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EIGHT PAGES. MISCELLANY AND ART. NEW-YORK, SUNDAY. MAY 5, 1912. Abdul Baha Talks t Oriental Who Would Break Down Sectarian Lines and Unite Mankind Under a Single Simple Religious Creed Finds in the Power of the Spirit an Answer to All Worldly Problems. WHAT do you a*i>rct? What y n doa'l expact! I found myaatf rapaatlng this formula of th? fortune teller. facinc her paek of carda, as i entered thr conidor of the HoteJ Atisonia on my way to Intenrlew the Paralaa teachar, Abdul Baha, leader r>f th*> Bahaltea. What I aapactad tn find waa tho apoatle ' . tha advocata of tha almpla life and the unlveraal brotbarbood of man in (.omc rjuiet. unobtruaJve aort of place, a little apart from the maddlnp crowd, whare .r, ? ide and reflectlon mlght bo his for the aaklng The llot.d Ansor.ia. s-ituated at one of the trafllc centrea, 7W atreet and Broadway, scarcely anawera that deacrlption, docs It? It waa near tha dlnner hour. I atopptd ( - moment to watch the well dreaaed, aell fed looking crowd paaa to and fro. women wlth pet Poma, nolay ehlldran un? dar guardianahlp of ]>atient BOVcrneaaeB; p^n, ? ; of the ?'? o'clock cock tail. buaUing ;n fronn ahowy limoualnea, offlclala, OTarbuttonad hellboya, squir r? l rage entrancea wblrllna madly?ln fact, ,v,nih!iii; movlng al a high ran- of apeed. : to myaelf: "WaU, of all the | to Bnd the Maati r!" What l dldn't expact. I mlght bave tapsed Into quite a cynlcal hadn'1 been that jnst then I nottced hi w .-uft and aquaahy tha ? d l thought of tba forty Abdul Baha had apenl In prlaon, and ??< ?f c(, . t'a tha earpeta. They .eeni awfully nlca to feel that hava trod prlaon Btonea. I don't blame hlm." ovared, T recelved the newa from Ippy clerk, "Fifth floor. Room 111," with a chlrpy reai and aklpped taito tbe elevator. (m my way to the i raral phere of the uppi r floora I found n hoplng thai the Baha would tell tne I had ly aoul. They aay he Rnda out tha nranR,?t thlnga about you. on<- of my frlenda has a rose aent to her ? e from Akka. whh h, Bhe the ar'tna of the wonderful spirlt, and another, after makinc me promlae I wouldn'1 tell croaa my heart and all that atated that I told her aha waa .< arlae woman. ? to find mysolf rme of a conomirse of poople. j all actuated by th" samo mtercat My editor had glven me tho informatlon j that there wera flve thoupand Rahaltes ln j Amerlca and about twenty mllllon ln the I world, ho why 1 ahould havo expected t" have tho Baha all to mysolf I rli> not km'?. hut | flirl i Bolaced my dlaappolntmenl hv atudylng th" ylaltora, ouiioua to laarn what aort of peopla the falth drew to Itaelf. , An enthualaatlc, plump, middle-aged little peraon, gowned in a very worldly manner, haloed wlth a new aprlng hat. whoaa arti |flclal aipr.ttes had the real optlmlBtlc alant, was telllng the atranger aeated near 1 of a domeatlc dlaturbance. <'f couraa it had tn do arlth a t ook. ; "l Jual knew if i t-.'iievoi hard enough." laald ahe, "I rould mak<' her feel the aame." 1 A young woman daughter, l Judged ca t a realgned h?>k mother'a way. ! Daughter was Burne Jonesy, patlenl to Iparent'a aggreaalve peraonallty, wlth the tolerance of the young-oW for tho oW? Hor thln, wlllowy framo waa tho expreaalon of the gentli cynlclam that i from Hvlng wlth on.' who :s over ; balanced wlth altrulatlc a-orda Ify glance then carromed wlth a man ! who had aped down i ? ahi ad of me. !!?? bad flylng coattatla and a black aom braro, ao l claaalfled him aa from the Mld ? \'. .st. for in my Rogi t'a Tl ? terma aro aynonymo _ft r. Beveral groupa of forelgnera, allent, expectant, drew mj n gard M u " pro8peroua*Iooklng bualnesa men and many ? rilng women. Thi !?? waa a pretty gli on a narro? ?. :t aha mual have i"ts of oi? She wore a aad, wlthdrawa look aa of one who liv?s on the hei| ta A atoul man. baldlah, wlth a frlnge of long halr on bla] . had the remalnlng two-thlrda of the seat. loiiinc agalnal i.t, and turnlng up his i eyea to r;,zo int<> here, whl< h wore, ln turn. | turned up. Thoy wore very much ln the plcture. Bome Buburbanltea atared their way admlrlnaly, wlahlng ti>y rould do it Buddenly thera waa a atlr, mun "Tho Bfaater!" Many atood up, a few ruahed from the room, among them Ihe Kn thualaat -THE GREAT NEED OF THIS COUNTRY IS THE SPIRITUAL PHILOSO PHY." Of aaaraa i aaaaJkhTt taU that, knowine; her a?t I do I fatt all aorts af mystle posslbilitlf* awaited me the oth-r Bl<Ie af thr> d<.?r. 1 Btrlpped my mlnd of sll its worldly dobrln. By a tremendoua effort I ahut out the seethln* nolsf-s of the hotel. I BtaaaS my eyes. I attatned the holy ralm. At my flnger's pressure on the bell the door flew Bfjaa *lth a most unholy BVaatl. Ha fam h af taaaaaa, no tJakttag e? batta no prostrate flK'ires and aha*f8f8i1 bene dJetlon*. A ruddy fared. red halred ynuth wlth the faclal line r.r the Orlent was before me. He was ln his shlrt sl.-eves. 1 had been rrltkiHlna the lark of slm pllelty and ?h< n I Faw lt I wasnt satls Sai. Isn't that tlie woman of lt? Ortalnly thare ls nothin* more simple than shlrt sle,-veh! Burprtse made me speechiesa Me was. however. not perturbed ln the least, fltood aslde for me la pass and sakl, "Abdul Baha and Dr. Kareed are drlvlriK- WM you ???? Instde and walt?" 1 seented the perfume of many flowers tn my long pllgrlmage from the door to the Bsataa, paaaaai aaraaai rooma en auite, a llttl- world oy itself, an oasls ln the aand Btormn of glltter and glare. BVU?plnf Into a ready chalr, 1 lookad about From an imwr apartmont rarne, now a RtrariKe tnodley of eoianda. There was B cbattar of Uada^aHchad Atafertoaa retoaa; a baautifuUy modnlattfl one, i laarnad af torward. waa that of I>r. Fareed, the inter pratar and friond. I>omlnatlnK all, by a peculiar. welrd quallty. waa a nasal mono tone unllko any Bound 1 had evor hrard. in my rattred earaar i aaamed to *ee again, an oneo t>efore. at dusk. thai flork of llttlo lamhkina tn the parfc. toewly tK.rn and bloarlnar The vision aaasjaaaad and eaaaajai untll ln paaea af Uaaaa were the other florks <f lorlptural day., on the elopes of f'armel, ,,. ,r tha Calllean Poa. those watehed over by the .hephords at nlRht. The monotone I blinked my 80*81 Everyr-ody ln the room was Btandlna. breathleaaly expectant. I roaa, meehanlcally Ahdul Baha antered. Ho 1. Bl'BJCJalT ahove m*dlum heljrht, but Bl extraordlnary Ib the dlgnlty of his ma jostlo carrlaKe that he aeerned more than the average atature. He wore, over bi-cult rolored velveteen trouaers glrdled wlth white. a lon*. full rooe of KTayleh wool. The Panama fez waa wound wlth white foldB. While alowly maklng the round of the room hle aoft. penetratlng. faded eyea siudled ua all. without aeernlng t? do ao. o Kate Carew of Things Spi AN APPLE-CHEEKED YOUTH GOT A NICE. PATERNAl LITTLE PAT FROM THE MASTER. I r.- - I ' M' ? arere not all j oung a io thla freatlna He atoppc 'li' and boya, l ? ? ? 'ii ln < >il- nt.il ll I A hl ? ? rled." h n I'"k of the fare I I . r. . looki llks ? [llnea He dld nol want 1 '"'? hel ? l .m. ,of straylni I jthlnl - f that ? . He patl 1 fo tl uid my- ' I gol ii ti!- ? l ? , .,.. f,.:. oh, ao mu< h more llke f'.lks w.- e<.T"i ouraehrea about hhn A k00'' looklna rouna Turk uadaratudylBa t'r i r"are< ei alned modeetly: "You knoa lt - [a \<:v dlfflrull to traaalata the afaater i .. iel| roa tha arorda, t 01.itd i oa : ?''- Ii t< rprel th< bei ? . > .? inforn i them . i ? : ? ight! Tt.<' Baha n | ? tatemenl h? had ,i ,??,;, ? to tudenta of Columbia ? ? "The areal tk ? i <>i thla country la tl a iphy, tha phlloaophy of i e ' Ood. Bvery one aranta I tlflc trutha, but ara ahould aaak tha . ? of tha aplrlt aa arelL ( n i "Natural phll< ?a a rerjr beautl ' ? ; ral body, hut the eptrttual phlloao , hy r that b fly. if thla body w th thla aptrtt, th.-n we have the ? "Whai ''..xi givea us In thla world la f?r oui body la for a time. ..ur ralUlona of dollara ar.' for i time, our bouaaa, our Butomoblles, the aame. P-nt the sptritua! j-'lts of Ood aro forever. Tho jjreatne.s of this world wlll come to an end. hut the tneaa of the aplrltual world la etemaL Read hlatory. Bee how emperora and came and went N"thlnK 1. left. Tho klngdom of the world paaaea; tba kingdom of Ood Wlll . n-ltire." ? ? ra aaked. A soctail.t looklng I- raon Inqulred: "Do you belleve ln dlvtdtng property and . rerj tl i "You may hrlnur all the physlral powara of th.- eartb, you may biing all the natural THE INTERPRETER SAID: "I CAN TELL YOU HI3 WORDS, BUT IT IS DIFFICULT TO GIVE YOU THE 80UL -THE SPIRIT-OF HIS MESSAGE." ritual and Mundane Leader of the Bahaites, Who Has Been Called the "Breeze of God," Reveals to Interviewer a Day's Processes in His Quiet Campaign for the Advancement of His Spiritual Philosophy. powers of the earth. and try by thelr' means to make a union where all wlll love each other. where all wlll have peace?but surh means will end ln failure. But look how the splrltual power has brouKht us all together and makes us love earh other. This meetlnfc has been hrought ahout by splrltual means. You have oome berause the splrltual power led you." "Wlll the East and West ever be unlted?" inqulred another. Tha Baha answored Immedlately: 'It would be lmpossfble by the natural forces only, hut that unlon between the East and the West. of love between the people here and there. wlll oome throuxh the splrltual power. Mahomet All. the founder of the Bahalte falth. said that If he eould spend all the cash of the unlverae to brinaT love among; manktnd lt would resulr In failure. but with the splrltual power he aucccmdad in making the people | of the East and the people of the West love each other, l*our ooming. here t<> nlght proves this. lt is a Kift of God." ?ome one lnterrogated hlm roncerninK tho misslon of the theatre. Ha was mucti aaitatad at this question. Blld the younif Turk explained: "The Maatar aajra that h* went to the theatre to-day where they show how ("hrlst was eroctfled (Tha TerrlbJa aaawk*). Ha saw the n<tn. H< wept. lt ls more than one thousand, nino hundred years sinoe tliat tlme. He was unable to help hlm. V<s, he wept. and BOt only he, but many others wept. too." I oan lmagine repeatintr his phrases to some of my clever frlends, wh<? would be sure to say: "Why, that's as ol<l as the htlls. I don't see anythlng to make a fuss about In that." But tha time bonored arorda even re peated by an Interpreter, are so fraut?ht with the Baha'a wonderful peraonatttjr that ( ,nr.y noem never t<> have been uttarai ba I more. Hls meaniriK Is not oouched In any \ . snterle phraaaa AKaln and again he has I dlacuUmed the possesston of Mdataa tara Again anrl again be has placed the attaln l menta of the heart and soul above those of the mlnd. After a few more questions an<l answers the meetlng is deelared adjotirned. Ahdul Baha rlses and passes Into the inner room, where he ajtvea aoma private hearlngs. No one starts to g<>. He haa actually made New Vn.-k people forgat tho dinn^r hour. ' That In itself is a victory. I think. Don't you? From my corner I walt my turn. acai:, abaorbed arat< hlaf the human currcnt. Brlde and brtdefroom pass with ecstatlc faceav lilddle Weal amootba his domlnaut coattalla aflaa Burna Jones foilows at a dlacreet dlstanee Enthuslaetto Parent. who Rtea about ktssing everybody. I galn a damp aaluta on my chln. Newspaper people go in and out. Turks, ?yi lana, buslness m<n. domesttc and 80 <,tety wonien. Children. Tt |i aald that the wtfe and daughter. of Abdul Baha. brought up aoeordlng to Wostem ldeas of education. are llvlng ln Aloxandrla. more or le.s fettered by the oonventlonalltieB of that Eastern clty. It ls also true that ln the early day. of the Bahalte movement women per'ormed prodtgles of bravery and sacrlfke for tha faith. so I ask: "Do you belleve ln woman'. deilre for freedom?" He adjusts hl. turban?a frequ-m man? nerism. "The soul haa no sex." "In a cupreme moment. as ln that of tha Tltanlo disaater, shnuld hoth ?exes ahara the danger equally?" "Women are- mnra deiioate than men. This deltcacy men should take into con iidaratlon. That 1. their ohllgatlon. If tha time ever come. when tho average woman Is a man's equal ln phy.loal .frength thera wlll be no need for this con.-ldor.itlon; but not untl! then." Aa he ?ays this he shake. the wonderfat, full-domed head and the elugsong reclta tion ha. a note of great 8w*etJBBaa I thought of hl. childhood. passod among such unspeakahle, aceaea of distrcss?early matured into knowh dge of .ln and norrow. I marvollod at hi. chlldlike slmpllelty, whlch ls comblned wlth a s.>rt of agclesa, spirltual wisdom. I asked: "Is It posslble for us over to rld ?m> selves of our grown-up llluslor.s nnd be? come. as Chrlst said, 'as little childron"?" ? I'ertainly. Tfeere is BBCB a thing ns In nnoence, due to tgnoranre, due to weak ne.?. It Is lnnate ln the ,-hlld to be almple, but when a person bccnmes matured there BbOUld l*? surh a thing as lnno- onco of knowledge. of strongth. For lnstance, a < hild. owlng to certain weakness, may not Iie. Even If the ehlM wlshes to tell an un truth it is incapahle of doing lt Thla la due to his impotenop; but when it 1 "cnmes Old and its morals reoalve isCtUllde, th-n through pure. conselous potenoy can lt re ftraln ltself from lyim?" "T>.> we most need suffering or happlness to open to us the door of splritual undrr standing?" "Trlals and sufTerlng for th* perfect man are good. For an hwperfect tl^y are a test. F"or example. a drunkard may, through his sin, lo.e all his poaseaaicns. He ls east Into a great ordeal. That is hla punlshment. But the man who Is endeav oiing along the path. of virtuoys a hlcve ment may nieet ordeals whlch ar? really bountlea, f?r they wlll help hlm." "Wby is a chlld near the splrit land?" "Dooanaa childron are so Innocent. They have no ?tratag< ms. Their hoarts are llka tprtng m.-adows." "Should we traln the young mind with falry tales or something more realistlc?" "Fairy tales will not help a chlld. Any thlng without a foundation of truth lack. permanon.^e. We should belng early to cul tlvate in rhildren vlrtues, to teach them the realitles of life." THE MASTER. I recall that it has been said Of Abdul Baha that he Is the only man in the world who at hls dlnner table has gathered Per gjaa, Zoroaataa, Jew, christian. Mahom etan. The last one ls a small boy, brimming over wlth vltality. who rushes through the room like a whirlwlnd. He des-r.bes hls lmpreshlons In one curt word: "Radiator!" Th. little, aala mother looks mlldly apologetio. As I rmpoui lo Dr. Fareed's altaal and pass into tbe Inner room 1 notioo every arbere rymptoma of departun. I get the lmpr.-ssion or a large, masoulino famlly mtaratlas from one part of tha a*orld to another, bringtaf uhbbBBb;bb of goo<i eheer and broiharlr feellng. It is very tnsptring. I flnd tha Baha Baatad in a oomfortable easy ohair at the bay arladow. I>r. Far.od sits near hlm as soon as I have taken my place. Hls beaiitiful voloe, llke a go!den ,., ao, foMowB eloaa tba taratfaataaa or ea<h I sentenoe. The master looks very Bplrituelle. He is ln a relaxed attltude. sometlmes "golng into tha Bltanra" a>8 muoh more akln to th.. t-pltlf world than this does he seem lhat l tind myself often ad.lrossmg Dr. FHree.l personally, reterrtng to hlm In the ihlrd person. ??Do you think our luxury degenorate, I ask. "as In this great hotel?" Abdul Raha stroke* his long whlte brard. "Lrtiaury has a llmit. Be>ond that limlt | lt ls no? oornmendahle There Is such a l ,hing 88 moderation. Men must be tem perate ln all thlngs. " "Does the attentlon pald at present ln this country to materlal thlngs sadden you? Does lt argue to you a lack of prog ress?" ??your materlal civillxatlon ls very won derful. If only you wlll allow dlvin. tdeal lsm to keep pace wlth lt there 1? great bope for geneial progreea." "Is there any way of maklng thla life ba a eommeroial clty less crude for the young boy and girl?" "lt would ba well to get them together and say 'Young ladies. Ood has created you all human: lsn't it a pity that you Hhould pass your energry along animallMlc lines? (Jod has created you men and women ln order that you may aojuire. hl. vlrtuee. that you may progress ln all the degrece. that you may be veritabie angels. hoiy and sanotlfled.' " "There are so many temptatlons put ln their way," I murmur. The Abdul Baha looks very sympathetlc, but his singsong tone. are rolontlog.ly firm. "Let them try a little of the dellcacy of the BpiHtual world, the Kweetnoss of lt. per* fectlon and see whlch life ls pieforahle (?n* leads man to debasement, the end of lt is remorse. tho ond of it is scorn, the end of it Is confuslon. Traise he to Ood you are gifted wlth intelloct.' I would say to them. ?C,od has created you noble, Why are you wllllng to degrade yourself? Ood ha. cre? ated you brlght, radiant. how ara Jpaa '"?,li Ing to he Bteeped in darkness? Ood ha~ created you supreme. Why are you wllllng to be degraded Into the aby.s ?f de.palr? Admonlsh them In thls way and rxhort them." I notlced a trombllng of the eyellds and that the gestures of arranging hia turban and stroklng his beard were more nervously frequent. Dr. Fare<-d answered to my In qulry. "Shall I go now?" "He haa been givlng of himself to every one slnee. 7 o'clock thl. mornina I am a parfacg physlcal wreck. but he 1. wllling to go on Indeftnltely." Abdul Baha opened the half-elosed eye? llds to say: "I am golng to the poor ln the Bowery now. ? lo\e them. ' I was Invlted to accompany them. Tha tontlnued oa a-vealh page.