubt that the millionaires wer?? treated exactly like any one else, and that th.\ nave an exhibition of courage, lelf-restralnl ?*nd obedience to orderi tecood to none" CROSSED TITANIC'S GRAVE Bergs Still Near, but Sailors Saw No Wreckage. Boston, April 1!?.-(Mil.'ers ..f the Brit? ish freight steamer Kseengu, will? h ar? rive?! at Quarantine from Calcutta to day, were surpris?'d to learn of the Tl tank disaster? having ?passed approxi? mate!] over the scene within twelve in.his of the white sur liner*! founder? ing The Kasengs Is sol equipped with s irelese. "We psssrd ov?_f thai sr??i .?t n???n thne "ii Monday," ?aid ?Captain skeit. "We struek the ice in north latitude II degree! Is minutes and west longitude is degree! 30 minutes. In all there were ai.out twenty-five Icebergs, with H sur rovnding lee iiei?i. and they exteadad as fai" as 41 degrees B6 minutes north and BO decrees west. No sign ?>f wrechage Irae ri-iti? I'd by any of us. but, of course, ti?.t knowing of Ihe disast?T. we didn't look carefully. The I? e fields mav have pushed anj survivors or wreckage away from e-hf eplace where the Tltanl? w??nt down. *?[ remember remarking to the man on watch that some one was likely to have trouble with that Ice."_ AWAITING NEWS AT HALIFAX Liners May Bring Tidings of Some of Titanic's Victims. Malifax. N- 9-. April 19.?Local Interest in the Titanic catastrophe continues keen and the arrival here of the White Star liner Uiurentle .tn?l the Allan liner Victorian, U>tli f,0ni Liverpool, is patiently awaited In the hope that th.-y may bring news of some of the victims of the disaster. Both were In wlrelew communication with Sable Island to-'tay ?>>d a,e ?*??"* ncri? to-morrow. The steamers passed In the vicinity of the disaster The steamer Mackay-nennen, which wa? dispatched from here In search of bodies fro? the Titanic, id expected soon to reach the spot where the Titanic rests in the depths and begin her march for the dead. MA ILL. ARCS BREAKFAST COCOA ,. nuit* unlike any Other and this ?lliferenw ?mSS-*! iu ?uP?r-ori,y*~A<*vl' Speed Not Reduced Nor Watch Doubled When Warning Came from Amerika, Second Officer Testifies, Though Captain Smith Commented on Danger from Haze. v ROSTRON TOOK PRECAUTION IN GOING TO RESCUE OF SURVIVORS Fire in Coal Bunkers Made Chief Engineer Cry, "My God, We Are Lost!" When Informed of Extent of Dam? age from Collision, but Belief in Unsink able Ship Remained General. W. W. Jeffries, general passenger agent of the White Star Line, gave out the company'- official Accounting of the number of survivors of the Titanic yesterday as 70.), divided as follows; First class. 202 Second class. 11 ."> Third Ota*-,. 17? Crew.r. 306 ( Mflcers 70.5 No official statement was made of the number of those lost, and the estimates arc conflicting. The White Star Line has ? previously estimated the number on board at 2,181, which would [make the number lost 1,476. A committee of the survivors ; placed the number on the Titanic at 2.3-M). This would make ?the lost 1,633. Sydney Buxton, president of the London Hoard of Trade, I ?aid Thursday that the Titanic had 2.20S on board when she ?cleared, and this would fix the loss at 1.503. The last total, it ?is thought, will prove correct, as an accurate list of tluise on 'board would have been kept at the port of clearance. The committees formed while the Carpathia was speeding to port having provided for the care of the survivors of the Titanic, all energies were devoted yesterday to fixing the blame *or the disaster. Many contributory causes were discovered. One of the most remarkable and surprising parts of the evidence came in the testimony of Second Officer Lighttollcr, of the Titanic, before the Senate investigating committee at the Waidorf. Mr. Lighttollcr said that a warning of ice ahead had been received at noon Sunday from the Amerika, of the Hamburg** ! American Line, but that the speed of from twenty-two and one-half to twenty-three knots an hour had not been reduced nor had the lookout on the Titanic been doubled, as was the ordinary precaution when approaching ice. "IF IT GETS ?HAZY, WELL SLOW DOWN." He was on watch, in charge of the ship, at 0 p. in., and Cap? tain Smith at that time spoke to him about the ice. saying that it should come close at 11 o'clock. Captain Smith added: "It is very clear. If it gets hazy, we will have to slow down." A fireman among the survivors said yesterday that he passed through the engine room a few minutes before the Ti? tanic struck the ice. and the indicators then showed a speed of more than twenty-two knots an hour. The Senate committee began its investigation at/tlie Wal? dorf yesterday morning. The witnesses yesterday were J. Bruce lsmay, chairman of the board <>1 directors and managing director of the White Star Line: Captain A. II. Hostron of the Carpathia: William O. Marconi and Second Officer Lighttoller, of the Titanic. Mr. lsmay testified that he gave no orders to Captain Smith concerning the speed or handling of the Titanic. He said that he had nothing to do with choosing the crew of the lifeboat in which he was saved, and thai he had done all he could to help load the boats before he thought of saving himself. He looked about the deck on which he was. and, seeing no more women, got in one of the last boats to leave the ship, He was wearing, lie said, ?pajamas, an outer suit, an overcoat and a pair of slippers. Captain Hostron was reluctant to criticise Captain Smith or the handling of the Titanic. He said that after receiving the call for help from the Titanic he turned the Carpathia and rail full *pcd for the disabled ship, but he doubled his lookout and would nol have run full speed, knowing that he was going toward ice. except that he was on a mission of rescue. Resides telling of the warning from the Amerika and the speed of the Titanic, Mr. Lighttollcr said that when he went oft' duty, at 10 p. m?, First Officer Murdock took charge of the ship, and Captain Smith was not on the bridge. Lightiollcr was in his cabin when the crash came, and ran to the bridge. He found both Captain Smith and Mr. Murdock there. Mr. Lighttoller told of the inadequacy of the lifeboat equipment. He said that of the twenty lifeboats one became entangled with the rigging and could not be launched, and an? other was so inconveniently placed on the top of the officers' quarters that it could not be launched. LIGHTTOLLER SUGGESTED LIFEBOATS. The suggestion for putting the women and children into the ?oats came from him, he said, and -Captain Smith replied: "Ves, and let them cast oft'." The faith of all in the unsinkable qualities of the Titanic was demonstrated bj_ .Mi, .Lighttoiler b testiaiou*,- iu repaid tq