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Hard Work and Plenty of It Marks
Practice at Varlous Football Camps
Yale Coaches Still Busy in
Buiiding Up Substitutes.
MORE ENDS AT HARVARD
Minds, of Pennsylvania, Says
That He Never Played at
Dickinson College.
i Hv TeWgraph to The Tribune]
New Haven, t'onn.. Oct. 23-The rna?
jority of Yale's .football regulars had
another easy day and were excused from
all hard work thls afternoon while the
coaches paid much attentlon to the sub?
stitutes.
After the signal drlll the scrub. sub
BtttatflS and some of the 'varsity men
were pltted agalnst each other ln a scrlm
inage of fifty-flve. minutes. One feature of
the work was particularly pleasing to
the coaches. Camp made a short high
liunt whlch Castles caught for the scrub
and ran to the two-yard llne before he
Wai Aswasd. The line held hard, how- '
ever. and after four downs the scrub was
unable to score. lt waa the beat exhlbl
tlou of defensive play tbe team Has
shown this year
After holdlng for downs Camp punted
beyond inidfield and followlng an ex
I hange or two tl.e flrst eleven regalned
th- ball and rush.-d It down the tield for
a touchdown. Camp finally ahooting over
outside tackle tor tl.e score. Pumpelly
ki. k.-d tht* goal.
luiring this time Wneeler acted as quar
terbaek. Hls work, none too good at ftrst,
lmproved as the play went on. but it look
lum twenty minutes to make the BOOTS.
Loftua then supplanted Wheeler and
'made his team score in flfteen minutes.
The work of all tbe qua.ters was con
eidered falr. the men shouing a little lm
j.rovement accordlng to Howe.
Cornlsh and Cornell have not been used
| rtauDSgfl ti.isw"k,asthefor...-rh.^
u stiff ankk- and the latter ls belng rested.
to the quarterbaek position is relativel>
un.haiiKed and as unsetiled as ev. i.
Dyer flnished the M ssion as quarter
I . ai.d the..- WSS little to ObOOSS ue
tweaa the work of the three. Dy-r flaaa
IO oot near enough to try a^ goal
from the rieid oa tha as-yart Us* but it
f*-'1 short.
?!-,. practlce to-day was held on tbe
l asbmaii BeM ; *'"' '"avy ,am'
?Tl ra waa bo! bo much lumbling as aa
tedwitta h beavy, wstball. Tba tetja
Uin Bpent their time kicking. forward
| and eatehing the SttpPSrjf OVBl.
iSl of them roported wlth the exception
Cl FhUbln and 1-lynn, who had recitat.ons.
The followlng nnii WOfS used In tO-da) a
, raaiagfl as tbe 'varsity: ibeldon, UUs
anuusboi... ends; M Wsrrsn aad TaJbot.
m Pendloton. anbrtltuto; iur:,,.!..
arsen. gosnls. wltb "fbV**'**?**
formw v. rrtty centre, who baa boea Me
? aIiy otl..-, man on tba
*. *8 8l,,st,..... UeNeM and Ket
cham, oeatresi Wbaeler. Lottas. Dy?.
,ua* tOfbnchS. CaBtp and Baker *?*_* J*"" ]
Jaek; Pumpelly and B.-ck.-n. rlght halt
lu. k' WlSI r, fullback.
Harvard Prepares for Brown.
Mass Ocl M- Harrard'a
geotball teaa dovoted thla afternoon to
worklng up Ita atuck for Saturday ?
game against Brown. besldes settlngthe |
giunndwoik of the attack that wlll be j
WOd Bgalnat the Prlneeton Tigers ten (
hen.-e. The COSCbSS were not sat- j
| with the way the BOCOnd tOSM
. Brown's pla>s yeaterday, so the
, had another day ln which to prs
i for the wssk'a flnal serlmmags
Bt the 'va'
The two reguiar teams, the flrst string
and Irst subetitutes, each were coached
on the same serles of plays. and while
Uned up agalnst each other it was
onlv for the purpose of working out of
the' Interferonoe sastgnsssnta Mucb
WSS done on forward passing. Hercto
fore Harvard has bOSS BStBg only the
fimpiest of stralghtaway paasos, but
later ln the S4ason wlll show a far
grsatST development of this department
Of the game than any of Haughtons
teams have yet uneoveied.
There was good news in the Harvard
camp to-day. when lt was learned that
HolMeter and Lawsoa will be able to
play wlth the 'varalty. Hollieter looks
good at end. although he hardly can
hope tO replace Coolidge. whose work
Bgalnst Amherst was so brllllant.
The Crlmson ls fortunate in havlng
Pelton on the llst. for >csterday, while
ln the Jefferson laboratory, where br
was working on an experlment which
called for the generation of hydrogen
ga*. Pelton's apparatus exploded and he
es aped wlth a lot of scratches on hls
face and hands. He was a sorry Slght
on the football fleld to-day, however.
Harvard will not l>e able to use 1(0
Qalre and Cleary on the 'varsity line
thls year, as nelther has been recom
led for lemoval from probation.
McOalre was Harvard's heaviest lliy
tnan Drl?*coll now is the beat man for
guard, besldes Trumbull and Pennock.
WbO have the call for the Prlneeton
game at least. Beebe also stands out as
the. best substitute tackle for Storer or
Hltchcock, Tom Krothlngham. however,
havlng shown conslderable Improvement
liitely
It Is now positive that. except for the
Bboenrt of Wendell at fullback and
Oardner at qua: ter. Harvard wlll be able
to Bfl?d Its strongest team agalnst
Bi.iwn. the team that wlll meet the
Tlgerfl a week later
Pennsylvania Playa in Mud.
1 hlladelphla. Oct. 23.? Pennsylvania's
football squad had a long and hard drlll
this afternoon. although the fleld was a
vetitalle aea of mud. After running
tnrough BBgaala and trylng several new
plays the flrst team and the scrub llned
up f.?r a snappy scrlmmage.
Minds contlnuerl to glve the slgnals
from hls place at halfback. He got
j.lentv of BflWOd Into the plays.
Jt looks now as if the coaches were
eatisfled wlth Minds for thls work Bfl
wlll glve the elgnals ln the I_fayette
game on Saturday. and lf he proves his
abllity wlll continue ln the position for
the remalnder of the season.
Captaln Mercer is resting this week. as
the coaches fear he is a little too "flne.**
He has been in tralnlng almost contlnu
oisly since the sprtng track season. and
a little rest ls expectcd to do him good.
Irvsi>eaking of the prote*t from Michl
gan Minds deelared thla afternoon that
he bad never been at Dickinson College,
Carllsle, in his llfe, but had played three
years on the team of IMrklnson ri. nlnary,
a preparatoty achool at Wllllamsport.
I?st year was hla flrst year of college
football, he says, and consequently he
wlll Iro ellgible under the rules of the
Big Football
Games at Hand
Kol Metzger, one tlme captain of the
I'cnn.jhinl* football eleTeo. wlll he at
Princeton on Saturday to aee the Tlgera
do baltle wlth Dartmouth ln a game that
wlll count In the flnal pla.ing of the
leading teama.
Mr. Metzger'a analytleal Btorlea are an
added feature of tbe aportlng pagea of
Ihe Siindny Tribune, and now that Ihe
"l?lg" game* nre at hand hl* Imprea-lon*.
and rritliiam* are aure to be of Ilvely
intereat.
two unlversltles to play for two more
years.
Signal Drill for Brown Team.
(By Telegraph to The Tribune.J
rrovidence, Oct. 23.?Behlnd closed
g-tes the Hrown football sqund went
thnmgh a elgoroua signal practlee thls
afternoon on Andrews Fielo. No scrlm
onane was attempted on account of the un
certaln footlng, due to a steady downpour.
The spertal playB whlch are ln process
of ilevelopmetit for the gnme wlth Har?
vard on Saturday were run through with
rapidity, and the men of the 'varslty
seemed to be letter perfeot ln thelr work.
All of the regulars were ln line, snd to
morrow, If thc weather Is suitable, a brL?k
clash wlll take place with the second
ele\ en, whlch will use Harvard forma
tions.
It ls planned to hammer the Harvard
defence hard with the Hrown backs, but
the coach.s hope to alternate straight
football of the old-fashioned sort with a
few trlcks which are being worked out
daily.
Secret Practice for Lafayette.
[By T^lenraph to The Trlboaa 1
Easton, Penn., Oct. 23.?Lafayette hss
Btarted on the flnal period of prcparatlon
for the Pennsylvanla game on Saturday.
The flrst drill h.ld b'-hind closed gates
was extremely encournplng. A short
scrlmmage ln the ciisp autumn alr was
the cleverest bit of football sren thla
year. The d?feat of Pennsylvanla by
Hrown has had a psycholoKlcal affect Ofl
the men, and they are working with In
tlnltely more spirit than at any tlme thla
season.
Tie long list of ctipplea is gradually
dbnmlahlflg, and by Saturday every man
on the e-quad will be ln condition to play.
Brown and Bchecren are agata in tba
BCrlmmasa, and are playtng better than
. rei Qroaa who was thoupht to )>?? ln*
(aparftated for the season wlth a mls
pjaced kldney, la Improvlng fa.at. and la
eounted on to fiil bis regular plac.
NAVY SHOWS IMPROVEMENT
Coaches Believe Heavy Back
field To Be a Strong Card.
? ? grapb to Thc Trl
Annapoiis Ifd., Oct 28.?A dlstlnct ltn
provement wa< shown reaultlng from tl.e
pollo adopted by the Naval Academy
football coaches this week of Ml4*etlng a
team ami glvlna each member sp.-.ial in
atructioa, rather than trying out aeveral
candldatea Ior aacb position. Th.- aaaaa
team lin-d up analnst tba scrub thls
afternoon that has been togetber during
the whole of tho week.
The first team to.ik the ball in the
mlddle of the fleld. and wlth nine Btralgbl
line plays carrled It over the Hne, ll.
Harrlson maklni, the touchdown. The
second tlme It took tl.ii te-cn playa to
cover the dlStaflCC t" the gOBl, tbe BCTUt)
mSPBglPg to make a brlei stand . ? 8
t wi.c
Nicholis was at quarterback, and tbe
otbera behlnd the line were tngram Cook
and H. Harrlson. Hoth Iflgram and Har
rlaoa were taken from tb.- centre of thc
line. ami ih,- eoacbea believe that thelr
slrong rard will be to build up ;?.
baokneM to work wlth the buge forwards
in breaking down appealBg t- ama b) urini
Straight line smashing plays. The itralght
playa were rarled with a crosebuck on a
delaycd pass
a
NO SCRIMMAGE FOR ARMY
Field Too Muddy and Squad
Practises Forward Pass.
[By Telegraph to Th* Trlbaae.]
West Polnt, N. Y, Oet H.--Tbe Army
football squad had thelr flrst practlee
since tbe game wlth Yale last Saturday.
to-day. The field was a quagmlrc and, as
a reault, all scrimmaglng WBS declared
off, the coaches not darlflg to take B
ehaaoa 4,n sprained ankl>" or twieted
knees arlth the Colgata game loomlna ap
for next Saturday. >Jurh attention was
paid to the perfectlng of the forward pass
formation, and the coaches had half a
dozen candidates for ends ull working
hard.
Although Horo and Olllesple are fast
and thus far have played good football.
lt ls felt by many that they are light, and
it wou'.d not be surprlsing to see tbe moi<
heavler men used in some of thc games
to lome. Rosevear ia a promlslng candi?
date for one of the wlng positions; be 1"
i eavy end fa.?t, but lacks eBporlance ll
la likely that Rowiey, who has been play?
ing tackie all season, wlll be Bhlfted to
one of the ends. He played there last sea?
son, and made good.
If Huston gets out of hls technlcal 1n
eliglbillty wlth the faculty he will go ln
as guard, and Weyan.l, who ts also under
the ban but who, tt ls rumored, ls golng
t<r g> t out, could flll Rowley*s shoes at
tackie. Thls would make an experlenced
and heavy line, ae both these men have
played tbe game ht fore and knOW lt
thoroughly. ,
Taekllng tbe dummv. charglng for the
llnemen, gelHng down under punts and
wind sprlnta were as far SB the men
went ln to-day's gnme. If the Weather
<.!.-ars tbe team will be drlven hard ln
to-morrow's workout, for the coaches look
for a hard game wlth Colgate.
l
FIGHT? WELL, 1 GUESS YES!
So Says Roger Bresnahan, De
posed Manager of Oardinals.
St. I.outs. Oct. 23.-"Flght? Am I golng
to flght? Well, I gucss yes." Roger Bres?
nahan. deposed manager of tbe 8t. I_)uIb
National I.eague club, declared to-day.
"I am ready to flght for my rlghts and
wlll go Into any court tbey want me to.
I nev.-r qult on the ball fleld and I won't
qult now."
Rumors were ln clrculatlon to-day that
Robert L, Hedges, president of the St.
Louis Amerlcan club. was after Hresna
han t4> manajje his club next season, and
was ready to puy the catcher the $10,000 a
year hls contract wlth th- g| Louls .Na?
tional Ix-ague team calls for, but not the
10 per cent of the proflts. It ls believed
Br'isnahan would b<- pecullarly valuable
because of hls ahtliey to steady young
pitchers The Brwwna have a number of
promlslng youngsters.
Princeton Backs Show Speed
ori a Slippery Field.
CORNELL TEAM'WAKES UP
Dixie Smith Used at Quarter
and May Run the Eleven
Against Bucknell.
[Ry Tel?graph to The Tribune ]
Prlneeton. N. J.. Oet 2.T- Handlcapped
eomewhat by a wet and slippery fleld,
Princeton's foothnll eloven rolled up three
touchdowna agalnst the freshmen thls
nfternoon In a thlrty-mlnute Bertnnnsga
It was Just clever football, wlth "Hobey"
Baker, He Wltt and 8. Baker showlng at
their best. A neat 30-yard plnce kick by
H Baker started the tallylng, and He
Wltt mon followed wlth a well enrn<d
touchdown through the llne. "Stcw"
Hakr-r, who played a strong. headjr game
at quarterbii' k. was responsible for the
flnal BOOre, after two brllllnnt runs by
Karle Waller had brought tbe ball CloSB
to the freshman goal.
At the openlng of prnetioe the \arsity
was on the defenslve, and for balf an
hour Cunnlnghara and the scrub trled to
advance the bull. The Tlp.-r coach could
flnd few holCfl In the llne to-dav, and
wlth the exception of one r?> yard run by
Bolaad the aecond atrlng men could make
no conslstent galne.
Bluetbenthal anl flhenk dld some grcnt
work In the llne. The Bpsod** forwardfl
broke througk repeatedly, amsshlng up
plii\s. Kach bad a recovered fumhle to
hls credlt before the practlce closed.
Luck favoreil Pluethenthnl on hls re
COTOry, for the atocby centre pleked up
tbfl bn'.I as It rolled nnd tOTS down tbe
fldd fof twenty yards before he was
stopped.
"Ma!" Logaa was not ln tops. Kssns
Pltspstrleb gave the promlslng guard a
complete rest. ns be ln taking no ehanoea
on havlng him stale tor Dartmouth on
Baturdajr. GoMIe Wrlgrhl was la Pred
Trenkman's p'a. e at end. wblle Pallln
occupled ''"rth at tackle. Cap*
taln Pendleton wns not In the llne-up, De
Wltt. Waller and n. Baker completlng
the bacl I
"Sport" Irmatrong, Jlm
"Bnake" Ames nnd Tyler rere all ^n
th*. Del l to-d \m wa ln ehan
,-he klckera, whlh Tyler took the tacklea
nnd Tr. ni liat i I he enda
Hard Work for Cornell Team.
.,. .... -,.,.. .
Ithaca, N. V.. oct. ft?The Cornell fool
nuad part ll ited tl I aft< rno .n In
another hsrd workoul hsrder, lf anj
jthl/lg, than that of vest.T'lav and the
two-hour ronatsnl acrlmmage whlcb Dr
Al Bharpe Hre'rted resulted In slx touch?
downs for the 'vnrslty BgalnSt three for
I the scrub.
The men sre grsduslly ra ;??,,'*'"
the hnr.l gr elllns of laal Ssturdaj
are now :n ih< mldsl of prepsrstlon for
thi same wltl Rucknell. Judglng fr..m
ti . work of the laal two daya II sppear-i
lhai di golng to spend thls
v eek perfi nd playi
r oa at the d I thi t- am. *?o that
v, hi e\ ei ? I tl i Bd '** III hai t B
u,. tter aelet tlon ? f gro nd gali
' on whlch he can depend
T t questlon of quartsrback for the
belng . bj no meani aettled f i
Dixle Bmlth, . for thr* ?? ?? ? ira baa
l Bhlfted from i laci to place ta tba I ? h
li- now commandlng tho 'ra
ri iln It la Ukely th i?
will return to hia place Bl bslf when
, 'i rslnoi hai bad more pra< tlce, bul i
men h:. running a keen ra-e for honoi
iy. i ii. Bhlfl of Taber to isfl
hall demands approval for thla movi
llve (11 onnor good aupport and do
guard thla position.
_B ts played tbe entire garm Iblaaftei
noon al rlght end 0*Hearn< belng abeent
from ti..* iniii. and Raea took care ol
Eytich'a )nt. until bs appeared ahortl** be
fore darkneaa ended the practlc* Cham
palgn Is -tlll on I e . i k liat, u.- denth 1
pl lylnu ln I ia ti ad 1 he -.. i i Un il
up u folloa Kyrlch and Reei, |<
Munns. Larrowe, Jesae Whyte, VVelden
thal, Wllllan . Lahi foi
Lauts, rlghl end; Dlxle Bmlth,
back: Taber, 1. fi half; Iiliz. rlgl t -4 I
and Hlll, fullback.
The ba. k tleld on the aecond team waa
??". .-? - -?. ??*. ?.. ni n.i^
especlally strong, made up of Trslnor,
quarter; McIlvHlne, R. B. Whu, and
Miiiei i-ini, O'COnnor was used fur a
f**w minutes.
Bennett relleved R B Whyte after a
short tlm.- and L'nderhlll got i
same for a f'-vs playa Thoae men, u ?
noped, will soon be ready for regulai
work.
GREEM WORKS IN THE RAIM
Coaches Pleased with Dart
mouth's Drill on Slippery Field.
?'? Ti legrapb <... ti,- Tribune i
Hanover. n n, Ocl U. Deaplte tne
heavy rainfall. the Dartmouth football
BSjuad wenl through ? hard balf-hour
serlmmsge to-day. Cavanaugh aald lhat
lt was tbe anapplasl practlce thls tell.
The men proved that they could srorfc
hard and fast on a slippery fleld and made
v.-iy few fumbles, altbougb Hu* ball waa
COveieil wit'i fl Hll;.pery mud.
Koiiowing the acrftnmage, Cavanaugh
put his men to tackllng the dummy. The
ground WOUld not hohl, but tha im-n
flnally locatoU thelr fltep anrl nalled thfl
sawdust dummy nt ev.-ry tiy. The re
malndr-i of thr time was spent in thfl
baseball eage running through "ignuls and
attadrtng Prlneeton'a tonaatlon, for tbe
second tenm took tbfl ball and trled Tlger
Plays. Knglehorn. \\ hltmori- and K-t.-o
broke through ami ton- up tbe playa irtth
eossparatlve eaae, The Tlger back BeM
win hava io '.i-\- iirin- in carrying out
thr-ir work.
The annual Prlneeton iti.i?- meetlng
was beid to-nlght, at whlch Csvaasugb
gave out a Httle "dope" Donesratag his
team. Kour hunrlred men havr- "fltgned
the book" to a'i'eompnny the team, nnd
two hundred more are BKpSStsd tO go
v. hen tl.e time flOOBSa
As nearly as can now bi* determlned, It
does not mem tiuit the coaches expeet to
play Captaln BSBBStt on Saturday. If
thls ls the case, the team will be ahort
one of Its greatest nssets. for Bennett Is
not only a great guard. but an Irivaluahh*
peraonal force on the team.
The llne-up ln to-dny's serlmmage fol?
lows:
Hogsett, Ir ft end; Ksteo, left tackle;
Glbson, Isfl guard; Whltmore, oe.ntre;
Kogers. rigbt guard; Knglehorn, rlght
tackle; Barends. rlght end; LlSWOUyn,
nuarterbark; YVhltin-y, Isfl halfhack.
kforrsy, rlght balfbask; Baow, fuiiha.'k.
ISAACS WINS AT BILLIARD.S.
Martln laaacfl defeated Kdward Haim
by a acore of _'i) t<> |i ln the amat*'iir
handicap ellmlnatiou three cushion bil?
liard tournament at 'he Mornlngside BO*
Hard Academy last nlght. He completed
hls strlng wlth an unflnlahed run of 5.
ln thfl BSOOad game Isidon- Ilosenbaum,
who had B handicap of -4 polnts, defiated
Charles L, Johnson by a score of **? to 11.
liYls.oF m
Frank J.GouldPays $50,000 to
Mr. Keene for Five Mares.
SAID TO BE RECORD PRICE
August Herrmann Conflrms the
Rumors That Joe Tinker
May Manage Reds.
Frank J. Oould bOUghl flve thorough
bred brood mares from James R. Keene
yeaterday for $.v.ooo. said t4, be ihe high
eal Bliee erer paid for a slmllar lot at one
tlme.
ThB fluo idialllllBII Ot the Jockry Olub
has heen dlsperslng hls brcdlng estab
llshment for a year or more. and the flvo
famoiiB mares sold yesterday were tbo
last of the many whlch bad been path
. n ,1 toirether wlth Inflnite care and at
a great cost within the lnst flfteen yeara
for hls stock farm ln K.-ntucky.
The sale of the mar. s m.-ans thelr loss
to thla rountry, as Mr. Oould will have
them shipped to hls breodlflg farm ln
l-'ran.-e.
Rock Snnd, tbe thOTOUghbred stalllon
whlcb August Bdmont sold a few days
ago to a syndlcate for $1'>0,000, wlll make
the journey from LexinKton to ioteei
City on a spcclnl car In charge of Charlea
F. Hlll, one tlme iralner for Clat*en08 H.
Maekay. He wlll bave l/exlngton to
nlghl or enrly tO-WJOClOW morning, as no
wlll be shipped to France on tbe Mlnne
waaka, which aalla on gaturday.
AugUSl rlerrmena, chairman of tbe Na?
tional t'ommlsslon and chlef owner of th?
Olncinnatl etub ln the National I.eague.
made the flrst offli-lal atatement yesterdav
ln tbe wny of throwlng com* h?rht on the
rumors gjrlng about COHOernlng a new
manager for the Reds to sneceed Hank
O'Day, tbe former umplre. In anower to
a quentlon as to whether ,Ioe Ttnker,
Bbortatop of the CUbfl, WOUld be the man.
he is quoted aB aaytBg.
"While no deflfltte arrnnrements re
gardtnB Tinker have been complefed. there
ir no denylna tbe r.o-t tbal be haa been
ronsldered nnd asked for'hls terms ln
,;i.,. he . nn b<- purchased ln the regular
w ty fi 'in thc Chicago 1lt b "
<'hatie\ iir.oin. manager of tbe Phillies.
haa refuaed an nffer to go on the al
thls Wlnter, t r<-ferrlng tO run B movltu,'
plcture show
ffow that Muiii Ifclntoeh haa put an
end to all Begotlatkma wlth Jack John?
son for two ftghta in Australla, for whlch
he had i>? n wilim - r.. pay aomethlng
1*0.ooo ih.- feellnx la general amoag
?portlng men thal the beavywetght cham?
plon wlll ne\.-r Bgahl pul on |bC gloves.
ln i ommea'ttlna: on Johnson ar.d hls biteat
i . n well knriwn fnllow.-r. of boxlng
?ara in 'Tb- Boston Poef
I .t BSOfl for th? lnst flve yearfl baa
icted hlmself thi pi Inclpla of
looklng ou! for nob.4.1- bul Jack John
svery one elae and not
for pu opinion Hc
ll a rapid
raie. nnd ri"\v seems t., havo reacbed
th. im ii- _ _
n- i* . mghly seirish
snd" mean aplrlted, nnd ln hla heart he
ol thi blaaest cowarda thnt evar
put his fool n a rlng Bhould he con?
tinue bozlns i "I" ""t think there I* s
man 1n slk'ul who . an ,t.-fea.t hlm, be
,Hu?e he is ;, wonderful defenslve boxer,
;,n.i takea the rerj ' of hlm*
. be ls a
? . t au.ii men ? ft, F Itx
m Bhai key or J. ttrit a, wh- n
the latl
? own up very qulckly for Just
iv hat !.- <? i of theae men, who
a nld have
,. tn smltl ? ? ?
aon ? ' ? ? foi '?*! ? ln? ?- of
half ?( 'i.I rounds II tn
?i *ie.ht
?ho ? an give II '. >?
. i um.'. ii t
rea II) ? hlm
1 have aeen It atated that
a very wlse man. Il<- la
i, v i'.i nol continue to affront the ver.
people "., whom be muat depend for hls
llvellhood ib- haa a wlda atreak of
low cunnlng, rn admlt, bul be H no]
prlse Desplte hls money, you wlll ?*
..,< the dai when Jack Johnaon aill be
. ? huinplng hla noae ln the du-t;
provldlng, of courae, he <l-" v nol dle arlth
h|a boota on ln the mean tlme, whlch I
rath.-r thlnk u il be hla evefltual artndup.
Oeneral George W. wir.iat.-, president
of the Public Bchoala Athletlc League,
i as arranged for a monater iiim,.-r to be
h.-ld on Saturday evenlng. Novemb.-r 10,
Ol one Of the leading hotela Tbe object
ls to oonnneniorate ihe great work that
ha.i been done during the laal nlne years
for tha S'ii4.olt.oys of thls clty. The
work baa growa ho rapldly tbat the league
has b. ...tne th" leading lnstltutlon of Its
kind Ifl the world.
i Wlngate and Dr. C, lv*ard
Crampton, secretary of the league, ^->,???
deelded tO hold tblH public dUUMT to give
iill the W4,rk4-rs an4l friends of the league
a chance to meet and dlSCUBI IhS Krrnt
gooi that ls being done for the growlng
boys of the <ity.
Men and WOmCII ?t national reputatlon
,111 speak Ofl varbms BUbJecta i-lttlvc lo
the league'i work.
Jamea B gulHvan, prealdenl of tbe Met?
ropolltan Assodatloo of the Amateur
Athletlc I.eaKiie, will n. t a? refere" of tha
ten-mlle run arid ^even-iiill- WBlkJng
champtonshlpa wblcb are to be held <>n
gaturday afternoon at tbe Kast.-rti Mo
tordrome, Vallsburg, Newarfc.
It aill mark Ibe grSt holdlng Bf 'ue
walk as a nntlotial flxture lu twenty
clfrht years. tbe last having been held In
MH when M was won by Eddtc M< Donald,
of the Wesl side a. c.
TllUBB who wlll act ns offlclals follow:
Judgea, Bartow s. We.-k?. Kew Fork
A C.J Fred W. Hublen, St C'eorgc A C :
John J- Wiisb, Pasthna A Ci Teranea
I'r.rby. Irlah-AflMrh an A. C, BBd QeOTga
t Pawling, of Philadelphia. Tbaers.
Charlea J Dtogoe. Pastlma A. C.j W. L
j4>nes, [ijsh-Amerleaa a. C; C. J. i>.?i
ton, Tlmera* Club; i>r J. If, Breea, Kew
York A. Cj John J. O'Brlen, New York
A. C, and Inglls M. Fppen-u. BBSterfl
Motordrome
FOGEL STILL DICKERING
Livingstone, of Oincinnati,
Wants to Buy Phillies.
Philadelphia, Oet ? Jedfereofl Ltvlag
atone, of I'inclnnatl, lo-day h.-ld a oot.
f.-i.-i,..- I,. re wlth Boraea Fogel, presi?
dent of th. Philadelphia (iub of the Na
ti"nal league, at whlcb the pur>ii-ise af
tbe IMilllies was dtsi ussed, but no agre.
nient was rea4-hed.
Mr. Uvlngatane says he made a <8aah
offer not far Ixiow the niilllon dollar
mark. Mr Fogel ibcllned to dlscuss tha
? onf.-r. nce further than to r-nnark that b.
dld not count nn s.-lling to LlvtflgatOOa.
He adiiilts thal be ls willlng to dl-po..,' oi
tin- d:i!>, provld.-d he B_dS a purchas.r
willlng t?> agraa te his taraaa
Huriiig the last Week Fogel han re,e|vi-,l
a number of offers, ootne of which he says
were BBllsfBlllOTJ from a cash point ef
How, but not entlrely so In other re
epects.
Pick Johnny Evers to
Manage Chicago Cubs
Peppery Second Baseman
Will Succeed the Peerless
Frank Chance.
chlcago, Oct. 23?John Evers, second
baasssaa of the Chlcago club of the Na?
tlonal I/cague, wlll be manager of the
team next season, succeedlng I'Tank
t'hance. Thls announcement was made
by a frlend of the player to-day wlth a
positlvenesa that carrled convlctlon.
Evers himself decltned to be quoted on
the subject, and OL W. Murphy, president
of the club, maintalned the same attltude
whlch he has adopted since hls recent
pronouncement that Chance would not
be at the helm In 1913.
At that time Murphy said he had se
lected Chance'a auccessor, and deacrlbed
the new manager aa "the youngest In Ihe
league, speedy, enthuaiastlc and a bralny
player." rflnce then he has lntlmated
that the new manaKer would be one who
has not hltherto occupled such a post.
The announc.-ment last night that per
misslon had been granted .loe Tinker to
negotlats with the Clndnnatl manage
ment regardlng the leadershlp of that
team ellmlnated the shortstop from the
llst of those whom rumor had named aa
Chance's successor. It alao served to
strengthen the belief tnat Evers would
get the place. and practlcal conflrmation
that such was the correct guess came to
day.
It was authoritatlvely announced that
Evers would sign his contract as manager
to-morrow. The ceremony had been
planned for to-day, but members of the
team are on a "barnstormlng" trlp, and
Murphy consented to the postponement to
allow Evers to keep hls engagement aa a
player. What terms the contract wlll
carry could not be learned.
Evers's home ia ln Troy. N. Y. He
came to the local Natlonal Eeague team
ln 19W. and after a brlef career aa a util?
ity player was made reguiar aecond base?
man.
Chance. whom he Is to succeed as man?
ager, has been playlng here since 1898.
He slgned as a catcher under A. C. An?
son. became flrst baseman on the latters.
retlrement, and manager of the team ln
1906, when the late Erank Selee gave up
the post because of 111 health.
European Methods Adopted by
Amateur League.
NO TIME LIMIT HEREAFTER
Experiences at Olympic Games
Last Summer Lead to
Radical Changes.
As a result of the experlence galned by
our Amerlcan swordsmen in the recent
<il>mplc meet at BtOCkholSB, rulea govern
Itig fencing ln this country have Juat
undergoae changea of the most radical
cbaracter ln yeara. The rocommendatlOB
of the min who male a dose study of
European msthods met with aucb high
fSVOr SBBOag th? membere of th'- COH
trolllng body here that almoM without
exception they were adopted unanlmuusly
it the annual meetlng of the Aniafeur
rencers' I.eague of Ameriea on Tuesday.
gucb WSS the announcement made yes?
terday by Wi Beott ovonnor. seerotar*
of Ibe natlonal organlzatlon.
'I h.- action of the league elllblnates
practlcally all the aallent points of dlf
ference thnt have eatstsd between the
Amerlcsn cods aml the international rules
that governr-d the eompetltlon at the
< i! mplc games. It Is practlcally an em
bodiment of the forelgn regulations.
Th.-re will be no time llmlt hereafter
Ir folls eompetltlon. lnstead of four mln?
ute-;, aa rustornary. contestanta wlll have
t.. hold th" strip until one or the other
haa galned a total of flve tou< hes. T'nder
tba "il rulea a rnajority of seven touehes
declded a bout. In additlon the Olympic
M oting aystem wsa adopted, whoreby tJea
iu th" number of matches won are eettled
T,,,t I.v n serles of feiice-off houts, but by
a comparlson of the aggregate number of
touchea made throughout the tournament.
Bcore boarda at all tournaments wlll be
rompulaory hereafter. Th*- costeoi of
rdlng a poial tor form, a practlce
? h.is often cauaed trouble in rdoos
? hes, baa bsso ellmlnated, aa well as
ile making It obllgatory for the i-nn
testanl to announce **hether he has been
I, falr or fOUl
It has also b.-en the custom to award
;, polnl tO h ferv er when hls rhal steps
Off the atrlp. or when he turns or covers
bll body with hls nrtna In such a wiy as
i. make It Impoaalble for the attacker to
?cora a legal point. Ko polnts will ba
added hereafter. ir.stead the effendlng
contestsnt wlll h.".** a point deducted
from hls total
The slze of t'..- Bflbrc bSB been reduced
to coniorm wlth the one In use ln Eu?
rope. it ls to le thlrty-Sva inches long,
half nn inch in wldth snd not more than
one-quartsr of an Inch st the point. The
total nuiiiber of polnts necessary to win
a bout has besfl reduced from nin" tn
Mven Double touchea lnstead of count
lng nll. wlll cause one point to be de
ducted from eneh swordsman's acore.
Thfl Stop thtust has been ellmlnated. mak?
ing It Imperstfvs now for the d-'fender to
parry before lungtng:
The three-proiiK point d'arr^t hSfl been
BdODtod f"r duelllng sword eompetltlon.
lt ls a trlaagUlar nrranKement on top of
the button. and ls wrapped wlth the whlp
I |ng. When lt foiiches any part of the
f.-ncer's clothlng lt leaves a sllght Im
pre H'li, therebj* hslplng the oinctais tb
flndlng the point of contact. .Tudges may
no longer nulllfy a touch or a double
touch.
While the schcdule of tournament datcs
has noi been completed, it was announced
that the serles ln the local division wlll
begln on pecember 14 wlth Informal botita
nt the New Vork Turnvereiri.
By atiithr-r Important constltutlonal
amendrnent womsn toncors have been
made etlglbte to memborsMp in the league.
lt is hoi'i'l thla nr-tlon wlll be a stlmultts
t,> thfl .lev.loi'tiient of thfl snort among
tba wo mon, The women'a natlonal ehatti
plonshtp wlll ba l.el.l at ths Hotsl Aator
during the latter part of Apnl, ln con
Junctlon wlth the tltle meet for nn n.
HOPPE IN HIS BEST FORM
Billiard Champion Runs Out
400 Points in 4 Innings.
Wlllia HoppS ran out a sirltig of 400
polnts in four Innings nt IM balkllne
btlllardfl ln a practlce match with I-'.-rdi
nand pnggaahorg at MoGraWa sosdaanv
last nlght. Hoppe failed to count on hla
fiist trlp te; the table and corralled only
BM point on hls second attempt. Tho"
tlilrd netted IH"" anrl the fourth "216. Pog
genluirg BSSSSd one point In three la
Blagfl fOT the rest of th*' time BS sat on
ii chalr, wonderlnc whether be was a
?pectatOT ir partlcfpator ln the match
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10 FIX BOXMG WEIGHTS
Athletic Commission Takes the
First Steps Here.
MOVE IN RIGHT DIRECTION
Letters Addressed to Oontrol
ling Bodies in France and
Great Britain.
The flrst steps toward the eatabllshment
of unlversal welghts for boxers were
taken yesterday, when the State Athletic
Commlsaton announced that lt had drafted
a letter to the Natlonal flporting Club of
LondOS and the French Boxlng Federa
tlon. auggcstlng welghts Whlcb boxers the
worid ov.r shall follow.
CoiTespondence haa been exchaagsd be?
tween the French and EngKsh organlza
tlona and tho"State Athletic Commlaslon
In which lt was stated that such action
would be advisable, so, ln order to "get
thlngs golng." aa the BOCrotSTJ*, Charles J
Harvey, put It. the commission here hav
siggeKted the compilatlon of a aet of
rules, lncorporated In whlch Bl*fl the fol?
lowlng w.-lghts: M pouada paperwelghts:
113 pounda, bantamweights; 126 pounds.
featherwelghts; UB pounda. Ilghtwslghts;
145 pounda, welterweights; 158 pounda,
mlddlewelghts; 17.r. pounds. llght boavr
welghts, and more than 171 pounda,
h?*avy v. -elghts.
Through the agency of W. C. J. Kelly.
who la now ln thls country, aml Hugh
IfcTntSSh, tbe Australlan promoter, these
auggestlons, If BgTSSd upon by the other
' organiratlona, probably arlll Le adopted
ln Australla. The WfllghtS are to be rlng
alda acallng. although In Kngland the CUS
tom la to welgh ln at 2 o'clock the d,-w
of the contest. and In France from two to
four hours prevlous. The rlngslde welgh
Ing. however. Is merely a auggestlon, It
was explalned.
Itllly Job, the referee of the Garden
Athletlo Club, nppeared before the com?
mission yestr rday ln response to a re
gttOSt for an explanatlon of the flght be?
tween "i.unboat" Smith and Jlm Btewart
In the Garden last Monday nlght. where
tne Sheriff stepp* d In. Joh told the com
mlSSlOU that bfl had Stoppsi tbfl bout be?
fore the Bherlff lnvaded the rlng. He aald
he went over to Smith and said: "The
BOUfa over." and then CTOSSSd the rlng
and said the same to BtSWBfl It was
Ju.-t after bfl had tuld Btewart of hls de
clslon that the Bherlff threw hlfl hat and
himself in tha rlng.
A request was received from PortO Rico
for a copy of the rules of thfl connnlsslon.
for lt seems the Porto Hlcans are dealrotis
of puttlng boxlng under control. Bo
qUflStfl also have been received from Aus?
tralla. France aml many BtatSS for the
rulea, so t\Ht boxlng may be conducted
along the same llnes aa ln thls state.
Tl.e 'ommlsslon granted llcensea to the
JohnStOWU AthlOtk Club, of Johnstown.
N. T.. and to the Jamalca Athletic Clttb,
of Jamalca, Ixuig Island.
PAWLING SCHOOL OOLFERS WIN
The Pawllng School team defeated Uw
roncovllls School ln a golf match at
LawrsncovUlO, N J , yesterrlay, by a
score of 7 matches to 2
MO NEWS OF IM
W. E. Flanders New President
of U. S. Motor Company.
BIG FIGURE IN IIMDUSTRY
Mr. Hedges Outlines for Auto*
mobile League His Attitude
Toward Good Roads.
Although no offlriai announcement haa
been made, AutOBSObUe Bow heard .ind
accepted ae authentlc yesterday a tapon
that Walter E. Flanders. of Detrolt, ha*
been Belected as president of the 1 "ntt?_l *
States Motor Conipnnv. to aucceed Heri1?.
mln Brlscoe, who retlted from the offtc,
a few days ago. Mr Flanders, lt i,
known, han been In thls clty for the |Mt
four days. He ls one 4>f several who?
names have been menthmed in ionne"tlon
with the place.
According to rellable Information, Mr.
Flanders hns accepted the offer to tak?
charge of the big COrpOTBtloa on condi?
tion that certain stipulations which bt
makes with regard to untrauimelle<l lead
ershlp be accepted. In all of hls buslneu
connectlons he has had a free hand, and
he has yet to be ldentlfled with a fallure.
Under the norganlzatbin plan adopted
by the t'nlted Statm A.'otor < ompany g
few days ago the company Is capltallzed
at $31,000,000 whlch will conaist of 1U,.
000,000 7 per 4-ent cumu'ative stock. U.a.O,*
000 second preferred 6 per cent stock and
111,000,000 4 per cent eommon stock.
In connectlon with the deal lt ls tali
that tbe I'nited States .Motor r'ompany
wlll acqulre the Flanders Motor Com?
pany, whlch ls capltallzed at |3,TtV),O00, ani
wlll aasume all of Its debts and obllga
tlons and pay a cash bonus to Mr.
Flanders and hia fellow stockholden.
whlle at the same tlme the plants of tbe'
United Statea Motor Company will at
used to build the 13,000 Flanders cars con
tracted for by ita agents.
Walter TC. Flanders la one of the mott
promlnent flgures ln the automoblle ln-'
dustry. Startlng as a laborer ln Newark,
he became ldentlfled with automoblle
lulldlng four or five years ago, when,
with Wllllam E. Metzger and Barney
Everett, he organlzed the E -M.-F. Com?
pany to manufacture the car of that
name. Later the plant, whb h had grown
l<- enormous proportlons, was sold to the
Studebaker CorporaUon, Mr. Flanders
agreelna to remaln aB general manager.
A few months ago he left the gtudaaah
ers and agaln became assiaiatcl wlth
Mr. Metzger*in the Everett car, the name
of whirh has been (hanged to the Flan?
ders.
Automobile men along Htoadway who
have watched the work of Mr. 1-ianlers
slnce hls entry Into the lndustry agree that
he is one of the best men, If not BCtflSlly
'the best man. In America to be latlUBtef
wlth the Job of putting the United State,
Motor 4'ompany on ?> BUCCSBSfUl
They are WOndorlng
the other lumlnarle.?. Fanl Smlth snd Ll
Boy pelletler, wiii foiiow Mr. Flsndan
to New York
Following a nieeting of tiie A I
Trade League at tba Hotel Martini'iue on
Tuesday evertlng a tel. gram was aanl t*
job e. Hedges, RepubUcaa candJda-a for
Governor. at BlWghamtOP, N Y r.' ,
Ing that he outllm- hla attitude tOWBld I
hlghway and good roada mwrei
tiie appropriation of |?e,800,. for aasW
tionai good roada oo the ellaalnatloa of
grade crosslngs and in raepi t ta 1
potntment of a aon-partla
comml-sslon.
In reply tbe foUowliig telsgram was
recetw-d \es...,day hy Hoi bbbt,
chairman of the leagu.- :
"Telegram recelved. I am uviuah
fledly ln favor of tbe COBBlIISCtlOfl of hlgh
vraya and good roads and tl:- b.-tfrment
of glrl roads before regular hlghwav con
Btructions can replace th. m. I BH in
favor uf a return to the orlglnal PtSB of
a non-partlsan highwav commission, ia
orlglnally developed under tba Hughea
plan of developing good roada There
should be llberal Bf propriations by the
state foi the ellmlnation of grade croas
tngs carrled on under the direction of thc
Public Service Commission, as contem
plated ln the law. nnd if the statutc were
Inadciuate, amend.-d to make the elim
Ination of crosslngs more certain and lesi
divlsion 4,f cost, as Just and equltable aa
posslble. I am in favor of the proposed
addltional appropriation for good roada,
but believe the fund should bo adm'.nle
tered for the State of New York and not
for polltical advantage, as has been the
practlee during the laat two ycai-a"
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