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KATE CAREW FINDS CREATOR OF "HEAVENLY TWINS" IN CLUB
Mme. Sarah Grand Proves To Be, Aside from Her
Cigarette, a Mid-Victorian Figure, Weil Preserved of
Body and Spirit?Her Views of Life and of
Woman's Role Therein Are, However,
Not Mid-Victorian at All.
Writer Thinks Americans Have Done English Society
Much Good by Breaking Down the Barriers of
"British Shyness'--The Feminist Movement
and Her Connection Therewith in Its
Earlier Stages.
H? li?t?* (?ress.
Laondon, January n.
Wild. ve .t cigarettes, or
?v it too < art) In the morning
. on to begin smoking?"
. . y, -'.. and aha passed
ase well stacked with
ml
??car inc. ?ut i f" Il s aroman ?f the ?
,rid at that moment! However, it s\as
nlng at d, any way, i
.. gra ?fully, j
i l^pc- ?
\j?ni. Cl nd lighted bar own cigar- I
??. loaned I ortably on her end
,,f th* i- : - v" v?11'" sharing and smiled
,,rnellc?:t - upon ms through the Mua
gr?T kt"
A? w* - In the smoking room of a
ladles' clul .' mil L- lour, low apart?
ment, with s line of moat com??
portly nf"' ,s r,n'1 little tables beside
sjssa srltl mal hot , ? : pah iravs
thrrepn.
THE OMNIPRESENT CHINTZ
I rired hardly add th.it everything s\..^
rhirt*.-co ? ; i as unoal Realty, glria li
2 gars ' Into'a rhintilsag room in
I'd get nervous and think I was
?sssewl e, so accustomed am i now
to i1' era and brilliant liued
bird? ? ovei and preserve the up
plush and velvet chairs a: '
rofa?
Thai ral other wo.nen In the
r r after-broahfasl cigar
SUM Th( s^rre elderly, for the most
; ? .... niid-Vletorian
?xcert ? ? ? were pulling away with
?n avid a h would have
ihoeki ? " hito \ iolent
? s could ?she have seen ti:
*i nfaas it still gives me
I t I IU1 prise when I go to
. - ? Iderly ladies smoking j
: ? ' the tra-mo lei : -
I ? - ire or less natural. She
!? a ne, any way, i
sien:' n her Opinions and
er silvei
.
mannet
?
'
? t and ^tronsr
I ptlan cigarettt a a - l say,
? k a little
SHE IS MID-VICTORIAN.
?a ral Qrand is rather mid-v .
r like a D I Mauri' r '
?avoina:.. Tall, With S ? .'iinR
n beavln,
s* eyei
? ?
n< ? '? I ?
1 trod into Lot ion tu I
. n t he !.- ad, ss itii a light bang
; net hold
itrant bain
res lu e and gont
... ? ? Queen ?
BOVi ... or- :
hi as, nor have th?
? o? tpllm. tit ?j I
the < st lady In ths j
? ?
adornment of feath? ra ;
?* . oth English queei affect
t. She was plalnl) clad In a well
cut coat and skirt and furk
But the tiling which really sntontehed
me moot about her was her youthful ap?
pearance. You and I know, dear ones,
that she mud h?.- on the far side of mid
die ace, but I ?give you my word you'd
never think it. and there's no way ot
finding out exactly, because the "Who'd
Who," which usually ruthlessly reveal*
1 si of people's Mars, does not
give Barak Grand away, it merely etato
the place where she was born, and never
? cms the date,
Well, any way, there est the author of
"Th s i i' St ? : ly Twins,'' at Id in the morn?
ing, bri k, d< it and youthful, in her ultra?
modern cli b, with her cigarette between
her lips.
"I thought It would be letter to see
>ou here than to drar, you 'way down to
Tunbridge Welle." commenced Mme.
Grand, In a crisp, pleasant voi e, "and I
und to com, up to London anyhow, holi?
day shopping. | cm know ."
NO NOVELTY IN CLUBS.
Now, as matter of fad, i had bee
? . ? <d when '? : appointment wsa
::? .i ;,t the el ib. i quite like going
ntry and aedug how
esaful writers live ln the ChSt?lUg
em to find, and
won. long sine.- eeaned to
novelty; but i thanked lima Grand
er consideration erne, she bo
ily expected It
Tii.-n, as ehe la n most msderfi I
woman m-d I'm but a poor weak thinr,
! found she was Interviewing me. How
long had i been over here? How long wsa
it ??'.' Whom ha?l I tntcr
vVhom wss i going to Inter?
view? ?I -, and all With B degree of In?
? ? ? Which pleased and flattered me se
like to tell her my lift
story and nol bother in the lend about
? oncernlng h< r.
v ? terviewera sra c
rked Mme. Grand si
?-. wben she had elicited much In?
-, itlon from me. "And the women
? abb- tiian the men, it
seems to me. Tou |m ? ome to see us,
talk on msny aubjects, never take i
I when the Interview appears it
GOT QUERY MACHINE GOING.
?I- - men matter of training." re
?
Then i pulled myself together and took
Mv reins in my own hsnda dashlnr
bravely Inti i '?
?Do you think ? I o work are
. it ' ? iked, sklpplne
Whl h w< 'e I
. this, and - Brat thin
thai .?
Mme. Grand looked s little dtssppo! ?
. . i|i -.. go on Interviewin- i
me, : ? -,v Ith who'..
? ?
u i ii. l don't r> ..- ?? i co .'?) ri ; :y t?
that nil lion, I thlnl; worn
nt-dsy Ii is a Wei '
. and i think tin rs wert (
? t ?ii.-n,'-? Ivee the I .-?, p ei si ?
world will i.e. Bui
? ind I ome and ? lldren m? an rpuc*i
. la i - w ill."
"AMERtLAN WOMEN FADE EARLY. I THlNK,
lb IT TOO LARLV IN THE MORNING FOR YOU TO BEGIN SMOKING.' ASKED MME. GRAND.
"Do yo think worn? rritei
mot " obstai ? i men ""
"Not so mi .
e, of co -? i t tlfeir I
i han the ordinal ?
?i., i ule duties. g<
:.. thi Ir >?omant
i ?
'i bey have double IntereaU i
. . ? - |... I r.
? ? "
? .. i.. -i the asbi
log it '
bit?
neani ? ? one's life Mil
i.,.-.- to n.. ami .. i
uther ihinifi '??
' I... 1 .... ...IV,.
a girl ?" I q
SCARED HER YOUNG AUDITOR
??' d, " la . : .?.: lim? Qrand and
ha? a eleai. I I
,?..?. to boa i n... i don't kno
a ben i began my car. < i ..- a itoi
?.liai i knon i maai p t. I<mg i>.
!.il<; 1 l o.lld 0 rite tie In I 'I-.-', to sit u
;n P. i :.t night and tell m; listel StO l
so borribh thai i ?
: .?-n able t" i" alone at nlgbl
Then, a/her I tloaJly learned t>. writ?
snd I lad truubli : apt ?
i,\\ ni\ mom? ut stolen 11 >m l<
my desk."
The Heai enl Ta . n a.-. ?
. ?ni now!, wasn't it
ig I aal my thoughts fl< a bs
i., in. time nhen m . Idl i ? ?li-. U -.-.I 11,.
book and ?.ml.in t ,? t n..- res i it be
.,, isa II aas ao "daring," and I si.,i.. ol
and In tii" SOlll li ol lt.. appl.liar.
, sad .t. 'i .it'- without standing ..
enjo} m. i.t. e\.. pi the tbi ill whi<
fron doing i ??? perat?; ly outra
sicked thing
MINGLED PRAISE AND BLAME.
"Tt The ' It ?? ."enl I lUght m?
both fame and anew? :..
Mme. Orand, and she leaned baos
Ibe h"!a pIllOWS and half closed bl
as if eh?- vialonod agjaiu the past. ".\n
what a time I liad with !t! I sent It M H
. i; si ? ood, s bo bad ai oepti .1 tw<
.; mini. ;> nd ha a ? > iMn'i ha i a? It
. i a aras i ? ? ibout.il Not
only did he declini t? take m himself, n
i. ? sdi is. .1 ni" i...i i.. :? io i i. ? i. pub
. it sda ai d ral at m Inuated ?-.' he ... ikl
not bring out my othet work ii The
i-... sal] Ta Ina* ..pp. sred Ano t.,.,
eluda, he begged ro< to realts. what pain
.-.nil ;? i.ook would canst i maay of my
i. ...i< rs
? i sasui ? .i hin t hat most ol tlu mate
i.,,: foi i be stoi ) i. d I ?
doi s ..f Irfdi".' and was i
: .i- ?m.i that t:..' . , . i.ii thing
about it ail ??as th.it oubod' el* bag
, . ? ? . kart a rlttt i.??- th? ?
i .mi afraid i did noi d man'
i. eltngs, '.-i i ??'ii' ?'. ic ?". ??' ow or. ;
s** it published And bo didn't send back
the Otkai StOI SS In fa? t, !ik. 'due''
Twist, he ask.d lu mou. Th.- rest of
t i..- hist'.i ?? } o.i I.i.ow . of ' on. I
everybody read the booh, aad it was u
\ ii?'d sad i ondemned.'
THE "WHITE SLAVE' '. RAFFIu.
"Nowadays psopi< write snd talk shout
anything and everything." I ohaorved.
?Why. even Ihe while siav. traffic i?, a
dingy, r tabla topi.- of cone? ration.'
"And SbOUM I.?." l.'it-i rupte.l Mme ,
Qrand sternly. "Theos things must be
known and discuss?d la ??? dealt with.
property, ahnus weaaea don't rsaltae arbat I
'white alavt' Wattle uicaue. aiuii>l> becaus?
Ise who hl
Iter tl i ? punli
t too severe I ? ? sMe n
, worn ini.c.-c i. p -i
will -. t If we won
w,,\ w>- would teai then
: ? .e 1
? ? ? ? en pass
lo v,(
their 1
, said
ryes I ' g snd I
?
AROUSED FROM THEIR TRANCE
ill , |. m i
ID I hell V a : mC-, . m ii?.
n ked out th igh < louds
Mme. Oi
? ?i-. ? irtbei ihau s
, .i
\.,i ? the b
? - ? ? an to thell papen an.?
Grand p oddi -i .. ofa ? ushk
:;? ml- Dtinued Ii loa? i tonei
"\\. II, this s< t win do i i? n to
ini'initv .,i ? w. and now that women a
le.-iiu opening thrir eyea to all tl it coi
itlool ? hopef d."
" ITou w( '? ?? on.- of 'ba ni st openl
a? owi I a-?:??' t ??'.?' i sske?
forgt ttii. hat this migbi -? em to imp)
greatei sg( than the no ellri would cai
a-iiiiit, but somebon I've ala s)
? lioiight c i bei sa s ort of pion? i i
man's i ii r,ts In the blggesl
?. bul much moi >-. ' Haven
?
A TOUCH OF GLOATING.
\,,. i ? an'l one <>i the fii I ??
? i certaiul gol mod o
Ihe abuse." Then she frowaed a lirtl?
, ? il - -i, , .i - - . eoi
,. ,i ? r:-. ? one bad some ? i Iticia n t
r rpe ami ol niy work,and '.ios
? ? ? n Bka ?-;.i n adlng non ada*. s
the naction has ad In ami worn.
vv bal lb?-" think and SI I SI thi
? -oiiiuioii B4 IMC ?la la tea.'
? ? ..ii ndlee tremendous changes. Ibes
in Ihe position of Bngllsh ^.n."'
v.> Indeed. Wo command reaped
low from our med i"ik instead of nierai]
admiration d ouf "pdnta.1 Why, do yo
know, when I was ?., girl, we epuld nol
.,.m alone m Lood m without bdng ln>
?ulted We were never allowed to g?
anywhere without governess or chaperons
Ti,. girl <>i to-daj doesn't have to toter?
ate thai and of esptonsge, Sh. ?-?-s any*
she a lent a, .-. 11 ? i often ?put
compnnted ? >t course, the opening d
...nuns for m?_>,?>? -n has aceompliahed
inga Nowadny?, young wrosnei do*
liian.l fii.-Uoiu and Ih. . ItlSiSl ?ipon bCIUS
ipoi ting, and an BX< i III SI thing il
la," declared sfme. Grand, with a eso*
v m- .n?; ahaki ui bi r hand
AND THEN?THE BALLOT.
??|. muai b* irai i I .< ?
... . ome lo pa - a i-, n i on belletsd
?o it and worksd foi It long before these
was ii. eal hop?- of ,t. ' ?aid i
? it i-, Indeed," ?Biankl the novelist m
:,,i crisp po Itlvs wsy. Now. the ne\i
11.1, i- the ?rate
iin yea the rote," i repeated, i routl]
| want lu iaik nl.oiil the vote In the
!.. oil. th*- rights and wnm^s i.l
a,,.ii..i :.iii I realised there v.. s uo turn
in;; bach now. We were is for it. Wo
had i-, i bad the vole goostisu, and It
? c iid bnvs t" be tlu*aabss sut An Eng
iisii sttitrngaat i? like a do? nith a bons
v. hen BUS ff IB hccld of the word vote. She
j'liups at it. seizes it. plays with It.
crunehet It, and ?jets out Of it all the
good there la in it."
Mine. Grand leaned toward me. en
? ? face so that I
looked younger l
"Do tell m? ? rtati '.n Am."|
m here women ha ehe beggeti
n.i- t be? I there?"
\? i. ? nta I'd heai
>.f women ;? nd lawmakers wei
t I s;ii.
1 . ? .. ? i ? .i
on I
looking more Ilk, a i hi
r ?? ' ... . \ 1.limed: "1 It
? ?i i if course, Amerl ran sromi i
have noi '?? ? n i ?? ket n abo il going Int?
; ' .ley?"
? \. . li th?
. .? ? . ? . 11 ,'.'? bos ?
... ? kin'i be ? I
, ; '. ?
I
. IN DEFENCE OE ENGLISHMEN.
T aeeri I to resent as s slui
? pon i . fot ib i.
io assure me that John Bull waa equ !..
kind and Indulgent, but mlsguldi d.
"? Kir ni'Ti foik ha -?? a deal I) roote I
' ??? ? ai '" women a weakn? i
plained, "and for that they try l
us oui of the labor market and the po
llttesl arena I ? rail) ; rlievs that
I d I think to have
? ? i toward them r..r thia Is
Bex wsi -it..- thought '
ar- doing us much
harm by tin le i d men. And
vet. In is wa M ? team la g.i "
Hi re one of the club servi
? In an even more
?"li". - un form at <l efti r a brief loolt
round the i oom 11 i ime to Mme Qi tnd
.-.nd presented her wltl H telegram on a
aalver. ibg read It, and than said to me
s ?th one of her pleasant am i
? it is a good thing that you were able
to come this morning, foi i Und l must
return to Tuabridga Ws'la tuda;,, after
all."
"i?o >(.ii like living In tha conntry?H I
aakad
WRITES BETTER IN COUNTRY.
"Tea, very mu U, Indeed, i am an out?
door sort of person, yon see, and then I
find i .an write better th. iv. of coursa,
i bave v come up to town very often.
?nd as i have m clubs, three of them, i
emu its] overnight whenever i wish."
"Are you fond of gardening?"
i n-ke.i that because ? rather pi tured
this freak rosy \s.unnti Imbibing bealth
ami strehgtb from working among the
plsnts and Bowers she helped to make
grow.
?fm no, '>"t particularly." replied
Mm.- Qrand.
??i have a theory." said i. "that garden?
ing is a sort "f ?pression of the ma?
ternal instiii. t -that bar garden to a ?om
,,i, \s h., loves n Is Uke bor child."
? \ beautiful Idea, s charming tlwught, '
takl atase Qrand, delightedly, and your
auntie m. tai -horn ally patted besaaif on
th.. back "i{l" I'm really nothing of a
gardener myself, i loys Bowsra, but i
don't cat" to pick them, and 1 cant
arranga tkant Indeed, i am not sure
ui.it i like masses of them around a
house. The Japanese a*aj pleaass *me
better?a slngts Moaaom in each vase, i
oh. i dont." i volunteered "i like'
quant?tfc "i them everywhere."
?j think Japaaess atmpltciti and saod- j
elation In all tblngl apo-als very strongly j
lo me."-ihv novel art went on to any. "i |
believe m tralalag children on those lines, i
It 1? gOOd to develop a love of simplicity
and li.auty III thelii. and tile Japanese
kf.oss hoS'. to do that. 1 have spent much
tune In Japan. | ou know."
"yeM. Ywu travel conaidtiuhly, dou'^
you'/"
"I need to, i ce upon a time "
Mme. Grand. "Now I don'l q ".- ao muefe
but i am going on the C< ntinenl ver?
soon to do Bonn wo k on o ni a
"Do you like the : ??? lal lit.- In :
try?" i demanded. "I'vi heal i It
narrow ancl gt English countr
villages."
"Social llf" 1?
where in England." di ?
"it's no worm in the country thai
where. I if com ?
stead woman, th -. expect you to
centric, and i I ? ... ecu
mciit.--i upon. bt l t I much th?
in other pi.o a '? -i? ?? sn'1
care for Intellect il ? n and women
Among faehional i ? peopli It i n't Quit
the correct thin !
"How ha? n, \- erlcan element af?
fected Boclety?"
"LIVELY RUT EXTRAVAGANT."
i think the Americana d
nu end of |.' Thi
livened thtoi mm -
able how they have broken down the
barriers of Brttii ??? |<*h
after all. onl) a
made their wa kid O?
, things Ami It la pah to tl
that Engt I ' todg) a'
stuffy than It was. On I hfind.
hoe ever, they hot i I est rat
-aii.-e. Kverythn
, lavishly, and we try I t
enter! .mm- nts had
Sow aoriei ant
luxury more than <
1 was longing to sal i" Sept
hei -., If in au? h | with auch
rosy checke, l.nghl
: ? ? i all how to
|0 and ?In likewise; bUI It u.i i diitlciilt
c j.-stion (ci foi mu! te, 80
t on- d her as to her i
*\i ell, Iravi
? :. "snd ti
"What about ?
a ?h, l don'l rid?
?till Wal reat deal
countr} road s ? i Ivi n Kent
it i? call. I the 'larden Counl
I id. von know, and ;i \^ ? ! I deserves the
,.
nan ?
I b.|i?ve -I al Ii hos ?
!? n do It; hov Ihi keep
? -.- n a hi n they an
' I ii,, ?t.i-. '?. air !
and moi ?? ? sei d ?? i ha n a ? evi
1 would -. > m t-- i .. -. In the . rig : m I
I fant ?? BlmS. Grand's train of thought
mud bava basa nlong the same lines.
for she suddenly cast her eyes on me and
Mid BOOM S hat a?.ruptly:
"American women fade rather early.
don't theyl Tiny seem to me to have
gem rally a bleached sort of look, as H
the) were hothouse plants and did not
.ill ihe fra/Sh air they should. I
think it t: due to the overheated houses.
1*1 ' probably do not set the proper
; oxj gen,"
Then- it was asain!
Ob, .ha?: Oh. dear; Girls. It you Q
1- mi this as often as 1 have since I've
m this cMUsotne land you'd have
been tempted to ultcr a manly expletive.
I didn't, though, only a hot flush of
mantled my faded cheeks as I
: c S li?t coldly:
"llav. ii,u (jver been In America?"
"'?h. yes," responded Mme. Grand
y, unite unconscious that she had
led my L' s. A. fccnoltiveness.
I was them some time, and 1 en
i \<ry much, particularly when It
-i and everything was wrapped in
a sou white mantle; but. of course, the
ii. al of th.- houses"
THAT 1 NY. FUTILE FIRE.
! rose, I hope not too suddenly, snd
l Oked at the two-fur-a-penny little tire
m th- grate on that cold, damp day, and
I ii- lidos lOWeilBSJ over it with
cloaks ami woolly ihawls on their shoui
and St .Mine. Grand, who had ?at
lor half un hour talking to me with her
? buttoned up tight and her furs muf
i'..i round her. Then my thoughts dew
?-. th ih.aii.v. where the women keep
i a cloaks over their ?.vcn
to endure the atmus
:.-; ? ? bridge |iaiii?-s. where every
. 11 --. v\ ho luve been
i enough to .haw seats by th?
fire, and though l uttered no word of re
i lincerdy trad my glance con
?omdhlng of what 1 felt.
All III' old ladies looked up from theli
! took my departure, and thf
blui graj baas bung thick about them.
Mm. Grand walked to the door arlth
c -i showed thai she had the ion...
of ihe athi.-iic iCngiisbwonasi
? -hook my hand with a heart?
grip, and the last I SOW of her she \ra\
wending her way buck into the room, to
have another dgnrette and to read th?
? ? - 11 whatever ehara of thai
ii,fatit fu. sh. could justly daim.
.- ? . ? ?IS, Ncp-f-York Tr Botw >
"THE PRESENT AGE DOESN'T CARE FOR INTELLECTUAL MEN AND
WOMEN.''