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Carpathia s Operator Declares "Damned Fool
on Frankfurt Only Wanted to Know
'What's the Matter?'"
Ismay, Franklin, Several Members of Titanic's Crew and
Probably Many Passengers Will Be Called to
Testify When Hearings Are Resumed
The sessions yesterday of the investigation being conducted at the
Waldorf-Astoria by a sub-committee of the Senate Committee on Com?
merce into the sinking of the Titanic served rather to disclose than to
unravel mysteries.
The Frankfurt, "of some German line." was the first ship to
acknowledge the "C Q D" call of the Titanic, and the wireless operati?
on the Titanic, judging by the strength of the wireless waves, was con?
vinced that the Frankfurt was even nearer than the Carpathia, but the
German ship failed to report her own position and made apparently no
effort to respond to the distress signal of the White Star liner.
The Frankfurt is a North German Lloyd boat and plies between
Galveston and Bremen.
Senator Smith introduced the message sent to Representative
Hughes on the Monday following the crash, which asserted that the
Titanic's passengers were "all safe" and would probably be landed at
Halifax, to which port that ship was "proceeding." This message was
signed "White Star Line," but insistent questioning of both the wire?
less operators at the hearing failed to reveal the slightest warrant for
the message, and its authorship still remains to be explained.
Preceding the convening of the committee Senator Smith admitted
that the government had evidence of the fact that J. Bruce Ismay had
sent three wireless messages from the Carpathia insisting that the
Cedric be held to await the arrival of that ship in order that he himself
and the surviving officers and crew of the Titanic might return imme?
diately to England. These messages are understood to have been
picked up by the cruisers which this government sent to meet the Car?
pathia. as Mr. Ismay, since he was subpcenaed by the investigating com?
mittee, has reiterated his desire "to lend the committee every possible
There was a mere suggestion of mystery in the course of the
Olympic, sister ship to the Titanic, which failed to come to the latter's
assistance, perhaps more of a suggestion of suspicion on the part of the
committee than anything actually brought out. It seems probable that
subsequent developments will show that the Olympic was too far away
to render any actual assistance.
After the noon recess Chairman Smith announced that the com?
mittee would stand adjourned to meet to-morrow morning in Wash?
ington. He explained that it had seemed important to hold some hear?
ings here in order that the plan of the inquiry should be mapped out
and subp?nas issued for those it was desired to examine later, and also
in order that the captain of the Carpathia and his passengers, who had
already made a great sacrifice of time and convenience to assist the sur?
vivors of the Titanic, might proceed on their way to the Mediterranean
without further delay.
Among those who will be further examined are J. Bruce Ismay,
president of the International Mercantile Marine Company; the sur?
viving officers of the Titanic, the surviving wireless operators and others
on whom subpoenas have been served. P. A. S. Franklin, of the White
Star Line, and various members of the crew of the Titanic, together
with a number of the surviving passengers. All surviving members of
the crew who were not subpcrnaecl sai'ed yesterday on the Lapland.
At yesterday's sessions Harold S. BrirJe, the assistant wireless
operator of th? Titanic, was examined. Harold T. Cottam. the wireless
operator of the Carpathia, was recalled, and Herbert J. Pitman, third
officer of the Titanic, was sworn, but his examination was barely begun
when ?njoiirn'Tierit was taken. All the witnesses subp?naed are ordered
to be in Washington to-morrow forenoon.
The. appearance of Bride, who was brought in in an invalid chair,
hi* feet swathed in bandages, his ankle--? having been crushed, added a
dramatic feature to the session, as did the appearance of a young
woman, said to be a Miss Harding, who sobbingly inquired for Second
Cmcer Lighttoller, from whom she sought some further t dings of the
first officer. Murdock, who went down with the ship.
Bride testified that even after the collision had rendered the wire?
less apparatus useless both he and his chief, Phillips, remained at their
quarters until permission was given by the captain to leave the ship,
this being given in the words, "You had better take off yourselves now."
He further testified that he saw the captain on the bridge when it was
practically awash and saw him iump into the sea just before the Titanic
finally disappeared beneath the waves.
Cottam was recalled to ascertain, if possible, what, if any, warrant
there was for the message sent to Representative Hughes, whose daugh?
ter and her husband were on the Titanic, saying that all passengers
were safe and that the Titanic was proceeding to Halifax. Cottam,
who had worked almost incessantly from Monday morninr; to the time
his ship docked, on Thursday evening, was somewhat hazy as to what
messages he had sent, but was quite positive he had not sent anything
to warrant this message and that he had sent no message which was
not true.
He said, however, that the captain of the Carpathia originally in?
tended to put into Halifax, but changed his mind When asked how
he knew Cantain Rcstron contemplated going to Halifax, he replied
that v,-h. >*. ?mrsuant to an inquiry from the Baltic, he had asked the
captain the >hip's destination the captain replied that he could not say
just then. Cottam also testified that he had no orders to remain on
<luty during specified hours, but was permitted to exercise his own
discretion when there were no messages to be sent.
Bride, the Titanic's assistant operator, showed plainly the effects
of the strain and his injuries, answering questions in a low voice, but
without hesitation and with intelligence. He said that so far as he knew
??o ;ne_sage had come to Captain Smith ordering him to change his
com se or speed, or any like message to any other officer of the ship.
He testified to the receipt of a message from the California regarding
the position of ice, although he knew that vessel only by its code
term the letters "M W L." - .
The message, he said, was received about 5 p. m. on Sunday. He
emitted that when the first call came he was' busy on some accounts
an<? did not answer, but that about thirty minutes later he overheard
*he California .ending the message to the Baltic and copied it, handing
*ht message to the captain. The second officer said yesterday that the
tuiti.??..-., on mmmpA il.--.? tamsttt ???1,1
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"A government t>"at picked np mi it - I ting thai Mr. Ismay desired t?> vail on th? i ?-dri?-. .md they were
forwarded tu Washington. . Mr. I-may was anxious t ? ? k?> back and to have tin* crew o? the Titanic go back
immediately. If?* wanted to k<> l?ack ??n the Lapland to day. 1 had t" tell him rather emphatically that be could
not go. . . I mad?* op my mind that Mi I-:*...;, and ih<- members "f hi- crem would have t?> stay here and make
certain explanations t<> the American people. . . American people nerd not fear. We shall ?et the facts
in iliis case." Senator William Alden Smith.
His Testimony Indicates Disaster Could am
Should Have Been Prevented.
? n> ?-??hi? ?o T? ?? rrn
London. April 20. The ?vidence ?given ill ?Sew Vori
before the Senate investigation committee is being closely ("<
amined by Board of Trade experts, shipping officials and tli
British newspaper reading public generally in this country, .1
Bruce Ismay's evidence and Officer Lighttoller's admissions ar*
regarded as justifying Hi? popular opinion thai the dittstei
could and should have been prevented.
What everybody is asking is. Why was th< Titanic drivei
?H ;i speed ?>t" iwrnf\ -tu?i and one-half knots through the ice
/one. and why un-, i he precaution of doubling the lookouts nol
taken? The impression here is thai ll><* publie lias ?been living
in a fools' paradise, thai ?very transatlantic liner lias been nav
?gated with a reckless disregard for human life, and thai th?
Titanic merely followed where other crack steamers led.
An analysis of the death roll shows tli.it two out of every
three tirst class passengers wen* saved, and only two oui of
?every six second class and two oui of ?"very eight third class.
This disproportion is a subject of hitter comment.
Grave news was received to-nighl from Southampton,
where a number of the crew of the Olympic are canvassing
their comrades on r proposal to refuse to embark next Wednes?
day for the voyage to New York owing to the fad thai the
vessel is insufficiently provided with lifesaving apparatus :i
state of things from which the crew is always the first to suffer.
Bayonne Man Tells How Sailors
Kept Him from Lifeboats.
Thomas McConnlek. "? N*'"' ?'?'' *****
'ootf, stras.! Bayonne, ?'t young Irishman
|who was ? gscond clam passenger on the
?Titanic whan she went down lasl Mon
day morning, told s Ihrllllnf story lasl
lnlfhl of hot? bis life had been spared b)
|tha pleadings end protestations of ?vs.?
young irtoh gtrta "ho had bean fellow
pea*???? ???? ?" Whitest*. '"'",
wiirn the Cunard liner Carpathls
do.-k-n ?... Thureday nigbl McCormlek
was taten lo st. Vincent's Hospital, suf?
fering fro? ?hoch ?''?,1 "M'*'-1*"*" Hl?
glrter Mrs. Catherin* Bvsw, ?with whom
ht. lived at ????? Bayonne ??ddrsaw,
,.,.ar. had lbs eitv fof him and round him
la. i night . .
McOormlch ?.?id be was eroueed from
hM bod by " trembling ..r tha ship sad
the stoppte! of >?"' ?"?'"?'a- ,I" lin,i lwo
courina who w?sw with htm baattly
dre .sod and started for t_M Upper declL
Wli.-n they reached Um Stall-WSJ? Ilc
Cormlch suid. two ofltoers ?boat than
1 bo4___ but they Anally got past ami
| rushed out on dock.
uni-, on d.'.k. .VM'orml.k lost sight of
! hi? c.uHi.is. but grabbed a llf? preeemr
Ihimwif. fastened it and le*?ed mrar
; board. He ?aw a lifeboat crowded wltb
i ?romeo aw? attempted to eUaab aboard,
i,.. .mi. but n beat?n o? by the sail
ors. who stiu? k Mm "'? ?h' ???'???? :u,<J
liandH with Hi?- oare.
M?<'..iml< 1? paddled about in n
m venu nlmrtoB end Uw n tried
to ... t Into ? --?bei* ';??bo..t. Again bt won
??? :?t?'ii ??IT by ti??* ealloni, and mi aban
i?. *-i\.- ni? the attempt when lwo youni
j-iri.s ilttlng In the Ht??rii ?.f the boa
stretched out tin?lr anus ami pulted htn
mi i.???nil, ?Jet-pite th<- proteati of tli?
. ulloni, win? f'iii-.-i| th- boat would ui?M*t
Rven aft-r he lay m the bottom <??* lh?
?boat, llcCormlcfc said ili<* man in ? harK*
tried f?> puah him <?tT, bul the fbli i?r??
i. ted, and he mag allowed t<> n-niain.
McCormlck win leave th.* h?pital In w
day or two
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i New Transatlantic Routes Now
More than 130 Miles Longer.
Waahlngton, A-?r!i Vs. ?taeordtng t?>
?.??????fill meaauntmanU made bj Captain
Knapp, thief hydrocraph??r <>f tin* navy,
the dactitoa ?-?f ill?- tranaatlantlc ?team?
?-i.ii? oompanlae t?? change the great s?-;i
routaa ISO mtlea further eouth in tha In?
t?T?'Ht of mgtots <?f paiaonaere result? in
lengthening tha ?list:in<?? from Ambroae
Channel L-lfhtahlp, at the entrance ? <?
i N<-\\ v.irk Harbor, t?? Blabop'i !<??? k. off
the Stilly I?*!in?l8, ?m lh. KiiKliah coast,
by precisely 183 nautical mllta for th?-,
southern rout?' eaatbound and 188 miles
WOOtbouad. Th?> exact ?ll.-tances ar?*:
Bo ith.-rii routa, eaatbound, old, 3*006;
r?*\v, 8.188; louthcrn rauta. w?"-ti?oun?J,
old, 2JG8; BOW, :\.if.n mil? .--. This means
that at 23 kn>?..?-* averafa apoad it wOl
taka ih<* Unan ? trifle over six boun
moi.? i? eoror Um transatlantic couraa.
*. .* ,i . ? ' ? i ? ? ' ? i> 'train un?l Bui)'.
!! T l*?KW?:\ a .-' N.S ? ??., Jj lii't-ii .-t...N.V
Survivor Declares That Titanic's
Lookout Shouted of Danger
Three Times Before Crash.
"No Wonder Murdock Shot Him?
self.'' Said One, Angry That
Their Vigilance Should
Go for Naught.
Ttir.-r warning)? that an Iceberg ?*a?
ahead were transmitted from the crow's
n?it of ?h*? Titanic to th* officer on the
hridg? fifteen minutes before ah? struck.
!.r,...rdiiip t?i Thomas Whltelev. a first
saio?.n stewsrd, now in Bl Vincent's
Both the prow's ueel lookouts were
need. Whltelejr rays he boato a eon?
rersatlon between them In which they
dismissed ths warnings given to the
Titanic's bridge of ?he presence of the
"1 heard one ol them ?ay thai at 11.15
o'clock, fifteen minutes before the Ti?
tanic strnck, hs reported >to i..rst Officer
?Murdock on the bridge that hs fancied
ha saw an Iceberg," m?a Whlteley.
"Twice efter that the lookout said he
warned Mr. Murdock thai s ?berg was
?head, i ?.?n't remember ihrir exact
words, but they were very Indignant
that no attention was paid to their
warning?. Ona of them said: 'N?> won?
der Mr. Murdoch shut himself.'"
IVhItelej said that on one of tho tirst
boato low?ered the only passengers aboard
were a man who he was told was an
American millionaire, but wife, his child
und his two valets. The others in the
i,.,,it wars Bremen and coal trimmers, ha
said, eseven In number, whom the man
had premiered to pay well if they would
man the lifeboat. They mud?? only thlr
i,.,.ii In all.
?| d<> i.ot know the man's name." said
Whlteley. ' ? heard It, but have forgot
.,,,, jt But i raw .m order for ?b which
this man gave t?> each of the crew of his
boat after they got aboard the Carpathla.
li was on B piece of ordinary paper ad
dressed to t,)r Coutto Hank, of England.
?\V, called that boat the 'money boat.'
It was lowered from the starboard side.
?,rid was one of the flrsl off. Our orders
mymre to load the lifeboats beginning for?
ward on the port side, working aft and
then back oil the starboard. This man
paid the firemen to lower ? starboard
boat before the officers had given th<?
Whlteley also told hOU he swain
around f?>r Whal seemed to Mm at least
I two hours, how be reached an over
I turrird boat covered with men. how Bee
' ond Ofl-Ce? I.ighttoller told him It was S
,..,_:,. ,,l thirty-two lives ..gainst his and
hoa finally ?me of th<.? men clinging to
tnt. boat dropped "ff exhausted and he
mfmg pull? ?1 uv to take his place.
1 ?anta bUmb ?*. ''?('-?. April 2).-The bedj
t Mrs M U. Schiller, said to have been
' m ? '-ou?s, was found In the ocean
to-day. Otm had Jumped to her d??utn
,tme lust night. According to friends,
i xi-. Schaler -vas mu<*h ;iff^?*tt?U by the
lltanle ilrastfTT a.id It is believed her
' w?,i rara way.
Every Ship to Have More Than Enough Safely
Equipment for Everybody, Irrespec?
tive of Legislation, He Says.
Ismay and Frank'in Ordered to Testify Before Full Com?
mittee in Washngton?Wanted to Get Away at
Once, Chairman Says, Giving Intercepted Messages
Ordering Cedric Held for Titanic^ Crew.
A step that seemed obvious a week ago. when the sinking
of the Titanic and the terrible loss of life became known, was
taken yesterday and was the first attempt to prevent a similar
disaster in the future.
Orders were issued for even* ship on all the lines of the
International Mercantile Marine Company to be equipped im?
mediately-with lifeboat, and rafts enough to save the life of
every human being on board in case of an accident at sea.
The lines affected by this order include the White Star,
the American, the Atlantic Transport, the Red Star, the Ley
land and the Dominion.
Ifi telling of the issuing of the order J. Bruce Ismay,
president of the International Mercantile Marine Company and
chairman of the board of directors and managing director of
the White Star Line, said:
"I determined to do this, irrespective of any present or
future laws on the subject, either in this country, in England,
or Holland, or any other foreign countries touched by the lines
of the international Mercantile Marine Company.
'I am going to see to it that not only every passengci, hut
every member of the crew on any ship of the White Star, the
American and all other lines of the International Mercantile
Marine shall in the future be as safe as possible in ease of
another accident.
"We are not waiting to merely comply with the Ian. We
are going to disregard the technicalities and give the most
ample and complete protection to human life, irrespective of
.11 legal requirements. In the future there will never arise a
condition in which there is not room foi even-body in the life?
boats or on tiie unsinkable pneumatic liferafts, that are not
even capable of being upset in rough weather."
The Senate investigating committee continued its sessions
at the Waldorf yesterday. The witnesses heard were H. S.
Bride, ihe surviving wireless operator of the Titanic, and IL T.
Cottam, the wireless operator of the Carpathia. J. .Bruce
ismay and P. A. S. Franklin, vice-president of the White Star
( ompany, were in attendance.
With the surviving officers, twenty members of the crew and
several of the surviving passengers of the Titanic. Mr. Ismay
and Mr. Franklin have been subprrnaed to appear in Washing?
ton to-morrow morning before the full Senate -committee in?
vestigating the Titanic disaster.
Before the morning session yesterday Senator Smith said
that the reason he and Senator Newlands hurried to Ncv York
to begin the investigation here was that the government ?miser?-.
had intercepted wireless messages from the Carpathia show-iis:
that J. Bruce Ismay wanted the Cedric. of the White Star Line,
held to take him and the crew of the Titanic back to England
immed;rttely on their arrival here.
The mess'igcs were sent to P. A. S. Franklin, of the White
Star Line, under his code name. "Islefrank," and were signed
with Mr. [smay*8 code name, 'Yamsi." The following have
been published as the text of the messages:
Tslefrank. New York:
Very important you should hold Cedric daylight Fridav
for Titanic crew. Answer. VAMSI.
Islefrank, New York:
Think most unwise keep Titanic crew until Saturday.
Strongly urge detaining Cedric, sailing her midnight, if
desirable. YAMSI.
Tslefrank, New York:
Unless you have good and substantial reason for not hold?
ing Cedric, please arrange do so. Most undesirable have
crew New York so long. YAMSI.
Senator Smith said yesterday morning: "__ government
boat picked up those messages stating that Mr. Ismay desired
! to sail on the Cedric, and they were forwarded to Washington.
?It was that which made me take an early train to New York.
lit was ?.hat which made me go to New York Thursday ?light,
when the Carpathia docked.
"Mr. Ismay was anxious to go back and to have the crew
of the Titanic go back immediately. He wanted to go back
on the Lapland to-day. I had to tell him rather emphatically
that he could not go.
"I fuade up my mind that Mr. Ismay and the members
of his crew would have to stay here and make certain explana?
tions to the American people.
'The American people need not fear. We shall get the
Tacts in this ease."
When Mr. Ismay was asked about the messages he said:
'Although I haven't had time to compare the publishe?'
telegrams with those I sent, I can say that I did send telegram
tot tha purpose of expediting the return of the Titanic's cref
to England. Most of the crew have relatives on the other sidr
and were anxious to get home after their harrowing experience.'*

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